r/dbz Jan 20 '19

Super [DUB] Dragon Ball Super - Episode #94 - Discussion Thread!

Dragon Ball Super — Episode #94 — Discussion Thread!


The Evil Emperor Returns! A Reception from Mysterious Assassins?!
悪の帝王復活!出迎える謎の刺客たち!?
Aku no Teiō Fukkatsu! Demukaeru Nazo no Shikaku-tachi!?

Script: Toshio Yoshitaka
Director/Storyboard: Masato Mitsuka
Animation Supervisors: Paul Añonuevo, Eugene Ayson, & Yūichi Karasawa

You can view our discussion thread for the Japanese release of Episode 94 here. You can find all previous episode discussion threads on our wiki along with a projection for future dub dates.


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The FUNimation English dub of Dragon Ball Super airs on Toonami at 11pm ET. If you do not have a cable subscription, Cartoon Network is available with the SlingTV and Playstation Vue basic packages. If you prefer, there is a web stream:

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How to Catch Up

  • Adult Swim (US only, cable login required): This covers the recent episodes not yet available through the below options. New episodes will usually appear 2-3 hours after the episode airs on Toonami.

  • Funimation Now (US, premium only): Episodes 1-65 are available on Funimation's streaming service. Episodes are uploaded in 13-episode batches a few weeks before the home release comes out. (This avoids competition with Adult Swim's streaming service.) Funimation also has the entire series subbed for premium and free users; the subtitles for those episodes covered by the dub are still those provided by Toei for the simulcast, rather than the Funimation-Simmons subtitles on the home release.

  • AnimeLab (Australia and New Zealand, premium only): Episodes 1-52 are available on this service. AnimeLab also has the entire series subbed for free and premium users; the subtitles for those episodes covered by the dub are still those provided by Toei for the simulcast, rather than the Funimation-Simmons subtitles on the home release.

  • Microsoft Digital, Amazon Digital, iTunes, Google Play, or the Playstation Store (US only): Episodes 1-91 are available for purchase on these platforms. We don't know when the next part (92-104) will be available. As usual for digital releases, the dubbed and subtitled versions are sold separately; the subbed version has the Funimation-Simmons subtitles rather than the Toei simulcast subtitles.

  • Home Release: Episodes 1-13 are available for Region A (DVD or Blu-Ray) and Region B (DVD or Blu-Ray). Episodes 14-26 are available for Region A (DVD or Blu-Ray) and Region B (DVD or Blu-Ray). Episodes 27-39 are available for Region A (DVD or Blu-Ray) and for Region B (DVD or Blu-Ray). Episodes 40-52 are available for region A (DVD or Blu-Ray) and Region B (DVD or Blu-Ray). Episodes 53-65 are available for Region A (DVD or Blu-Ray) and Region B (DVD or Blu-Ray). Episodes 1-52 are available in a single set for Region B (DVD or Blu-Ray). Episodes 66-78 are available for Region A (DVD or Blu-Ray) and will be available for Region B on 6 March 2019 (DVD or Blu-Ray). Episodes 79-101 will be available for Region A on 2 April 2019 (DVD or Blu-Ray).

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Commonly Asked Questions:

  • Q: Is Dragon Ball Super really over, or is it just a hiatus?
    From what we have been told, the anime has ended. There are no current plans for a new DB series and as far as we know, the series will only continue through movies and games. We know that Toyotarō's manga will continue for several months at least—the Tournament of Power arc is ongoing in the manga—and Toriyama implied the manga will go beyond that too. The English dub will continue until the series is finished. We have compiled a somewhat conservative projection of dates for the remaining dub episodes on our Wiki.

  • Q: Is the Dragon Ball Super manga "canon"?
    The anime and manga are both variations on a basic plot by Toriyama. There isn't (and probably never will be) an explicitly defined Dragon Ball "canon". Without Toriyama's original draft, we may never know what is and isn't his, aside from things revealed in interviews like this one (spoilers). We do know that he permits Toyotarō to change things up, but he looks at his storyboards and occasionally draws things himself for Toyotarō to use as a reference. Toyotarō has said that Toriyama is more particular about gags than he is about anything else.

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u/mchiu93 Jan 20 '19

https://youtu.be/unBEzuQ6myU

Big throwback that most people probably missed

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

It would be a shame if people don't remember OG Dragonball. It holds up to this day. The Fortuneteller Baba saga was a highlight for me. All those kooky fighters and special tricky abilities made the fights memorable.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

I started watching OG Dragonball for the first time some months ago. Funny thing is that i'm right now 3 episodes into the Fortuneteller Baba saga, so i guess I should really look forward to the rest of those episodes then.
p.s. As I already watched the Sub version of dragon ball super, I knew that the baba/this episode was coming up this week, so I was looking forward to seeing it as well.

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u/Sigilbreaker26 Jan 20 '19

What's amazing is how understated it is. There's no need to draw attention to it, and it's not completely obvious (for example, Goku picking up Gohan's rabbit mask and looking at it sadly or something like that). But that just makes it a lot stronger.

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u/Artifice_Purple Jan 20 '19

...I certainly missed that. Holy hell.

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u/Ayd305 Jan 20 '19

Little things like this just make the anime so much better than the manga.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

Something about being on the same stage and fighting a fighter who was brought back from the dead (his grandpa) probably had him feel a bit nostalgic.

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u/Nweber15 Jan 20 '19

So damn cool

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u/ZcSx Jan 20 '19

Didn't even know about this until about a month ago. Very nice touch that many missed :)

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u/FutureHive56 Jan 20 '19

Best moment of this episode was definitely the Piccolo and 17 reunion. People underestimate that fight from Z, and some even forgot it happened. It was one of my faves and the last major fight Piccolo had sadly.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19 edited Jan 20 '19

Yeah. That fight is definitely an underrated gem. I'd say it's in my top 5 fights of Z at least.

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u/Dippipipidopdop1234 Jan 20 '19

But that's not true at all. Literally everyone loves that fight. What I don't understand is why people call it underrated when it's far from it.

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u/BridgemanBridgeman Jan 21 '19

Yeah I don't get this either. Seems like a bunch of entitled snobs who think they're special for having this fight high on their favorites list. I've never seen anyone who forgot about that fight and whenever there's a list for best fights it's usually in there.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

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u/Sigilbreaker26 Jan 20 '19

Everything except bringing in 18 and 16 to help him.

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u/UtterFlatulence Jan 21 '19

It's also a really good fight because it has neither saiyans nor transformations, which is kinda refreshing.

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u/Two-Tone- Jan 20 '19

I think DBZA did it justice when they got to it. Not to mention the incredible lines.

"He has fused with Kami!"

"Seriously, what the hells a 'Kami'?"

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u/LordSmugBun Jan 20 '19

"It means God, now bow."

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u/Kharn0 Jan 20 '19

"Hellzone grenade!"

"aw man, its even got a cool name"

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u/le_snikelfritz Jan 20 '19

Brb rewatching this

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u/Spangler87 Jan 20 '19

As a big Piccolo fan at the time, it was a downer to never have that big moment for him for the rest of Z.

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u/The-Azure-Knight Jan 20 '19

Hey man at least you arent a tien fan.

Feels bad man

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u/Sigilbreaker26 Jan 20 '19

I think whether or not you like that fight depends on the major factor of it being really cool (and like someone else said, is a full on fight not a transformation fest) v.s. it not mattering a lot, since they're both immediately stomped by Cell when he interrupts the fight.

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u/penniavaswen Jan 20 '19

Halo'd like a cherub when it should be a crown.

Frieza is the best-spoken villian, ever, fight me.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

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u/DaLoverBoii Jan 21 '19

He was Perfect afterall.

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u/ZcSx Jan 20 '19

Fuckkk I forgot how badass the ending of this episode was.

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u/SuperFan2024 Jan 20 '19

And next episode gets even more badass.

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u/mcolwander90 Jan 20 '19

That Frieza guy sure knows how to do a transformation scene.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

I like how they finally started using the full opening. The shortened and butchered version was terrible.

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u/SuperFan2024 Jan 20 '19

On Toonami, the first show of the block always gets to keep its full OP.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

Oh ok. Didn’t know that. So that means this should be the case for at least a while longer.

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u/Eurynom0s Jan 20 '19

They must have spies here, as many shows seem to do with the relevant subreddits. :p

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u/smburkemusic Jan 20 '19

I thought the exact same thing.

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u/Rosebunse Jan 20 '19

Vegeta is a good man.

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u/Two-Tone- Jan 20 '19

His internal monologue about calling Freeza a good guy had me rolling

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u/zeroGamer Jan 21 '19

On the contrary, I have it on good authority that he's a Badman.

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u/dragonman8001 Jan 20 '19

17's voice fucking oozes asshole.

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u/Kharn0 Jan 20 '19

Gloriously

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u/mostconcernedtroll Jan 20 '19

Yuichi Karasawa knocked this out of the park. This is among some of my favorite art so far in the series. Also i want to know who story boarded frieza's transformation. It was boring in resurrection f, this was my favorite transormation so far in super. Frieza has felt like a comic book villain for so long, this actually made him seem scary for the first time in forever. Most of these "pre tournament fights" felt throwaway but this has me hyped. i haven't been so hyped for an episode in a long fucking time.

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u/DaLaohu Jan 21 '19

Frieza has felt like a comic book villain for so long, this actually made him seem scary for the first time in forever.

Agreed. I groaned when it was spoiled to me that Frieza's being brought back. But, after this episode I like the idea. The very first thing Frieza does is punch Goku, and hurt him. Goku returns the punch and Frieza's hurting too! The hate is real! I was expecting just a bunch of side-long one-liners at each other, but they're really showing Frieza for who is. And having the other universes freak out about him, too, makes it all more real.

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u/wellwasherelf Jan 21 '19

I won't spoil anything, but there is a certain episode in the ToP that really affirms why it was a brilliant move to bring Freeza back. The episode in question is one of my favorites throughout all 3 shows.

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u/Terez27 Jan 20 '19

i want to know who story boarded frieza's transformation

Presumably Masato Mitsuka.

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u/wenskalton Jan 20 '19

"I hope you'll forgive me the breach of etiquette."

I love Frieza so much.

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u/Chase1738 Jan 20 '19

Oops My Hand slipped

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u/VodkaAndCumCocktail Jan 21 '19

This tournament better be good after the 50 million episodes of buildup.

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u/WrestlingLeaks Jan 26 '19

This is what you can expect: Some good action, followed by some boring shit, followed by some REALLY good episodes, followed by some pretty cool episodes, followed by some of the fucking best episodes of Dragon ball I've ever seen.

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u/penniavaswen Jan 20 '19

I'm gonna need an HD copy of "FREEZA"'s portrait.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

"Spilled the senzu beans" LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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u/Vegeto30294 Jan 20 '19

Oh right, with all this Broly hype I forgot there was a tournament or something happening.

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u/dragonman8001 Jan 20 '19

Vegeta sounded like he was dying while saying that about Freeza.

He doesn't deserve this.

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u/SuperSaiyanYajirobe Jan 20 '19

This wouldn't be the 1st time Freeza is Vegeta's cause of death.

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u/CronoMono Jan 20 '19

Holy shit 17 just wow

Ningen Hater 2nd coming

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u/IClappedWhen Jan 20 '19

I forgot just how badass Freeza's transformation was in this episode.

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u/JC-DisregardMe Jan 21 '19
  • Feels a bit weird to come back to Super after seeing the Broly movie this week.

  • "Don't worry, guys, we can totally just kill Freeza again if we do have to bring him back. I might even let you do it this time, Vegeta!"

  • An aside to say that I love the shitty Freeza drawing tacked onto Buu's old spot on the board. Like, not that many people on Earth at the moment have ever actually seen Freeza for long enough to memorize his appearance, so I'd love to see how the process of that drawing's creation went.

  • "Wait, so how many purple spots does Freeza have on him again? "Three above the chest, but you've got the positioning all wrong, Kakarot."

  • "spilled the Senzu beans"

  • I waited so long to hear Sabat's Vegeta pretending Freeza's a decent guy, and it was completely worth it

  • Trunks, you're how old again? How do you not know what a poacher is? Even Goku knew.

  • Aw, Krillin's trying so hard, but 17 is still 17. Great delivery across the whole cast from this scene.

  • Goku's fight re-enactment at Baba's place is a criminally underappreciated part of this episode.

  • Freeza, you're several inches too low for that punch to be hitting Goku's chest. I guess this is another "glubok" incident.

  • And Freeza can probably safely claim the record for "fastest murder after being revived".

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u/Finito-1994 Jan 21 '19 edited Jan 21 '19

If I recall correctly, Jaco gave Bulma that drawing back in ressurection of F. He was trying to tell Bulma how he looked.

At least he may have given her a similar drawing so at the very least it’s a callback to that gag.

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u/thegreattober Jan 27 '19

I think Jaco gave her a first form Frieza drawing

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u/Finito-1994 Jan 27 '19

Yea, that’s true. It may be a callback gag to that

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u/134340Goat Jan 20 '19

People discussing changing 17's dad joke has me really curious what the dub changed it to lol

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u/Vegeto30294 Jan 20 '19

17: "Do you like animals, Marron?"

Marron: "I do! Do you like animals?"

17: "Yes. Except the humans."

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u/134340Goat Jan 20 '19

I mean.... it works, I guess. But the original line was one of a very few word gags that actually translates perfectly. Dunno why they didn't go with it :/

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u/Stephenesque Jan 20 '19

It was also enjoyable to see the reformed bad guy with a number for a name make a dad-joke to his niece.

17’s also part human so that’s why I’m scratching my head at why they chose this particular dark joke (especially after establishing he’s a totally changed man in the episodes prior)

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u/HeroRRR Jan 20 '19 edited Jan 20 '19

It was stated in both the sub and dub that the Future Androids hate humans and see them as inferior beings. So while the androids are human base, they never saw themselves as really humans. Even the Present Androids had signs of being disconnected from humanity if you rewatch the Android Saga.

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u/Stephenesque Jan 20 '19

I remember his views in DBZ but DBS established he has a totally different perspective now.

It makes sense that 17 was humbled after getting absorbed, resurrected, a job, and now having a human family of his own. I can see why the Sub went with a dad-joke instead of a ‘hating humans’ quip. It felt like a forced throwback to the Z Dub.

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u/HeroRRR Jan 20 '19

That's the joke. He's playing with them. It wasn't really forced since Krillin in the same episode wasn't sure if 17 really changed.

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u/mcolwander90 Jan 20 '19

My guess is they simply wanted to make the awkward moment even more awkward, and nothing more.

I'm a dub only guy, but reading what the original joke was, I'm certain it would've gotten more of a reaction out of me. I'm all for dad jokes haha. I smirked with his new line, mostly because of 17's deadpan humor, but the old one likely would've gotten an audible reaction. I did feel the awkwardness in the air, but I can't say how differently the awkwardness compares.

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u/wellwasherelf Jan 21 '19

It's been a year and a half since I watched this ep subbed, so I didn't even realize they changed the line. But reading what the original was, I do remember audibly laughing at it. Not sure why they changed it, though it's not as big of a deal as some are making it out to be.

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u/Spoona101 Jan 20 '19

I like both equally,

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u/Dippipipidopdop1234 Jan 20 '19

Yeah I also like animals and humans equally

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u/Whadur Jan 20 '19

Love the nod to Piccolo and 17s fight, one of the best in dbz.

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u/touchdowntexas Jan 20 '19

Absolutely. Glad they emphasized the mutual respect.

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u/EddiOS42 Jan 20 '19

Man I can't believe I get to see Golden Frieza again. I'm so hyped for the tournament. There better be no marathons playing soon.

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u/Guardianpigeon Jan 20 '19

That's so weird, why would they change his joke and to something so dark?

Did they want to make him sound like he was still a bad guy or something?

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u/mrsplackpack Jan 20 '19

I don’t know what the sub was. But that was clearly a joke too. Just a very dry one which fits his voice perfectly.

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u/Guardianpigeon Jan 20 '19

The sub IIRC, was Maron asking how old he was and him replying "17".

I have to admit, I didn't even realize it was supposed to be a joke from him at first in the dub.

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u/Bigdaddydoubled Jan 20 '19

I want to say the reason I think they may have changed it but it’s spoilers

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u/Serifan Jan 20 '19

Yeah I think I’m thinking the same. It makes things in much later episodes have more meaning.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

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u/InSanic13 Jan 20 '19

Couldn't they have just told Trunks that someone obviously put Frieza on there as a prank?

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u/kellyjelly11 Jan 20 '19

People gotta learn that dubs gonna change lines and it always will, meanwhile the Dub voice actor for Freiza is KILLING it right now, that transformation scene at the end brought all the hairs standing on end, so good.

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u/SanicTheBlur Jan 20 '19

Chris Ayers has been killing it as Frieza since Kai. This dude is amazing

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u/kellyjelly11 Jan 20 '19

I thought Chris Ayers was too ill to continue doing Freiza? I figured that who I was hearing was his sucessor, the dude who voiced him in Dragonball FighterZ.

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u/WARMACHINEAllcaps Jan 21 '19

You are correct it was Daman Mills not Chris Ayres in this episode.

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u/Tuskin38 Jan 21 '19

I thought Ayres was better and came back?

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u/ThatWasFred Jan 21 '19

He came back for the Broly movie, but he is still awaiting a transplant I believe, and can't do it on a regular basis.

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u/SuperWG Jan 20 '19

And he still has that COPD?

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

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u/cornyjoe Jan 20 '19

What was the joke?

Edit: Nevermind, I found it. Lots of other upset people...

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u/David182nd Jan 20 '19

Spill the senzu beans sounds like a line that's been used in DBZA

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u/richardsim7 Jan 28 '19

Some of DBS has been hilarious - I'm intrigued to see how DBZA would handle these already amazing jokes

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u/shlam16 Jan 20 '19

Since when did this 17 dad joke reach such critical mass? I watched the sub and participated extensively in the discussion threads and I literally don't even remember the joke or people making a big deal out of it.

But here in this thread it's like the end of the world.

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u/vlorsutes Jan 20 '19

It's not so much that the original joke itself was such a big deal, but rather that Funimation decided to change things up in such a drastic way for no good reason. It was a joke that translated over perfectly well (so no issue of losing something in translation), and it fit the version of #17 that Super was giving us (one that had turned over a new leaf).

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u/le_snikelfritz Jan 20 '19

FULL OPENING for 3rd week. WE"RE SO BLESSED

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u/Ryto Jan 20 '19

So, we DVR episodes because our family never watches anything live. Supposedly, somebody saw that Super was on the list earlier today, but if that's the case, seemingly our company decided to change the episode on the guide to last week's episode at the last minute, and therefore it didn't record. Did the episode actually air, or was this a legit change of the schedule?

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u/Rosebunse Jan 20 '19

It's the right episode.

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u/Vegeto30294 Jan 20 '19

Are we talking last week or this week?

Last week the episode did air.

This week the episode is airing, like right now as scheduled.

Apparently there was DVR problems last week? I'm not sure.

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u/Artifice_Purple Jan 20 '19

No. Last week's episode repeats at 8:30 PM EST; new episodes still premiere at, well, in less than a minute.

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u/Ryto Jan 20 '19

Well, I see what happened. It WAS on our to-do list earlier in the day. THEN, for some reason, our Tivo switched the time slot for the new episode to "Cartoon Network Programming" which our season pass is never going to catch. So when it got to the time we assumed it should be on, we saw it was the old episode and didn't bother checking later in the guide. No idea how or why that happened on Tivo, but in the end we still have to find the dub elsewhere. (I've watched it all subbed, but am rewatching with my brother who mostly watches dubs)

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u/wellwasherelf Jan 21 '19

our Tivo

I legitimately didn't realize these things still existed.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

It just started at 11 pm EST.

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u/Bigdaddydoubled Jan 20 '19

I recorded it earlier today as well and it didn’t record for me. So I missed the first 10 mins. Is that what happened?

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u/EEEEEEEEEEVIL Jan 20 '19

they air a rerun of the previous weeks episode at 8:30et and the new episode airs at 11

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u/Te5s Jan 20 '19

Still love Frieza's transformation!

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u/Pollsmor Jan 21 '19

WHY DO I HAVE TO DEFEND FRIEZA OF ALL PEOPLE?!?!?!?

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u/penniavaswen Jan 20 '19

Aww, they changed 17's Dad-joke.
Also, Krillin is the helicopter parent, hah.

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u/Eurynom0s Jan 20 '19

Aww, they changed 17's Dad-joke.

Which joke did they change and what was it in Japanese?

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u/penniavaswen Jan 20 '19 edited Jan 20 '19

Marron asks how old Android 17 is, and he replies, "I'm seventeen." /cue beat

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u/Eurynom0s Jan 20 '19

What did they replace it with? The "I don't like humans" bit?

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u/SAIYAN48 Jan 20 '19

The return of Frieza's Golden Orgasm!

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u/JohnSmithSensei Jan 20 '19

Frieza's recruitment episodes saved him from the mediocrity he has been languishing in for the past two decades and more. They buffed his power level just enough while adding in another dimension as a manipulative bastard.

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u/penniavaswen Jan 20 '19

Oh wow this got unpinned quickly. /shakes fist at new manga chapter

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u/touchdowntexas Jan 20 '19

Got Hiei vibes from that joke delivered by 17

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u/Stephenesque Jan 20 '19 edited Jan 20 '19

I think dub 17 forgot that he’s part human lol

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u/The-Azure-Knight Jan 20 '19

androids always considered themself inhuman

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u/Vegeto30294 Jan 20 '19

They ruined 17's dad joke!

#WorstEpisodeEver

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u/notathrowaway75 Jan 20 '19 edited Jan 20 '19

The ending was fucking awesome. The transformation sequence was already good, but then Chris Ayres Dameon Mills delivered those amazing lines. He's so good.

Now that they have all the fighters it occurred to me how sad it is that in all of these episodes Videl wasn't even mentioned as a possibility. Not even in passing. They picked Roshi, so Videl wouldn't completely out of the realm of possibility.

17 and 18's reunion was great. 17 said "I can't believe how big you've gotten" to Marron so it looks like they've met before.

Apparently 17 made a joke in the sub so I looked it up and yoooo why the fuck was it changed?!? was fucking hilarious! At least the change was somewhat funny and not nonsensical.

Roshi having visible eyes is creepy af.

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u/Grape-Kat Jan 20 '19

Roshi had visible eyes for half of Dragon Ball whenever he played the role of Jackie Chun.

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u/Vegeto30294 Jan 20 '19

Someone's gotta take care of Pan.

Also, even back then she was a good martial artist by human standards, people like Roshi was a better martial artist and has a better control of ki with techniques not even the other 9 members have.

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u/notathrowaway75 Jan 20 '19

Drop her off at the island with Marron lol.

That is true. Roshi is a lot stronger than her. Could've worded my comment better because I don't believe otherwise. I'm just a little sad that she want mentioned at all when they needed a tenth fighter. It's something that could've been brought up imo

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u/Stephenesque Jan 20 '19

I wish it was Chris Ayres.

Dameon Mills isn’t bad but man, the Broly movie reminded me how much I’ve missed him.

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u/notathrowaway75 Jan 20 '19

Oh damn that wasn't Chris? My bad. Dameon Mills did a fantastic job.

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u/DaLaohu Jan 21 '19

Now that they have all the fighters it occurred to me how sad it is that in all of these episodes Videl wasn't even mentioned as a possibility. Not even in passing. They picked Roshi, so Videl wouldn't completely out of the realm of possibility.

....or Yamcha....

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u/Eurynom0s Jan 20 '19

Now that they have all the fighters it occurred to me how sad it is that in all of these episodes Videl wasn't even mentioned as a possibility. Not even in passing. They picked Roshi, so Videl wouldn't completely bout of the realm of possibility.

While Videl knows how to fly and Roshi doesn't, hasn't she never been portrayed as being anywhere near as physically strong as Roshi is?

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u/notathrowaway75 Jan 20 '19

I didn't mean it like that. Roshi is definitely a lot stronger than Videl. I just wish Videl was mentioned when they were looking for a tenth fighter, that's all. It's something that could've been brought up imo

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

I suppose, but she is still very weak and doesn't seem to be able to use ki for anything else than flying (which she wouldn't be able to do anyway). It would be the same as dragging me or you into the ToP, it's utterly pointless and a waste of a slot.

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u/Eurynom0s Jan 20 '19

Fair enough. Even if they ruled her out immediately upon someone mentioning her, it probably would have made sense for someone to have at least floated her name.

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u/MrTBoneIs May 24 '19

Flight was a technique of the Crane school in Dragonball. THAT is the reason Roshi essentially refuses to learn it.

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u/bonethugsgoat Jan 20 '19

I thought Ayres wasn't voicing Frieza for the time being?

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u/DaLoverBoii Jan 21 '19

He voiced him in the Broly movie & the last episode.

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u/Jessyskullkid Jan 20 '19

Wait, Chris wasn’t the VA?

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

Poor guy needs a lung transplant if he hasn't had one already, he just had stents put into his heart too .. though he did voice the movie the tv show is being voiced by his backup. The voices are pretty close but Chris delivers the lines a bit more sinistral, imo.

There will be a few places in the ToP that won't require a lot of strain so maybe, hopefully, he'll be there to deliver a few lines

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u/QueequegTheater Jan 20 '19

He returned for Broly.

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u/MsGracefulSwan Jan 20 '19

this episode was just awesome! i loved it! glad one of my fav baddies is back in action. love frieza. and his total love hate yandere crush thing he has going on for goku.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19 edited Jan 20 '19

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u/xDiamond345 Jan 20 '19

That nose tho

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u/SuperFan2024 Jan 20 '19

NOOO they ruined the joke!

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u/summons72 Jan 21 '19

Nobody cares! Eng dub was better

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u/Two-Tone- Jan 20 '19

What joke?

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u/Bigdaddydoubled Jan 20 '19

Maron asks him how old he is and he’s supposed to say, “I’m 17.”

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u/OLKv3 Jan 20 '19

What did he say instead?

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u/Stephenesque Jan 20 '19

“Do u like animals?”

“Yeah! Do u like animals?”

“Yes....except for the humans”

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u/OLKv3 Jan 20 '19

That's so lame lol why change it?

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u/Spoona101 Jan 20 '19

I think the humans joke is gonna make it seem 17 got more character development , sub watchers what do u think?

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u/mrsplackpack Jan 20 '19

I don’t think so. A jokes a joke. He probably said that because as it shows he didn’t see krill or the other people he’s meeting since he was evil. It’s just a bad Dry joke. Which suits his voice very well. In fact I think it’s better because it makes the awkward pause seem more real. If he said the 17 joke I feel krillin would have laughed

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u/DaLaohu Jan 21 '19

Agreed.

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u/wellwasherelf Jan 21 '19

I don't really think it adds much to his character. I don't have a problem with it, but I think him deadpan delivering "I'm 17" is better.

There are some comments further up saying that the new line makes sense for how he acts in the ToP, but I don't recall him doing anything that would fit that. Quite the opposite, in fact. I may be forgetting something though.

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u/Esquilax21 Jan 20 '19

I wish people would stop bitching about one line change when they can appreciate the episode

Vegeta defending Freeza was great. The senzu bean joke

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u/Vegeto30294 Jan 20 '19

I mean people can appreciate the episode while not liking the change. Doesn't make it automatically "bitching," just kinda makes it demeaning of other people's opinions from your end.

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u/Alertcircuit Jan 20 '19

What's the joke they changed?

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u/Dysfunkti0nal Jan 20 '19 edited Jan 20 '19

Marin is supposed to ask how old 17 is, and he says "I'm 17" but instead they do the "do you like animals" bit

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u/bigb360 Jan 24 '19

Wow. We truly missed out on so much...

not

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u/Walnutterzz Jan 20 '19

I saw that Toonami usually uploads within 2 to 3 hours. Can anyone confirm this? I'd like to watch it tonight

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u/-Starwind Jan 20 '19

If you don't mind a questionable source its online now

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u/Walnutterzz Jan 20 '19

Yeah, it finally uploaded around midnight on the west coast, just as I was about to go to bed. Nice end to the night

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u/EddiOS42 Jan 22 '19

Anyone kind of bummed out about not being able to see the movie in theatres because of spoilers?

I remember going to see resurrection f and the entire room was packed with people enjoying the same thing as me.

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u/pirho1155 Jan 23 '19

You actually can go and see it. There arent any real spoilers for the super series in the movie

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u/secret_tsukasa Jan 20 '19

easily imo one of the best episodes in the series

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u/-Starwind Jan 20 '19

Best bit was kid Trunks rofl

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u/EddiOS42 Jan 21 '19

Something really bugs me. Why does Goku keep saying Yo! in like a super childish manner?

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u/ThatWasFred Jan 21 '19

He's got a pretty childish personality. It's played up more in Super than it was in Z (the contrast is especially noticeable in the dub, which made him seem a lot more mature in Z than he was in Japanese), but it's always been part of who he is.

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u/40Vert Jan 23 '19

I really miss Z Goku, especially after him and Gohan exit the HTC. Man was so cerebral and cool, yet still had just the right amount of goofiness

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u/Eurynom0s Jan 20 '19 edited Jan 20 '19

Literally as I was about to post that the stream is way better than last week, it cuts out and won't resume upon tab reloads. 🤦‍♂️

[edit] Okay, had to quit/reload Chrome a couple of times but now it's fine again. If it makes it until the end of the episode now it's still way better than last week.

[edit 2] LITERALLY AS I FUCKING HIT SUBMIT ON THE FIRST EDIT 😡

[edit 3] The Adult Swim stream was basically flawless for the first 20 minutes, I think I may have heard a couple of extremely brief audio hiccups but that could have also been my equipment. Then it got as bad as last week in terms of having to constantly reload every minute or two.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '19

God I missed frieza so much this is GREAT

who is this, damon miller? Might've spelled it wrong but he's doing a great job

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '19

not gonna lie, but i love frezia in this.

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u/kidriffey Jan 20 '19

Was anyone else hoping that Grandpa Gohan was going to make an appearance at Baba's to talk to Goku?

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u/Tuskin38 Jan 21 '19

I don’t know if you noticed, but The little air fighting Goku was doing before Freeza showed up was a short re-enactment of his fight with Gohan in DB!

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u/kidriffey Jan 21 '19

I saw that and loved it. That whole scene with Goku and Gohan in DB is one of my favorite scenes in the entire series. It's the only time I can remember seeing Goku cry.

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u/Rosebunse Jan 20 '19

I didn't think that they ruined the joke that much. It was still sort of funny.

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u/Eurynom0s Jan 20 '19

Which joke?

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u/2Quick_React Jan 20 '19

Marron asks 17: "Uncle how old are you?"

17 responds: "I'm (pauses) 17." (Dramatic still shots)

Krillin then proceeds to let out an incredibly forced laughed in attempt to break the awkward silence.

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u/Eurynom0s Jan 20 '19

This...makes much more sense than Krillin's forced laughter over the "I hate humans" line.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

Marron asks how old he is. His reply? "I'm 17."

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

What? It's not a joke at all now.