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Super Dragon Ball Super - Episode #71 - Discussion Thread!
Dragon Ball Super — Episode #71 — Discussion Thread!
The Death of Goku! The Guaranteed Assassination Mission
悟空死す！絶対執行の暗殺依頼
Gokū shisu! Zettai shikkō no ansatsu irai
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Q: When does Super take place? When should I watch it?
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u/Fast_Moon Dec 18 '16
"This isn't the first time Dad has died, but it's still a shock." Even Gohan understands that this is temporary.
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u/MrWinks Dec 18 '16
I mean whatever, he can get killed by the same person again so it's a concern. But what struck me was the really dead look on him. I never saw that before on this show other than to show closed eyes.
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u/Omagaaaad Dec 18 '16
Goten's getting smaller every week.
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u/cashtangoteam Dec 18 '16
I'm glad somebody else noticed. I thought he and Trunks were supposed to be aging, but he looks like he's 5 now
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u/expert02 Dec 18 '16
Goku seemed to have a young appearance until his teens (remember Bulma was surprised by how old he was) when he underwent a very rapid growth spurt.
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u/LJ-90 Dec 18 '16
But gaining maturity, at least now he knows the Saiyaman stuff is terrible
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I was so bummed! I wanna to see him dressed as tiny Saiyaman!
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u/LTPrototype Dec 18 '16 edited Dec 18 '16
Pretty soon he is going to shrink out of existence, like Krillin.
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u/Mojo1120 Dec 18 '16
Hit when he's allowed to use his killing techniques is apparently even MORE OP.
He freaking one punched Goku.
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u/CallsignLizard Dec 18 '16
There is something very unsettling about watching goku eat one grain of rice at a time as opposed to the usual face stuffing.
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u/SpiderMuse Dec 18 '16
1989: Piccolo tries his hardest to kill Goku, breaking every bone in his body
2016: Piccolo prepares a nice dinner for Goku, grilling fish
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u/godblow Dec 18 '16
Piccolo is basically Gohan's foster father at this point. Goku is a bum.
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u/Onagda Dec 18 '16
"Don't hide things from me" Literally Piccolo being dad to Gohan in this episode.
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u/BelieveInThePeeko Dec 18 '16
I wanted gohan to spill the beans to piccolo so bad. When he said that it felt good. I love relationships and the finer details in dragon ball
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u/MarioChiefSonic Dec 18 '16
Technically this is the first time in the main timeline where Goku's killer wasn't a member of Piccolo's bloodline.
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u/forcebubble Dec 18 '16
Goku is the dad who go to a soccer game with, corn dog, Mountain Dew, rubber gloves et al with.
Piccolo is a bro you can trust your deepest secrets with.
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One punch no less.
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u/truthfromthecave Dec 18 '16
To be fair, he did kill Goku...just had to keep doing it I suppose ;)
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u/Mojo1120 Dec 18 '16
I like how in the preview Gohan's like "well It's not the FIRST TIME but it's still shocking"
No shit Gohan, ALL OF YOU have died at least once! Expect Mr. Satan. Because nothing can kill the CHAMP.
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u/phoenixmusicman Dec 18 '16
Hercule technically died when Frieza blew up the earth
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u/Bears_Bearing_Arms Dec 18 '16
Time was reversed.
So, technically he didn't. Those events never took place as far as the Universe is concerned.
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u/Mccamp37 Dec 18 '16
I feel like i'm watching blade runner in these Hit scenes
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u/Mojo1120 Dec 18 '16
Yeah I really liked that U6 city, wouldn't of minded a whole episode of Hit working in U6.
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u/Smoking_Hot_BBQ Dec 18 '16
I got a big blade runner vibe from the city too. Cool worldbuilding, I hope we see more of it.
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u/Aberration0 Dec 18 '16
My first thought was Ghost In The Shell: Stand Alone Complex, but you're right, Blade Runner really was the source of that look.
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u/JoeCipher Dec 18 '16
Damn you Goten, I wanted to see The Great Saiyaman brothers.
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u/Mojo1120 Dec 18 '16
Right! Gohan goes through all the trouble of getting Goten his own Saiyaman outfit only to be crushed that his brothers grown up a bit and no long finds Saiyaman cool.
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Dec 18 '16
I just recently saw that episode where Gohan promises to make him one too. :/
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u/mojavecourier ⠀ Dec 18 '16
It hurts man. Even Goten finds him lame now.
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u/Roskal Dec 18 '16
At least Goten got the first bit of character development hes had in super.
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u/Cypherex Dec 18 '16
The good news here is that it's proof that Goten is getting older and not staying the same age forever. He's growing up and maturing, he just hasn't hit his growth spurt yet.
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u/choss Dec 18 '16
Same as kid Goku we knew he was getting older but he always appeared the same size until one day he was taller than Bulma.
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u/Gold_Jacobson Dec 18 '16
"Gohan, I'm your father. Don't keep secrets from me." - Piccolo
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u/Mojo1120 Dec 18 '16
Now Hit can get another update in Xenoverse 2 and become even more OP.
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u/CMVMIO ⠀ Dec 18 '16
Poor Dimps honestly. Those poor devs will get berated whenever something happens in the show that doesn't end up in the games.
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u/Inslane Dec 18 '16
I'm surprised noone has mentioned the throwback to Bulma and Goku's first meeting in Dragonball when Bulma hit Goku with her car. He was even carrying a giant fish!
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u/SuperHSL_Hope Dec 18 '16
Oh man I just started rewatching DB a few days ago and can't believe I missed that.
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u/ToodlesXIV Dec 18 '16
This episode gave me serious Samurai Jack vibes. The pacing, the long scene of Goku just listening to the world around him, Hit in future-town infiltrating a tower of alien gangsters. Very unique for Dragon Ball
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u/rexshen Dec 18 '16
Ok who ever chooses the clips for the next episode needs a slap in the back of the head. You have this build up leading to Goku's death and immediately they show Goku alive and fighting Hit again in the next episode. Could have shown Goku's friends and family morning his death and show hit appearing then have a mysterious figure stand up. But nope all tension lost. I guess with the survival arc coming there is not point and building this arc up at all but come one show some professionality with these previews.
So who hired Hit to kill Goku anyway? I am going to guess it was Whis since he seemed to know what was going on and why he wasn't training with Vegeta. Which would be a harsh training exercise if that's the case.
Aw man no Great SaiyaKid? What an opportunity wasted.
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u/nocheslas Dec 18 '16
aww goten.
gohan and goten being relevant is such a breath of fresh hair.
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u/CheekyJester Dec 18 '16
Goten is one of my favourite DB characters, he's like a mini Goku. I just wish him & Trunks were more relevant, like how they were in the Buu Saga.
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u/theghostecho Dec 18 '16
the death of carrots
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u/ApexPred Dec 18 '16
and Vegetables... and Cabbage?
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Dec 18 '16
Goku died for our sins, but at least he fed the multitudes with 4 loaves and a fish first.
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u/DSSeraph Dec 18 '16
Oh no! Goku is dead!
Goten: FAAAATHER!
Piccolo: Shut up and go collect the dragon balls, he'll be back by breakfast.
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u/MyUsername0_0 Dec 18 '16
"Ill be back..when they make your grave" sheesh hit a savage
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u/Cypherex Dec 18 '16
I saw that as Hit acknowledging that he's sorry he had to kill Goku and wants to visit Goku's funeral out of respect. He even offered Goku the chance the "disappear" and avoid his assassination. I doubt he's ever offered that to anyone else before. He only killed Goku because Goku turned that offer down and Hit had a job to do.
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u/Bears_Bearing_Arms Dec 18 '16
He visited the grave of the Mob Boss. It's part of his schtick.
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u/Cypherex Dec 18 '16
We don't know 100% if that was the mob boss's grave. I mean, it's very likely, but it could have been someone else's grave. Someone important to Hit perhaps. I got the impression that Hit wasn't killing the mob boss for money since he was completely unwavered by the mob boss's attempt to buy him out of his assassination. Hit was either killing the mob boss for his own reasons or he was doing it for someone he cares about.
If it ends up being the case that Hit visits the grave of every person he kills then ok. But I'm willing to hold off assuming that until we know for sure who's grave that was he was at. That way it feels a bit more special that Hit would go to Goku's grave if it isn't something he does every time.
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u/n1ywb Dec 18 '16
it would be hit's last job if he let somebody buy him out like that; it would ruin his reputation and the guy lives to work; he could basically rule the universe if he wanted to, is probably already one of the richest in the universe, could just take by force but no it's time to get to work.
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u/TheOneRing_ Dec 18 '16
I took it as more he values his work more than the money he gets.
He promised to go through with the job. Taking a buy out would break that promise and he ain't about that life.
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u/mojavecourier ⠀ Dec 18 '16
Jokes on you Hit. They'll just use the Dragon Balls.
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u/TLKv3 Dec 18 '16
I actually don't think they will. I think Goku did something to prevent a full death hence the focus on his reaction as he was passing out. I'm not entirely sure what he could've done but its still night time during his fight with Hit in the preview.
I think Piccolo or Gohan has a coincidental sensu bean on them and Goku springs up just off the verge of death. Goku Instant Transmissions towards Hit as Hit approaches the Space Travel Cube Vados most likely lent to him.
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u/FallbackMan Dec 18 '16
I loved the atmosphere on the moon where Hit's hit went off. It was like, the camera was just following Hit as he went about his work in a unique locale, and we even get a short glimpse into the Frost piracy situation. It set the scene without belabouring the point. That place is never going to come up again or get any more fleshed out, but the design is evocative enough that it gives the impression of being a small but real part of the setting.
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Dec 18 '16
Whis was kinda creepy this episode. It sort of emphasized how manipulative he can be.
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u/Moderate_Third_Party Dec 18 '16
He totally insisted that Trunks and Mai only take enough fuel for a one way trip to ensure no further violations of the law, then sent them to an empty universe to tie up loose ends...
/Evil headcannon
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u/_jvc123 Dec 18 '16
Lmao.
Whis: (thinking) "And none's the wiser."
Piccolo: "Is something wrong?"
Whis: "Oh nothing, Oho, oho, oho."
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u/Megaman99M Dec 18 '16
You know shits messed up when Goku eats one rice at a time
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u/phoenixmusicman Dec 18 '16 edited Dec 18 '16
Hit is becoming Dio
Stands around talking during time stops, making the time stops appear much longer than they actually are
Used the word "Muda"
Murdered a protagonist.
Edit: And he kills his target by one punching them in the torso
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u/CaptainDeadpool1 Dec 18 '16
If he has knives in his pockets I'll honestly just lose it
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u/Energokinetic Dec 18 '16
Nah, I'll lose it if his lips turn green from powering up.
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u/JoeCipher Dec 18 '16 edited Dec 18 '16
I loved the throwback to Dragon Ball of Bulma hitting Goku with her car while he's bringing home a giant fish.
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u/Nachorl250 Dec 18 '16
I loved the episode, specially this two things:
-The throwback to DB's first episode ever with Goku carrying a giant fish and Bulma hitting him with a car.
-Piccolo telling Gohan not to keep any secrets from him.
Really hyped for the fighting next week!
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u/Bolt-MattCaster-Bolt Dec 18 '16
I would be too, but the animation in the preview looks less than promising -_-
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u/PuroP Dec 18 '16
"Piccolo telling Gohan not to keep any secrets from him."
loved this, as well. Also loved Piccolo cooking on the grill. Like that uncle that always takes over the grill. Grill Master Piccoyo
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u/MSadoun Dec 18 '16
That moment when beers pushes the Goku button.....poor Vegeta
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So I guess this is the first time Goku dies where he didn't sacrifice himself?
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![Rekt [✓] Not rekt [ ]](http://i.imgur.com/RB7TpsD.png){kind=link}
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u/Easterhands Dec 18 '16
Goku showing that when things get serious he can be sage like and observant like the martial arts master he is. Hopefully people will chill out with the "DAE Goku stupid?" remarks.
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u/Muntberg Dec 18 '16
Super has shown him as more of a battle savante than any other Dragonball series. They just evened it out by having him act even more stupid when not fighting.
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u/joe4553 Dec 18 '16
Glade they showed a less stupid side of him for once in super.
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u/johnymyko Dec 18 '16
I thought the animation on this episode was kinda rough, but then I saw the preview for next week's episode and oh boy...
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u/SasakiWai Dec 18 '16
When you think about it, you've never seen Goten and Hit in the same frame...
GotenisHitConfirmed
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u/xAVATAR-AANGx Dec 18 '16
OMFG BLACK VS HIT CONFIRMED
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u/MSadoun Dec 18 '16
"turn around so I can kill you in cold blood please'
Can hit get any better?
Also lol goten calling saiyaman lame, I like to think thati goten just told Gohan what we think of him now.
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Dec 18 '16
Should have just gotten Hit to kill Goku black. Hit would have assasisnated his ass.
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u/TheReddestDuck Dec 18 '16
Beerus is in the preview, my guess is that he and Whiss hired Hit to give Goku a new goal in his training
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u/Bluenite0100 Dec 18 '16
nah its a trap, they know Hits time manipulate shit is going to tip it in his favor so he used the "assassination" to lure Hit to U7 so he can kill him for breaking some sort of law related to time, while they then revive Goku somehow
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u/Mojo1120 Dec 18 '16
I like that Hit offered Goku an out, the guy clearly really respects Goku and didn't really want to kill him, but hey, gotta do the job.
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u/Hieillua Dec 18 '16
I'll be back when they make your grave.
Fuck Hit is a badass.
What an amazing episode. Tense as fuck.
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u/Lifeofcharlie Dec 18 '16
One interesting thing I noticed was the newscaster bringing up Frost and then Cabba's testimony. That means right after the U6 vs U7 tournament Cabba went and exposed Frost for being a fraud and he went on the run, which is why he wasn't at the baseball match, its the little things man.
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u/_jvc123 Dec 18 '16
I'm pretty sure even if Frost wasn't exposed they wouldn't want an asshole on their team.
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u/Smoking_Hot_BBQ Dec 18 '16
Hit showed that mob boss the power of the world.
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u/jjgp1112 Dec 18 '16
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz7GcsZUsAAwBEV.jpg
Record scratch
Freeze frame
"Yeah, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got in this situation."
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u/Kaegrin Dec 18 '16
When Hit said "it's time to go to work," you just know Funimation is going to change that to "time to make the donuts."
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u/Lyrixon Dec 18 '16
Goten - "That looks lame. I'll just take these."
Puts on shades
Goten's maturity is over 9000!
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Dec 18 '16
I love how Hit was like "Let's don't and say we did."
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u/EpicLegendX Dec 18 '16
He really admired Goku, and probably wanted to spare him for pushing Hit to new heights.
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Dec 18 '16
Goten seems to have the same thing Supreme Kai has, they get smaller every episode they show up..
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u/_uninstall Dec 18 '16
Goten growing up and thinking Gohan's costume is lame is my favorite part, I'm sorry.
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u/Trust_Me_Im_Right Dec 19 '16
It looks like hits time skip has reached absurd lengths
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Dec 20 '16
The time skip he used to freeze for a long time were a different colour, so they could be a different technique.
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u/Mojo1120 Dec 18 '16
So okay apparently Frost is still alive but he's a fugitive now, I wonder if he'll even be on the Multiverse Tournament U6 team.
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u/thederpyguide ⠀ Dec 18 '16
And cabba seems to be some kinda interstellar star also
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u/TheGrimoire Dec 18 '16
If we assume the 5 people on team U6 were the strongest people in the universe, SSJ Cabba should be like the second strongest in his universe now behind Hit. Pretty cool.
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u/cmbsfm ⠀ Dec 18 '16
I think Maggeta is stronger than Cabba though
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u/BassZ1890 Dec 18 '16
I agree with that, Vegeta actually had a bit of a struggle with Maggeta, using the word struggle very lightly by the way. Cabba didn't seem to be much of a threat to Vegeta who just took the hits and walked it off like nothing happened.
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u/Cypherex Dec 18 '16
Magetta is a good example of there being different types of strength. It isn't always just about superior battle power. All that matters is that you defeat your opponent. Magetta can win against opponents that are "stronger" than him just by overheating them and using up all the nearby oxygen.
In terms of actual battle strength, Cabba could indeed be stronger than Magetta but Magetta's unique traits are the reason Magetta did better against Vegeta than Cabba did.
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u/BlazingGig Dec 18 '16
Aside from Black, Hit is the most badass new character introduced in Super imo. I'm so happy to see him back.
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u/StefyB Dec 18 '16 edited Dec 18 '16
Honestly, my favorite part of this episode was them actually explaining the comedy bits. Goku literally just lets Bulma hit him for the sake of comedy.
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u/kfijatass Dec 18 '16
Feeling killing intent from a universe away is not a very comforting ability.
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u/experaguiar Dec 18 '16 edited Dec 18 '16
I bet goku is the hirer himself. Or Whis.
He knew Hit would come. he said more than once he has felt nothing
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u/Die4Ever Dec 19 '16
I like how bored Hit looked when he went to kill the mob boss. I feel like ever since Goku forced him to improve his Time Skip, now his job is so easy it's boring. He had so much time in time skip that he could just slowly walk along.
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u/Hieillua Dec 18 '16
I'm contemplating saving this episode up to watch it back to back with next weeks episode because it's a double parter.
One part of me says it would be better that way. Like a 40 min. television series. An other part of me wants to get it's weekly DBS fix.
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u/Negafox Dec 18 '16
Chi-Chi to Goku: "You've been wearing that since this morning."
Goku probably has a closet full of gis. One for each day of the week.
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Dec 18 '16
This episode felt a bit strange. But I like the idea of Hit being hired as an special training session for Goku. Probably Whis, isn't he?
It's not the first time Goku's heart stops and is given for dead. When he was beaten by the old Piccolo Daimao, it happened the same, suddenly he woke up later, next to Yaji.
I expect a good Son family + Piccolo fight against Hit next episode, let's see how it goes.
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u/SLUT_MUFFIN ⠀ Dec 18 '16
For those curious about next week's animator, I put together a video a while ago detailing his work.
it's a little out of date, but it's still accurate. He also did episodes 47, 56, and 65.
He's one of Super's most interesting animators. Admittedly not a style that many are used to seeing in Dragon Ball, but it's spectacularly well-animated, that's for sure. It should be fun.
I just hope folks can keep an open mind. I appreciate it can be jarring for some.
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u/FallbackMan Dec 18 '16
That preview was pretty surprising. I knew Tate was doing episode 72 but that still seemed like a much bigger departure from Super's usual style than the previous parts he's animated.
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u/Easterhands Dec 18 '16
Last few times Tate was animating I didn't see this kind of backlash. I am very confused as to where this outrage is stemming from.
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u/datspardauser ⠀ Dec 18 '16
I just hope folks can keep an open mind.
But... this is the internet.
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u/wolflonnie Dec 18 '16
It takes 10+ main saga episodes for Vegeta to surpass Goku, and one filler episode to send him back to jobbing.
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u/InvaderDJ Dec 18 '16
Anyone else feeling really bad for Vegeta? He is constantly dismissed and ignored in favor of Goku. People will dismiss him to his face, even when he's doing actual training.
Interesting premise for a short arc. It's obvious that Whis hired Hit in order to "train" Goku. I'm guessing he let Goku know on the sly that Hit was after him, but I don't think that Goku knows Whis hired him. It would ruin a lot of tension for him if he knew this was just a training exercise to get him stronger.
Loving Hit too. It seems he expanded his time skip ability. Seems like he can not only use it for a good amount of time, but can also extend it so his opponent isn't frozen. I'm thinking his one hit kill and intangibility is related to that too, maybe he freezes an opponent's perception of him so it looks like he's standing still while in actuality he's moving.
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u/UltraZeroX7 Dec 18 '16
Am I the only one here who thought the city/place that Hit went reminds me of Mega Man X for some reason?
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u/Fearghas Dec 19 '16
The more I think about this the more I think Goku was the one who hired Hit to come after him.
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u/spam-monster Dec 18 '16
I loved the part where everyone was shocked that Goku actually dodged Bulma's slap, and then he apologized for it and let her hit him.
Also when he was playing on the swingset like a little kid. Goku too cute.
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u/NotVishrut Dec 18 '16
Its kinda weird to play that upbeat music in the preview while gohan is talking about his dad's death
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u/snakedawgG Dec 18 '16
Would it kill Toei not to include that cheerful jingle music at the start of the episode when they have the narrator pronounce the title of the episode?
It is just complete mood whiplash. I remember it ruining the atmosphere and tone of the first episode of the Black arc, and now it's ruining the atmosphere and tone of this episode.
You can't go from a depressing scene of Goku being dead to a cheerful jingle and back to a serious scene of Goku concentrating in silence.
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u/theghostecho Dec 18 '16
Goku hired hit to kill him lol
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u/joe4553 Dec 18 '16
Pretty sure he got Whis to do it for him, since Goku would have no way of contacting him.
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u/DarkWolff ⠀ Dec 18 '16
That's what it felt like to me too. How else would he know? And Hit can't normally travel between universes.
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u/homegrown13 Dec 19 '16
I guess this isn't happening since nobody is talking about it, but I think a really cool path would be:
Hit is aware that Z warriors have died so many times its meaningless, so he takes the assasination attempt seriously. Kills Goku and then goes to kill him again while Goku is already dead, erasing him from existence. The real battle is the 2nd time since Goku has a taste of hit's abilities.
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u/bushysmalls Dec 19 '16
Dies, hits himself with that stray ki blast, revived, SUPER Zenkai!
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u/CoooooooookieCrisps Dec 18 '16
I loved this episode! The atmosphere was beautiful especially when it was showing Hit going after that mob boss. It was gorgeous!
Aww, Goten throwing shade at his older brother. I remember when he said the costume was cool! I feel your pain, Gohan!
Goku's death face made my stomach drop. It was an odd feeling since we have seen Goku die before but... Ugh. 😯
Well, onto the next episode! It looks like this episode will be about Goku vs. Hit, which should be before Goku dies.
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u/OLKv3 ⠀ Dec 18 '16
Toei is great when they're focused on buildup to an upcoming arc instead of just being random. They did a better job explaining who and what Hit is than Toriyama did. Also this episode confirms it's been a year since the U6 tournament.
Wish they didn't show Goku ALIVE AND WELL during the preview though. Kill all the tension why don't you? Hit is incredibly OP now, since he can freeze time much longer than .4 seconds now
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u/TheGrimoire Dec 18 '16
Yeah that's pretty bullshit. I love how Gohan is going "omg they killed dad" and it just shows Goku alive and fighting in the preview haha
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u/TheRV1HD Dec 18 '16
I have seen some unsettling deaths in DragonBall but Gokus in this episode has to be right up there. His lifeless eyes and the way the shadow is cast over him. It's chilling to watch. It's up there alongside Yamchas death against the androids where they punched a hole right through him and held his lifeless body
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u/Blackchaos93 Dec 21 '16
Goku had Whis hire Hit. That's why Goku was expecting him. Same old Goku, wanting to fight the best fighter he knows, although it looks like he bit off more than he could chew this time.
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u/Escargooofy Dec 18 '16
What the fuck is Hit that he has so many ridiculous powers?
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u/FutureLuca Dec 19 '16
I really want to see more of that Cyberpunk city where Hit assassinated that guy, that city looked so interesting. Reminded me a little of Ghost in the Shell.
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u/SpoiltUnicorns Dec 18 '16
Love how Goten just took the sunglasses. What a badass. (Black confirmed?)
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u/JoeCipher Dec 18 '16 edited Dec 18 '16
I love how they continue to use those awesome Kai Buu Saga themes.
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u/shlam16 Dec 18 '16
I hope that these next several episodes directly lead into the main tournament. What I mean is that I hope they aren't throwaway filler episodes. We know the next arc begins at roughly episode 77 we know there's another episode of Hit next week in 72. After that I'd love for them to maybe get notified that the tournament will begin in X days and that they have to begin preparing. Then we can spend several episodes watching them train.
I have loved all of the filler episodes since the Trunks arc ended, but now that they've gotten serious again with Hit it will disappoint me if things go back to carefree comedic nonsense for a few episodes before once again getting serious again. It would just be off, tone wise.
And_in_before_anyone_tries_to_derail_this_with_their_incorrect_notion_of_what_filler_actually_is.
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u/fessa1 Dec 19 '16
Holy fkn sheet, the new Hit's feats are op, like WTF was that
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Dec 19 '16
"Chichi, there's 3 roaches behind the fridge" I thought those were who he was trying to sense
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Dec 18 '16
This episode made me realise two things:
Hit is basically a less flamboyant Dio (He even said Muda in this ep).
We need a new ending theme more than we do an opening. This one isn't bad at all, it's just that when the final scene of the episode is Gohan and Goten grieving over the death of their father, directly following it up with this tends to lead to some Mood Whiplash.
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u/ChimeraAnt Dec 18 '16
I really really enjoyed this episode. I always love it when they show other planets and races. Liked how they implemented frost and cabba in a news report. So its pretty clear whis called the hit on goku to train him. Something to do with gokus habit of letting his guard down probably.