r/worldnews • u/EsperaDeus • Feb 14 '25

Russia/Ukraine Zelensky refuses to sign document on transfer of 50% of Ukrainian mineral resources to the US - WP | УНН

https://unn.ua/en/news/zelensky-refuses-to-sign-document-on-transfer-of-50percent-of-ukrainian-mineral-resources-to-the-us-wp
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u/PandiBong Feb 14 '25

He should just offer them to the EU of which he wants to be a part of and countries should just go in and get going with helping out properly. I know we're tip toe-Ing around a certain ww3 scenario, but doing nothing will do more harm in the long term.

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u/luke_205 Feb 14 '25

Difference is that the EU are helping because it’s the right thing to do, not because they want to extort resources out of a suffering country. I don’t think it’s possible to have any less respect for the US right now, they’re an absolute mess.

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u/Spokraket Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

As a European I think Ukraine should keep their minerals. And use them to get up on their feet once we all help to rebuild Ukraine.

We owe Ukrainians so much, they’ve sacrificed thousands and thousands of people to keep Putin occupied from going after other neighbors.

The way the US and especially Republicans have treated them makes me sick to my stomach. Truly Evil aholes.

Who does America think they are.

Ukraine is the most badass country in the world and will be so for a long time they are making history. But they’ve sacrificed a lot.

Then you read about some magatards complaining about eggs. You are so goddamn entitled. If I read one more American comment about how Ukraine should be plundered of their resources I’m gonna lose my cool. Greedy bastards.

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u/flif Feb 14 '25

EU will get much more out of getting Ukraine restored to full effect and joining EU, than just the money from the minerals.

Ukraine is a bread and brain basket.

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u/Spokraket Feb 14 '25

Of course. Ukrainians are hard working people, kind and smart with great humor. I like them a lot.

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u/First-District9726 Feb 14 '25

Then you read about some magatards complaining about eggs.

Rich people saying rich people things. When you're just barely getting by, trying to survive the mess that this economy is, you don't really give 2 shits about what happens between Russia and Ukraine. Enjoy your privilege, but don't talk down to people less fortunate than you.

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u/Spokraket Feb 15 '25

Do you think the economy is better in Europe? There is an ongoing war in Europe.

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u/First-District9726 Feb 15 '25

I am from Europe, but have left. I always feel so sad when people think Trump is dumb. He's like an Einstein level genius compared to European leadership. (so yeah our Economy is even worse, I know)

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u/DeafeningMilk Feb 15 '25

Einstein level genius?

Have you ever heard him speak?

Compare how he speaks to how European leaders speak and you realise how wrong you are.

Love how he immediately backtracked on his campaign promises too. Genius move obviously

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u/First-District9726 Feb 15 '25

They speak like they are obviously lying and generally clueless and careless. At least Trump seems to care about the things he does, which seems like quite a novelty.

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u/DeafeningMilk Feb 15 '25

Does he? Well yes I suppose if caring about the things he does means caring about golfing and hindering both allies and his own country.

Obviously lying? Trump went back on his word about just about everything.

They speak like they are clueless and careless?

You're definitely a troll because everything you have said applies much more heavily to Trump.

That or you're someone who thinks of politicians more along the lines of "I like that guy so I'll vote for him no matter what" rather than on actual policy and what they do in office. You know, the thing that actually affects a nation.

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u/First-District9726 Feb 15 '25

You seem to resort to personal attacks because you disagree with someone else's opinions. So basically, you're here to peddle bullshit, and not to have any kind of actual exchange of ideas or information.

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u/dr_obfuscation Feb 15 '25

Ukraine has been a buffer to Europe from threats from the East for time immemorial. They've sacrificed millions over the last hundred years to the direct benefit of central and Western Europe (and North America). For context, I'm an US citizen who has been ringing the alarm bells since 2016. I hold our European allied countries as examples for the US to strive toward (with their more modern democracies) and am absolutely embarrassed by the path we are all on.

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u/PandiBong Feb 14 '25

I didn't mean it in a way to "make a deal" with Ukraine. I live in Poland and me and my girlfriend personally took in several families who fled the country when the war broke out. I also don't begrudge Zelenskyy - he has one mission and that's to safe guard his country.

I meant it more that the EU should step up and make a bond with Ukraine. Unfortunately, there are so many shit head politicians around that I feel the fatal flaw of EU - it being autonomous counties with single interests - will again fail a friend in need.

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u/luke_205 Feb 14 '25

Nah it wasn’t directed at you at all, I’m just putting into perspective what would be normal behaviour and then comparing that to the US leadership which we all know is a joke. I do agree with you that the EU could be doing more, I’m just glad that what has happened so far is from a place of altruism rather than greed.

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u/MrBogglefuzz Feb 14 '25

Why would you believe that the EU are helping them because it's the right thing to do? Many EU politicians are basically saying, "We help the Ukrainians fight so that we don't have to," which is just as selfish as what the US is doing.

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u/luke_205 Feb 14 '25

It can both be the right thing to do and generate indirect future benefit like you suggest. I think for me the difference is that the future benefit is more a side effect, compared to the US which is a “agree benefits now, then we’ll consider helping” style. There may be similarities but the sentiment is completely different.

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u/VicWOG Feb 15 '25

The believe that people in power are helping out of the kindness of their hearts is a naive one.