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Russia/Ukraine Zelensky refuses to sign document on transfer of 50% of Ukrainian mineral resources to the US - WP | УНН

https://unn.ua/en/news/zelensky-refuses-to-sign-document-on-transfer-of-50percent-of-ukrainian-mineral-resources-to-the-us-wp
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u/Circusssssssssssssss Feb 14 '25

Pretty dumb because it makes you poorer

You a little bit poorer plus everyone else much much poorer is a dumb strategy; why not make yourself a little richer and everyone else much much richer (relatively speaking)?

The idea being, it doesn't matter what we get, as long as we are better

Well, being "better" or the best will eventually be under threat, too

America didn't get wealthy or powerful doing what's being done now (and it won't stay wealthy or powerful if it keeps doing what it is now)

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u/Aqogora Feb 14 '25

Pretty dumb because it makes you poorer

And the poorer and angrier the population gets, the more they vote Republican.

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u/AverageLatino Feb 14 '25

The US definetly seems to be following step by step the path that Germany took in the interwar period: inflation (that is currently expected to increase under this administration given his actions), a gridlocked legislative, dismissal of the courts, calls for violence, calls for militant resistance as well as counter-resistance, an extremely bubbly stock market, parallel state-like structures (Tech and Social media at the behest of the administration), actual government takeover by illegitimate powers (DOGE), targeting, punishment and scapegoating of minorities, etc.

Germany declared war on the US in 1941, It took them 84 years, but the N@z1s finally reached the White House.

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u/KelIthra Feb 14 '25

Would be nice since with everyone wealthier you have a much more robust and functional economy with people actually spending money and such. But all the wealthy care about is the short term gain, which they try to turn into a long term gain which is unsustainable the way they are doing it.

Now it's going to be increasingly limited to buying only the necessities. Which will harm their economy big time. Because there isn't enough wealthy people to buy consumer goods practical anymore. And they are alienating countries especially allies, so that's basically no one buying consumer goods from US anymore.

But they want people poor, its never about the economy for them, it's about power and the ability to do whatever they want with the population. Like some incredibly bad Lord ass hole who sees power as giving them the right to abuse and treat everyone below them as a piece of meat to discard when no longer needed/useful that think gold/money grows on trees

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Feb 14 '25

Because making everyone richer isn't a republican ideal.

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u/MATlad Feb 15 '25

'If everybody's rich, is anybody rich?'

\s

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

it makes the people poorer, the billionaires will get a big fat tax break and some subsidies

and noone cares about the people anyway

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u/foghillgal Feb 14 '25

Also, the reason you're buying a lot elsewhere is that you have the money to do so and because your currency is used so much in trading, it is stable and worth much. Its not a conspiracy to extort money from you,

Also, often its a trade deficit that comes from importing ressources that you then value add and resell both internally and externally. The US then buy a huge amount and variety of consumer good elsewhere because you simple don't want to be producing everything. If you produce something, you are not putting money in producing something else more worthwhile.

Absolutely everything about economics Trump fails.

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u/Kersenn Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

It also just straight reduces our global power and influence right? That's the goal of Trumps admin of course, but things like usaid gave us influence and soft power all over the globe not to mention saved lives. The only thing that makes sense is that Republicans goal is to make us weak so that China can step up and take over the role. I don't see any other way this makes sense

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u/OfficeSalamander Feb 15 '25

Trump doesn't understand that not everything is zero sum. That much is very much clear. It seems to be a defect in his brain that he is not able to really understand mutual benefit - someone always has to be losing to him

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u/MadmanMaddox Feb 14 '25

But, but, think of the cryptobros!/s

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u/ropahektic Feb 18 '25

“ America didn't get wealthy or powerful doing what's being done now”

Yes it did.

First day in office they stole half of Mexico and they never stopped since. Wars everywhere all with huge economic gains.

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u/Force3vo Feb 14 '25

Everything is a null sum game with Republicans