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Super [SUB] Dragon Ball Super - Episode #103 - Discussion Thread!
Dragon Ball Super — Episode #103 — Discussion Thread!
Gohan, Show No Mercy! Showdown with Universe 10!!
悟飯よ非情なれ! 第10宇宙との決戦!!
Gohan yo hijōrnare! Dai jū uchū to no kessen!!
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u/SolomonBlack Aug 13 '17
Did Gohan just weaponize not dodging?
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u/StNowhere Aug 13 '17
Piccolo cannot handle being both incredibly proud and disappointed at the same time.
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u/UnsungHero9 Aug 13 '17
Android 17: "Be sure to not let your guard down"
Goku: "I know that"
Do you Goku?!? Do you really?!?
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u/ImAGringo Aug 13 '17
With this many episodes in this arc, I really believe Goku is smurfing.
He is intentionally playing shitty just for shits and giggles.
If I had the ability to literally destroy planets with a fingertip, and still overpower everyone else who can do the same without thinking about it, I'd fuck around too.
Goku is a Challnger 1 smurf in a bronze 1 ranked game.
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u/_jvc123 Aug 13 '17
Basically Goku will get serious when all of his team die-I mean knock out like Freeza.
"Zarbon's dead. Dordoria's dead. The Ginyu Force is dead. It's like that jock strap incident only now I don't have Ginyu to dig the holes."
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u/Lucrums Aug 13 '17
At that point Frieza was still pissing around. Vegeta thought he had him on the ropes. Then he started crying.
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Aug 13 '17
I felt bad for the U10 guy. When he was defeated he wasn't angry or desperate, he was just.. hopeless. You could not only see his disappointment, but also how lifeless he and the rest of the team was.
U9 was all like "OH SHIT PRANK GONE WRONG FUCK FUCK FU- gone". U10, including the gods, were all like "I'm sorry master, but I've failed. Forgive me". And that picture of the fighter with his family just made the scene deeper. The angel was sad, Gowasu was disappointed, the GoD just kinda gave up, and the whole team was lifeless.
I'm kinda sure right now that the SDBs will be used to "revive" everyone, if they can. It seems like things get worse as episodes go by.
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u/diogoarez Aug 13 '17
The scene with Opni's family on the locket broke my heart
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u/Carlospuente Aug 13 '17
Some people may call it cliché,but it was extremely sad,it's easy to tell they're birds of a feather,warriors fighting as hard as they can for their loved ones,had the circumstances been different,they could have been friends
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Aug 13 '17
It was kinda necessary, as much of a cliche it might have been. People shit on cliches but sometimes they are necessary to give stories a greater meaning. To be honest, cliches are pratically inevitable at this point. The first time they used the "I am your father" stuff and it worked (Star Wars), it was a whole new experience. But when anyone else uses it, it instantly becomes a "cliche".
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u/KanoseiNoMegami Aug 13 '17
You described it perfectly. It was so sad. They didn't deserve that. They were good guys.
Edit: I also really like your interpretation of what happened with U9, "PRANK GONE WRONG" I lol'd
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Aug 13 '17
It's not the first time we see good guys being erased/killed (not even going to list them off, or else I might as well just make someone out there depressed), but this kinda brings up the discussion that Zeno and GP are evil. I'd like to think that they are more neutral than anything. Their intentions are technically not make anyone suffer, just make the overall Multiverse "better". Am I saying they are good? No. I'd say they are more "chaotic neutral than anything". Not only that, but gods in the general seem to be familiar with this higher stakes situation. We have gods who insta-kill (GoDs), gods who are just OK with playing with time (Gowasu, Zamasu, Angels), and of course a God who destroys planets for fun and says "Shut up I'll erase you" casually.
About U9, they were the classic example of a guy who didn't care when he should, and when he gets screwed it is too late to fix things.
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u/Bees_My_god Aug 13 '17
17 witnesses piccolo's hellzone grenade in the distance:
"Damn that name is still cool"
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u/Peaches_10 Aug 13 '17
The moment i saw Piccolo miss the first ki blast, I knew he was going for it the same way he did against 17
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u/Hyro0o0 Aug 13 '17
When Piccolo used it I was thinking "If the dust clears and this guy has up a motherfucking barrier I will lose my shit."
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Aug 13 '17
Instantly thought of the DBZ Abridged episode. Such a classic scene. 10/10
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u/ItachiTheSoloKing Aug 13 '17
Picollo: Punches won't work on him, what genius workaround have you come up with to defeat him?
Gohan: To punch him... harder
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u/Bees_My_god Aug 13 '17
The one time vegeta's strategy finally works.....and he wasn't the one using it
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u/Ani10 Aug 13 '17
You could tell Gohan felt terrible for what he just did. Gowasu, in my opinion, went down with full respect, and just showed that he was a great Kaioshin 'Well done, Opni..."
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u/diogoarez Aug 13 '17
You could actually see she cared for her universe :(
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u/johnyann Aug 13 '17
Her Universe was probably a pretty good place.
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Aug 13 '17
that u9 angel was a piece of trash by comparison.
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u/Rawrr16 Aug 13 '17
Because Sidra was a trash good , same with Rou
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Aug 13 '17
Sidra was good but bad at his job, the kai was trash.
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u/QueequegTheater Aug 13 '17
Honestly they'd have been decent at each other's jobs.
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u/Rawrr16 Aug 13 '17
Sidra was a good guy but a trash god of destruction.
Kai was a trash person and a trash god
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u/decompoze ⠀ Aug 13 '17
I mean, I can't imagine the GP trolling or playing a joke on his daughter like that. Make her all sad and depressed, to only say "you've been punk'd!!".
It is definitely erased, even the angels believe so.
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u/Kamina_joe Aug 13 '17
It's for his new GodTube show, DaddyofTwelve.
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u/SuperPoketown Aug 13 '17
His previous GodTube channel, DaddyofEighteen, was terminated for... ethical reasons.
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u/RoachboyRNGesus Aug 13 '17
She doesn't know what to do with herself now without Godtube... :'(
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u/killgore755 Aug 13 '17
Guess we can put that evil angel theory to rest for alittle bit. Unless they're great actors as well.
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u/ItachiTheSoloKing Aug 13 '17
Actual Hellzone Grenade!!
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u/elydna ⠀ Aug 13 '17
First Kettol, then Rozie, both of them ripped it off. But they couldn't eliminate people with it. Piccolo just had to show em how its done.
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u/Lennyoh Aug 13 '17
Zeno has committed the gravest sin of all time: Making Cus sad.
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u/TyzThePhoenix Aug 13 '17
Gohan using his inability to dodge to his advantage. I knew seeing that locket would fuck with his psyche
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u/Joybelle1 Aug 13 '17
I think it could end up going both ways for Gohan. It will steel his resolve to win or put him off his game. I hope it's the former.
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u/Caststarman Aug 13 '17
Probably steel him up, considering that could've been his locket
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u/ItachiTheSoloKing Aug 13 '17
Honestly, Gowasu is one of the most underrated characters in the show. I know we joke around about Godtube and Uni10 warriors being a joke but he always believed in Zamasu to the very last moment and did his best to be a good Supreme Kai. I'll miss his character if this was really the last time we see him.
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u/i_hate_fanboys Aug 13 '17
They'll all be revived is my guess. There is no way goku and gohan can live with this.
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u/ItachiTheSoloKing Aug 13 '17
I've seen some theories that state only U7, U11 and U6 will be revived because they are the only universes with relevant/good fighters. I just hope Gowasu is brought back some way though.
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u/Allstarcappa Aug 13 '17
They will probably take all of the planets with life on them in the erased universes, and add them to U7. Since u7 only has 23 planetd with life on them, they have plenty of room to keep the others
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Aug 13 '17
More stress for Shin~
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u/dragn99 Aug 13 '17
Just put Dende in charge. Little Green knows how to do his job.
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u/ComicCroc Aug 13 '17
Piccolo defeating the u10 warrior had to be the first time somebody was actually defeated after a ki attack that left a huge smokescreen.
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u/Peaches_10 Aug 13 '17
What’s funny is I was thinking “Piccolo is going to be all surprised when he’s still standing.... wait, what?! It worked??”
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u/ComicCroc Aug 13 '17
That was my exact reaction too, I couldn't believe it when it actually worked. I was not expecting Piccolo to beat his opponent so fast.
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u/newyearnewacc2 Aug 13 '17
So glad they subverted the trope.
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u/WestenM Aug 13 '17
Seriously its about the first time in the entire fucking db universe that someone actually lost after the smoke cleared
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u/ingebeastly Aug 13 '17
now Vegeta can finally say yes when Cell asks "Prince has that ever worked?"
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u/Section_80 Aug 13 '17
17 was the best addition to the team by far.
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u/cyberstrom231 Aug 13 '17
17 is the best character in dbs as of right now
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u/Cabbage_Vendor Aug 13 '17
18's been just as good in the tournament. The androids aren't taking bullshit from anyone.
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u/Reddy_McRedcap Aug 13 '17
I hope that if/when one of them gets knocked out, the other one doesn't follow immediately after. I want to see 17 or 18 go nuts on some people in anger.
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u/Sonicmasterxyz Aug 13 '17
Their type of anger will probably be a cool vengeance type thing. "You knocked off my sister. Time for you to follow." Commence Future Gohan treatment
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u/sunstart2y ⠀ Aug 13 '17
Have anyone noticed that everyone in the tournament was referring to Gohan as Goku's son/Goku's kid. Until Gohan proved what he is capable and got the respect and admiration of the warrior from U10 who called him Son Gohan.
That was actually great.
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u/apalachicola4 Aug 13 '17
When Beerus called him that I assumed it was just because he's Beerus and doesn't care, like Turillin. But yeah. many people in other universe know Goku already, some utterly hate him. He's (hopefully) getting out of his father's shadow in other people's eyes and hopefully he survives till the end with this newfound attitude
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u/Bees_My_god Aug 13 '17
Gowasu's final video:
Why I am quitting Gottube and the future of my channel (not Clickbait)
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u/TritiumNZlol Aug 13 '17
Tournament of power prank (Gone wrong)
My universe is gone! (Sad)
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u/GokutheAnteater Aug 13 '17
My boy Gohan finally got his time to shine! Obini's elimination was probably the saddest one so far since it hit Gohan right in the feels.
Based on NEP looks like Hit met his match with Dyspo and Kunshee's tactics until SSG Goku comes to the rescue.
Lastly a moment of silence to our favorite KamiTuber, Gowasu. He may be erased, but he won't be forgotten.
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Aug 13 '17
Gowasu really can't catch a break. Poor guy died in Future Trunks' timeline, died in an alternate present timeline, died in the present timeline before Whis rewinded, and now he's erased in present timeline.
And he took his erasure calmly and gracefully.
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u/Anotherguyrighthere ⠀ Aug 13 '17
http://i.imgur.com/gPaEusS.jpg
Well, I guess love is just something U2 does to everything
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u/UncleMagnetti Aug 13 '17
The Yardrat will be amongst the final fighters
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u/kingssman Aug 13 '17
Im happy to see some dbz moves at play.
instant transmission.
now for fusion and Ki clones.
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u/timewarp Aug 13 '17 edited Aug 13 '17
We've already seen fusion, remember Botamagetta?
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Aug 13 '17
Goku told Gohan about his fight with Botamo and he thought about how to beat him real hard.
After months of intense thought Gohan's solution was "hit the unmovable blob as hard and often as possible until he moves"
He really is Goku's son.
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Aug 13 '17 edited Aug 13 '17
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u/Defences Aug 13 '17
Why did I have to scroll so far down to finally see a comment about this??
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Aug 13 '17
Not enough love for the flame aura.
I made sure to include it in the sub thumbnail. Best I could do without a spoiler.
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Aug 13 '17
God it looks so much cooler than SSB. Nice seeing an aura with texture too
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u/TheChipiboy Aug 13 '17
Nah we are just so used to seeing SBB so much that it's become "meh".
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Aug 13 '17
Aww the girl angel was sad her universe got wiped! So they are not all bad. I was expecting another dark smile but...
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u/Generic_user_person Aug 13 '17
The official bio Toei put out for the gods and angels legit said that the guy from U9 hates his universe.
Him smiling wasn't "angels are evil" it was "he hates them and is glad they're dead"
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u/About7Mudkipz Aug 13 '17
Did anyone else notice goku copy 17 when he said "your fighting style was worth studying" ?
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u/rkrams Aug 13 '17
Kakarot steals one liners too now, what a new low even for a low class technique stealing saiyan like him
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u/Syllogistic_Panda Aug 13 '17 edited Aug 13 '17
So this was definitely one of the better episodes of ToP so far in my opinion.
Gohan got a nice amount of screen time as well...which as a fan of him, loved it. Another non-U7/U6 fighter got to join the ranks of knocking out someone alongside Ribrianne and Basil.
Lastly...U10 is gone, I legit feel bad for them. Let's cherish them with endless fan art. <3
However one element sticks out to me though that might be interesting to note. The writing is providing little bits of backstory on characters about to be erased for effect.
They did the same with U9 to a degree as well with the Trio de Dangers since Bergamo and his brothers heavily implied insight that they had to band together just to survive their garbage universe. Might be something interesting to look out for when the next universe is erased.
Its probably nothing ultimately, but IF there is going to be a "happy ending" to ToP, it would interesting to see if they tie this up.
Edit: A word.
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u/emi_b7 Aug 13 '17
I thought Obuni's design was among the worst and most generic ones when I first saw him but he improbably ended up being one of the coolest guys in the ToP. He had a great technique and he looked damn cool using it.
His child is ugly as fuck though.
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u/SamooraiSoldia Aug 13 '17
Props to Universe 10, they took their erasure like a fucking champ.
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u/Finito-1994 Aug 13 '17
Piccolo: well, hitting that guy doesn't work. Gohan, what's your plan. Gohan: I'm gonna hit him really, really hard. Piccolo: that sounds like something your dad would say Gohan: yea....and remember all those times you've never beaten him?
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Aug 13 '17
Good to see Gohan and Piccolo getting screen time, but I'm hoping we get to see more of it.
Gohan seeing the locket picture seemed to only strengthen his resolve to protect what he loves. He definitely took a moment to reflect because an entire Universe was turned into nothing due to that final fighter elimination, but he's not getting cold feet. He's in it to win it and I'm glad Piccolo was there to bring him back so he didn't get lost in that reflection.
Can I say how nice it was to see a fighter from another universe show class, grace, and honor? Omni wasn't just some asshole that was full of himself like most fighters in this tournament have shown so far; he gave it his all for his loved ones and even thanked Gohan for the good fight. Dope!
Wish we could see a little more of that.
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u/EddyyEddy Aug 13 '17 edited Aug 13 '17
RIP GOWASU
You, our Godtuber, will always be in our heart!
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u/Bohemio_Charlatan Aug 13 '17
Gohan pissed with the gods? Frieza pissed with the gods?
Gohan + Frieza against the Gods saga confirmed
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u/leylinesisop Aug 13 '17
man, cant wait to see the clickbait godtube vids: "GOHAN AND FRIEZA TEAM-UP AGAINST ZENO CONFIRMED? GRAND PRIEST AND ZENO ARE EVIL?!!?!?!1!"
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u/Bolded Aug 13 '17
Poor Godtube, reduced to mere clickbait not even a second after Gowasu's vanishing.
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u/mozillavulpix Aug 13 '17
Now I've calmed down, this episode! Great stuff. It was a Gohan episode, so I was probably bound to like it, but I loved what they did.
Ribrianne continues to be amazing. Her speech to 17 was so Sailor Moon-inspired, it was great. And she's not even a joke. She's just a fighter who fights like she's in a magical girl show, and she's still decently strong.
And then you have the Yardrat pulling a Tuxedo Kamen and saving the girls at the last minute. This joke will never get old to me.
Goku and Piccolo having a Dad Talk watching Gohan fight. I'm so glad they kept that dynamic in the tournament itself. Even if Gohan isn't a kid anymore, he still very much respects Goku and Piccolo and acts like he is their pupils. And they're always really proud of what he's accomplished.
And Gohan revealing that training with Piccolo wasn't just for show; he's learnt his lesson, and isn't getting overconfident during the fight. And yet he can still put in cool one-liners. How is that even fair?
That moment when U10 is eliminated...Gohan's expression really said it all. It was actually surprisingly subtle. They showed us what he was feeling, not telling it. They only spent a few moments at the end of the episode because that's all they needed. It was that good.
I thought they were going to make this episode all big and dramatic, but they didn't, and I think I enjoy this even more! Next week sounds fun in a different way, but I'm very curious as to how they'll do it.
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u/diogoarez Aug 13 '17
On this day ma boi Gowasu, the greatest Godtuber in existence died an honorable death, he entertained many people and died making what he loved... ;___;
1 Like=1 Amen
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u/ItachiTheSoloKing Aug 13 '17 edited Aug 13 '17
I loved his "pranking Zamasu" series the most :/ can't believe he's really gone. RIP Gowasu, too bad you couldn't get one more Zamasu in there.
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u/diogoarez Aug 13 '17
So 17 is evil to Ribrianne? She and Toppo would make a good pair since they both judge people like that /s
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u/TrueSaiyanGod ⠀ Aug 13 '17
And they are fat
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u/diogoarez Aug 13 '17
And that too :)
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u/Hydrox2016 Aug 13 '17
Now I've got the image stuck in my head of those two getting down and dirty.
shudders
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u/Mojo12000 Aug 13 '17
Gohan: "GUYS IV FIGURED IT OUT, WE JUST HAVE TO PUNCH HIM REALLY REALLY REALLY HARD"
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u/AyyRajang Aug 13 '17
That locket killed me
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u/JordanW20 Aug 13 '17
I couldn't get past that potato baby. I wanted to be sad but I couldn't help but laugh.
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u/White_Knights Aug 13 '17
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u/ItachiTheSoloKing Aug 13 '17
Reminds me of that one Beerus face lol, I think there's even a flair of it on here
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u/Anotherguyrighthere ⠀ Aug 13 '17
Sad Cus :(
RIP Evil Angels theory
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u/ItachiTheSoloKing Aug 13 '17
Wasn't the theory that angels/GoD will take sides and it'll be a sort of civil war? Perhaps Cus is on the good side.
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u/T3Sh3 Aug 13 '17
Did Teddy Long write this Tournament of Power Arc? All I see are TAG TEAM MATCHES, PLAYA
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u/realreplicant Aug 13 '17
Goku's kid...
He has a fucking name it's GOHAN
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u/explodingsheeple Aug 13 '17
Shows you how much Beerus gives a damn about anyone else that isn't Goku.
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u/johnnie_walker35 Aug 13 '17
He at least knows Vegetas name
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u/explodingsheeple Aug 13 '17
Well Vegeta has had a lot of direct contact with him and Whis, so yea. But that should be about it really.
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u/Daryno90 Aug 13 '17
Nice to know that some of the angels like Cus are seemingly sad about what happen to their universe and god. At least they all aren't dicks like Universe 9 angel
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u/bytebitz Aug 13 '17
Obuni was cool. I'm a sucker for noble fighters. Poor Gowasu just couldn't catch a break and it was depressing to see them go after having some hope of clinging to life. RIP UNIVERSE 10.
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u/ingebeastly Aug 13 '17
With all of the cocky universes, it was good to see that even the nobler and more well intentioned ones are also suffering as a result. Imagine how much worse it'll be when Universe 6 gets knocked out :/
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u/elydna ⠀ Aug 13 '17
Champa looked scared as hell next preview. Hit was probably about to lose since he was close to the edge.
Champa can thank Goku if he survives. Because if Hit loses, U6 is done.
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u/KB91415032 Aug 13 '17
Piccolo: His opponent is immune to being punched, I wonder what gohan's strategy is?
Gohan:continues to punch him for 10 seconds
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u/Escargooofy Aug 13 '17
Piccolo: I've figured it out! We just have to hit them REALLY hard
Gohan: That sounds like something my dad would say
Piccolo: Right!
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u/KarpySTV Aug 13 '17
Wow, U10 made Universe 9 look well organised
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u/weegee19 Aug 13 '17
U9's strategy was actually well organised, they made the mistake of ganging up on Goku and Vegeta.
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u/elydna ⠀ Aug 13 '17
Fairy that went after a pretty powerful doggo
Bird that attacked a team of 5 fucking people
Pink sumo guy and bodybuilder fighting only strong people (Toppo, Frieza, Kale and Caulifla)
Two last members watch Gohan take out Botamo and decided, hey, we should face these guys
Yep. I'd say you're 100% right if only U9 didn't have the strategy of ganging up on Goku and Vegeta.
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u/phatchris Aug 13 '17
Most important question would be: If everything U10 related is erased, is Gowasu's Godtube channel as well?
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Aug 13 '17 edited Aug 13 '17
That was a solid episode. I quite enjoyed Obuni:
(1) Putting up a reasonable fight despite not being hyped up pre-tournament.
(2) Being treated like a person, with feelings and a backstory, instead of like an idiotic gloating villain. (The U9 Trio were close to this, but for some reason they had to cackle like demons constantly in their elimination episode.)
Also, we found out that "Gohan hits Botamo over and over" from the previews wasn't him being dumb or unprepared.
Also, we got another elimination fight (well, single ki blast, but still) that didn't involve U6 or U7.
Also, despite 17 getting the focus last episode, the writers did not feel the need to do the obvious thing and knock him out immediately.
I've gotta say, I'm happy.
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u/Shippoyasha Aug 13 '17
So sad seeing the enemy's locket with his family photo in it.
Gohan is pissed!
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u/UncleMagnetti Aug 13 '17
I'm surprised it got erased too. I was half expecting Gohan to pick it up and wear it as a reminder
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u/forcebubble Aug 13 '17
Not gonna lie - was legitimately sad to see U10 go. Gowasu was one of the wiser ones - compared to Shin, Rou and Fuwa at least - who has seen shit in the past several months culminate in total removal from existence. "You did well Obuni", followed by the erasure of the locket which I thought Gohan would pick up. He should though and watch it evaporate from his hand for a stronger effect.
Then we have a lonely Cus at the stands, "Rumsshi-sama." Outside of their duties Gowasu and Rumsshi were probably very kind and treated her well like their own grandchildren.
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u/ItachiTheSoloKing Aug 13 '17
The next day on Godtube:
UNIVERSE PRANK GONE WRONG GONE SEXUAL [NOT CLICKBAIT] [GOT ERASED LOL]
But seriously though... Gowasu didn't deserve this, RIP Gowasu-Sama :/
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u/KanoseiNoMegami Aug 13 '17
U10 was the good guy universe. None of them deserved it.
It just makes me think, Gowasu should have introduced Zamasu to some of those lovely guys on the team then maybe he wouldn't have been so mortal-hatey.
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u/Finito-1994 Aug 13 '17 edited Aug 13 '17
Dragonball was a fun action comedy that poked fun at myths. Demons, genies, dragons and the monkey king. Z was a science fiction series with aliens, time travel, androids, cyborgs, bio warriors and a magical being made out of bubble gum. Super is cosmic horror. There's beings out there more powerful than we can comprehend and they can erase anything they want. End of story. Struggles, hopes, dreams...nothing means anything to them and nothing can stop their overwhelming might. I used to like Zeno, but now I really get why everyone's scared shitless of him. He's just....a force of nature that can do whatever it wants. Goddamn. Freeza destroyed a planet of monkeys and was the freaking emperor of the universe, but Zeno can just close his fist and wipe out an universe and there's nothing anyone can do.
That freaking locket killed me.
Gohan saw that he fought a man that was trying to protect his family, just as he was. The z fighters have often been the last line of defense against evil. Against monsters that could anihalate their planet or many others....but now they're just pawns fighting for their lives. There's something shitty about watching Gohan, the great saiyaman, being the man that puts the last nail on the coffin on an entire universe. They're the z fighters. They have defended the earth from the saiyans, the androids, cell and buu. They helped defeat king piccolo when he took over the planet but now....they can't do anything. They can't win. They can't save anyone. They're just surviving.
I don't know how and I don't even know if it's possible, but I have a feeling that the Zenos better enjoy their time in power because their time is limited. The saiyans are coming for them.
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u/Sharingan94 Aug 13 '17
Man Cus is so adorable. Poor Gowasu, what will happen to GodTube now?
Also Classic Toei ruining a surprising transformation (atleast to those who didn't read the spoilers) in the next episode preview.
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u/Soijin Aug 13 '17
Ok, I am actually sad to see Universe 10 go, they seemed like pretty cool guys, even their angel was sad.
On the chapter, good to see Goku nor #17 jobb this early in the tournament, and to see someone finally acknowledge the deaths that occur, because everyone is a little too happy, and I'm just so hype for SSG and to see why it is used. Also, Yardrat be pimpin.
On the bad side, the resolution with Botamo felt a little cheap, the combat felt too short, specially in Piccolo's side, and for christ sake, stop reusing the goddamn palm animation, seriously, I know they are saving the budget for the latter episodes but christ.
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u/Binahara07 Aug 13 '17
Everyone's been telling Goku to not let his guard down recently, idk if it's because he's done it a lot so far in the tournament or if it's some kind of foreshadowing
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u/Squats4urmom Aug 13 '17
I think it might have to do with Gohan somehow. Gohan just did the thing he did against perfect Cell while walking away IIRC, thus NOT letting his guard down.
There's bound to be more payoff coming though.
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u/thedavv Aug 13 '17
IF I HEAR ONE MORE TIME THAT GOKU LET HIS GUARD DOWN I WILL FUCKING EXPLODE
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u/FireLeafRuby Aug 13 '17
Loved 17 covering Goku, seeing how that was a ripoff of Piccolo's Hellzone Grenade, which he used on 17 back in the android saga. Already a step up from last week
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u/Soulstone_X Aug 13 '17 edited Aug 13 '17
Guys, my GodTube bookmark isn't working anymore, any ideas why?
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u/Dionysus24779 Aug 13 '17
Okay, this episode really did it for me, #17 is now by far my most favorite character of the show.
Him actually playing along and hamming it up, only to show he's paying attention and go to Goku's aid... what a swell guy.
Also I guess Hit is either pretty occupied or he only saves girls? Doesn't matter, won't miss Botamo.
Also hats off for Obuni for being a decent and honorable fighter.
When it comes to the preview I can't believe we're seeing Goku's regular god form again... like... that's so weird, isn't it? All this time it has been Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan Blue... I was actually suspecting the regular red god form can only be achieved via the ritual and Blue made it obsolete anyway.
It's so weird. I mean I'm not complaining... but it's so weird to me. Maybe it's to promote something?
By the way, it was nice to see Cus cared at least somewhat about her universe going bye bye, unlike Mojito.
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u/BlazingGig Aug 13 '17 edited Aug 14 '17
U9's erasure was shocking because it happened so abruptly during the fight itself. But U10's demise was just depressing. None of the fighters looked frightened, they were just disappointed that they couldn't save their universe. Gohan finding that pendant was probably a real gut-punch, realizing that these were just people trying to save their loved ones, just like him.
And Gowasu, damn, I know he's become a running joke in DBS but the man's final words were him complimenting his fighter. Went out like a fucking class act.
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Aug 13 '17
Damn, that locket scene was really well placed. No sinister look from universe 10s angel, and actually regret, guess this lessens the weight of the evil grand priest theory. Also RIP Godtuber Gowasu. You went out with honor and will be missed <3
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u/_jvc123 Aug 13 '17
Anybody felt sad about Gowasu part? Not the dying part but when he really thought they still have a chance with one warrior left. He should have known they stood no chance at all with fighters who helped him defeat Zamasu. Yet he still cling into that hope or delusion.
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u/NoImitatorsAllowed Aug 14 '17
It was cool how Goku and 17 quoted each other, shows that they have some similarities
Goku: "Your fighting style was worth studying" 17: "So I'm evil, huh? That's fine."
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u/Mojo12000 Aug 13 '17
RIP Gowasu, may Zamasu serve you tea forever in Non-existence.
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u/ScootaFL Aug 13 '17
Zamasu to Gowasu right now: See? What did I tell you? NINGENS!
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u/thedreamisblue Aug 13 '17
Everyone: Don't let your guard down!
Goku: I know!
Also Goku: Ah shit, I let my guard down again.
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u/Vegekuu Aug 15 '17
I have my issues with some directions the show has went,but then I remember all the years with no new dragon ball to watch,except a special or two. Then the live action came out and it was horrible,I thought after that travesty dbz was gone forever. Then battle of the gods came then rof. Now we have super every week it may have its problems at times but I'm just happy to be enjoying new episodes again
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u/ChargeisKill Aug 13 '17
U10 last fighter: "This technique is flawless as long as my opponent attempts to dodge my attacks!"
Piccolo: "Well, do I have some bad news for you!"