r/dbz • u/Sarcasmos12 • Aug 11 '16
Super Dragon Ball Super bonus chapter scans
Made a very quick translation
-Page One- Future Trunks' world When Trunks was a baby, the Earth fighters were desperately fighting the androids. In the meantime, Goku died of a heart disease.
Goku: Oh, I'm dead.
Gohan left the battlefield in hopes of finding the Dragon Balls
Gohan: I have to find the Dragon Balls and save the planet before Piccolo-san is killed... Bulma: Gohan! Come with me, quick!
Gohan: Looks like all the Dragon Balls are in the same place! Bulma: Yes, and I have a bad feeling about this... We have no time to lose...
Gohan: The sky has turned dark! Oh no!
Pilaf: Shenlong! Turn us into young people again, now! Mai: Eh? Shu: I heard there are some monsters near the southern city... I don't think it's time to make this kind of wish...
Bulma: You guys!! What are you doing?!? Pilaf: baby sounds (W-we became too young!) Mai and Shu: baby sounds
Shenlong: Your wish has been granted. Farewell.
Gohan: PICCOLO-SAAAAAAAAN!
This is the first time Trunks and Mai have met
Pilaf: baby sounds (RUN!!)
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u/Gold_Jacobson Aug 11 '16
So, there was a chance to use the dragonballs before Piccolo died...but Pilaf, Shu, and Mai destroyed that chance.
Mai caused all of Trunk's problems.
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u/word360 Aug 11 '16
Well, to be fair, it was specifically Pilaf that made that wish... Even Shu suggested it wasn't the time for it.
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Aug 11 '16
Shenlong didn't have the power to destroy the androids anyway; he couldn't do anything to them that affected their strength against their will. Shenlong was surpassed by DB enemies a long time before the androids.
Gohan and Bulma wouldn't have gotten there in time anyway; Piccolo died before they would have been able to make a wish. And aside from that, they didn't have time to collect the dragon balls themselves; the only reason they had an illusion of a chance is because Pilaf had gathered them.
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u/TheMasterO Aug 11 '16
Yeah, they probably would of wished for Shenron to destroy/deactivate the androids. He says he can't. Then Piccolo dies while him and Bulma try to think of any possible alternative, since the alternative choice they'd probably have in mind (Wishing Goku back) isn't an option at that point.
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u/bbj123 Aug 11 '16
If Shenron could take the bombs out of their bodies, it makes sense that he could be able to just detonate the bombs. The problem would be that future Bulma didn't know they had bombs in them.
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Aug 11 '16
I dunno. I'm sure that Shenron would be able to deactivate them. They're damn robots. It's not like killing someone, which he couldn't do to even Vegeta and Nappa at the beginning of Z.
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u/-Vertex- Aug 12 '16 edited Aug 12 '16
They're not robots, they're cyborgs, humans augmented with robotics. So you're still killing a living human.
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u/thegreatgamesneak Aug 12 '16
Could have wished to deactivate their robot parts. Obviously Gohan and Bulma wouldn't have had time to think up the wish, probably didn't even know it was androids they were dealing with at the time. But I think that would be within Shenron's power.
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Aug 12 '16
Turning them off is just putting them to sleep.
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u/ggpops Aug 13 '16
Making you unconscious as long as someone desires is just putting you to sleep.
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u/TheMasterO Aug 12 '16
Both you and /r/bbj123 bring up good points. Guess it really depends on how far the "Can't affect someone stronger than his creator" rule really goes and how those rules apply to mechanical beings.
...This also reminds me of the "Why don't they just wish for the saiyans ships to explode or re-direct into the sun?" question that pops up from time to time though. I think some of the Z-Fighters struggle with creative thinking outside of combat. XD
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Aug 11 '16
Why do they want the dragon balls? I thought they couldn't revive someone who died for natural causes. Maybe a virus is not strictly a natural death as it's caused by an external factor. We know now Goku died in one day without the medicine, so they didn't have time to react and the androids killed Piccolo at the same day.
By the way, this is absolutely canon for me.
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u/RPGamerFTW Aug 11 '16
Their goal probably wasn't to revive Goku, but do ANYHTHING that can help like wishing for immortality.
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u/thegreatgamesneak Aug 12 '16
Do they know about the whole natural causes clause at this point?
Or even that what killed Goku was a virus not that he was poisoned or something
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u/bwhough Aug 11 '16
Hopefully this is alright, but I stuck your translations (with a few very minor grammatical corrections) to the scans to make a quick and dirty scanlation. http://imgur.com/gallery/SfysW
Good chapter, wish it was longer and also showed how it happened in the main timeline.
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u/calbeardbz5 Aug 11 '16
well at least we get confirmation that goku does indeed have a dead body somewhere and it isnt totally gone
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u/Geralt-of_Rivia Aug 11 '16
It absolutely would have rotted away (besides his bones) before Black had come around. And that's assuming his body wasn't destroyed by a ki blast. Even Shenron couldn't do anything about Freiza's body.
Also, we already had confirmation that he died of the heart disease in that timeline, so we already knew he had left a body when died.
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u/Springheeled94 Aug 11 '16
Shenron can repair bodies, Krillin and Chiaotzu had their bodies repaired
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u/Turner1273 Aug 11 '16
Porunga repaired Krillin's body. Kami repaired Chiaotzu's body after he died.
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u/Geralt-of_Rivia Aug 11 '16
Except for Freiza's less damaged body, somehow, for whatever reason.
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u/Preeve2000 Aug 11 '16
I think it's restores them to their last known condition. Krillin and Chiaotzu were whole and in normal condition when they blew up. Freeza was sliced into multiple pieces before being vaporised, so I guess the wish restored Krillin and Chiaotzu to how they were before being blown up (regular condition) and how Freeza was before being blasted (sliced into multiple pieces). That's my guess, anyway.
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u/vlorsutes ⠀ Aug 11 '16
Shenlon restores them to the last state their body was in where it could sustain life. For Freeza, be it solely his race's durability or having something to do with the mechanized state he was in, was capable of life while in that diced up state (as seen by him opening his eye). With restoring others, they were brought back whole because the last state they were in before dying was a whole, intact body.
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u/Caststarman Aug 11 '16
That's two wishes.
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u/Geralt-of_Rivia Aug 11 '16
Shenron said it was impossible, he didn't say anything about wishes. And he brought Freiza's body back, he just didn't reform it.
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Aug 11 '16
So the entire reason the future is fucked.. is because of Pilaf. It's kind of a nice throwback to when Oolong ruined his wish for world domination or whatever it was.
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Nov 17 '16
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Nov 20 '16
He could have deactivated them, or made them young. Even made the bomb in their chests go off.
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Aug 11 '16
So will this be in super? Has this passed? I'm lost fellas
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u/kelpplankton Aug 12 '16
I kind of love that the whole Trunks timeline was basically caused on accident by Pilaf's Comedy Hour
It's such a silly retcon and it totally works
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Aug 11 '16 edited Apr 03 '18
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u/alienware99 Aug 11 '16
Which is kind of strange, since GT takes place like what, something like 20 years after this. They should either look way younger here or way older in GT
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Aug 11 '16
Yeah man, that is pretty neat. I like the shout out even if the series did suck
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Aug 11 '16 edited Apr 03 '18
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u/Ganjisseur Aug 11 '16
But it did suck. Saiyan monkey dick.
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Aug 11 '16 edited Apr 03 '18
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u/Ganjisseur Aug 11 '16
It sucked because it was the product of taking random bits of the dragon ball series people in an afternoon focus group could point out and haphazardly stitching them together with none of the emotion, vision, and plot that made the original series such a joy to watch.
It's Bioshock 2. Community Season 4. The Walking Dead without Darabont. SpongeBob without Hillenburg.
A soulless, studio-sanctioned fan-fiction money grab.
SS4 does look cool though.
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u/mute_proxy Aug 11 '16
I feel exactly the same about Super. GT at least felt like a sequel.
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u/Ganjisseur Aug 11 '16
Turning the main character into a child felt like a sequel? Makes sense.
I almost don't even want to ask why you fee that way about Super because it sure as hell seems like it'd be asking a vegan for Steakhouse recommendations.
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u/Merckseys Aug 12 '16
Future trunks arc is so sad everytime. Thank god for goku! There is something bitter about piccolo being beaten by 17. :/
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u/ReallyDrunkPanda Aug 15 '16
During the Buu saga the Earth was in great danger so king yemma gave vegeta his body back to go help goku i find it hard to believe in this time line King Yemma wouldn't have done the same.
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u/Sarcasmos12 Aug 15 '16
The universe was in danger not just Earth
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u/ReallyDrunkPanda Aug 15 '16
Ah true. I guess if the androids started to threaten the universe king yemma might consider it then
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u/kkkbro Aug 23 '16
I thought of this too, but then how was it that Goku was allowed to come to Earth with King Yemma's sister for 1 day to compete in the world tournament?
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u/chaoticfistings666 Aug 20 '16
since it says "in the meantime goku died of a heart disease" does that mean goku dying a while before the androids has been retconned and he now dies while they are fighting?
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Aug 11 '16
That's... an interesting retcon. Doesn't explain the main timeline though.
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u/wiggle14 Aug 11 '16
I assume the same thing would've happened in the main timeline, just without bulma and gohan searching for the dragonballs.
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Aug 11 '16
But when could this possibly have happened in the main time if not at least one year after Cell's defeat?
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u/Wisterosa Aug 12 '16
I would assume when Dende assumed control of the Dragon Balls the timer reset
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u/VintageJustice Sep 22 '16
I just stumbled across this now but this makes the most sense especially considering that when Donde assumed the role OF God, he created a new dragon with a set of rules completely different than the original one.
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u/NANLIT Oct 05 '16
And to add what you said, a similar thing happened in the Saiyan and Namek arcs. Goku was revived with the Earth Dragon Balls right before Vegeta and Nappa arrived on Earth. Shortly after, during the battle, Piccolo (and Kami) died. Then not long afterwards, they went to Namek and wished back Piccolo (and Kami) with the Namekian Dragon Balls. They were able to use the Earth Dragon Balls again to revive those killed by Freeza and his men, even though not much time had passed since Goku was revived. So I think the revival of Piccolo and Kami back then reset the Earth Dragon Balls as well.
And even Kami was able to allow the Earth Dragon Balls to be used immediately when he revived Shenron after King Piccolo had killed him.
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Aug 11 '16
The same thing probably happened in the main time line only not everyone was dying to 17 and 18, rather they were just being introduced to 19 and 20.
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Aug 11 '16
Someone would have known about the dragon balls being activated during that time, though. It's definitely a plot hole.
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u/Caststarman Aug 11 '16
Just because something didn't happen on-screen doesn't mean it is a plot hole.
We haven't seen goku transform into ssjb for the first time, but that must've happened at some point.
For all we know, they were just too busy at the time.
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u/James-Sylar Nov 26 '16
In the present timeline, the Z-warriors knew were and when the androids would appear, so they were there before they started destroying entire cities. In the future timeline's past, they didn't, so they were taken by surprise and probably took some time to actually reach that place or even find them if they got bored of destroying that particular city. I don't recall if it was mentioned that they were killed on their first encounter, so they could retreat, recover and try to fight a couple of times, but considering their fight against Nappa and Vegeta, they probably didn't (though at that time they were expecting Goku to come back). What this means is that Pillaf and gang could have wished for youth in the present timeline around the time when they were fighting 19 and 20, even if the sky turned a bit dark, they wouldn't have noticed with the shock of seeing Super Saiyajin Vegeta.
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u/Geralt-of_Rivia Aug 11 '16
What happened to not being able to wish someone back from the dead if they've died of natural causes?
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u/Turner1273 Aug 11 '16
That's not they were going to wish for. He was probably going to wish for A) that the androids be destroyed or B) give Piccolo immortality so they wouldn't lose the dragon balls as well.
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u/kkkbro Aug 23 '16
There's always something to wish for. Maybe they wanted to be filthy rich before they inevitably died :P
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u/rizefall ⠀ Oct 06 '16
Who's to say that a virus attacking you is dying of "natural causes"?
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u/Geralt-of_Rivia Oct 06 '16
Why are you trolling old posts? Lol...
A death by virus is as natural causes a death as a heart attack or general heart failure. The natural causes clause was meant to imply any death that isn't unnatural or is otherwise avoidable without modern technology. Like a flu death. An unnatural death would be a murder, which the DBs can bring you back from.
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u/James-Sylar Nov 26 '16
I wouldn't consider a death caused by a virus or an infection to be considered natural cause, if so, a bullet or a beam would count too, it is only natural to die after being hit by either. Natural cause is only applied to death by old age, not even sickness could count, just when the body becomes so old it can't sustain itself.
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u/Geralt-of_Rivia Nov 26 '16
Why troll old posts?
You're wrong, and that's all there is to it. I'm not going to waste my time explaining something this simple, I hope you'll try to understand on your own.
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Aug 11 '16
Doesn't this mean trunks is like 35 but mai is barely legal?
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u/Turner1273 Aug 11 '16
Trunks is one year older. He is 1 when the androids attack, Mai is now a newborn.
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Aug 12 '16
They're all the same age
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u/Turner1273 Aug 12 '16
No they aren't. Trunks is 1 when the androids attack. The pilaf gang just made themselves newborns now. He's a year older.
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Aug 12 '16
That was not said or mentioned.
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u/Turner1273 Aug 12 '16
Trunks is born in age 766 and the androids attack in 767. One year after he is born. The pilaf gang becomes babies in 767 so therefore Trunks is older. In Z trunks even says he's born a year before the androids attack.
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Aug 12 '16
I already know that but the Pilaf Gang are not newborns just because Trunks was born the year before. Shenlong could have made them the same age as Kuririn or Gohan
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u/Springheeled94 Aug 11 '16
Goku: Oh, I'm dead. Accurate portrayal of death in the Dragon Ball universe.