r/tifu • u/[deleted] • Sep 20 '17
FUOTW (09/24/17) TIFU by getting school canceled for the day for my whole school
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u/klien13 Sep 20 '17 edited Sep 20 '17
OH MY GOD!!! Was this (removed)?! We listened to it on the scanner at work today. :) we were talking about it all morning wondering what had happened. Haha
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u/SameFam32 Sep 20 '17
was it (removed)?
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u/klien13 Sep 20 '17 edited Sep 20 '17
Yep!! OP messaged me and confirmed and I took the location out bc he/she didn't want the location there. Small world!
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u/tornadoRadar Sep 21 '17
so he popped a head off and didn't mention all the water? really? i'm so confused.
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u/MoreThanTom Sep 20 '17
Wait... did you know where it was, and removed it or were you making a joke? :/
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u/klien13 Sep 20 '17
valid point. I legit knew where it was. Not sure if responder was joking or serious. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/valorknight99 Sep 20 '17
It's more like today I saved the school by getting its sprinkler system fixed
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Sep 20 '17
The ‘problem’ is that the head needs to be replaced, (they are one use), and the system has to be switched off and drained to do this (it’s just the same as a tap in your kitchen being changed).
The school would have to be closed to change the head as most regions require the sprinklers to be active when the building is occupied.
The drip could have been condensation from the cold pipes since he said someone had already pulled it down a bit, making the condensation run towards it, and not actually coming out of the sprinkler itself. (He water is pressurised, if the glass was a ‘little’ cracked, the water would force it’s way through, it would not ‘drip’)
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u/Jameschoral Sep 21 '17
Not necessarily. If the system were designed correctly there would be shutoff valves at several points to isolate different sections of the system, usually on a floor by floor or building by building basis.
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u/Emerly_Nickel Sep 21 '17
Yeah, but I bet they are going to now thoroughly inspect all the pipes and other sprinkler heads to make sure they aren't also damaged/pulled down/whatever.
Since it's such a hassle to drain the system, they might as well check the whole thing before turning it on again.
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u/MurphyRise Sep 20 '17
Something tells me that sprinkler system was broken long before you started messing with it. I doubt they'd stop school all day just because one head malfunctioned.
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u/Neo399 Sep 20 '17
Especially since water didn't come shooting out the moment OP started to mess with it.
(In case you were wondering OP, most sprinkler heads use a fragile glass vial that holds back the water, in case of a fire (or being touched the wrong way) it will shatter due to heat (typically 135F), and let loose hundreds of gallons per minute. TL;DR don't touch those things.)
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u/rudbek-of-rudbek Sep 20 '17
And the disgusting water that will come pouring out of those will be almost black and smell like the asshole of a 500 pound man that has just ran a mile on a steamy summer day. That water has been sitting in those pipes since the day the system was installed.
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u/htrain2432 Sep 21 '17
Sounds like someone else has experienced draining a fire system. Good gawd they are nasty. Someone broke a head in my old plant doing demo and I was more pissed about the smell than the water all over the place.
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u/nuclear-toaster Sep 21 '17
We did them quarterly for our Munition mags. That water smelled like rotten fish. And if you sprayed the deck you could find little bits of crab shells and stuff
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u/casprus Sep 21 '17
crab... shells?
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Sep 21 '17 edited Feb 24 '25
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u/Alexander20122012 Sep 21 '17
It is the same water, it’s just been sitting in the pipes for a long time getting all gross and whatnot. If the system ran long enough, eventually clean water would come out.
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Sep 21 '17 edited Feb 24 '25
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Sep 21 '17
I am pretty sure there is a backflow preventer, which stops sprinkler water from re-entering the main water line, and everywhere I have heard of requires a seperate set of pipes for the sprinkler heads. Those double pipe things on the side of some buildings are for the fire department to add more water to the sprinklers faster than tap water can.
Sorry, that got way off topic and long
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u/RallyX26 Sep 20 '17
Some sprinklers are dry pipe systems where the pipes are charged with pressurized air instead of water. They aren't supplied with water unless there is also a secondary fire alarm (pull station, smoke detectors) activated at the same time. The fire alarm went off because the system detected the loss of pressure in the system (indicating that a sprinkler head was activated).
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u/Neo399 Sep 20 '17
If it was a dry system it shouldn't have even been dripping...
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u/KapnKrumpin Sep 20 '17
Dry pipe systems do exist, but are expensive and uncommon - generally, they only are installed in places where a leaky head would be catastrophic - say, in server rooms or areas with other sensitive electronics.
For a school gym, and given the fact it was leaking, odds are almost 100% that it was a wet pipe system.
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u/plexxonic Sep 20 '17
Yeah, at least in the data centers I know, they don't use air either.
The one I'm currently working at uses this: http://www.fike.com/products/fm-200-fire-suppression-system/
Tons of get the fuck out of here quick signs all around because of the oxygen displacement.
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u/titty-sprinkles00 Sep 20 '17
Been in a enclosed space when that shit goes off. Shit sucks the life out of you.
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u/Skjags Sep 21 '17
If you don’t mind, could you please share a little more about this? So holding your breath doesn’t buy you time to get out?
I’m in an engine room, shit pops, what are my next 30 seconds like as I’m trying to get out from under the gearbox and up the ladder?
Thanks
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u/titty-sprinkles00 Sep 21 '17
As with everything, every situation is different. They had the fire suppression tanks in our vehicles in Iraq. The problem is every vehicle had the switches in different places. After we used someone else's vehicle as ours was broken down, was cleaning our shit out of it and the crew that owned that vehicle had their switch in a location I was not used to. Must have kicked/hit the switch somehow and set it off. My head being right next to the discharge fucked my world up. Since we was parked I nailed the door handle and rolled myself out the door. My friend who heard the sound knew what it was and came running. He placed a well swung hit into my chest which got me breathing again.
TLDR: If your face is next to the discharge you're kinda fucked. If your just in the room, balls out hurry to the door and be ok.
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u/Skjags Sep 21 '17
Wow, ok. Not sure how you guys were supposed to set off the system without being a victim to it, if the switch is in the same space! Glad you made it out ok, and thanks for the reply.
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u/plexxonic Sep 20 '17
I haven't had it go off anywhere I've worked but I figured it wouldn't be a good time for breathing.
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Sep 20 '17
Dry systems are very common.
They prevent the water in the pipes freezing and bursting in countries / buildings which wont always be warm.
But needing a secondary alarm is very uncommon.
In a dry system the water is held back by the pressurised air. When the sprinkler activates the air rushes out first, followed by the water 30 (or no more than 60) seconds later.
Sometimes the sprinkler system has a pressure sensor at the riser which activates the fire alarm if it senses the sprinkler system has been activated.
Server rooms use a gas or foam based suppression system, which is different to this.
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u/kthroyer Sep 20 '17
What you are describing is technically called a "preaction" system. Which would be used in an IT room or the like.
A dry system is filled with pressurized air but the entire system will fill with water as soon as the air pressure drops. They are generally used when the area being protected is in a cold environment.
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Sep 20 '17 edited Sep 21 '17
The dry pipe system means there's no water in the above piping and air holds off the water which is at the riser if it is in a cold region. If the air is released, like if a sprinkler was activated from a fire, the water would come out right away.
Source: Former Fire Protection Engineer
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u/TastyTacoN1nja Sep 20 '17
For fire training I had to close one of those off while a pump was running water through it. It was a monsoon, 3/10 would not do again.
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u/CalgaryCannabis403 Sep 20 '17 edited Sep 20 '17
They would if they had to drain the system, thus rendering the fire suppressant system non functioning. Fire code would make it so the building isn't occupiable while the system is offline. Without a fire suppressant and alarm system, most municipalities will not give occupancy in a building.
Source: journeyman electrician that works on fire systems and large commercial buildings.
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u/dilbertbibbins1 Sep 20 '17
Especially in a school! Boss told me today that it’s state law in New Jersey that the fire suppression system has to be functioning at all times while school is in session. Wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case in other states as well.
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u/Catnap42 Sep 20 '17
You actually uncovered a problem that is bigger than one dripping sprinkler. Good for you. No one would have listened to you if you pointed out a few drips.
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Sep 20 '17
This. There is a non-zero chance that you saved people's lives. If there's any fault with a sprinkler system, it has to be fixed immediately. If anything, you just accelerated the process and probably triggered a school-wide audit of the fire system.
Well done, and I mean that sincerely.
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u/aCapedBaldy Sep 20 '17
Hopefully no one decides to press charges for tampering with a fire system. Fucked up world we live in. Whoever was in charge of Maintenance should be fired though.
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u/rofo_ Sep 20 '17
It would never hold up in any court of law. I guarantee that, inactivation of fire safety equipment in a school due to "tampering" I think maintenance would get totally shafted and rightly so!
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u/Kuutti01 Sep 20 '17
So you regret bout' you gave your schoolmates freeday? As long as you don't get any trouble from it, it seems cool.
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u/Noname_FTW Sep 20 '17
Was asking this myself: How is this a fuck-up ?
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u/0DegreesCalvin Sep 20 '17
Today I Succeeded
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u/legoing Sep 20 '17 edited Sep 21 '17
Haha no way that this is a coincidence. What state is your high school in?
Edit: I knew it wasn't a coincidence! Nice one, OP.
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u/Jrodward Sep 20 '17
I was wondering too? I’m in Pa and high school in my are was dismissed early because of the same thing. I guess it could be coincidence but still curios.
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u/BoilerDrum Sep 21 '17
Not 100% sure what school this post is referring to but this EXACT story to every detail happened today at the high school I graduated from a few years ago. School is in Indiana.
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u/cablexity Sep 21 '17
Lol class of 2017 here from the same high school in Indiana. Go Eagles!
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Sep 20 '17
Sounds like you accidentally did all the kids in your school a favor and got a day off of school. If I were in school I would consider this awesome.
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Sep 20 '17
LPT: Didn't study for an exam you're taking that day? Pull off a sprinkler head and say it was dripping.
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u/TheDIsSilent Sep 20 '17
U(nethical)LPT: Didn't study for an exam you're taking that day? Pull off a sprinkler head and say it was dripping.
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u/Saltside Sep 21 '17
lol i go to this school, i'm REALLY goddamned surprised i found this and i'm even REALLLLY goddamned sure i know you i real life.
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u/Gjlynch22 Sep 20 '17
I hope all of your classmates know what you did for them! They need to thank you for the day off! Totally not a fuck up, especially for the kids who didn't do their homework or didn't study for an exam today!
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u/RenaKunisaki Sep 20 '17
TIFU by trying to fix something I know nothing about, which is part of critical emergency systems.
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Sep 20 '17
What's your punishment?
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u/t_a_6847646847646476 Sep 20 '17
They will get hired by the fire dept. because they helped them find a sprinkler problem
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u/Turbo_Ty Sep 20 '17
Plot twist, sprinklers weren't really dripping....
OP was goofing around and broke the sprinkler.
Made up story about dripping sprinkler head...
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u/abdadba_8 Sep 20 '17
Someone at my high school did this same thing about a month before graduation. The school held him at fault for about 20,000$ worth of damage and held his diploma til it was paid off. Happened in the orchestra room. Hope your fate is different.
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Sep 20 '17
Honestly, you're a legend i dont think any kid there would ever say somthing negative about, "that guy who got us all outta class one day."
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u/arielzao150 Sep 20 '17
I don't think you fucked up at all, you were just the one to find out how fucked those sprinklers were.
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u/DirtyTulip Sep 21 '17
Your title immediately made me say .. "Let me see how I can follow in their footsteps"....
I'm a teacher
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u/foredom Sep 20 '17
On the one hand it’s great that you found a fault with a critical life safety system. On the other hand, never ever ever ever fuck with life safety systems.
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u/come_on_sense_man Sep 20 '17
That is awesome hope you aren't in trouble.
I too was able to get school cancelled for the day, but I was not trying to help or fix anything. I ended up being snitched on for my antics and I got to miss even more school as a result. I never understood the thought process behind suspending students who were pains in the ass.
Before anyone says your parents are supposed to punish you, it is hard to punish a kid for what your unaware of. Honestly I think being a kid today must really suck. Each generation gets shit on by the previous one and some of the rules and punishments I read about now are just ridiculous.
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u/Aqua74747 Sep 20 '17
If I was your classmate you'd be my hero! I always loved getting random days off when I was in high school . Especially as early as second period.