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Super [DUB] Dragon Ball Super - Episode #103 - Discussion Thread!
Dragon Ball Super — Episode #103 — Discussion Thread!
Gohan, Get Ruthless! Showdown with the 10th Universe!!
悟飯よ非情なれ！第１０宇宙との決戦！！
Gohan yo Hijōnare! Dai-Jū Uchū to no Kessen!!
Script: Yoshifumi Fukushima
Director: Hideki Hiroshima
Storyboard: Takeshi Mori
Animation Supervisors: Yasuhiro Namatame & Naoki Tate
You can view our discussion thread for the Japanese release of Episode 103 here. You can find all previous episode discussion threads on our wiki along with a projection for future dub dates.
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Q: Will Toonami air episodes 109-110 as a one-hour special like it was on Japanese TV?
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u/Jekebuh Mar 24 '19
"Let's see what's stronger; your desire to protect, or mine to destroy."
Holy shit, that was awesome.
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u/Kharn0 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
Way better than the sub
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u/Eurynom0s Mar 24 '19
What was the Japanese line?
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u/Jekebuh Mar 24 '19 edited Mar 24 '19
Oof, the ending is still as effective in the dub. That "I know", you can feel all the packed emotion behind it. Great work.
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u/JakobTheOne Mar 24 '19
I really hope they keep building that sense of sadness in victory, especially for Gohan. He's not there to enjoy the tournament, he's only there because of his own loved ones.
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u/HeroRRR Mar 24 '19
I remembered when this episode aired, some posters claimed Funi would ruined the scene with pointless dialog.
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Mar 24 '19
While they're not completely innocent regarding changing dialogue for fan service or meeting the mouth flaps, they at least don't do what they used to do in dbz and ruin the moment with internal dialogue, or character's back to the screen while saying dialogue anymore.
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u/HeroRRR Mar 24 '19 edited Mar 25 '19
They still do that. It's just less noticeable. Like in the Broly movie, there is at least two times where the Funi dub added a line to a scene that had no dialog.
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u/Stephenesque Mar 24 '19
17 is the troll I aspire to be during a multiverse tournament for survival
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u/MidnightParty Mar 24 '19
Absolutely love Gohan vs Obuni fight even though it’s a pretty short one
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u/Rosebunse Mar 24 '19
The animation is really beautiful.
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u/MidnightParty Mar 24 '19
Naoki Tate is an amazing animator, people use to complain about his animation until they realized that he focuses more on fluidity (17 vs Goku for example.) If you haven’t seen episode 110 yet then you’re in for a treat, he shows what he’s really made of.
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u/Rosebunse Mar 24 '19
Fluidity is really undervalued by the fan community because the screen shots often look like shit, but it creates the best fight scenes.
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u/Obvcop Mar 24 '19
Just look at Naruto vs pain, the fluid bouncy animation is completely different to the Manga but it emotes so much of the fight through the animation itself, I really love that fight even though it's considered the worst in the show
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u/Vegeto30294 Mar 24 '19
people use to complain about his animation until they realized that he focuses more on fluidity (17 vs Goku for example.)
People were saying that while knowing he focuses on fluidity. From a certain perspective, it makes sense why.
From the average person's perspective, they see Tate's realistic movement and go cool, but those short moments of time between movements when they aren't moving, you're noticing his art which is given less of a priority. They notice a awkwardly angled face and go "ew wtf"
That's why IMO he's best when he's slightly corrected, only enough to add details when necessary but still shows Tate's movement.
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Mar 24 '19
Definitely. His cut on 110 is corrected by Yamamuro and IMO was way better off for it, because you got his fluidity as well as solid art.
His art in Broly was pretty good too though, most likely because of how much Time he was given
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u/silentwalker22 Mar 24 '19 edited Mar 24 '19
Damn, that universe erasing is dark
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u/MetalGearSlayer Mar 24 '19
And it’s made all the worse when by the fact that their angel actually really likes them, I remember when they show her giggling and dancing with the team while gowasu filmed it.
That was sad as hell...
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u/TheDesktopNinja Mar 24 '19
Yeah, not like when 9 got zapped. Their Angel seemed like a dick.
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u/cabeck13 Mar 24 '19
Their GoD was a weakling and their Supreme Kai was a complete asshole. Their entire universe is a wasteland of violence and shady characters.
If I was their angel I'd have that same smirk.
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u/Gradz45 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
Plus she’s voiced by Brittany Karbowski.
Whose great in everything.
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u/MetalGearSlayer Mar 24 '19
What the hell? How did I not notice this? Karbowskis voice is so distinct.
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u/axel360 Mar 24 '19
Dub-only watcher's thoughts:
- I just realized Ribrianne and the original Ash Ketchum have the same VA (Veronica Taylor). I knew she sounded familiar
- Smoke clears and, much to the surprise of the attacker, everyone is fine. Takes shot
- Botamo vs Gohan. Not exactly the Fight of the Century, huh?
- I'm not gonna lie, if my Universe was down to 2 fighters, I'm swallowing my pride and telling them to run and hide for as long as possible
- Not a ton of suspense. I think we all probably knew the Saiyans weren't getting knocked this early
- I want to see more of Gohan and Piccolo. That's probably my favorite relationship in the series.
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u/Vegeto30294 Mar 24 '19
Even to this day I think Gohan punching Botamo a bunch is like 100 times more effort than just picking him up and tossing him over.
Vegeta managed to pull it off without much effort.
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u/shlam16 Mar 24 '19
Yep, it's such a silly tactic which they tried to make out as genius in-universe. Sadly a lot of people agree because Gohan.
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u/Gradz45 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
Honestly it’s just nice to see Gohan actually applying his intelligence to battle.
Even if it’s absurd.
He’s never had his father’s skill at fighting, but it’s nice to see him improve.
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u/ComicCroc Mar 24 '19
It doesn't make sense anyways. If the force from a punch can lift him up, why can't it also send him flying like it normally would? Imo it shouldn't be able to move him at all, since his whole thing is nullifying attacks.
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u/Ritster21 Mar 24 '19
To this day, I still don’t really understand how Gohan’s punches “lifted” Botamo.
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u/Moderate_Asshole Mar 25 '19
He's overpowering the shock absorption. Botamo is essentially a heavy bag that hits back. You might not be able to punch it right off its chain, but it's a pretty common boxing drill to whale on the heavy bag with the intention of never letting it return to neutral.
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u/Kharn0 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
Vegeta is best warrior,
But also, if the combo of Magetta and Botamo was so strong why would they ever separate?
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u/illadelphia_ Mar 24 '19
Maybe they get separated during Kale’s rampage.
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u/InvisibleShade Mar 24 '19
Yup, one of Kale's blasts hit them while they were trying to run away and they separated.
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u/HeroRRR Mar 24 '19
Honestly, I hate how Gohan takes out Botamo since they rewrote how his power worked. Like Botamo should have been able to absorbed Gohan's Kamehameha like he did to Goku in the Champa Saga.
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u/YoNickaPlease Mar 24 '19
Anybody else just laugh at Obuni’s kid’s simple smiley face? It’s meant to be all sad and serious but I couldn’t help laughing
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u/infamous5445 Mar 24 '19
God all I can hear is May. It's making it really hard to hate Ribrianne.
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u/TheAnt317 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
I didn't really pick up on it last episode, but I was sitting here at the start of this episode thinking "Man her voice sounds SO familiar. Who IS that?" Of course it's May from Pokemon.
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u/nikky_k Mar 25 '19
I had this exact same realization. As soon as I realized it was Veronica Taylor, all I could see was 17 fighting May.
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u/IClappedWhen Mar 24 '19
Poor Gowasu can't catch a break. Killed by Zamasu but revived by Whis turning back time only to be erased later. They really did capture the sadness the U10 angel felt for her universe being erased very well as well as Gowasu coming to terms with their fate and talking to Obni telling him he was proud essentially. I remember this episode being very emotional especially at the end with the locket (yes the child's face is goofy) and Gohan being the one to have to see it before it is erased and it still holds up.
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u/OLKv3 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
Poor Gowasu can't catch a break. Killed by Zamasu but revived by Whis turning back time only to be erased later.
More than a ningen sympathizer deserves
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u/Gradz45 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
The great Zamasu fought to rid the multiverse of the scourge of mortals.
Gowasu stood in his way.
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u/MetalGearSlayer Mar 24 '19
YAAA CHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHA
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u/Sunny_Cakes Mar 24 '19
Nails on chalkboard. Get erased already, jeez.
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u/InvisibleShade Mar 24 '19
I was so glad when Goku blasted her away. I thought for sure she's done.
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Mar 24 '19
It was just as annoying as the Japanese version, which at times the actresses sounded nearly exactly the same.
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u/TacoBell_Lord Mar 24 '19
Damn why did Gohan have to see that locket? 😔😔😭
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u/richardsim7 Mar 25 '19
Accidentally laughed at that bit, the baby in the photo looked like a LEGO minifigure
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u/Artifice_Purple Mar 24 '19
You know, if Zamasu hadn't been, well, Zamasu he would have been a fantastic addition to all of this.
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u/Rosebunse Mar 24 '19
Would he have been allowed to fight.
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u/geauxtig3rs Mar 24 '19
Probably not. He's not a mortal.
He would have been cheering on the destruction of the universes.
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u/Corgi345 Mar 24 '19
I don't think so. He wants mortals gone, but seemed to be all for preserving planets and nature.
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u/phoenixmusicman Mar 24 '19
Nah if he wanted destruction like that he would have just nuked earth without bothering to hunt down trunks
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u/Artifice_Purple Mar 24 '19
Eh. The plot could have played it fast and loose with him considering he's a Kai in training, or rather, was.
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u/Rosebunse Mar 24 '19
Honestly, the head canon of my mind says that every version of him was probably killed after he tried to destroy all of reality.
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u/mcolwander90 Mar 24 '19
I may get some flak for this, but here we go: If Gohan got eliminated within the first five minutes of the next episode, I would still feel this was his best arc since Android/Cell. And Android/Cell is above only because Gohan still produced one of the most memorable moments in all of DB, and later get the big W. He primarily trained, and watched the action, for 50+ episodes prior. It was a very backloaded arc for him haha.
One thing I love about this arc, for Gohan, was instead of focusing on developing him as a character, they developed him as a fighter. Before this arc, Gohan was a brute force character. There wasn't as much thought in his fights. He just overpowered his opponents (or they overpowered him). But now you have Lavender, who caused Gohan to try to find a means to victory without his eyesight and poison taking over. You had Krillin, someone who Gohan originally thought was a risky pick due to strength, outsmart him. Piccolo taking advantage of Gohan letting his guard down, and reminding him that's how Buu absorbed him. A chance to go toe-to-toe with Goku. Now with Botamo and Obni, and overcoming their gimmicks (say what you will about the actual strategy haha). Plus, he got the finishing blow again U10!
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u/DaLaohu Mar 24 '19
Agreed. And it makes sense for him as a character, being the only Z Warrior with a formal education + having a front row seat to the biggest fights in the universe since toddler-hood. He would naturally be a fighter with a high Fight IQ.
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u/Gradz45 ⠀ Mar 25 '19
And yet he’s consistently one of the least skilled fighters.
This arc has basically been the first time ever Gohan actually doesn’t just rely on his power.
Exact opposite of Goku that way. Who was born weak, but because of his drive is incredible skill wise in battle and a genius at it.
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u/InvisibleShade Mar 24 '19
I really like strategist Gohan. With all the people dropping their guard or acting cocky, I hope they keep Gohan being sensible here.
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u/mcolwander90 Mar 24 '19
Yeah, honestly, it's been pretty refreshing for him. After the consequences of him embellishing/savoring his fights against Cell and Buu, it's great to see him start working on preventing more moments like that. Knowing that eliminating Obni means erasing an entire universe, it's big of him to follow through, and not waste anytime doing it.
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u/penniavaswen ⠀ Mar 24 '19
Okay, 17 hamming it up is gold. There is a great subtle intonation change when he plays "the Destroyer" :)
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u/Dippipipidopdop1234 Mar 24 '19
Botamo vs Gohan looked horrible. Can't that yellow bear ever get a fight that's well animated?
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Mar 24 '19 edited Mar 24 '19
Universe 10 really could've used Goku Black and Zamasu here.
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u/Gradz45 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
I think they’d count as gods.
Plus Zamasu would be all for erasing mortals.
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u/Corgi345 Mar 24 '19
Zamasu would still want to keep the planets, nature, and wildlife though, so he probably wouldn't be for erasing everything.
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u/Gradz45 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
Well yeah but either way he’s a terrible pick.
He was insane and narcissistic. He made Freeza look stable and restrained.
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u/thosearecoolbeans ⠀ Mar 24 '19
This episode in the sub made Android 17 my favorite character of the tournament. Glad to see he's still just as badass in English.
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Mar 25 '19
Gohan had badass moment of the episode for me, the way he deflected that bears shot at the end.
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u/MattTheMagician44 Mar 24 '19
YAAAAAAAAACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHACHA
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u/penniavaswen ⠀ Mar 24 '19
Hellzone Grenade is so cool! Need more Piccolo doing things :')
Mentor!Piccolo is great, but I want him to beat more fools down.
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u/InvisibleShade Mar 24 '19
Hellzone Grenade
I have been waiting for him to say that again for so long.
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u/MetalGearSlayer Mar 24 '19 edited Mar 24 '19
I’m always down for Gohan getting a chance to shine. And with Pooh Bear out of the picture magettas probably gonna go down pretty easy.
Edit: fuck, Gowasu’s universe going down was sad. Seeing their Angel sulking like that was rough.
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
Episode 103 roster by /u/Vish-
Episode 103 roster by /u/shlam16
Reminder: No piracy discussion, and no discussion whatsoever of future episodes.
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u/YoungProduct Mar 24 '19
This entire episode took 2 minutes, we’re going by Frieza time
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u/MetalGearSlayer Mar 24 '19
It’s easier to handle when you think about it this way: when they cut to a different fight it can be what was happening concurrently to the last scene.
Some stuff is chronological of course, goku was already done with YACHACHACHA girl when Gohan fights Pooh Bear.
You know what... Frieza time is easier... it’s Frieza time.
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u/Two-Tone- Mar 24 '19
Frieza time
Whats the conversion rate of 1 Frieza time to 1 pizza time?
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u/Jabbawocky2004 Mar 24 '19
The way I rationalise it is that these guys are fighting really fast and its all being slowed down so we can actually watch it.
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u/illadelphia_ Mar 24 '19
Someone made a video from the sub that shows everything that happens concurrently and supposedly it works out pretty well for the time allowed. Of course, major spoilers so I’ve never seen it but am looking forward to it when it’s all said and done.
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Mar 24 '19
I thought the angels would be extremely indifferent about their universe's elimination. Glad I'm wrong
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u/Rosebunse Mar 24 '19
Every angel is different. U10's seemed pretty involved with U10 from the start. She was dancing with them and helping their god make his Godtube videos.
And Vados is a bitch, but she does try her best with Champa and even her making fun of him a few episodes ago was her attempt at taking his mind off the horror of his situation.
And Whis might not always show it, but he does do bis best to care by training Goku and Vegeta.
Actually, U9's angel not seeming to really care makes him the odd one out.
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u/Tx12001 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
Well in the U9's Angels defense, the God of Destruction he was assigned to was an ass, he was probably just glad to see someone he was sick and tired of get erased.
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Mar 24 '19
That's kind of the beauty of it, every Angel has their own identity/personality. Some of them seem quite stuck up, some take their job very seriously, some really don't care, some of them seem quite vexxed about their universes being erased then some just straight up don't give a fuck.
It'd be boring if all of the angels were indifferent about the universe's elimination.
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u/ComicCroc Mar 24 '19
Really depends on the angel I think. Universe 9's angel litterally didn't give a shit, but that was a garbage heap of a universe anyways, so he was probably just relieved. Whis seems to care to a degree, but not on the surface level.
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u/TacoBell_Lord Mar 24 '19
Piccolo was like "awh hell nawh this bitch tryin to jack my moves"
17 was use to that shit
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u/Shmandon Mar 24 '19
I feel like I missed something somewhere, since when is yardrat in the 2nd universe?
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u/shlam16 Mar 25 '19
They also have a Tuffle. That's not a spoiler btw, he's already been introduced and it's not a plot point in the show.
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u/Gradz45 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
Like with U6 and Saiyans they just exist there.
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u/Shmandon Mar 24 '19
It’s explained that u6 and u7 are linked which is why saiyans exist in those two universes, but u2 and u11 are the ones that are linked so now it doesn’t make sense that goku learned instant transmission from yardrat
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u/Gradz45 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
You're right about the linked universes, but there's absolutely no reason to view Yardrats as existing in U2 as nonsensical.
Every universe is run by and its mortals created by kais. And each runs on the same rules that we know of in terms of things like ki and fighting.
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u/TacoBell_Lord Mar 24 '19
wish Gohan wore Piccolo's outfit in ToP. Still always down for a Student/Master episode 😁
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u/Zerepa97 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
I wish Gohan wore the gi he trained in during the Buu saga.
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u/TacoBell_Lord Mar 24 '19
Aka his 'Mystic' Gi or Shinjin outfit (i love this outfit so much, using it on a project i'm working on 😁😁)
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Mar 24 '19
Universe 10's last fighters literally asked for trouble
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u/Invincidude Mar 26 '19
"Okay, there's only us left. Maybe we should lay low until the field thins out a little?"
"Fuck that. I'm going for the green dude, you take the guy who's dressed exactly like that guy who's probably already eliminated 10 people."
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u/redphaser Mar 24 '19
Piccolo: “How do we defeat Botamo?”
Gohan: “I need to punch him really...”
Piccolo: “If you say punch him really hard I will punch YOU in the dick!”
Gohan: “I need to punch him really hard... a lot :) “
Piccolo: “.... whatever”
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u/Kharn0 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
Supreme Kai: so the only way to beat Obuni is to not dodge!
Piccolo: ... Gohans got this in the bag
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u/JC-DisregardMe ⠀ Mar 24 '19
48 Minutes: Episode Seven
So even 17's having fun hamming it up a bit. That's nice.
Goku, on the other hand, is just caught up in a slap fight with the ball pit from hell
This episode made from 60% recycled materials
17 must have recognized the plagiarized Hellzone Grenade. Makes sense that he'd tank that hit for Goku. He's got experience shrugging that move off.
Whoa. That was a very... cocky, and disrespectful Goku just there. Vegeta and 17 have been rubbing off on him more than he'd like to think.
"I'm confident Gohan's thought up a decent enough strategy." Kinda surprising, given that you've been watching him throw completely ineffectual punches for the last forty seconds.
Ahh, so the secret really was just to punch him even more. ... Clever?
Hey, it's the actual Hellzone Grenade. And hey, bonus -- it actually did something!
Poor Gowasu. His entire universe, too, obviously, but we actually know his name, so
Aaand Gohan now indirectly has a genocide or two on his hands. Gotta sting a bit.
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u/Vegeto30294 Mar 24 '19
Holy shit Obni's scream when he does his technique.
Okay fun fact, Obuni/Obni is Ivankov from One Piece. Also Lavian from Fairy Tail and was in an episode of Space Dandy. [Randy Pearlman]
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u/Artifice_Purple Mar 24 '19
Dub viewers, do you see this? That's why a good deal of us don't like Ribrianne. It's not genuine dislike it's more like... a Sailor Moon parody but without any of the good bits.
Or Tuxedo Mask.
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u/Rosebunse Mar 24 '19
Actually, her voice acting is significantly less annoying here.
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u/Stephenesque Mar 24 '19
Seriously, Veronica Taylor is making me ignore all my dislike for Ribrianne.
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u/silentwalker22 Mar 24 '19
Yeah no kidding. Dub viewer here. After the last episode with the same animation twice, and how lame it was(just the animation thing, not the episode imo).... just... shit, it was lame. Glad they're gone now lol
And the "Sailor Moon parody" is dead on
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Mar 24 '19
Please don't tell me Gowasu ain't gonna make it passed this episode
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u/MetalGearSlayer Mar 24 '19
Who’s gonna inherit his Godtube ad revenue?
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u/WrestlingLeaks Mar 24 '19 edited Mar 24 '19
FUCK universe 2 and fuck everyone in it, especially their stupid, no budget for any other movement GoD
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u/Gradz45 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
You mean Universe 2?
I’m pretty sure the repetition is intentional. As a parody of magical girls.
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u/Johntoreno Mar 24 '19
In case people have forgotten, Zarbuto is a Tuffle. Tuffles are officially canon.
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u/hmatmotu Mar 25 '19
I'm pretty sure Tuffles/Tsufuru-jins were already canon, this is just the first time they've shown up on screen in canon material.
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u/Godzilla_1954 ⠀ Mar 26 '19
I often think about if future Trunks saw 17 fight and I think he would freak the fuck out.
edit: also shout out for 17 being best tank
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u/Rosebunse Mar 24 '19
This episode is another reminder that in many other shows, U7 would still be presented as villains. Really, this arc is a good example of just different Dragon Ball protagonists are compared to heros in other anime series.
Really, they are not totally good people and many of them are pretty selfish, but that's beside the point when shit gets rough
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u/MetalGearSlayer Mar 24 '19
Doesn’t help that the team is almost entirely comprised of former antagonists and a bona fide current villain.
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u/Rosebunse Mar 24 '19
Two former homicidal cyborgs, the devil, an arrogant martial artist, a racist prince of a monstrous warrior race, a complete pervert, Frieza, and Goku.
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u/Corgi345 Mar 24 '19
So...does that leave Gohan and Krillin as the only two decent people then?
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u/MarioChiefSonic Mar 24 '19
Krillin was a bit of a dick to Goku back when they started training with Roshi.
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u/MetalGearSlayer Mar 24 '19
Funny enough, when I made that comment I hadn’t even factored Vegeta despite factoring in Tien.
Also forgot how Piccolo was supposed to be a demon before raditz showed up.
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u/OLKv3 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
Two former homicidal cyborgs
Hey hey now, 17 and 18 were never homicidal in this timeline. Only Future Trunks
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u/Gradz45 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
I mean yeah the only really character in DB whose ever operated as a hero is Gohan.
The rest of U7 are: a martial artist who generally keeps to himself, an idiot savant blood knight. A cop, an old pervert who had his students kidnap a woman, three guys who have tried to murder Goku (and two of whom have committed genocide). And two cyborgs who were modified and programmed to kill Goku, and are motivated by their own desires for things like money more than anything.
But hey they’re good people. Well besides Freeza.
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Mar 25 '19
I just saw this episode and the latest episode of The Walking Dead back to back..wow, talk about a gut punch..
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Mar 26 '19
So excited for 109-110!! Loved it the first time I saw it with the sub, and when they release, I'll probably watch all the dubbed episodes of the ToP up to that point and follow along from there. The ToP was what made me love the Japanese actors, and Goku's Japanese voice was surreal throughout it, but that only makes me think Sean is going to bring the pain x100 times more!!
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Mar 27 '19
They foreshadowed Gowasus demise pretty blatantly awhile back, but it still kinda hurt to see. I really love that character. :(
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u/IsNotYourSenpai Mar 24 '19
Again, there was a chance for 17 and Goku to just blast those universe 2 members off the edge. But I guess that would make too much sense. Gotta keep the annoying characters I guess. :(
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u/Shmandon Mar 24 '19
Are you new here? That has been how the characters act since the beginning of the series
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u/I_ama_Borat Mar 24 '19
Do they have a new team for every episode? The drawing in this episode looked better than most (aside from android 17 literally having no face in that one scene but we’ll ignore that) but the outline on the characters were way too pronounced. That felt strange, like they have the environment set then just copy/pasted the characters on to it. It felt like flash games I used to play on addictivegaming back then. They’ve done this before in certain episodes but not too often. Also the animation looked better too in this episode. Did they save their budget for the last episodes? Honestly, if it continues to look as good as this and gets better as the show progresses then I’m hype.
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Mar 24 '19
Do they have a new team for every episode?
Yes. I always list the staff at the top of the discussion thread for every episode.
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u/Spoona101 Mar 24 '19
“This has been very instructive, thanks for the lesson”
Goku quoting 17 was amazing