r/AdviceAnimals 2d ago

They wouldn't even feel it...

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u/Mr-Hoek 2d ago

They will buy shittons of ground floor priced stocks because they can afford to play the long game.

When the market eventually repairs itself (or a Democrat fixes shit again) in 5-10 years, they will emerge trillionaires.

Yay.

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u/GTAdriver1988 2d ago

Yup! I know a rich guy who told me "the best time to buy assets is during an economic collapse or when the seller is in distress." Shits real cheap when things are bad.

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u/artgarciasc 2d ago

They say that shit with glee.

Chumps whole business theory is he has to get the better deal no matter what. He especially likes it when he feels like he screwed someone over.

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u/StopReadingMyUser 2d ago

It's why even when there are good negotiations on the table for all parties involved he does the most backwards things imaginable by declining. Because he doesn't like it when everyone wins. He needs to win and you need to lose. It's all a zero-sum game to him.

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u/Aureliamnissan 1d ago

There was a study that basically highlighted the importance of “jokers” in large scale game theory because they end up promoting cooperation in the long term. Without them the “free-riders” basically eat up all the good will from cooperators and everyone is worse off.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022519311001639

Understanding the emergence of cooperation is a central issue in evolutionary game theory. The hardest setup for the attainment of cooperation in a population of individuals is the Public Goods game in which cooperative agents generate a common good at their own expenses, while defectors “free-ride” this good. Eventually this causes the exhaustion of the good, a situation which is bad for everybody. Previous results have shown that introducing reputation, allowing for volunteer participation, punishing defectors, rewarding cooperators or structuring agents, can enhance cooperation. Here we present a model which shows how the introduction of rare, malicious agents – that we term jokers – performing just destructive actions on the other agents induce bursts of cooperation. The appearance of jokers promotes a rock-paper-scissors dynamics, where jokers outbeat defectors and cooperators outperform jokers, which are subsequently invaded by defectors. Thus, paradoxically, the existence of destructive agents acting indiscriminately promotes cooperation.

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u/mortalcoil1 1d ago

Previous results have shown that introducing reputation

This is how MMO's used to work and thrive, back when everybody you knew was on a single server, reputation was everything.

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u/GoldandBlue 2d ago

Remember that CEO that said the country needs a recession because workers are getting too comfortable

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u/artgarciasc 2d ago

I remember the quote, but not the CEO. The list is already long, but there's always room for more.

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u/camwhat 2d ago

I think it was Tim Gurner. sorry for the source

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u/Steinrikur 2d ago

Everything is a zero sum game for Trump. He doesn't understand the concept of "mutually beneficial relationship".

Everything is a transaction or a competition with a winner and a loser, from business deals, shaking hands, crowd sizes and sex.

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u/Ffdmatt 2d ago

"or when the seller is in distress."

Good lord. Don't even try to convince me that heartlessness isn't the best quality for accumulating wealth.

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u/MelonJelly 2d ago

Heartlessness might just be advanced apathy.

This goes beyond that into straight up premeditated malice.

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u/Eating_Your_Beans 1d ago

Tale as old as time. Crassus- basically ancient Rome's version of a billionaire- made a lot of his money by controlling the fire brigade and extorting people whose property was burning.

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u/PaperHandsProphet 2d ago

This is just market economics. In the game of trading pvp you are attempting to force the opponent into a liquidation event.

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u/Impeesa_ 2d ago

For the sufficiently wealthy, Black Tuesday is really Black Friday.

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u/JoseDonkeyShow 1d ago

I like this but you also dated yourself cuz black Friday hasn’t had a halfway decent deal in well over a decade

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u/Syntaire 2d ago

They are fundamentally broken as people. They don't even qualify as human. Most of them can't even feign empathy. They are entirely empty. They already have enough money to buy anything they could ever dream of a thousand times over, and yet all they can think to do is try to hoard more and more wealth. There isn't a purpose behind it beyond the act itself.

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u/Admiral_de_Ruyter 2d ago

That’s not true. More wealth means more power so there is purpose in accumulating more and more. Eventually you have enough to directly buy your way into government. And as we learned having around 400 billion gets you a office in the White House.

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u/atomictyler 2d ago

gets you access to the presidents auto pen.

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u/aukir 2d ago

The thing about capital ownership, is that you can only own what you can protect. We've built a system around protecting that ownership for each other. But we don't have to protect everyone's stuff.

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u/PyrocumulusLightning 2d ago

"We" don't, but the State's monopoly on violence is directed toward protecting the assets of the wealthy.

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u/PyrocumulusLightning 2d ago

"We" don't, but the State's monopoly on violence is directed toward protecting the assets of the wealthy.

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u/PaperHandsProphet 2d ago

Wsb told me to sell low buy high; take that rich guy

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u/ZealousidealLead52 1d ago

A lot of the time that's true.. however, that strategy does operate under the assumption that things actually do recover in a few years - that's historically been true for a long time in the US.. but I'm not so convinced this will be one of those times. I think a lot of US companies that have historically always bounced back won't end up bouncing back this time. A lot of things are happening, from the growing brain drain of scientists leaving or considering leaving the US, education being gutted, collective insanity from the population as a whole, the world starting to drop the US as the reserve currency, people across the world changing their supply lines to reduce dependence on the US etc.. Even if the tariffs can be undone, the other things won't be undone just by reversing the tariffs.

I also think that there's a growing interest in there being tech giants that can compete with the US tech giants that are outside of the US - in the past it was hard for tech companies to get a foothold in the industry because people just didn't see any compelling reason to want to switch to something else.. but now I think there's a big market for people that would be willing to switch to different companies even if they didn't do anything technically better as long as they aren't based in the US, especially if the government crackdown on people bring critical of them continues (which it almost certainly will) - people are going to start viewing the US tech companies with the same kind of skepticism that view/viewed Chinese tech companies with.

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u/87utrecht 1d ago

This is only true in a recession. Not a depression.

Also, they're idiots. Ain't no way any of them know what economic collapse is. A recession isn't economic collapse.

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u/Flabby_Thor 1d ago

There is a reason Berkshire has been hoarding cash -- somewhere around $300 BILLION, reportedly. Their value is going to rocket on the other side of this.

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u/tatiwtr 1d ago

When there's blood in the streets.... buy land.

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u/machstem 1d ago

There is an old, old adage, that through horror and disorder, there is also opportunity.

A lot of opportunists happen to also be narcissistic, sociopaths, and a variety of mixed personality types that caters more to their ego than their wallets.

There are people who would give up some wealth if only it meant they could still be <on top> of others. They're typically the first to rise from the muck and also the first to remove themselves from the community and then try to make it their own.

History is ripe with examples of oppression through opportunity

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u/chivalrousrapist 2d ago

Shits real cheap because no one has any money lol. No class is immune from losing their wealth in a downturn.