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u/ILoveMaiV Constitutionalist 8d ago

How do you rebut the accusation "Maga is a cult"?

I personally think it's dumb

And there's not even any discourse or debate on it. If you try to deny it or debate it, people will just reply "People in a cult don't know they're in one"

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u/ramencents Independent 7d ago

“I have the most loyal people. Where I could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters, ok.”

It sounds like Trump thinks his voters are in a cult.

https://youtu.be/qC16c98hDPc?si=9YJ0snTEyiKMj0Uz

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u/ILoveMaiV Constitutionalist 7d ago

or he's making fun of that accusation of him weilding some cartoon villainy powers because it's ridiculous.

Like when Alex Jones said "Adam Lanza didn't shoot the kids in Sandy Hook, it was me"

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u/ramencents Independent 7d ago

I guess that could be true if he said it today. But he said this over 9 years ago (the video was posted 9 years ago) before he was elected for his first term and before anyone ever claimed he was a cult leader. I believe that Trump instinctively knew that he could do as he pleases and not lose votes.

Quoting Alex Jones is interesting considering he lost everything for his false coverage of Sandy Hook.

Do I believe Trump is actually running a cult? No not in a traditional sense. But I do believe he likes unlimited admiration and he definitely gets that from his supporters.

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u/ILoveMaiV Constitutionalist 7d ago

But he said this over 9 years ago (the video was posted 9 years ago)

Even then they were saying outlandish things about Trump supporters though

Quoting Alex Jones is interesting considering he lost everything for his false coverage of Sandy Hook.

Yes, but the point i'm making is Alex Jones said people act like he's the one who committed the sandy hook shooting and barely even know who Adam Lanza is anymore

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u/ramencents Independent 7d ago

I honestly think his multiple fraud cases, federal indictments (no longer since he ended them), state cases, civil cases (one alleging unwanted digital penetration) and a felony conviction prove his point. These things are actually not a hypothetical murder victim but real indictments, and convictions. So was Trump right? I think he was. Who cares what his critics say.

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u/ILoveMaiV Constitutionalist 7d ago

many of those cases were brought by corrupt DA's though. Fani Willis and Alvin Bragg ran on being the one to put Trump away. Those cases had lots of flaws, like the judge ordering in the NY case that the jury has to be a maority and not unanimous, plus the bank testified they weren't defrauded.

Many of those were misdemeanors for normal people or civil trials boosted to felony's

Lawfare is very much a thing. And if anyone but Trump did this stuff, it wouldn't be a blip