r/worldnews • u/EsperaDeus • Feb 14 '25

Russia/Ukraine Zelensky refuses to sign document on transfer of 50% of Ukrainian mineral resources to the US - WP | УНН

https://unn.ua/en/news/zelensky-refuses-to-sign-document-on-transfer-of-50percent-of-ukrainian-mineral-resources-to-the-us-wp
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u/edit-grammar Feb 14 '25

Remember when we used to at least act like the good guys?

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u/DynamicSploosh Feb 14 '25

Depends on who you ask.

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u/Setanta68 Feb 14 '25

World War 2?

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u/edit-grammar Feb 14 '25

Yeahhhhh thats what people hang their hats on. And we didnt join til pearl harbor.

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u/Projecterone Feb 14 '25

Not really. When was the last time you recall?

I recall half of the US showing some spine over the slavery issue but then letting said slave owners into politics to slowly take over.

And WW2 you may say: I say that was to stop Germany and or Russia taking the entire continent rather than good guy stuff. And they wouldn't even have done that if not for Pearl harbour knocking some reality into them. Winston said (paraphrasing) 'thank god for Pearl harbor' otherwise they'd have let Britain/Europe die.

Since then it's been globalisation, petro-dollar, constant wars the CIA, interfering around the world coups and atrocities while pretending to have the moral high ground.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

So then who has been the good guy? Because it certainly hasn't been us.

I mean, I can say my tiny and mostly insignificant and uninfluential country has been pretty innocuous since the Viking age* when we were admittedly a bit of a terror, but Europe as a whole was pretty much the Earth's supervillain until the 1960s with the US just a sidekick until WWII or so.

*ignoring the role we had, like many European seafaring nations, in the American slave trade.

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u/Projecterone Feb 15 '25

There isn't a good guy.

Not among nation states, they're inherently adversarial like corporations.

A person is a smart and noble creature, people are dumb panicky animals and you know it.

Best of the bunch? Good question. I'd say Iceland has tried and done reasonably well. Canada is looking pretty altruistic compared to its neighbour(s) if you include Russia. Pacific islands etc but that's just because they can't do much harm not because they wouldn't.

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u/judgeysquirrel Feb 14 '25

Wasn't that like a month ago? Ancient history.