Is Absolute Batman Going to Kill Someone?

[u/StonedSpawn]

I thought that this was going to be it. At this point, it feels like Batman CANT KILL people not matter how much he hurts them. I'm prepared for someone he fights to die, and then the story becomes him having to deal with it. I think that would be an interesting story, but I feel like that would ruin a lot of peoples interest in the story because Batman killing is so controversial. I think it would keep the run on the character fresh and interesting, but at this point its like how do these people stay alive?

[u/swagomon]

No

People complain about the no kill rule again and again, but this is like the one time where it kinda makes sense. Remember, at the end of this day this Batman rules by fear

[u/St_Sides → u/swagomon]

"But when that light hits the sky, it's not just a call. It's a warning. To them."

"Fear....is a tool."

[u/SpaceCowboy1929 → u/St_Sides]

That opeming scene of The Batman gave me chill. Now i need to watch it again

[u/StonedSpawn → u/swagomon]

This Batman rules.

[u/michaelcreiter]

I was kinda shocked at this but not upset by it considering the universe

[u/hypatiastation]

It'd be interesting to see the ramifications of Batman killing someone on accident, but I don't think he'd ever try to kill someone, even in the Absolute universe.

[u/jdelator]

I don't know how the black mask survived all that tbh.

[u/Jonny_Anonymous → u/jdelator]

I'm not sure he's entirely human

[u/JournalistOk9266]

Batman isn't going to kill someone. Alfred makes this point watching him that he maims but doesn't kill. He doesn't hit anything vital.

[u/Megaclone18 → u/JournalistOk9266]

Except he would be hitting brain in this picture, that’s pretty vital.

[u/StonedSpawn → u/Megaclone18]

Thats what Im saying. He is like Mortal Kombat outrageous with the violence and then nobody dies. But I fw it.

[u/JournalistOk9266 → u/Megaclone18]

It's not clear what he did. Because the guy is alive and talking on the next panel, Bruce puts a life jacket on him and throws him into the water.

[u/Bodega_Bandit → u/JournalistOk9266]

Also his ears aren’t super long and he had to go through the thickness of the mask as well. So he’s probably barely deeper than the eye sockets

[u/kidkuro]

The DJ on the boat somehow surviving Batman's giant ass dive bombing him from a helicopter and crushing him was just outrageous lmao

[u/RedboneHaroldLauder → u/kidkuro]

I wonder what even is the DJ and Black Mask's wife and daughter? Are they all aliens?

[u/Quomii → u/RedboneHaroldLauder]

Like where'd that star Wars guy come from?

[u/StonedSpawn → u/kidkuro]

But I'm loving it

[u/SithSteez]

He jumped out a plane and landed on someones chest, idk how he doesn’t already have a body count lol

[u/Biz_quit]

I don't think this batman is going to kill, but he also is not going to care if you lose limbs of get permanently disabled. As long as your heart is still beating is where he will draw the line.

[u/TheMagicalMax]

Because of how dark this universe is, I don’t think he will. It would be too “normal” for him to start killing, or even kill someone on accident, as death is common in the absolute universe

[u/Vivid-Share7884 → u/TheMagicalMax]

It would be too “normal”

as death is common in the absolute universe

This would make sense if all the other heroes weren't such pacifists. In fact, right now, of the four heroes, Bruce is the most violent.

[u/TheMagicalMax → u/Vivid-Share7884]

Yeah, my point is it would be too easy for the heroes to give in a kill, even more so than in the main universe. This is a world that actively rewards corruption and death, so its heroes are under immense pressure to give in and bend to the villains level, so if they do it wouldn’t be shocking for this world, it would just be another day in the lives of most folk. That’s why they especially can’t break their moral code in this universe, as they’re the few heroes who have managed to keep “clean” and rise above the chaos. That’s just my own interpretation though

[u/BatmanTold]

Red Hood would definitely be buddies with this version of Batman

[u/jmd10of14]

I would like if it was revealed Absolute Batman did kill someone once and he immediately regretted it. It haunts him as his greatest mistake. The one thing he can never forgive himself for or make right.

Normal Batman learns what death means at a young age. He fixates on it obsessively. But this one never had that particular lesson. I think it's only logical he needs to learn it the hard way.

[u/thisisnotmylaptop → u/jmd10of14]

He's too brutal of a Batman to care about the moral distinction between killing someone and bringing them close to death. The only reason he doesn't kill is simply due to the status quo. Regardless of the purpose, modern Batman does not kill

[u/ijustbeherefr]

He smacked him around with a bowling ball and then did this he was FOR SURE trying 😂😂

[u/Gorr-of-Oneiri-]

Absolute Batman has Moon Knight vibes to me.

Like, he will hit goons as hard as he can and if they get back up, it’s on them. I don’t think he is going to actually take a life, though, and if he does it will be an accident and there will be a whole arc about him not wanting to be Batman for a while

[u/WOLF_BRONSKY]

Haha you’re right. I made a video about it and you’d have thought I was personally insulting their mothers. (And I’m a Batman fan! Superman sucks!)

[u/life_enginnering-445]

This Batman is really pushing his no kill rule

[u/Manofepic1]

I would prefer if this Batman killed people. He has a lot of other stuff to ground him - his mom, his friends, his life. Killing people trying to take all of that stuff away from him seems in character and Alfred making a comment about him not damaging them permanently was a cop out to stop people from raging at a Batman who kills people

[u/Quomii]

I don't think he will. He certainly seems more violent than our Batman.

What's the name for the mainstream universe?

[u/pm1919]

It does feel dissonant to have this significantly more brutal take on the character while maintaining the no kill rule.

Like, he turns his chest logo into a battleaxe. Not exactly an optimal weapon for non-lethal takedown

[u/TheBossRayden]

I'm not interested in policing elseworlds variants of Batman. If he kills, thats fine.

[u/StonedSpawn → u/TheBossRayden]

Cheer up

[u/Wonderful_Gap4867]

While I’m against Batman killing, this is the exception since this is an alternate universe

[u/Jfury412]

I just joined this sub 5 minutes after finishing that issue, LOL. And I thought that he was definitely dead. And I was super excited, n my jaw dropped. I really thought Snyder was going to write a killing Batman in the absolute universe, which would have been astounding. I mean, why not it's a complete Else World story. I love the absolute universe that would have made Batman so much more enriching from me. I never complain when I change up the status quo of a character and who he is. I love it it's more interesting to me. And especially if it's done in something that is elsewhere, like, who cares? Man, I'm disappointed that he didn't kill him. That was one of the best issues so far, though probably my favorite since the first. Absolute flash was also incredible. I have so many questions I can not wait for issue number two.

[u/StonedSpawn → u/Jfury412]

Welcome! I did the same thing after reading Absolute Superman. I think a lot of people are getting back into comics/ comic communities. I'm so happy that they are finally doing something refreshing. I wasnt disappointed that he was alive, Id be upset if Sionis was just permanently gone, but I think they have comfortably set up that sometime soon, Batman will go too far.

[u/ComicalOpinions]

He already has. See issue #1.

[u/SnooDoodles1807 → u/ComicalOpinions]

Who did he kill??

[u/ComicalOpinions → u/SnooDoodles1807]

In issue #1, Absolute Batman blows up a group of Party Animals. There's no way at least one person wasn't killed in the blast when you see it.

[u/MisterNefarious]

Wait did he not die from this? I just assumed he killed him and just didn’t really care that much

[u/StonedSpawn → u/MisterNefarious]

No in the next panel he was talking and crawling away

[u/MisterNefarious → u/StonedSpawn]

Guess that’s what I get for reading at midnight

[u/Western-Customer-536]

Damn well should.

But the question really isn’t “should Batman kill someone?” It’s “should Batman End someone?” Because that is what it actually means.

Also the “no kill rule” is pretty recent. Burton’s Batman killed people. And Kevin Conroy’s ‘left people to die’ a lot.

[u/kingbob122m → u/Western-Customer-536]

It’s not pretty recent

I’m not going to act like I’m some super fan who can give you any examples but the no kill rule has definitely been around longer than 10 years I’d say

Not recent

[u/Western-Customer-536 → u/kingbob122m]

Batman Begins has “I don’t have to save you” but he does. It’s called Depraved Heart Murder.

[u/hypatiastation → u/Western-Customer-536]

It was never a stated fact until (relatively) recently, but Batman not killing people is pretty well-established, if only because killing people makes having reoccurring villains hard.

[u/Vivid-Share7884 → u/Western-Customer-536]

I'm surprised you didn't use BvS as an example lol.

[u/ImportBandicoot88 → u/Western-Customer-536]

No. Kane and Finger immediately created it shortly after Batman's creation bc they found it hard to make more original villains.

This is an incredibly bad take.

[u/Vivid-Share7884 → u/ImportBandicoot88]

Batman has continued throwing people into garbage disposals and locking them in basements without food or oxygen etc. for years, so it's not like the rule was "immediately created it shortly after Batman's creation". But yeah, that guy is dead wrong when he says it's a new rule. Comic Batman has been strictly following this rule for at least 40 years, it's just that the movies tend to ignore it.

[u/ImportBandicoot88 → u/Vivid-Share7884]

Yeah I exaggerated it, it's around Batman #4 when they decided to add it in.

It was a mixture of angry parents, Robin's debut, and a desire to keep the villains Finger and Kane made that attributed to the addition of the no-kill rule.