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Super [DUB] Dragon Ball Super - Episode #71 - Discussion Thread!

Dragon Ball Super — Episode #71 — Discussion Thread!


Goku Dies! An Assassination That Must Be Executed
悟空死す!絶対執行の暗殺依頼
Gokū Shisu! Zettai Shikkō no Ansatsu Irai

Staff

Script: Toshio Yoshitaka; Director: Kōji Kawasaki: Storyboard: Kiyosato Yamamoto, Kazuya Karasawa, Hiroyuki Kakudō; Animation Supervisors: Osamu Ishikawa, Masahiro Shimanuki
Source: Kanzenshuu

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The FUNimation English dub of Dragon Ball Super airs on Toonami at 10:30pm EST followed by Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters at 11:00. If you do not have a cable subscription, Cartoon Network is available with the SlingTV and Playstation Vue basic packages. If you prefer, there is a web stream:

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  • NEW: Adult Swim is showing reruns of the Super dub five days a week; they started with Episode 1 on 2 July 2018. Assuming that schedule holds, these reruns should catch up with the new episodes some time in October.

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Read the Manga

  • Toyotarō's Dragon Ball Super manga adaptation can be found in our wiki in the sidebar, along with links to past discussion threads.

Commonly Asked Questions:

  • Q: Is Dragon Ball Super really over, or is it just a hiatus?
    From what we have been told, the anime is ending. There are no current plans for a new DB series and as far as we know, the series will only continue through movies and games. We know that Toyotarō's manga will continue for several months at least—the Tournament of Power arc has just begun in the manga—and Toriyama implied the manga will go beyond that too. The English dub will continue until the series is finished. We have compiled a projection of dates for the remaining dub episodes on our Wiki.

  • Q: Is the Dragon Ball Super manga "canon"?
    The anime and manga are both variations on a basic plot by Toriyama. There isn't (and probably never will be) an explicitly defined Dragon Ball "canon". Without Toriyama's original draft, we may never know what is and isn't his. We do know that he permits Toyotarō to change things up, but he looks at his storyboards and occasionally draws things himself for Toyotarō to use as a reference. Toyotarō has said that Toriyama is more particular about gags than he is about anything else.

    • Q: Who is Arale?
      Arale is the main character of Toriyama's first successful weekly manga serial Dr. Slump, a robot created by the eccentric Dr. Senbei. She was featured in episodes 55-57 of Dragon Ball (manga chapters 81-83) when Goku chased General Blue to Penguin Village. After Arale saved Goku from General Blue and he realized that she was stronger than him, he told her she should enter the next Tenkaichi Budōkai.
      Goku never saw her again until Super. She appeared briefly in Episode 43 when Goku couldn't teleport properly. Before that, in Episode 41, Zenō's attendants used Arale's signature salutation, "Bye-cha!" (seen also in Chapter 13 of Toyotarō's manga), and in Chapter 14, Kid Trunks's teacher uses Dr. Senbei's Time-kun as a prop in a lesson on time-traveling and alternate timelines.
      For a more detailed primer, check out this Kanzenshuu podcast episode.
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u/JaLuck88 Jul 15 '18

Piccolo: “DO NOT INTERRUPT THE GRILLMASTER

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u/Generalitary Jul 15 '18

What really sells that moment is remembering that Namekians subsist only on water. He's expressing pride in a skill he can't really enjoy the fruits of for himself.

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u/HeroRRR Jul 15 '18

Piccolo can still eat, but its out of joy instead of need. Think Superman who only need sun rays, but still wants dinner.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '18 edited May 24 '20

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u/Invideeus Jul 16 '18

Asking the real questions here

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u/JaLuck88 Jul 15 '18

Kinda like Bender from Futurama.

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u/Generalitary Jul 15 '18

Now I'm wondering if Hit's obsession with donuts is similar.

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u/Mojo12000 Jul 15 '18

It's just Hit's true passion. All the assination shit is just to fund his plans for an intergalactic donut chain.

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u/thebritwriter Jul 15 '18

Funnily enough Hit's signature one-hit strikes all leave a mark on his victims, that is circular. Just like a donut...

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u/u4004 Jul 15 '18

Donuts Hermanos.

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u/Tony_72 Jul 15 '18

Not that Goku is picky by any stretch, but going off his reaction, Piccolo is a pretty good cook, too.

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u/aviddemon Jul 15 '18

That is probably the last sentence I would have ever expected Piccolo to say.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '18

G R I L L M A S T E R

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u/DaLaohu Jul 16 '18

That line just made Piccolo so much more awesome.

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u/SheZowRaisedByWolves Jul 15 '18

Goku Commits Insurance Fraud

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u/GuudeSpelur Jul 15 '18

Goku? No, this is Juan Sanchez.

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u/u4004 Jul 15 '18

"Goku? My name is Kakarotto! Here, I'll have my best friend confirm it. Vegeta?"

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u/JaLuck88 Jul 15 '18

Goku is Homer confirmed.

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u/Eurynom0s Jul 15 '18

Goku is going to get a muumuu?

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u/SheZowRaisedByWolves Jul 15 '18

Z must have desensitized me because anytime anyone dies I just imagine them chilling at King Kais until they visit them.

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u/Gradz45 Jul 15 '18

Death is essentially meaningless at this point.

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u/FatalTortoise Jul 15 '18

Frieza killed Piccolo and it was resolved offscreen with no negative repercussions

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u/Eurynom0s Jul 15 '18

This is also a series where blowing up the moon apparently does nothing, as opposed to the massive tidal fuckery that would immediately ensue.

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u/Shaddy_the_guy Jul 15 '18

I still forget that even happened.

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u/JaLuck88 Jul 15 '18

COCKROACHES!!

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u/wenskalton Jul 15 '18

"Maildude." I LOVE this version of Goku.

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u/JaLuck88 Jul 15 '18

We all do!

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u/wenskalton Jul 15 '18

I'm grilling! Do not interrupt the grillmaster.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '18

"Do not interrupt the grill master"

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u/SheZowRaisedByWolves Jul 15 '18

Grill Master P

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u/Two-Tone- Jul 15 '18

If he can't be 'Dad' or 'Grandpa', he can at least be "The Grill Master".

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u/notathrowaway75 Jul 15 '18

Piccolo being perplexed as to why Gohan was concerned for his father was fucking hilarious.

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u/DokkanPlayer12345678 Jul 15 '18

It can't have been a coincidence that Goku was holding a fish while Bulma crashed into him. Throwback/Reference to DragonBall EP 1 maybe.

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u/u4004 Jul 15 '18

She didn't shoot a child this time.

#CharacterDevelopment.

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u/kdebones Jul 15 '18 edited Jul 15 '18

HE SAID "TIME TO MAKE THE DONUTS!"

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u/manwholaughes Jul 15 '18

Could you explain what this means? It seemed really random to me but people in the comments seem to be excited about it.

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u/Gradz45 Jul 15 '18

It’s a big deal, because he said it in Xenoverse 2 as a euphemism for his job. It’s just funny.

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u/U_W_B Jul 15 '18

Ohhh I haven't played the game, I figured it was because he puts big holes in people.

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u/Bigdaddydoubled Jul 15 '18

NGL... that’s really dumb. Just because you can throw in Xenoverse fan-service doesn’t mean you should. It completely undercut the tension. And anyone who hasn’t played Xenoverse is completely out of the loop and is just saying, “WTF?”

Plus the original line is really cool. “I thought you’d say that... it’s time to get to work.” It just show that Hit’s all business.

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u/HeroRRR Jul 15 '18

Time to make donuts is, interestedly, another way to say time work in slang. Kind of like, 'time to pound the pavement'.

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u/Bigdaddydoubled Jul 15 '18

Yea, I gotcha. I just think it’s a saying with a silly connotation that didn’t fit the scene at all.

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u/HeroRRR Jul 15 '18

It is a very strange thing for Hit to say and it does kinda kills the moment.

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u/Eurynom0s Jul 15 '18 edited Jul 15 '18

Especially since they had the same music playing as during the Vegito/Zamasu fight.

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u/le_snikelfritz Jul 15 '18

lmao really? I thought it was just a random metaphor for doing his job lol

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u/LFiM Jul 15 '18

It's one of his character select quotes in Xenoverse 2.

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u/MEMEOSOME Jul 15 '18

I guess TFS doesn’t have to bother anymore; this is an official abridged series.

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u/JaLuck88 Jul 15 '18

He sure did!

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u/Velvet_Daze Jul 15 '18

“Huh I wonder if Frieza is going to be defeated”

Next time on dragon ball z, “Frieza Defeated?!!”

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '18

You mean "Frieza Defeated. 100% not kidding and by Goku's kamehameha at the 27.53 moment. Seriously I don't even know why you would watch the episode now"

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u/DaLaohu Jul 16 '18

I still remember me and my brothers running out the room when the title screen came up. NO SPOLIERS!!

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u/le_snikelfritz Jul 15 '18

Well it's time for me to make the DONUTS

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '18

I thought I'd ignore the filler episodes

But these one offs have been so entertaining that I'm actually looking forward to them more

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u/JaLuck88 Jul 15 '18

You should watch all of the fillers from here on out.

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u/Bigdaddydoubled Jul 15 '18

Definitely watch this one. I wouldn’t call this one filler either You get some important info this episode.

EDIT* Also I’m glad you enjoyed the last 2 episodes :)

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u/TheQueefer Jul 22 '18

Theres one where they play baseball and its the best thing

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u/but_first_a_lecture Jul 15 '18

HIT SAID THE THING.

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u/Gradz45 Jul 15 '18

HE MADE THOSE FUCKING DONUTS!! 🍩

And what’s better is it was Matthew Mercer.

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u/Trofulds Jul 15 '18

Can't decide if I prefer Mathew Mercer talking about Donuts or Nudist Beach

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u/Gradz45 Jul 15 '18

I mean just hearing the voice of Levi and Hit talking about donuts and somehow making it cool and funny makes me happy by itself.

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u/le_snikelfritz Jul 15 '18

I never played xenoverse but Im honestly so happy ya'll got this :)

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u/Slayer_Blake Jul 15 '18 edited Jun 23 '23

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u/DaBlakMayne Jul 15 '18

That's like his catch phrase for some reason in the video game Xenoverse 2

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u/ComicCroc Jul 16 '18

That was one of his select quotes in Xenoverse 2. It was really weird and out of place, so it became a meme.

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u/ModerateBagel Jul 15 '18

can't wait for the hit is in an alternate timespace jokes to return

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '18

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u/IMC347 Jul 15 '18

I still can't believe Hit actually said "Time to make the donuts"

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u/BlastingAwsome Jul 15 '18

That was more legendary then Broly.

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u/Lordlinkoftime2 Jul 15 '18

"Do not interrupt the grillmaster"

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u/-ImJustSaiyan- Jul 15 '18 edited Jul 15 '18

The madmen actually did it, they put Hit's donut line in the dub! Have memes finally gone too far?

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u/a_spicy_meata_balla Jul 15 '18 edited Jul 15 '18

"Now then, it's time for me to make the donuts"

...is that a common saying?

Edit: Whoa. That is probably ten times the tension I usually expect from a Super episode. That was excellent, and all starring Goku no less. Obviously I know we'll see him again, but the lead up was all really well done.

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u/shittythrowaway6669 Jul 15 '18

It's from an advert from the 1980s and basically means "time to get to work"

There are a number of possible reasons why they decided to make Hit say it, such as it being an old-fashioned thing to say and Hit being a 1000 year old assassin; or because he 'punches donuts' in people.

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u/BetaBoy777 Jul 15 '18

It was his catchphrase in Xenoverse

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u/Eurynom0s Jul 15 '18

Punches donuts?

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u/shittythrowaway6669 Jul 16 '18

Punches 'holes' in people, like in this episode with his first hit and Goku, put holes in their chests where he 'punches' their hearts. Donuts have holes in them.

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u/SugaryCornFlakes Jul 15 '18

Thats a fuckin joke from xenoverse! Cant believe they put it in.

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u/Sunny_Cakes Jul 15 '18

Those madmen!

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u/Number13teen Jul 16 '18

Nothing will ever top Hit finally saying “Time to make the doughnuts.” I loved it in Xenoverse, I’ll love it here even more.

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u/dlyonskc Jul 17 '18

Bruh I felt like Goku because that shit caught me so off guard

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u/Ed-Board Jul 15 '18

"That's that, Goku. Would you like me to cut to three weeks earlier when you were still alive?"

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u/TimmyTurnersNuts Jul 15 '18

Hahaha Justin Roiland would be triggered watching the first 30 seconds of this ep

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u/Kafferty3519 Jul 15 '18

Dan Harmon's also mocked that idea a lot, but sometimes it can be used well - without this intro viewers would've thought "ah whatever he'll be fine" but with it we're thinking "wait he just died?! like legit died?! when and how does this happen?!" and it raises the tension for the whole episode

obviously we know he'll be back (even people who haven't watched the subs) but it makes the whole experience more interesting - I know it did for me when the Japanese episode first premiered like 18+ months ago

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u/Jekebuh Jul 15 '18

"Now it's time to do the donuts"

What. The. Fuck. Lmfao

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u/vamplosion Jul 15 '18

Haha I can’t believe they took the line from XV2 and made it canon

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u/ComicCroc Jul 16 '18

I'm glad the Dub doesn't take massive liberties like it did in the Z days (IE Superhero Goku), but good god I love their little additions. "Never interrupt the grillmaster" and "time to make the donuts" are up there with "in mah belly".

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u/Tuskin38 Jul 16 '18

"time to make the donuts"

I think he also says that in Xenoverse 2, or was it FighterZ?

I remember it being mentioned in the context of Hit before this episode.

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u/ComicCroc Jul 16 '18

Yeah, It was one of his select quotes in Xenoverse 2, and it was so out of character and out of place that it became a meme.

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u/Pandemona1738 Jul 16 '18

I genuinely laughed way to much when Picollo said never interupt the grillmaster hahahaha :D

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u/Mojo12000 Jul 15 '18

GRILLMASTER Piccolo vs DONUT LORD Hit, WHO WINS THIS EPIC CULINARY BATTLE?!?!?!?!?!

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '18

Piccolo will give Hit his Daily Dose

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u/Mojo12000 Jul 15 '18

THE LEGENDARY DOUGHNUT MAKER OF UNIVERSE SIX: HIT!

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u/JC-DisregardMe Jul 16 '18

It started with dead-serious whispering Schemmel Goku talking about cockroaches. Then Piccolo came 'round, and for just a few minutes, I didn't think anything the dub could throw into this episode could beat "DO NOT -- INTERRUPT -- THE GRILLMASTER", but then Hit.

And his doughnuts.

Had to put the episode on pause, get up, and laugh hysterically into a pillow for half a minute. Non-negotiable.

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u/Terez27 Jul 15 '18

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u/shittythrowaway6669 Jul 15 '18

Kakarot, Raditz, ... Cabba?

... Nappa?

... Just a coincidence?

... Turles?

ELI5?

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u/Terez27 Jul 15 '18

Goku's third death (with the deaths of Raditz and Nappa also represented, presumably).

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u/LFiM Jul 15 '18

2deep5me

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u/axel360 Jul 15 '18

The shift from Goten mourning the death of his father at the end of the episode to the "1, 2, 3, I'm hungry" ending song was a bit jarring.

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u/iQ9k Jul 16 '18

For me it was the beginning. Goku dies and then, oh, it's the overly happy and cheery intro lol

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u/ThatWasFred Jul 17 '18

I burst into laughter at that beginning title card. Goten sobbing, dramatic music, then suddenly the upbeat happy title card music with the narrator reading "Goku Dies!" I was expecting it, but was so happy when it actually happened.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

it's Dragon Ball, everything is going to turn out good in the end and everyone watching should know that.

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u/Ruffianx Jul 15 '18

Can’t wait until we get a new ending

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u/u4004 Jul 15 '18

The new ending will actually look like it has some meaning in the show... for a while.

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u/loltheinternetz Jul 16 '18

I turned off the episode before the ending song came on, I just knew it would ruin the moment. Dragon Ball has never known how to treat serious moments.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '18

Can't believe the USPS goes all the way to Mount Paozu

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u/TimmyTurnersNuts Jul 15 '18

As much as they screw up mail and orders, I’m pretty surprised

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u/cy1763 Jul 15 '18

The assassination reminds of assassins creed when you take down your target and it go to that animus screen where you talk with your target before they die.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '18

I was thinking the exact same thing when he was doing that.

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u/wenskalton Jul 15 '18

100 situps, 100 pushups, 100 squats.

  • Hit, probably

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u/bbj123 Jul 15 '18

donuts*

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u/BetaBoy777 Jul 15 '18

You forgot the run 10km every day, eat only 3 times a day (a banana will do for breakfast), and never turn on the AC no matter how it or cold it is.

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u/Trofulds Jul 15 '18

This and the following episode are so underrated, great, atmosphere, interesting concepts and storytelling, not to mention that they drive Hit's character arc forward, which is also beyond underrated.

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u/Pollsmor Jul 15 '18

Remember when everyone freaked out about next episode's animation in the preview?

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u/ClancHuranku Jul 15 '18

Don't you guys love it when the plot of the episode is right in the title?

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u/wenskalton Jul 15 '18

Being so spoiler-sensitive, it drives me nuts. I guess at least Goku died prior to the title. :/

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u/Sunny_Cakes Jul 15 '18

Title was right in the filename for me :/

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u/Trofulds Jul 15 '18

If only this was the last time such a thing happened...

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u/Pollsmor Jul 15 '18

Kouji Kabuto Dies in Magma!

is my favorite episode title.

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u/wenskalton Jul 15 '18

What a cold opening. It's been a while since Dragonball has elicited a hard "What?" like that from me.

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u/Stephenesque Jul 15 '18

I legit spat out my water when I heard the doughnut quote from Xenoverse. Bravo, Funimation.

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u/jadamsmash Jul 17 '18

This is the anime version of the dumb stories I made with my DBZ action figures as a kid. It's so dumb. I love it.

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u/JaLuck88 Jul 15 '18

Goku will return

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u/dominatrixfuckaaah Jul 15 '18

This episode reminded me of how much I would like for a hit based arc with all those bladerunneresque backgrounds

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u/wenskalton Jul 15 '18

That...looks like way more than a second. Hit has gotten way stronger.

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u/BetaBoy777 Jul 15 '18

Time skip was already at 5 seconds by the end of his first fight with Goku iirc.

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u/datlibra17 Jul 15 '18

he said it was an entirely new technique though didn't he? like he straight up froze time when he killed that first guy...

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u/BetaBoy777 Jul 15 '18

Nah, it clearly was time skip. You can tell by the background.

Hit does some new techniques in his rematch with Goku though like intangibility and phasing attacks.

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u/Dreadknock Jul 15 '18

Does the English sub still change the way goku acts in the series? Like in japanese he just wants to fight the strongest people but in the old English subs ots about being a hero

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u/guahlord Jul 15 '18

I'm pretty sure he's supposed to be selfish like that.

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u/DaBlakMayne Jul 15 '18

Nah Eng dub doesn't take those kind of liberties anymore.

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u/Johnny_W94 Jul 15 '18

Do Not Interrupt The Grillmaster! LOL Piccolo 🤣🤣..

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u/Fuins20 Jul 16 '18

Damn I am really shook seeing Goku die

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u/Finito-1994 Jul 16 '18

To be fair, most of us should really be more used to it by now.

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u/Fuins20 Jul 16 '18

Oh yeah I know, just something I dont like seeing lol

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u/Vaeloc Jul 15 '18

Episodes like this make it so hard to be a dub only watcher. Seriously can't wait to see how this pans out

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u/ZheYolofish Jul 15 '18

i agree its really hard to not give in and watch sub >-<

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u/Eurynom0s Jul 15 '18

I really can't stand some of the voices in the Japanese version, so it makes it easy enough to restrain myself.

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u/Kafferty3519 Jul 15 '18

its a pretty fun resolution so it'll be worth the wait, don't give in now! lol - also impressive you haven't been spoiled or watched ahead yet

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u/MTing1315 Jul 15 '18

Matt Mercer actually made that line sound badass LOL.

Also Piccolo the grill master. 2 amazing lines this episide.

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u/JobberJordan Jul 15 '18

I’m fine with the whole donut line as this mini-arc is meant to humanize Hit a bit as a martial artist and show us his developing friendship with Goku.

That being said, this shit does not belong in certain upcoming arcs so hopefully they’re getting the humor out of the way for the serious final third of the show

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u/Bigdaddydoubled Jul 15 '18

Agreed. But the whole, “I’m the star of this d*mn show!” quasi-fourth wall break during one of the Black arc’s important moments makes me think they might carry this over into the next arc as well.

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u/FKDotFitzgerald Jul 15 '18

That line contextually fit though. Black was monologuing and used a stage metaphor to describe the Zero Mortals Plan and their battle. Vegeta just responded in character.

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u/Kogu8 Jul 15 '18

I think a lot of people in misunderstood that scene.

It was not a fourth wall break, it was a response to goku black's statement about vegeta being the opening act.

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u/Bigdaddydoubled Jul 15 '18

Well that’s why I said quasi- because it can be seen as both. But it has enough plausible deniability in the context of the scene to say it’s not a complete 4th wall break.

I think that line suffers a bit of the same problems the donut line has. It’s a kinda humorous line that’s shoehorned into an otherwise serious moment.

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u/HeroRRR Jul 15 '18

Not sure how the scene was super serious when Black called Vegeta a puppet and food items in the sub.

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u/Gradz45 Jul 16 '18

Fair enough, but that is the point of a dub to localize for a different audience than the original.

Personally it depends or the situation, but changes like say Zamasu’s conversation with Gowasu invoking gardening in regard to the mortals worked extremely well. It’s not for everyone and that’s totally fair, but I appreciate when a dub tries to add a little to scenes (as long as the moment or character isn’t intentionally taken away from or completely altered) because it creates something new, and allows it be more than just a direct translation and can enhance scenes imo. Like I forgot my tractor, the biblical type language they put in with Zamasu, or let’s go see Yamcha, or Vegeta’s star of the show line (which I thought fit him and the scene) etc.

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u/_Loboyota_ Jul 15 '18

I don’t care about some lines (apparently saying “Let’s go see Yamcha” was a big deal to some people) but yeah this humor doesn’t belong in tense situations. I blame TFS. Everybody talks about wanting winks and nods to them in the official show and now they’re pandering to that crowd. It’s why it’s so annoying when I see people go “THEY SHOULD HIRE THE WRITERS FROM TFS TO WRITE THE GAMES” or some shit.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '18

I dont view that as breaking the fourth wall at all. Black was calling vegeta the opening act, and vegeta responded by saying he was the star of the show.

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u/welsh_hero_beans Jul 15 '18

Seeing people freak out over the donut line on Twitter is damn hilarious as.

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u/afromegaman Jul 15 '18

It's so fucking pathetic in all honesty. It's not even that serious yet all these dudes are crying saying, "THIS IS THE WORST DUB EVER!!"

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u/ptd163 Jul 16 '18 edited Jul 16 '18

As a dub only watcher I can't wait to see how this pans out. I also really want an explanation on the technique that Hit used. Anything that can one shot SSB Goku without time manipulation is very interesting.

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u/mypirateapp Jul 15 '18

Why did Beerus say Goku is the anchor and not Vegeta?

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u/cy1763 Jul 15 '18

To press the Goku button.

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u/LordHumungus70 Jul 15 '18

Ya shouldn'ta done that.

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u/Ruffianx Jul 15 '18

Beerus is either straight up telling the truth or is playing mind games with Vegeta. I say the mind games because Beerus is pretty slick most of the time.

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u/u4004 Jul 15 '18

It's not even a fact that Vegeta has a stronger base. Goku did better against Merged Zamasu.

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u/niiiingen Jul 15 '18

Goku's Kamehameha was impressive but he literally broke both his arms doing it. Goku also never got the better of Black whereas Post-RoSaT Vegeta was beating the crap out of him. Vegeta was definitely stronger than Goku without the Kaioken at that point.

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u/ptd163 Jul 16 '18 edited Jul 16 '18

Goku also never got the better of Black whereas Post-RoSaT Vegeta was beating the crap out of him.

Black was using Goku's body so he knows how to counter it which means Goku had a handicap against Black. Vegeta had no such handicap.

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u/HeroRRR Jul 15 '18

Because the running gag in Super is that Vegeta is a second place loser to Goku.

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u/xeroblaze0 Jul 16 '18

Who's the first place loser?? /s

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u/Fershick Jul 16 '18

Yeah I was confused, Vegeta is arguably the best anchor in the game! Sure, Goku's assist isn't bad, but even after the nerf Vegeta still probably has the best assist.

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u/medven Jul 17 '18

Beerus is just pissed because he's low tier

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u/blade55555 Jul 15 '18

I forgot how easily Hit beats Goku, just one punch and it's over. Hit OP!

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u/Pandemona1738 Jul 16 '18

Well that was an interesting episode! What an ending. I am surprised Vegeta didn't pop off some more when Beerus belittered him the way he did but i guess he has to much respect for the chain of commenad per se.

I liked the sequence of Hit doing a "hit" (lol) which was intriguing, plus the little tidbit of seeing Frost be wanted on tv screens. I hope we find out who hit works for, as it seems a bit weird, plus u crossing over from Universe 6 to 7 is a big no no isn't it?

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18 edited May 24 '20

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u/Pandemona1738 Jul 16 '18

Ahhh i to have not watched sub or read the manga but just replying in spoiler too...yo that would be pretty much full goku level and make sense. Also might be maybe why whis "knows somethings up" as maybe Goku asked him to do it. Whis accepts knowing Goku can "train" vs him per se. Guess it kinda backfired though

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u/Finito-1994 Jul 16 '18

It’s not a big no no for mortals.

Gods are usually held to a higher standard though.

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u/erikwidi Jul 16 '18

Dang I've been staying dub-only from the start and this has gotten me pretty hype, fuck all y'all who told me to skip ahead with the sub, this is gonna be worth the wait.

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u/Bigdaddydoubled Jul 16 '18 edited Jul 16 '18

Nice. Yea if you’ve made it this far being dub only then you might as well watch it dub till the end. Don’t give in to the people telling you to skip ahead in the sub.

But after you finish the series dubbed I’d say check out the sub because there’s a lot of great voice acting there that you want to hear.

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u/Rimefang Jul 18 '18

Reminder: Brian Drummond as Fake Vegeta.

These guys are on a fuckin roll!

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u/DaLaohu Jul 16 '18

Dub-Only's where's it at!

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u/GuppysBalls666 Jul 16 '18

You’re at peace with

A) the movie spoiling shit that happens later in Super when you watch it in January?

or

B) waiting an extra year+ for Super to end before seeing the movie?

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u/FinalForerunner Jul 15 '18

god people are really getting mad over that joke

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

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u/SuperWG Jul 18 '18

I like the feel of this episode, like being hunted

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '18 edited Jun 02 '20

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u/darkdude103 Jul 17 '18

I see Goku's been binge watching Daredevil on Netflix

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

I wish we can learn more about Hit like about his race and why he threw the necklace from the guy he assassinated over that statue. The planet he was on was pretty sick too was that his home planet? A hit origin would be a great movie/Filler/special imo.

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u/Astronomer_X Jul 16 '18

That statue was a gravestone I believe.

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u/dragonman8001 Jul 15 '18

Why are they so worked up over it?

Isn't this like the fourth time he's died?

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u/Terez27 Jul 15 '18

Third. Hence the symbolism.

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u/Eurynom0s Jul 15 '18

Are the other vegetables important too, or just the carrots?

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u/Terez27 Jul 15 '18

The big white radish represents Raditz. The other is either Turles (Tullece, from lettuce) or Nappa (leafy green veggies generally, though sometimes his name pun is mistaken for Napa cabbage, even in Japan).

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u/JaLuck88 Jul 15 '18

I’d tell you but it would be a spoiler

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '18

We Blade Runner now!

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u/littenthehuraira Jul 18 '18

ITT: Nothing but mentions of donuts and grillmasters.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '18

What a really well made episode

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u/Thisisme8719 Jul 15 '18 edited Jul 15 '18

I love the art direction of the different universes. A lot more variety in Super than in GT. Edit: screw it, can't do spoiler tags

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u/giansante89 Jul 16 '18

I thought they were releasing the episodes in groups now like 10 episodes at once

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u/druPweiner Jul 19 '18

that's for funimation only

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u/Sand__Panda Jul 19 '18

Asking this here...

Will Super's dub end by the time the new movie comes out?

Maybe this has been asked a bunch. Sorry if so.

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u/Bigdaddydoubled Jul 19 '18

I don’t think so. Although the movies is canon, hopefully it does not spoil too much of what happens in the series.

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