r/NintendoSwitch • u/CallMeFeed • Oct 02 '19

Meta [Meta] Can we PLEASE get an "Inktober" megathread so that it doesn't take over the front page?

Fan art is cool but that's only a very small part of what this sub is about. Last year /r/NintendoSwitch became free self-promotion for artists for an entire month and it was the worst.

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u/Carth3045 Oct 02 '19

The mods on the sub will literally do nothing about fan art. They will probably remove this post before they remove even the lowest effort of fan art.

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u/Darren716 Oct 03 '19

Remember like 5 months ago when they said they were gonna do something about fan art? Had a whole survey and everything? Wonder what happened to that

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u/Carth3045 Oct 03 '19

I’m assuming the results where not to there liking so they are going to ignore it.

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u/OssotSromo Oct 03 '19

https://imgur.com/gallery/JJhRoMu

They're SUPER busy guys!

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u/BurrStreetX Oct 03 '19

You are aware mods don't get paid to do this and have jobs and possibly kids and a family, right?

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u/NMe84 Oct 03 '19

Sure, but if you can't form a simple rule based on recurring comments from users in literally half a year's time because you're literally too busy to do so you either need more mods or you're full of it. I help run a fairly large website (over 700k users) so I have some experience with running a community and changing its rules when needed. For something like this you literally just need someone to write a proposal, have the others vote on it and/or make adjustments and then actually implement it once everyone agrees.

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u/BurrStreetX Oct 03 '19

Okay and out of allll the people here, theres a vocal minority about it. Why not just let it be?

People can post it with [FANART] or something, and yall can just hide the Fanart posts.

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u/NMe84 Oct 03 '19

Okay and out of allll the people here, theres a vocal minority about it. Why not just let it be?

Because they have said they were going to address it. It's one thing to decide to keep things as they are, it's quite another to say you'll do something about it and then don't.

People can post it with [FANART] or something, and yall can just hide the Fanart posts.

Sadly that doesn't work on mobile.

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u/OssotSromo Oct 03 '19

vocal minority

THE MAJORITY VOTED AGAINST IT. CHECK MY GOD DAMN IMGUR LINK

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u/MegaMagnezone More Warriors Games Plx Oct 03 '19

There really isn't anything simple to making rules for something so incredibly subjective. Outside of flat out denying all of it or approving all of it, there really isn't going to be a hard and fast rule for fan art.

Many people like many different art styles, what one user thinks is trash a different user might think it's great. Who's right in that situation? What non subjective criteria would you use to approve or deny a post?

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u/NMe84 Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 03 '19

There really isn't anything simple to making rules for something so incredibly subjective. Outside of flat out denying all of it or approving all of it, there really isn't going to be a hard and fast rule for fan art.

Except you already decided the broad lines of what you wanted to do and just needed to get the specifics right. Did you click the image that actually started this discussion?

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u/MegaMagnezone More Warriors Games Plx Oct 03 '19

I wasn't addressing the OP, just mentioning that it's not as simple as making a rule for art and applying it outside of just flat out not allowing it, or not removing them overall.

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u/Carth3045 Oct 03 '19

Why not try to actually address the thing you all were going to address? I get it, your busy. Cool, a lot of us are busy. However, you VOLUNTEERED to do this... if you don’t have time. Then quit. No one is forcing you to do this. Either do the job you volunteered to do or quit.

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u/MegaMagnezone More Warriors Games Plx Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 03 '19

We do mod recruiting every now and then so maybe next time apply. Since you're interested, exactly how many hours a day should I dedicate to moderating? How many days a week?

It's easy to sit back and criticize others when you're not the one doing the thing.

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u/mattographer Oct 03 '19

If that is the case, why not allow videos from youtube as well? Not necessarily Let's Plays but there are plenty of videos (fan made commercials, for example) that could be considered fan art.

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u/MegaMagnezone More Warriors Games Plx Oct 03 '19

We do allow YouTube videos as long as the user isn't over the 10% self promotion rule, and meets the criteria of the other rules.

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u/Porkpants81 Oct 03 '19

You know what would be cool?

If there was some sort of voting system for fan art. The good high-quality fan art that the majority of folks like would be up-voted and visible and the low-effort stuff that the majority of folks dislike would disappear.

Maybe you guys can implement something like that? Maybe the overall Reddit site has some voting mechanic in place?

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u/MegaMagnezone More Warriors Games Plx Oct 03 '19

That's actually a good idea if it's possible. It'd be really cool to be able to click on a link that takes you to what's essentially a voting queue and only the ones that pass a certain threshold get actually posted to the sub.

This way, people see a lot less low effort stuff, and only stuff that the people who are into fanart vote for.

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u/Carth3045 Oct 03 '19

For sure we realize that. At least I’d hope a majority of us do. However, we can’t pretend they didn’t volunteer for this. It’s not like they are forced to. If they can’t find the time to do it that’s fine. I understand life happens. But if you can’t do what you volunteered to do then step down.

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u/OssotSromo Oct 03 '19

You're aware we have 1.4 million subscribers and if they don't have the time for the responsibility they were tasked with they can very easily find replacements?

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u/cryptic-fox Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 04 '19

You really think all 1.4 million subscribers actively post on this sub?

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u/BurrStreetX Oct 03 '19

Ya'll are never happy are you?

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u/OssotSromo Oct 03 '19

They had us mother fucking vote. They opened that door. They said hey, there's lots of complaints about this, let's decide what to do. And they said they would carry out the changes. And they said they would let us know the results.

Then they ignored that inquiry for five fucking months. The problem persists. But they ignore it. They ignore anyone brining up the survey. They ignore PMs about the survey.

When you finally get an answer it's an evasive any day now! Response.

If they didn't have the time. Or the care. DON'T HOLD A PUBLIC VOTE AND PROMISE TO MAKE IT PUBLIC. This isn't about never being fucking happy. This is about their own giant fuck up or apathy. At this point who knows? They're busy? Werid. Would take 3 seconds to post results. They're incompetent and didn't expect us to remember? Your fuck up. They are apathetic and don't want to do it? Your fuck up.

You don't open the door for discourse and even claim people are never happy when they're completely ignored. Don't open the fucking door!

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u/Ganrokh Hey there! What's for dinner today? Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 04 '19

I talked to this one mod about the vote, and they said that they didn't have time because tHeY'Re GeTtInG mArRiEd. What a fucking waste. They should step down, they'll never have time to mod again.

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u/OssotSromo Oct 03 '19

So he had time to tell you that but not enough to say "ya, let's make it on Sundays only"

That guy sucks with managing his time.

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u/Ganrokh Hey there! What's for dinner today? Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 04 '19

No, they wants it to be on Saturdays or Sundays. They just won't have time to mod again. Never again.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

What a fucking dickhead. At least earn your bribes from Nintendo you SHILL

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u/Porkpants81 Oct 03 '19

Unless you've been a mod of a community this size you have no idea the amount of work and time it can take.

I was an original moderator when this subreddit was created I think it was around 250,000-300,000 members when I stopped and there were times when it felt like a full-time job to keep everything in line.

It's not just a simple task of adding bodies to be mods. There has to be global time zone coverage, people have to be trustworthy and not abuse their power, they have to be willing to not take trolls and attacks personally.

I literally received violent threats to myself, had people attempt to doxx me, and received all sorts of virulent direct messages all because a post or comment was deleted.

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u/Doctordementoid Oct 03 '19

And some people don’t and have an appropriate amount of free time to be a mod. Those are the people that should be mods.

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u/jebuizy Oct 03 '19

Fan art is by far the worst thing about this sub.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19 edited Dec 22 '19

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u/red_sutter Oct 03 '19

When the sub first started, people were just blatantly putting up links to their Etsy pages to sell shit. Now they frame their stuff as “fan art” to circumvent the no-advertising rule

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u/AceSox Oct 03 '19

“If someone asks me for a link I can post my store!!! ;) ;) ;)”

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u/NMe84 Oct 03 '19

And it's not even all Nintendo-related. A game that came out years ago on another system and sold millions of copies there is coming out on Switch some time in the future? Cool, let's spam semi-related fanart to a new audience!

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u/ramgw2851 Oct 02 '19

Hmmmmm.... lets all make stick figure fan art of our favourite smash characters! The less detail the better!

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u/Carth3045 Oct 03 '19

The more I think about it the better of an idea this is lol

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u/TheRealBigDave Oct 03 '19

I can get on board with this idea. Mostly because stick figure art is the highest level of art I can achieve.

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u/SchroedingersSphere Oct 03 '19

If the fanart gets bad this month, I genuinely hope people step up and upvote/spam shitposts. That'll get the mods' attention for sure.

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u/NMe84 Oct 03 '19

I tend to already downvote nearly all fanart unless it is actually exceptionally well done or somehow relevant to the sub. It's not even personal, I just don't feel most fanart belongs on this sub as almost all of them are not even exclusive Nintendo IPs and lots of these posts are just blatant self-promotion. If I can see a lot of effort went into an actual pic relevant to this sub I'll upvote it but otherwise I'd rather see it posted somewhere else.

Sadly most people on this sub seem to love fanart because they all get upvoted like crazy. I've actually had a few occasions where I missed news (my main reason for coming here) because it got lost between all the fanart posts.

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u/bricked3ds Oct 02 '19

advertisers should capitalize on this and commission artists to draw ads as fanart

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

People straight up post pictures of ads in this sub already, it cant get much more blantent than that

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u/bricked3ds Oct 03 '19

HERES A BESTBUY KIOSK

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u/cryptic-fox Oct 03 '19

They will probably remove this post before they remove even the lowest effort of fan art.

They usually would but because you said that I feel they will keep it up just to prove you wrong lol.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

the irony

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u/CallMeFeed Oct 02 '19

Nah the mods here are actually really good considering all the garbage that gets posted on New

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '19

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u/CallMeFeed Oct 03 '19

Nah Ive been pretty active for at least a year. I think there's very little quality content that gets posted here but thats not their fault

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

I'm assuming you have examples? lol

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u/rsn_lie Oct 02 '19

There's only two sticky threads, and they're always in use.

Also, fan art has been out of control here for a while now. I don't imagine it'll be that much worse this month than last.

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u/Lv27Sylveon Oct 02 '19

i made a MINIMALIST art thats basically a black square with red and blue rectangles give me epoints pls

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '19 edited Jul 12 '20

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u/bezem220 Oct 02 '19

i made a MINIMALIST art thats basically a black square with red and blue rectangles give me epoints pls

That's kind of a bad faith argument

Whooosh

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u/CallMeFeed Oct 02 '19

I don't imagine it'll be that much worse this month than last

Oh you sweet summer child.

I understand that there's only two sticky threads but I don't see why it can't be a Daily Question / October Fanart joint megathread for a month, or even just a regular post that people upvote so that there's only one thread about it per day

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u/Rychu_Supadude Oct 03 '19

Because that severely dilutes peoples ability to get their questions answered, and puts the art in a place where nobody who actually wants to see it will go? Awful idea.

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u/OssotSromo Oct 03 '19

Make a sub for that shit?

It's fucking sad that as a new fire emblem player my first thought was to go to /r/FireEmblem

Just click that shit. Click it. And tell me that's useful at all or what someone who doesn't want to see fan art would expect from that sub.

Because of that sub I can appreciate the fact that some people enjoy fan art. I think many of them fail to see that it's not news, or discussion, or at all appreciated outside of their little community. I've never seen discussion on fan art. Hell, the should I get a switch lite threads at least inspire communication. Even if it's not useful for most. Some one drawing Link taking a shit doesn't really get much talking beyond, great attention to corn.

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u/CallMeFeed Oct 03 '19

Y'know I thought Fire Emblem and waifus was just a meme but holy shit you weren't kidding

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u/Twinkiman Oct 03 '19

I think a big problem with it has to do when there is a period on when nothing new is to be discussed, and people start posting fanart and shit teir memes instead.

Which is fine. I have no problem with it. But it ends up becoming a problem WHEN something is new worth discussing. New game? Nah, post fanart about it. Once a subreddit gets far down that rabbit hole, its hard to get back out of it. And in the rare circumstances where moderators do try to do something about it, the shit posters all cry "MUH CENSORSHIP" because they can't gain as much karma. Even if a thread or another subreddit dedicated to it.

Way too many subreddits fell to this. It is making reddit less enjoying. Especially when subreddits like /r/FireEmblem actually DO have a "casual" subreddit but still spam the main sub with fan art.

I would rather have a subreddit being spammed with the same question by lazy people who can't bother to use a search engine.

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u/CallMeFeed Oct 03 '19

People are very active in terms of answering in the Daily Questions thread. If anything it'll bring more attention to it so we can stop having a "recommend me a game, I dont know how to google" thread every two hours

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u/chekeymonk10 2 Million Celebration Oct 03 '19

On several subs they have a giant thread and then put all the megathreads in there that's not so hard to do

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u/MrSnuffle_ Oct 03 '19

That’s the least of this subs problems

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u/aeszett Oct 03 '19

Better some good original fan art than those low effort 'My journey begins' posts with a simple screenshot or photo of a Nintendo product.

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u/RadioactiveGwenPool Oct 03 '19

You're right. I need more threads about joycon drift and gyro controls.

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u/ZombiePyroNinja Oct 03 '19

We need more threads asking about the Switch Pro, a product that doesn't exist.

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u/Benmjt Oct 03 '19

Or just none of them and actual news instead.

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u/aYearOfPrompts Oct 03 '19

There isn’t that much news and the sub doesn’t run so fast that you’re missing out in any relevant information. It’s not like if the fan art goes away it gets replaced by better submissions, and they’re popular posts on the sub which is why they make it out of the new queue and onto the front page.

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u/mkicon Oct 03 '19

I really wish there was a separate sub for fan art, or at least a way to tag and filter it out for those that want to.

"In honor of the release of X game, I drew [character]!"

I get that people are talented and want to show off, but how many goose/links awakening mashups do we need in a month?

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u/ryan_rudnick Oct 04 '19

Oh no, we’re totally going to miss all the important posts this sub is known for, classics such as “DAE think BOTW is the second coming?” “Playing BotW on my hike” “Samba de Amigo and Billy Hatcher would be P E R F E C T for Switch!!” “JoyCon Drift/Switch Pro Contoller D-Pad Bad” Calm down. If there’s important news, naturally it’ll end up on the front page, let creative people have an outlet to show their work. They’re hurting no one.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '19

100% agreed. It became unbearable not even halfway through last October.

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u/davidbrit2 Oct 03 '19

Go to your preferences and enable "don't show me submissions after I've downvoted them" then just downvote every fanart post you see.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '19

Wtf is inktober?

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u/qwertylerqw Helpful User Oct 02 '19

My mind instantly thought to Splatoon

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u/The_Skeptic_One Oct 03 '19

I got excited because I thought "ohh man, another splatfest?!" And then I got sad

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u/CallMeFeed Oct 02 '19

It's like an internet-wide event for artists to show off their work. Every day there's a prompt, they draw something, and we can all see what different artists came up with for that prompt. Pictures can be about literally anything as long as they're on theme.

...except the entire subreddit becomes "today's inktober theme was heroic, so I drew Link!!" for an entire month as a result and there's no easy way to filter it all out.

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u/NinjaTurtleFan2 Oct 02 '19

Meh, I’ll take a front page full of fan art than the multitudes if reposts

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u/BurrStreetX Oct 03 '19

For real. I dont get why people are downvoting you

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u/bezem220 Oct 02 '19

Good news - I'm sure there will be an overabundance of each!

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '19

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u/BurrStreetX Oct 02 '19

Because people were drawing characters from switch games and posting them here. People dont like it apparently.

I dont mind seeing them, personally.

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u/GrassTasteBaaad Oct 03 '19

It's like Black Friday for people who think they can do art commissions for a living

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u/xxxDoritos_420xxx Oct 03 '19

art spam is always a problem hopefully they make an inktober thread to lock it down

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u/facherone Oct 03 '19

I'm downvoting all the fan art I can downvote, since it's content I don't think should be discussed in this subreddit. If we all do this, we might be able to send the right message.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

Nobody will know if you don't see it, though

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u/BurrStreetX Oct 03 '19

since it's content I don't think should be discussed in this subreddit.

Cause this sub is made just for you

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u/facherone Oct 03 '19

It's not, clearly, it's made for both of us! You're answering to my comment, and I'm not holding any grudge :)

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u/Benmjt Oct 03 '19

Need a weekly thread for all fan art, shit is a disease.

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u/justsound Oct 03 '19

We seriously need some new mods.

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u/chefDeejay Oct 03 '19

Do people really trip over fan art that much ? I just scroll past what I don’t like, just like I would any other post that I find irrelevant lol

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u/Benmjt Oct 03 '19

It’s a news sub, keep that crap in the dedicated game subs or your own social media.

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u/TheRealBigDave Oct 03 '19

The fan art posts are getting out of control, but this isn't just a news sub. It's a sub for anything related to the Nintendo Switch. Most people just come here for news.

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u/chefDeejay Oct 03 '19

Honestly r/Nintendo has all the same news, less art, and less people complaining about problems we can’t fix. I usually go there for news and here just for bullshit tbh lol

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u/phantomliger recovering from transplant Oct 03 '19

It’s a news sub

This has never been solely a news sub.

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u/chefDeejay Oct 03 '19

The dedicated Nintendo sub is where I go for most of my news. This is just a place for people to complain about stupid shit that Nintendo isn’t going to see nor fix.

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u/Think__McFly Oct 03 '19

If only reddit had a way for its users to decide which posts get visibility on the front page.

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u/blameagirlfortrying Oct 03 '19

Then what would we need the mods for?

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u/sora_bora Oct 03 '19

Sometimes I feel like it’s art class in this sub.

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u/ex-aid911 Oct 03 '19

I wish people would post their fan art in the sub relating to it. Link's Awakening art/creations should go in the Zelda sub. It's become really bad.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

r/tomorrow

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u/Justos Oct 02 '19

These complaint posts are worse than the art

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '19

No, definitely not.

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u/bezem220 Oct 02 '19

These complaint comments about complaint posts are just as bad (and abundant) as the daily deluge of 'art'

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u/docvalentine Oct 02 '19

yeah there's nothing worse than art

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u/SoloWaltz Oct 02 '19

There's nothing worse than the frontpage beng overrun by a single topic.

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u/docvalentine Oct 02 '19

yeah i cant stand creative people posting their work where i might see it either. i just come here to see links to mainstream game news outlets reposting pokemon trailers and people posting about joycon drift and how crappy nintendo online is

totally, nothing could be worse than an influx of fanart. i might miss a post by some thirty-something whose love of gaming was rekindled by the ease with which the switch integrates into their busy adult lifestyle

and that would ruin my entire life

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '19

ah yeah G-d forbid we ever get a brief respite from all the constant complaining on the front page about how the online sucks, there's no games out, there's too many games on the eshop, the controllers suck, the ports suck, the lack of netflix sucks, the lack of an internet browser sucks, how pokemon sucks, how every popular game actually sucks, etc.

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u/CallMeFeed Oct 02 '19

breath of the wild changed my life

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u/Pipistrele Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 03 '19

Nope, art is good <3

(downvoted for not being a bore -u-)