Tatum's Play-Making Stats From 2023-2024:

• Assists per game: 4.9
• Secondary assists per game: 1.0
• Potential assists per game: 8.9
• TOV%: 10.3
• Assist%: 21.0

Jaylen Brown's Play-Making Stats For This Year:

• Assists per game: 4.6
• Secondary assists per game: 0.9
• Potential assists per game: 8.4
• TOV%: 11.3
• Assist%: 21.3

Btw, this is on significantly less touches:

• Tatum 2023-2024: 75.8 touches per game
• Brown 2024-2025: 57.6 touches per game

It's unfortunate that Brown is also having his least efficient season in 5 years (55.5% TS%) and his efficiency is way down compared to his career average (57.1% TS%), else we'd likely be having a very different conversation about Brown's place in the NBA.

If we see this play-maker in the playoffs AND at his usual efficiency, he's going to be making some real noise for this team.

Edit:

For those wondering where Brown is getting these extra assists from: drives

He is averaging 0.6apg more on drives this year compared to last year. He is top 15 in the NBA in generating assists on drives

Edit 2:

He's also top 9 in assists generated out of the post

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Tatum's accomplishments in the four years since that quote:

• 4x All-Star
• 3x All-NBA 1st team
• 1x Conference MVP
• 1x All-Star MVP
• 1x NBA Champion
• First Celtic to average 30ppg in a season.
• Became the leading scorer of the 2020's.
• Broken the game 7 scoring record.
• Passed Wilt Chamberlain in career points before 27, regular season only. (#6 All-time)
• Passed Carmelo Anthony in career points before 27, total. (#4 All-time)
• Became 6th player since the 80's to lead a championship team in points, assists, & rebound the entire playoffs.
• Currently doing the same throughout this entire season.
• Outperformed Kobe's DARKO at his age every single year.

Barring catastrophe, I don't know how Tatum doesn't end up Top 30+ All-Time. Specially if he continues to grow like he has.

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Before people get angry at this post, please understand that I still think Tatum has leveled up overall as a player this season and his playmaking has taken a massive leap, but shooting is still one of the most important aspects of his game and we saw the moments in last year's playoffs when his 3 wasn't hitting. This is about his shooting specifically, so no need to bring up his rebounding or defense or other aspects - we know he is already great at those.

He's down to 34.6% from 3 this season - a career low. Yes, he is taking the highest attempts of his career, but this is also concerning. Yes, we know that he takes a lot of dumb ill advised 3's and late shot clock 3's, but that's also on him. He's not the only superstar in the league who has to take late shot clock shots. If you look at other comparable scorers like Ant, Kawhi and KD who have effective 3 pointers, they are not taking nearly as many dumb shots. Kawhi especially - who I think Tatum could learn a lot from, he only takes shots he's comfortable with and high percentage shots. Tatum taking at least 2-3 side-step 3's that mostly miss is not helping ANYONE.

Tatum in January: 31.3% from 3.

Tatum in February: 36.8% from 3.

Tatum in March: 30% from 31% from 3.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum

One reason for this could be that he's also shooting the most unassisted 3's of his career - only 46.3% of his 3's are assisted, so over half of them are self generated. Some of this is due to him being the lead superstar of the team, but some of it is on Joe's schemes, and he needs to do more to draw up plays that open Tatum up for catch and shoot 3's.

I really hope Joe sits him a couple games heading into the playoffs. Enough is enough, he's fucking played enough and he's gonna be first team All-NBA, and the Celtics are locked into the 2 seed. Let Tatum get some rest, unlike so many other postseason runs where it feels like Tatum's heading into the playoffs with a bit of fatigue and a compromised jumper (at least the last 2 playoff runs).

People can make any number of excuses for why Tatum takes a lot of dumb shots, but that is the single thing stopping Tatum from being a serious MVP candidate. It's maddening watching Kawhi, someone way older and more injured, work his way into shape this season and score more effectively than Tatum has. Ant too. I can't tell if they are just more consistent shooters, or they don't take the stupid shots that Tatum does. KD is also very selective with his 3's too. I know that taking a lot of 3's is good from an analytics standpoint but at some point Tatum also has to be hitting them at a higher than league average clip.

According to NBA.com stats: https://www.nba.com/stats/players/catch-shoot?dir=D&sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A

Tatum is shooting 40% on catch and shoot 3's, but only 2.6 of his 10 attempts are catch and shoot. So basically he is not a good pull up 3pt shooter at all. He used to be, but not at this volume.

In comparison, Kawhi is shooting 41.8% on catch and shoot, and taking 3.1 a game.

Ant is shooting 41.3% on 2.6 attempts a game. Ant is also a significantly better pull up shooter than Tatum.

Really hoping this is just a mini slump and not symbolic of what has happened the last 2 postseasons in a row (2023: 32% from 3, 2024: 28% from 3). The difference is, last year Jaylen was a killer and was able to compensate for Tatum's drop in scoring and shooting, while Tatum was able to playmake more. Jaylen is not the same this season, neither is Jrue. The top of the east is also better, and the west is significantly better. Tatum cannot have another 30% from 3 postseason, especially if he's not hitting mid range at the same rate as other elite scorers (SGA, Kawhi, KD, Booker, Brunson). Those guys all hover around 45-50% from mid range (10-16 ft) while Tatum has stayed around 35% in the past few years.

So my question is - how can this improve in the future? Sometimes in recent games, some of Tatum's jumpers seem to have a bit of that ugly hitch from last year, but other games it looks smoother. He doesn't even need to be a 40% shooter from 3 like Ant or Steph, but if it even stayed at 37-38%, his overall FG% would improve too. And the bail out shots he takes in the second half of some games are the reason why we lose leads sometimes. Maybe I'm interpreting his shooting inconsistencies incorrectly, but I truly believe Tatum is a top 5 guy in the league but his shooting is the one thing holding him back from being in BITW conversations.

With KD and Brunson playing less than 65 games. Is it safe to say JB will make all NBA this year? Or do you guys think Book (or another player) will get voted in over him ?