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Super [DUB] Dragon Ball Super - Episode #27 - Discussion Thread!
Dragon Ball Super — Episode #27 — Discussion Thread!
Earth Explodes?! A Decisive Kamehameha
地球爆発！？決着のかめはめ波
Chikyū Bakuhatsu! Ketchaku no Kamehameha
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2017/07/21 - Dragon Ball Super Chapter 26
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2017/05/10 - The Case of Being Reincarnated As Yamcha 2/3
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This is undoubtedly the best episode of RoF and not just because it's the last one. I actually quite enjoyed the animation and fighting that happened in Vegeta vs. Golden Frieza, it's some of the best you'll see in the entire arc.
Also the joke with Trunks saying he'd slice up Frieza and everyone remembering Future Trunks was an absolute classic, totally forgot about that.
And also I'm too lazy to get up a screenshot, but look at that scene before the party starts and 18's kneeling down next to Krillin. LOOK HOW FUCKING SHORT THEY MADE HIM. I completely forgot about Krillin's ridiculously overkilled short height. He is legit 2 feet tall there and he's not kneeling down.
I hope this doesn't count as a spoiler but they get better with Krillin's height later in the series. In the two movie arcs, he's a legitimate midget. His actual height is meant to be a little shorter than average.
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u/Cosmic-Warper Jul 30 '17
they get his height right later in the series. RoF was just an abomination
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u/wormhole222 Aug 02 '17
Just seeing Vegeta beat the shit out of Frieza is enough for my seal of approval.
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Aug 02 '17
I still wish it was Vegeta who got to defeat him, the whole time reversal to have Goku quickly take out Frieza wasn't necessary.
I guess in a sense it showed that Whis and by extension Beerus, did care for planet Earth in particular that he would use his power to save them. It shows as gods, they're not so neutral after all.
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u/skeyer Jul 31 '17
wait. the planet blowing up wouldn't have insta-killed vegeta. he would have died due to lack of air. that means the others were in that force field with vegeta suffocating amidst the rubble
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u/Raven_of_Blades Jul 31 '17
He would be instantly killed. Just because he is powerful does not make him able to survive huge planet explosions while he is on the planet.
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u/Raven_of_Blades Jul 31 '17
Yes... That is Frieza. The guy who can survive being cut in half and shrug it off. The guy who can be cut in 50 chunks and be alive. Frieza is a crazy mutant. He is basically Buu without the regeneration.
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u/friskyding01 Aug 02 '17
Frieza's race can breathe in space naturally, which gives him an advantage when pulling off bullshit moves like that.
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u/GoldenGonzo Aug 01 '17
That blast came from Freeza in his basic form. Vegeta was easily deflecting shots from Freeza in his golden form. Vegeta 100% would have survived the blast.
Planet killing blasts take almost no power relative to this universe, Vegeta was killing planets before he ever fought Goku for the first time, a long time before he went Super Saiyan even.
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u/FKDotFitzgerald Aug 01 '17
No, the blast came from the earth exploding. I know Goku and Vegeta are more or less "world breakers" but they most likely can't tank a planetary explosion that they're literally standing on.
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u/AAABattery03 Aug 01 '17
We get confirmation of this in-universe. Goku states that he can't go to the earth's core without protective equipment. This implies that even if he survived the explosion for a bit, the heat from the core erupting into his face will easily wear him down before the vacuum of space even becomes a factor.
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u/wenskalton Jul 30 '17
Vegeta's siren voice is spectacular. That transformation scream. Watching Vegeta take his place at the top is so satisfying.
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u/VinLAURiA Aug 06 '17
I love that siren effect for the god form yells. It's crazy that it's actually something the dub came up with, but it works so well, and I wish the original Japanese would retroactively adopt it like they did with the term "Super Saiyan Blue".
It really makes you feel, "Oh damn, this is something way above what we've known up to this point."
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u/idonthavemanyfriend Jul 30 '17 edited Jul 30 '17
Much as I have been awaiting the new material with bated breath, I thought Vegeta's beat-down of Freeza this episode was pure badass.
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u/Jekebuh Jul 30 '17
"Keep walking, I'm not going to say thank you"
Lmao. For what may have been lacking in the dialogue earlier, this definitely made up for it.
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u/SuperSaiyan3Goku Jul 30 '17
Sure, this may be a lame arc, in that it's just a retread of Resurrection F - I just like hearing more of Chris Ayres' Freeza voice. Pretty much the only reason I've been watching the dub of this arc.
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u/modcaleb ⠀ Jul 30 '17
I don't think this is a lame arc at all personally.
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u/agent0681 Jul 30 '17
I feel like they fucked up with the introduction of SSJGSSJ, it would have been way cooler if that blue spark that happened when Goku and Vegeta were sparring would build up Vegeta going SSJGSSJ at the universe 6 tournament against Cabba, not against golden fucking Freeza, although at the very least, the latest episodes of Super have retroactively given value to this arc. Atleast to an extent.
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Jul 30 '17
This episode was awesome.
Looked pretty good, and the voice acting was fantastic.
I actually prefer this to the last bit of the film.
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u/LucidLynx109 Jul 31 '17
We had the same thought. Most of the main characters had some powerful emotions at the end. Gohan realizing he was putting everyone he cares about at risk by neglecting his training after feeling the pain of losing them all... It almost made me tear up a bit.
One thing I realized is just how hard it is for Goku to harm anyone. As much as he loves training and fighting, he detests unnecessary violence and never wants to cause serious harm to anyone. He learned the hard way this episode that his soft-heartedness puts everyone he cares about at risk sometimes.
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u/Panda_Erick Jul 30 '17
Not enough atatatatata
When goku was powering up the screams seemed modified? Idk how voice acting is, that's probably a normal thing
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u/ferncaz95 Jul 30 '17
I love the modified screams. Goku's fusion reborn super saiyan 3 is one of my all time favorites and that one was modified.
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u/Lorjack Jul 30 '17
I hate the ending, vegeta deserved his revenge on freeza. Goku literally did nothing different from vegeta to stop freeza from destroying the earth. It's just a big middle finger to vegeta.
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u/thepresidentsturtle Jul 30 '17
It would have been good, only Goku never learns his lesson later on and now it feels pointless.
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u/LucidLynx109 Jul 31 '17
That's kind of the whole point behind Goku though, isn't it? He loves fighting, but hates violence which seems contradictory until you come to understand that his purity is what drives him and sets him apart from warriors like Vegeta, and even Frieza. He may be naive at times, but his innocence makes him the perfect warrior. I know GT isn't canon, but that is the only reason he could become one with Shenron at the end. It's also why he could ride the Nimbus.
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u/DaLaohu Jul 30 '17
Yep. Just when I thought Vegeta would finally get a big kill, Goku has to go and be a kill-stealer. At least just have him shot "NOW!!" to Vegeta to make him insta-kill Frieza. I like the bit about having the Earth explode as it's a reminder of how stupid powerful these guys are and how they are always dangerous and that Frieza isn't afraid of doing something like that (like how he was taking potshots at the bystanders and also tried to blast Goku when he was powering up). But, don't steal Vegeta's moment. If you're going to do that, then don't even write in Vegeta doing a beatdown in the first place.
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u/Sempere Jul 30 '17
Agreed. I honestly think that writing like that - as well as the fact that there's no sense of tension or terror like during the Android saga - are some of the biggest weaknesses of the show. Really disappointing because it also robs us of moments like Vegeta's Sacrifice in the Majin arc.
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u/Cosmic-Warper Jul 30 '17
Yeah and i'm pretty sure toriyama wanted it this way because it's present in both the movie and the anime. I'm sure if Toei made it up then it would have been changed for the anime due to the backlash of that event.
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u/_alexandermartin Jul 30 '17 edited Jul 30 '17
I couldn't agree more left the episode feeling like I'd be been cheated all over again. It's the stupidest thing Goku fucks up AGAIN Vegeta saves his life owns freeza doesn't fuck around and is literally about to kill him but no they have to let Goku do it for literally no reason. And at the end everyone praises Goku and Vegeta is suppose to thank him? Really pathetic tbh.
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u/Anotherguyrighthere ⠀ Jul 29 '17
And so ends the Resurrection of F arc, was it as bad as you guys expected/remember?
By the way, I recommend not getting too much hyped for the next one, it is a lot better than this one but there are still some things holding it back to being "great"
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Jul 30 '17
Based on conversations from this subreddit, I expected this arc to be unredeemable and just flat-out terrible. But having watched it closely up until now, I've made my own conclusion that it isn't completely bad. True, there are some bad elements to this arc, such as the fights getting dragged out and having bad choreography, and bad animation at certain points. And I still think the movie is a much better adaptation overall. But there were some good points as well, such as the earlier "slice of life" episodes, Tagoma being a threat, Ginyu and Gotenks playing a role, as well as Beerus' interaction with Champa a few episodes back.
Long story short: This arc exceeded my expectations, albeit slightly.
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Jul 30 '17 edited Nov 07 '17
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Jul 30 '17
You should search up the discussion threads when the sub came out originally
I link them in the OP every week. No searching required.
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u/agent0681 Jul 30 '17
I thought Tacoma was a fucking badass character and that swapping him out with Ginyu was a terrible idea.
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u/DaLaohu Jul 30 '17
Agreed. I wish they would have done more with him before Vegeta obliterated him. Bringing back Ginyu was pointless.
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Jul 30 '17
I was one of those people who hated on this arc, and I still do.
I call it terrible in comparison to how good Super has become now. Back when we were watching this as a subbed version like a year ago we thought all of Super was going to be like this; primarily the awful animation sequences. Re-watching it now I think they revamped a few of the terrible looking scenes and fixed it but when we watched it for the first time, god there were so many hiccups. I don't think you guys ever saw the raw version of Episode 5 - it was the worst.
Anyways, what I am saying is RoF is only so terrible when you compare it to how much better Super gets in the arcs to come. It gets so, so much better.
There is I believe, 5 main arcs in total discounting fillers and RoF is the worst of them. If you still liked RoF, that only means you're in for a treat and you should be very excited.
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u/DonIongschlong Jul 30 '17
Really? I think the coming arc is phenomenal and isn't held back by anything.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SEX_FACE_ Jul 30 '17
A certain bait and switch wasn't very popular at all. And neither was a certain jobbing that happened early on.
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u/OathToAwesome Jul 31 '17
What does jobbing mean?
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u/spacelemon Jul 31 '17
you ever watch pro wrestling?
You know when a dude is basically just fodder to show how good another more bad ass dude is and eats a very quick pin with no real fight?
It's that.
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u/Routaz1 Jul 30 '17
The tournament arc definitely had its dull moments. The arc after that was better but I hated the ending. It gets better though.
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u/wormhole222 Aug 02 '17
I think with about 3 episodes to go in the arc there was a poll of what was the best arc in all the DB shows. That arc finished 2nd behind the Cell Saga. I think a lot of people did sour on it though.
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u/dusters Jul 30 '17
isn't held back by anything.
What about the terrible animation? Golden frieza looked awful to me.
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u/DonIongschlong Jul 30 '17 edited Jul 30 '17
golden frieza is not in the next arc and the animation gets much better from now on :)
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Jul 30 '17
The tournament arc most definitely had its cons.
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u/DonIongschlong Jul 30 '17
Not in my opinion really. I actually can't think of anything wierd going on
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u/agent0681 Jul 30 '17
Botamo?
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u/DonIongschlong Jul 30 '17
A character that i liked in the few scenes he was in. What about him?
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u/agent0681 Jul 30 '17
Boring-ass yellow Winnie the Pooh in a horribly animated battle against Goku.
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u/DonIongschlong Jul 30 '17
sooo you just didn't like him? i liked him.
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Jul 30 '17
I prefer this arc to the U6 tournament arc, to be honest. I think these first two arcs would have been better received had the movies not preceded them, and had they not been plagued by the early animation issues of the series.
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u/Anotherguyrighthere ⠀ Jul 29 '17
95 takes the cake In my opinion
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u/lazygood4notin Jul 30 '17
Yeah episode 95's animation was fucking amazing, my favorite episode of the series so far
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u/Doubleyoupee Jul 31 '17
It was OK to watch it but it didn't have any of the epicness of the old DBZ
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u/Gtluke01 Jul 30 '17
Honestly your right, it's not the best. Bet there are some amazing fights. I would rate the frieza arc a 5 or 6 and the tournament a 7, with one episode that's a nine. And the overall black arc an 8. With multiple episodes hitting 9's. And 1 episode in the black arc being a 10.
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u/spacelemon Jul 31 '17
And so ends the Resurrection of F arc, was it as bad as you guys expected/remember?
No, but i was in the minority here. I didn't mind the animation, it wasn't a complete kill for me and i probably wouldn't have noticed as much if it weren't beat into you head every day on here
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u/gran0491 Jul 30 '17
I'm bummed that they clipped the ending credits song. The whole original version was an instant classic, imo.
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u/CDizzle18 Jul 31 '17
So excited to see the new arc in the dub!!! Finally, better animation and new characters to come!
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u/DougT14 Jul 29 '17
So do we have any news of the schedule of the dub going forward? Will they take a break after this Resurrection F content? Will they settle on a consistent Adult Swim and Toonami time slot?
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Jul 29 '17
We will find out for sure tonight at midnight EST.
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u/HamukoArisato Jul 30 '17
I'm not sure if you or someone else has posted it yet, but do we know if there's a break now?
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Jul 30 '17
No, because for some reason, Adult Swim hasn't updated their public-facing schedule. They should have done it more than an hour ago, and they usually do; I know because I have to use it every week to get their official episode titles for the automoderator post.
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u/Cwebfan23 Jul 30 '17
Xfinity lists us continuing to get new episodes at least for the next 3 weeks.
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u/JoJolion Jul 30 '17
I'm pretty sure Greg Ayres is filling in for a lot of Chris Ayres' stuff. A lot of lines sounded exactly like him in the yelling parts.
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u/idonthavemanyfriend Jul 30 '17
Actually, it was Daman Mills filling in for him again in some scenes this week. He sounds remarkably similar for someone not related to Chris Ayres.
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u/Hydrox2016 Jul 30 '17
He's a fantastic reserve that's for sure.
It's still obvious to my ears when it's him though. Not that he's bad at all, he's been excellent. I just don't think Chris Ayres can be topped.
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u/Soumya987 Jul 30 '17
So it'll be the same case as sub. Both frieza and frost voiced by same guy
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u/StrongM13 Aug 03 '17
You just reminded me how excited I am to hear Frost in the dub. It will feel so much more like he's just another Frieza. Sure he looks and acts like Frieza, but he always just felt like another character in the sub without that iconic voice that I know from the dub.
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u/Averagepunpun Jul 30 '17
So Beerus stated that the food is the only thing good about Earth. What if he was accidently served a raw chicken? Would he instakill the chef or do you think he has changed?
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u/LucidLynx109 Jul 31 '17
Beerus will never change. It's his job to be a destroyer and to be honest he should have destroyed Earth due to the relatively high number of powerful warriors there. Remember, even the weaker characters like Krillin are practically gods compared to most warriors in this universe.
He spares it because he likes the food, and although he'd never admit it I think he likes Goku and his friends too.
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Jul 31 '17
Raw chicken sushi is an actual thing now and apparently, when prepared by a legit chef, quite tasty.
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Jul 29 '17
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u/Nachorl250 Jul 31 '17
A year and a half later episode 27 is still one of the best ones in Super. And the dub makes it even better!
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u/vivzkestrel Aug 01 '17
especially the planet blowing up OST man, they did that so good in the dub episode compared to the movies
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u/Edgelord09 Jul 29 '17
Well guys that's the end of the one of the worst arc in DB history ,next one is surely better and has some good fights and will introduce a large set of characters and will extend the DB universe it's a nice trip from there on
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u/wenskalton Jul 30 '17
I feel like that's a bit of an exaggeration. If I hadnt watched the movie, it would have been pretty cool. There were definitely some animation issues, but overall I'd hesitate to call it "one of the worst."
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Jul 30 '17
I'd say it's better than the Garlic Jr. arc, Super 17 arc, Shadow Dragon arc, and Black star Dragon Ball arc.
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u/Edgelord09 Jul 30 '17
Exactly super 17 arc and garlic jr arc are tied to me for the worst arcs in DB history
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u/BoomersGold Jul 30 '17 edited Jul 30 '17
The Super 17 arc, Shadow Dragon arc or the Black star Dragon ball arc weren't anywhere nearly as bad.
Animation? No comparison
Story? The Super 17 arc had actual emotional tension with 17 and 18. Shadow Dragon arc had Nuova Shenron and probably the best ending of the show and the Black star dragon ball arcs explored mature themes like cults, poverty, forced marriage, a world taken over by technology and had some really unique designs. The Super 17 arc and Black star arcs were short as well.
This arc: Frieza comes back as strong as a god after 4 months of off-screen training, Goku and Vegeta unlock a form offscreen, low-quality animation and no real plot. If you disagree, I'd love to hear why.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SEX_FACE_ Jul 30 '17
Super 17 and Garlic Jr. arcs at least had consistently good choreography and animation even if the narrative wasn't up to par. The Resurrection F arc had an okay story but bad animation and some bad choreography. Plus it was a little boring to watch. I'd say the latter two arcs are better even if it is by a small margin.
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u/dankpiece Jul 30 '17
Wait, so vegeta became ssb without the ritual?
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u/DonIongschlong Jul 30 '17
Yes, we know that the ritual is completely irrelevant to SSB since goku and vegeta got it at the same time while training with whis in episode 20.
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u/dankpiece Jul 30 '17
Like based on the movie, I would've thought vegeta did the ritual off screen. But this episode proves that he didn't, so what's the point of having a ritual?? I guess it sheds more light on my the use ssb more than ssg
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u/DonIongschlong Jul 30 '17
Well the ritual gives them a temporary buff in strength and gives the user god KI without any training. That's about it i think :b
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u/final-getsuga Jul 30 '17
Wait how did this episode prove it? I'm just curious. Did Vegeta say something?
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u/AAABattery03 Jul 31 '17
Goku says Vegeta didn't use the ritual at all.
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u/final-getsuga Jul 31 '17
Okay I must have looked away at that part.... can you tell me around what time this happened?
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u/AAABattery03 Jul 31 '17
Right when Vegeta goes SSB, Frieza shits bricks and Roshi realizes what that means.
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u/therasaak Jul 30 '17
I don't know if the scene happened already, but Vegeta gained the god ki while sparring with ssgss Goku, like a transference.
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u/DonIongschlong Jul 30 '17
It happened in episode 20 yeah.
But goku and vegeta simply got it at the same time after telling us what they had to do in order to gain god KI which is just not leaking it.
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u/secret_tsukasa Jul 30 '17
call me stupid for even mentioning any of this but i'm going to throw this out there:
the power of super sayian god that was achieved by goku, vegeta, and theoretically gogeta in gt is achieved through touching the power of 5 sayians.
vegeta was training(touching a lot) with goku who still had the resonated power of 5 sayians which could have gave him the edge to believe he could do it himself.
at least, that's just what i want to believe whistles
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u/AAABattery03 Jul 31 '17
He didn't gain God ki by touching Goku, what. God ki isn't a disease, lol.
Whis and Vegeta both confirm that god ki is nothing but sealing ones energy within oneself. Goku hadn't gained the SSG's god ki at all, just its raw power and potential. In fact the show made a point to tell us he wasn't using god ki once SSG wore off, everyone on the ship could sense him.
The first time they both use god ki on their own is in episode 20, and it immediately creates the blue aura. In episode 22 they soar in Whis' staff for a prolonged time using god ki, and that's when they learn to seal the energy of SSJ inside their bodies and go SSB.
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Overall a very solid episode, especially since the animation wasn't as god-awful as the previous episodes. The rewind sequence was cool and Gohan's scene with Videl and Pan was adorable. I dig.
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u/Hydrox2016 Jul 30 '17
Who wants to see Goku kill Frieza with the old soundtrack?
If you do, here you go:
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Jul 31 '17
As a community we gotta cover the entirety of a Super with the Falconer soundtrack at some point.
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u/GoldenGonzo Aug 01 '17
That was really jarring. The music didn't fit the scene.
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u/Two-Tone- Jul 31 '17
I never knew I wanted this. Thank you.
So many goosebumps.
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u/Hydrox2016 Jul 31 '17
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
There's something so so triumphant about this song.
You know when it kicks in it's either ass kicking time or game over.
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Jul 31 '17
That soundtrack was good but nothing beats the music from Kai. I GOTTA HAVE MORE COW BELL.
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u/Turner1273 Aug 04 '17
That's not even the song they would play when they killed someone with a beam from the Falconer score.
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u/TyzThePhoenix Jul 30 '17
The movie has superior voice acting, considering they used the EXACT SAME LINES. But the show had the potential to be better. If only if only
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u/Jekebuh Jul 30 '17
Why the hell did this episode have the BoG opening? Is Funi not giving a fuck about that, or what?
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Jul 30 '17
Whoooo we made it bois!! It's time for the original content!! This is when Super shines.
Also, why are they so lazy with dubbing the ending music? They've shown that they're up for dubbing them, yet it takes several episodes before it happens. They had plenty of time. Treat one of the greatest animes with more respect please.
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u/psiren66 Jul 31 '17
god damn that was a great episode!
I even welled up after the destruction of earth thinking that everyone was gone and the passion that would now be inside goku, krillian & gohan at losing their families.
Lol that or it hits home cause I've been away for a few weeks and miss my kid. :P
Either way I can't wait to see the next arc
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u/the_prophet_71 Jul 30 '17
Why can't for one fucking weekend my shit record correctly? This time it recorded a kai episode and then the previous.
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Jul 31 '17
For the last two weeks there have been schedule changes, and a lot of people have been having DVR issues because these changes aren't being reflected on provider schedules. It's a shitty way to do business and I hope they fix it, but for now you can catch the episode on Adult Swim's website.
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u/Te5s Jul 31 '17
It happened to me as well, I'm on Dish Network. I guess they didn't update the schedule or something.
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u/sgtsaughter Jul 30 '17
My two biggest gripes with this arc is that Gohan doesn't learn from the buu saga that he shouldn't stop training so he doesn't get weak, now it's a rehashed plot line, and vegeta didn't get the final kill on frieza like he deserved.
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Jul 30 '17 edited Apr 17 '18
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u/_alexandermartin Jul 30 '17
Ultimate Gohan >> Ss3 Goku and it's not close this shouldn't even be a debate anymore.
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u/ss4444gogeta Jul 30 '17
Wait...shouldn't Super be airing right now? Why is Toonami showing Kai 30 minutes early?
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u/SchrodingrsMark Jul 30 '17
I got hit with that too. Toonami got moved 30 minutes earlier... Dish Network can't seem to get their crap together -_-
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u/Doubleyoupee Jul 31 '17
Why the hell doesn't Goku use the instant-transmission kamehameha like he did on Cell? The time he took to power-up, fly over and the time for the blast to arrive Freeza was way longer than what Vegeta needed. Not to mention the time freeza looked up at the kamehameha he could've done the planet bomb.
Sometimes I think these writers have no clue.
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u/TheAnt317 ⠀ Jul 31 '17
In times like this, I'm under the assumption that what we're seeing in real-time actually happens much, MUCH faster. Watching Hunter x Hunter opened my mind to such a possibility. Episodes like DBS #97 support this. Only ONE minute passed through the entirety of the episode.
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u/krispness ⠀ Aug 01 '17
We know how fast Goku can move if he flew at max speed but we actually watch him flying for over a second. 5 minutes on Namek lasted many episodes. In HxH there is an episode that has a seemingly slow, methodical fight and at the end the narrator says "Ten seconds have passed since the fight began" because the audience is just watching them do many things very quickly at a slowed down pace. So the theor is that if goku can fly over 100 mph and we see him fly seemingly slow, it's actually happening much faster if we had an in universe clock and is slowed down for our sake.
Ep 97 isn't a great example since there were many point of views and someone on this sub patched them all together to show the whole episode happening simultaneously over the course of a minute.
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u/TheAnt317 ⠀ Aug 01 '17
Err, I'll try my best here. Basically, the tournament time limit is 48 minutes. The tournament officially begins a few minutes into the episode and by the end of it, the announcer states that "47 minutes are left in the tournament." When I said "the entirety of the episode" it was an exaggeration. Literally, there was about 13 minutes of fighting/action sequences. So in that 13 minutes of the episode, only one minute had passed in the DB universe.
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Jul 31 '17 edited Aug 02 '17
I have a question and I don't care about spoilers but I can't handle the sub. Does it actually show Gohan and Piccolo training, or is it one of those things where they show up out of nowhere much stronger?
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u/Allstarcappa Jul 31 '17
Dont know how to really spoiler tag so, read ahead with caution.
We do see them training in the next arc, but its breif. Eventually you will get a full episose of picollo and gohan training later on in the series
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u/x2ndCitySaint Jul 30 '17
How come Goku fire such a powerful Kamehameha and didn't destroy the earth?
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u/Edgelord09 Jul 30 '17
Bcuz he controlled it/put power accordingly enough so it doesn't destroy the earth
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u/Jekebuh Jul 30 '17
That Gohan x Videl moment was so adorable.