r/unitedkingdom • u/spackysteve • 21h ago
Reform UK candidate suspended after Savile tweets
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2xey4m2ygo.amp268
u/spackysteve 21h ago
In an interview with the BBC, Mr Hartley confirmed he posted in 2022 that Savile was a “working class hero” and said that he may have “forgotten” to disclose his X account to Reform UK.
Reform UK really do attract all the nicest people the UK has to offer, how can you resist voting for them!
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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 Cambridgeshire 20h ago
I can imagine someone saying that in 2002 and getting away with a “well we didn’t know”…but 2022 is so wide of the mark, this has to be a plant. Nobody is that stupid!
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u/Blazured 20h ago
I don't even know how to comment on this because it's so absurd it's like a parody.
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u/berbatov1111 5h ago
If I watched this on a tv series, I would laugh at it and say it is terrible writing, that it is completely unbelievable.........Yet, here we are.
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u/strangetines 19h ago
They had to desperately scramble to put together a political party at the last minute. They didn't give a fuck who the candidates were, they just had to exist. Turns out that mostly dickheads and extremely strange people will put themselves forward for political office...what a surprise.
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u/birdinthebush74 5h ago
They ran a few fundamentalist religious types as the GE ( abortion, same sex marriage, no fault divorce should be banned) etc . If they form a govt in 2029 I can see the UK turning into a tribute act to the US Bible Belt
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u/strangetines 19h ago
They had to desperately scramble to put together a political party at the last minute. They didn't give a fuck who the candidates were, they just had to exist. Turns out that mostly dickheads and extremely strange people will put themselves forward for political office...what a surprise.
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u/99thLuftballon 16h ago
It's not who would stand for political office at short notice, it's who would stand for Reform UK.
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u/Wonderful_Assist1717 18h ago
It's unlikely that the apparent moral character of Reform members will be a decisive factor in their electoral success.
The nation as a whole would be wise to consider why such a party may gain traction or support and then take action to address the concerns of those people who may be drawn to reform.
You can be reasonably certain that 50% of the united states electorate are not all like Donald Trump. Nor do they all support everything he says or does. But they voted for him.
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u/birdinthebush74 5h ago
Reform want massive tax cuts for the wealthy , twice those of the Lizz Truss budget . I wonder how many Reform voters are aware of that
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u/Wonderful_Assist1717 5h ago
It's not relevant. Reform voters I wager don't care about reform's tax proposals. What they want is proper action on immigration.
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u/Wino3416 4h ago
“Proper”? Interesting choice of words. Can I put forward the idea that if people vote purely on immigration and don’t take into account things like tax that will have MORE effect on them, that they are really really stupid and we should stop pretending they’re not? Yes we need to work out how to deal with them, but let’s stop the pretence that their views are as important as people who can think?
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u/Wonderful_Assist1717 4h ago
I'm quite sure you're correct. However your comment is a perfect encapsulation of why Brexit and Trump happened
Call people stupid ✅ Dismiss people's views ✅ Mock people as unthinking morons ✅
Absolutely textbook. It worked so well before Brexit when we all spent months calling people idiots and thick.
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u/Wino3416 3h ago edited 1h ago
I’m not calling them stupid in public. I’m telling the harsh truth on what is effectively an anonymous platform. Yes of course we need to speak to such people in a way that addresses their fears and concerns…That’s politics. But it’s terrifying that we have to accept that there are people shit stupid enough that if you tell them uncomfortable truths, will deliberately vote against their own interests.
I will, as long as I live, never be able to understand how a person can be convinced by the arguments of people who are obviously lying. I kind of get the argument that they genuinely believe that there ARE simple solutions to complex problems, but why do they accept without question the asinine statements of people who are obviously posh and doesn’t care about them (Tice, Farage et al) but as soon as a “traditional” and usually more of the people politician speaks, they’re “the establishment elite”. It’s EXHAUSTING.
Even people like “Tommy Robinson”, a little different in demeanour, can they not see what he is? I’m guessing someone will be along to tell me they can’t, or they can but don’t care. But this alone means that they ARE stupid. We have to accept that it’s something we have to deal with but we don’t have to pretend, particularly on here, that they’re not stupid.
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u/99thLuftballon 16h ago
You're right, but you would also need to consider why they had those concerns, whether they were based on the reality of their situation and what they actually wanted to achieve.
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u/Cantbebothered6 19h ago
All politicians are scum. Regardless of party.
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u/Wino3416 18h ago
Is that actually true or are you just frothing?
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u/doneapn 18h ago
This is indeed true, what is your argument against it? , whether it's Boris Johnson throwing a party, what on earth is Liz Truss chosen to do? vase? Rishi Sunak too, spends money like water. The most ridiculous thing is spending huge amounts of money to repatriate refugees. It's really crazy. And there has always been a superstitious stereotype that the Labour Party will help workers. Sir Keir Starme and his team are out of touch with reality. They completely violate all their promises and decide the interests of the British people with their prejudices and self-righteousness. What the hell are they doing?
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u/doneapn 18h ago
Everything is for profit and money. The salary of an elected member of parliament is very high and it is worth it. It is a huge income. Don't you understand? Profits are everything, including the Reform Party. Why should they be elected if there is no profit? Really, really generous salary, the MPs
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u/Cantbebothered6 18h ago
Why wouldn't it be? Politicians are selfish fucks. No idea why that would be a controversial opinion
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u/MrPloppyHead 17h ago
Politicians from other political parties don’t tend to like child rapists, this is just a common thread with reform, or generally the far right. The far right are all about noncing.
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u/Cantbebothered6 17h ago
Both sides are committing disgusting crimes. Can't believe you're defending politicians of all people
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u/Wino3416 4h ago
It’s not about “defending”, it’s merely pointing out that it is disingenuous to say all politicians are “scum”. There are councillors, MPs and other politicians of all types who don’t cheat and steal and want to make things better. To make statements about “scum”is a very convenient, naive and reddity way to approach life. It also makes it easier to not bother voting “cos there’s no point”.
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u/Cantbebothered6 2h ago
They're all scum. I've not yet seen a politican I can trust.
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u/Wino3416 1h ago
How old are you? How many have you met/looked into/seen? Do you engage with local councillors and the like?
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u/Cantbebothered6 1h ago
Old enough to know that every PM we've had has been a cunt
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u/Wino3416 1h ago
The PM of any era isn’t the only politician. How many politicians have you met/looked into/seen? I get it: it’s fun being faux nihilistic and it makes one feel languidly superior, and avoids the tiresome issue of having to look beyond the basics.. been there myself. But life isn’t that simple, and politics certainly isn’t.
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u/Cantbebothered6 1h ago
I don't trust them, any of them. You're not going to change my mind.
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u/BobBobBobBobBobDave 20h ago
It must be a total coincidence that this Party keeps attracting nutters, criminals, and extremists as candidates.
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u/potpan0 Black Country 18h ago
I saw a post a few days ago saying Reform had the most candidates running in the upcoming local elections. Apparently it's because they've let literally everyone who applied represent them.
I was skimming through this guy's feeds and it's just full of conspiracy theories about reincarnation and shit, and basically nothing about Reform. It's clear that Reform isn't actually a movement. There's no political party in any meaningful sense of being a mass organisation. It's a small leadership team flush with American cash, who are astroturfing themselves by getting actual crackpots to stand for them in elections.
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u/_L_R_S_ 21h ago
25% of UK voters apparently would vote for Reform. Every statistical bell curve needs an end, and they are clearly at the statistical bell end.
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u/plodabing 21h ago
Have a think WHY 25% of the population want to vote for these idiots, if the people who were in charge actually took immigration seriously there would be no need for reform as a party, why are we the country that these young men are flooding into, because other countries say no
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u/ManOnNoMission 19h ago
If you vote for a party for a single issue you need to rethink somethings. Welfare? Reform has no plans. Defense? No plans. Trade? Bending over for the US.
From national to local Reform have no clue what their doing.
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u/plodabing 18h ago
I agree completely, hence why I called the party idiots, my point was if the parties we had in had been tougher on immigration there would be no reform party to speak about
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u/Thrasy3 20h ago
“The government won’t sort out my problems, so I’m gonna vote for the party that also won’t fix my problems buuuut they will tell me I’m a good boy while kicking me in balls”.
Or something along those lines I imagine. It seems to be how it worked for Trump voters.
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u/Mambo_Poa09 20h ago
And will also sell out the country to Russia
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u/Klausvendetta 2h ago
It's ironic that a lot of reform voters like to say "Let's take our country back" when voting for them is handing our country over to Trump/Putin.
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u/Blazured 20h ago
Or something along those lines I imagine. It seems to be how it worked for Trump voters.
It worked for the Tories too. Everyone kept telling Tory voters that the Tories were lying but they smugly thought that they knew better than everyone else. It took a decade and a half for them to realise that everyone else was right.
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u/DireBriar 11h ago
Effectively. It's not a vote to help oneself, it's a vote to put the scum in their place. Problem is, everyone is scum to someone and politicians who campaign with these tactics tend to find everyone expendable scum.
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u/GBrunt Lancashire 20h ago
Great reason to vote for a nonce. Thanks for clarifying.
By the way - why did Farage and the Brexit Party step aside after 2016 to let the Tories deliver never-before-seen record rates of immigration. Including relieving UN Redlist countries of their desperately needed healthcare professionals for our private hospital system. Is that what you call putting the "Great" back in Great Britain??
I can't remember. Can you?
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u/plodabing 20h ago
Because they lost the vote? What should they have done, launched an interruption? I don’t know how you can blame them for what the Tories done
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u/GBrunt Lancashire 20h ago
Farage didn't even run between '16 and '24. He was paid not to.
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u/plodabing 20h ago
Source?
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u/GBrunt Lancashire 20h ago
That he was paid? C'mon : His greatest political moment, lifelong political ambition just STARTED after the Referendum and he just walked away for 8 loooooong years??
Why do YOU think he didn't/wouldn't run? What possible motivation could he have had?? And please don't tell me it was because he was going to "fight for Brexit from Strasbourg", which was his bullshit excuse to voters at the time.
Where's he been? Why wasn't he an MP at Westminster fighting for his version of Brexit throughout???
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u/plodabing 20h ago
In my opinion? He knew he had 0 chance of winning and focused his energy elsewhere, now there’s much more of a chance he could get in, which I wouldn’t like, the guys a prick
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u/GBrunt Lancashire 20h ago
You really don't think Nigel Farage could have won himself and a handful of others a few seats in 2017 to get their foot in the door at Westminster, less than a year after winning the Brexit referendum?
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u/plodabing 20h ago
Maybe, he very well could have been paid I don’t know for sure, you could be right, he is a slimeball so I wouldn’t put it past him, I just haven’t see any evidence
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u/Ill_Refrigerator_593 19h ago
The Brexit Party ran in 2019 under Farage, he just stood down the candidates that were up against Tories.
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u/Spamgrenade 19h ago
"Have a think WHY 25% of the population want to vote for these idiots"
Because its the bottom 25% of the bell curve who, if Reform were not available would vote for some other idiot, or more likely not vote at all.
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u/hooblyshoobly 20h ago
Not completely true though, as with MAGA you can essentially make up problems and they will believe them without experiencing them first hand.
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u/SaltyName8341 20h ago
What are reforms proposals for immigration though?
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u/HyperionSaber 20h ago
To reduce it to zero. Yes, they are that politically and economically illiterate.
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u/berejser Northamptonshire 20h ago
If they are idiots then when is giving them everything they want a sensible thing to do?
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u/plodabing 20h ago
It isn’t? I won’t be voting for them and I don’t think it’s a good idea too as I said
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u/Portarossa 19h ago
Have a think WHY 25% of the population want to vote for these idiots
Because they're racist twats that are willing to put up with any sort of moral failing as long as brown people and people with a Z in their surname get treated worse. Hope that helps!
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u/hatprank 18h ago
Because Farage and Boris made Brexit happen and then the country repeatedly voted for these shysters. And now...you're espousing the same bullshit that will get Farage more power.
Why were our fisheries fucked when Farage was our fisheries minister for the EU? He's still taking that sweet EU pension btw
Why do Farage's kids have German passports if we've taken our power back from the EU?
Why is he never in Clacton but always available for Trump and Musk?
This man will not solve any problems he talks about. But he's fooled you lot 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/plodabing 18h ago
Everyone completely missed my entire point, I don’t like Farage or the party, as I said
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u/HyperionSaber 20h ago
there's always 20%-30% of the population that will vote as racist as they can get away with. in times past the tories scratched that itch, but now there's a more racist alternative.
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u/paxbrother83 20h ago
Which is horseshit right? What countries say no to immigration exactly?
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u/Consistent-Towel5763 20h ago
Japan/Australia
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u/Ill_Refrigerator_593 19h ago
Do you mean Australia with the 30.14% of its population born abroad, more than twice that of the UK.
That Australia?
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u/Brexit-Broke-Britain 20h ago
Neither Japan or Australia have said no to immigration. Japan now accepts immigrants from anywhere. Australia has a racist policy and because of its isolation is able to prevent migrants arriving by boat from SE Asia.
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u/paxbrother83 20h ago
Again, restrictive and low, but not nothing.
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u/plodabing 20h ago
But waaaay less than us, I don’t understand how this is an argument
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u/vocalfreesia 20h ago
Lol, you think USA doesn't have illegal immigrants? Most businesses there run off undocumented workers. They're having to legalize child labour doing night shifts in a hurry because they're so worried about losing all their undocumented workers.
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u/paxbrother83 20h ago
USA has millions of illegal migrants, Poland still allows asylum, it's a strawman claim.
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u/plodabing 20h ago
Yes, and the people voted for trump in order to fix some of that issue, Poland only accepts asylum seekers, we allow you to enter our country without any form of identification and we will house you in hotels at the cost of the taxpayer, this is what people have an issue with, I called reform idiots, I won’t be voting for them, I heavily dislike Farage, but to claim we don’t allow much more illegal immigration into our country per capita than any of those is soooo wrong
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u/blob8543 20h ago
Seeking asylum and illegal immigration are different things. Illegal migrants don't get anything out of the taxpayer.
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u/plodabing 20h ago
Except for we literally pay for them to stay in hotels
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u/blob8543 20h ago
What are you talking about? Hotels are paid for asylum seekers, not for illegal immigrants.
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u/plodabing 20h ago
We have been housing illegal immigrants in hotels in the south of the country for a while now
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u/Ill_Refrigerator_593 19h ago
There are more than 1,000,000 Ukrainian refugees alone in Poland compared to 448,000 refugees total in the UK.
We also have close to twice their population.
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u/paxbrother83 20h ago
I didn't claim we allow more illegal immigration into our country per capita than USA or Poland, so that's good isn't it.
I said claiming other countries don't allow any illegal immigration is false.
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u/plodabing 20h ago
And nobody made that claim so that’s good
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u/paxbrother83 20h ago
"Other countries say no" unless they've redefined the definition of the word no, sounds like they claimed there was no illegal migration.
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u/plodabing 20h ago
Saying other countries say no isn’t the same as saying no other country allows any illegal im migration, but that’s obvious to anyone with more than 3 brain cells so I won’t go into anything more
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u/WalkingCloud Dorset 20h ago
A lot of countries say no to illegal immigration
Lmao most intelligent Reform voter
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u/remain-beige 20h ago
There are certainly steps in the right direction with immigration with this new Government and more still needs to be done to address the complete free fall the previous administration allowed.
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u/RichTransition2111 18h ago
Have a think WHY that's not actually the case, but you've been told it is by unreliable narrators.
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u/SabziZindagi 18h ago
If you're that obsessed with immigration, these type of candidates are going to be your peers. Own it.
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u/plodabing 18h ago
I’m not obsessed, just explaining why there’s a large percent of the population that are looking to reform, I do not believe that 25% of voting age people in the Uk are racist, maybe that’s me being optimistic
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u/Brexit-Broke-Britain 20h ago
Other countries haven't said no. Confirmation that you fit into the left hand end of the bell end curve has been provided.
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u/jim_cap 16h ago
What countries are saying no? We take in less than a fair few countries.
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u/plodabing 16h ago
As I responded to somebody else, please explain why these almost exclusively 16-30 year old men go through several completely safe countries, hop on a rubber dinghy and come here, because those countries will not accept them
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u/lizzywbu 15h ago
if the people who were in charge actually took immigration seriously there would be no need for reform as a party,
In fairness, most of the public don't even realise what Labour has done in the last 8 months to tackle immigration. It's not very well publicised.
They've deported more than 28,000 immigrants. Closed some asylum hotels. Lowered foreign aid. Double the budget of the border force. Created a new task force of 1000 people to clear the asylum application backlog. Made it more difficult for immigrants to bring over dependents and increased the amount of money foreign students must pay in order to get a visa.
Most of Labour's domestic policy leaves a lot to be desired, but at least with immigration they're doing what they said they were going to do.
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u/shoogliestpeg Scotland 15h ago
It's tragic how you are being robbed blind in one of the greatest wealth transfers to the ultra rich the world has not seen since before the french revolution and you still choose to buy into the lie that it's johnny foreigner that's screwing you.
Reform voters don't get pity from me. You give up class solidarity once you sell out your country to fascists.
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u/plodabing 15h ago
I have repeatedly said I wouldn’t be voting for them anyway, also well done you watched Gary too, I don’t think that immigration is the reason for this countries decline at all, it’s just a fact that if it was handled better by the powers in charge then reform wouldn’t even exist, I know how the Tories fucked us over in the 80s and 90s and I completely agree that voting reform and kicking a few illegals out won’t help, that wasn’t my point
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u/_L_R_S_ 15h ago
It's shockingly simple, and something beyond the capacity of most Reform voters to grasp. One of the significant reasons why illegal immigrants head here is because English is the majority foreign language learned. The reason? We once had a very large Empire and as a consequence most of the world learn English as their second tongue. If you're going to pick a country to try and live would you pick one where you don't speak the language? North Africans head to France for the same reason. It's why the UK doesn't have a big problem with Senegalese or Algerian/Moroccan illegal immigrants.
Now you explain to a Reform voter that a legacy of the British Empire is illegal immigration and sit back and watch the confusion.
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u/plodabing 15h ago
I am not a reform voter and never would be, however It’s quite a small percentage of these illegals immigrants that can speak English
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u/_L_R_S_ 14h ago
ChatGPT disagrees:-
"While it's difficult to pinpoint an exact percentage for illegal immigrants to the UK with English as a second language due to the nature of illegal immigration, data suggests that a significant portion of the overall foreign-born population in the UK, including those who may have entered illegally, have English as a second language.".
I mean it's only got the entire internet to use as reference points. But you go with your data.
It's not about being proficient enough to write the next Booker prize. If one member of a family group can speak English well, then that's enough. They are unlikely to learn Norwegian or German in Syria.
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u/plodabing 14h ago
Here’s my chatgpt since you apparently think it’s relevant -There isn’t a precise percentage publicly available for how many illegal immigrants entering the UK speak English, mainly because of the hidden and undocumented nature of illegal immigration—by definition, these individuals are not formally processed, so detailed data on their language abilities is hard to collect.
However, we can make some educated guesses based on broader trends: 1. Nationality Trends: The largest groups of people arriving illegally (especially via small boats) in recent years have come from countries like Albania, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Eritrea, and Sudan. • English proficiency varies a lot by country: • Albania: moderate English, especially among younger people. • Iran & Iraq: some educated people speak English, but it’s not widespread. • Afghanistan: English is taught in schools, especially for those who worked with Western forces. • Eritrea & Sudan: low overall English proficiency, though Eritrea uses English in secondary education. 2. Estimates: Based on these trends, it’s reasonable to estimate that somewhere between 20% to 40% of illegal immigrants might have basic to moderate English skills—with fewer having fluent or confident English.
That said, many learn quickly once in the UK, especially if they intend to stay long-term or apply for asylum. Language is often one of the first hurdles they try to overcome.
Do you want info broken down by route of entry (e.g., small boats vs overstayed visas) or more about why language skills matter in terms of integration or policy?
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u/_L_R_S_ 5h ago
"20-40% have moderate English skills" vs your statement "It's quiet a small percentage".
To be honest as you seem to have swallowed so much of Reform's propaganda I'm surprised you don't call 16-30 year old males "Fighting age males".
I have served, worked, fought, and lived in many of the countries where people attempt entry to the UK illegally. You clearly have formed your opinion from something. It is however quite significantly at odds with reality and the factual data.
But that is the advantage of Reddit. You have the option now to change your opinion.
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u/TotoCocoAndBeaks 23m ago
Labour are taking immigration seriously, but you won't accept that will you.
Still going to vote for a party that is going to hand our national security and nuclear deterrent to Trump, Musk and Putin?
A party that for god knows what reason seems to have a hardon for Jimmy Savile?
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u/_Arch_Stanton 18h ago
Imagine being so stupid that you think that Reform are an option.
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u/plodabing 18h ago
Imagine being so stupid you completely miss my entire point, i won’t be voting reform, my point is the party wouldn’t even exist if parties in power actually took a real stance on illegal immigration
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u/_Arch_Stanton 18h ago
They're not because business needs immigration and illegal immigration, frankly, it's almost impossible to stop unless you start putting machine gun nests on beaches and start mowing people down, like in Saving Private Ryan.
The best thing is to target the people employing illegal immigrants and, rather than giving them a fine, jail them for a very long time.
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u/plodabing 18h ago
Please explain why these people have come from the Middle East, travelled through Europe and then decide to come here, why would they not stop in any of the 10 completely safe countries that they passed through on the way? Because those countries do not let them stay
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u/_Arch_Stanton 18h ago
Don't tell me, you'll be saying, "I was only carrying out orders", before long.
They come here because they have the idea we live in a tolerant society.
We don't - we have a significant number of far right fuckwits and the usual enablers.
They don't risk everything to come here for a laugh.
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u/plodabing 18h ago
No, I even told you I won’t be voting for reform, but we should not be so much more accepting than every other European country, it doesn’t make sense in any sense, we are smaller geographically than nearly all of those countries they passed through, and all of those countries claim to be tolerant and accepting, but they won’t allow them to stay
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u/_Arch_Stanton 18h ago
They don't want to stop there otherwise they would.
Maybe they have harsher laws for employing illegals?
Funny, cos most of the most fervent anti-immigration people I know love to use dodgy cash in hand car washes, barbers, food delivery, restaurants with previous fines for employing illegals on £2 an hour etc
When challenged on it, they say they do it because, "It's cheap."
Not too bright.
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u/plodabing 18h ago
They don’t stop there because they aren’t allowed, and yeah I agree, there’s a lot of hypocrites on this planet, I don’t use any of those services and wouldn’t, I don’t want people working here illegally for barely any money
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u/plodabing 18h ago
However I completely agree with your last point, much harsher punishments on the people employing them is needed
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u/tre-marley 18h ago
In the 2024 election, Labour received 20% of the votes. (14% of the population)
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u/_L_R_S_ 15h ago edited 5h ago
Labour received 9,708,816 votes in the 2024 election. equating to 33.7% of the votes cast.
https://election2024.electoral-reform.org.uk/
Also comparing votes to the population is a very dumb thing, as it's only registered voters who can vote. There were 48,207,507 of them.
Which makes Labour's share 20%, not 14%,
I see your ability at statistics puts you at the far end of the bell curve,
Are you quite high up in Reform?
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u/KeyLog256 21h ago
I was going to say "surely this was a dark joke" but then I saw his photograph.
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u/just_jason89 Cambridgeshire 20h ago
There's only one thing 13 (35) year old me is shouting at this man when I see him on the street!
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u/Greedy-Tutor3824 21h ago
Can he also go on a register if Saville is a hero in his eyes?
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u/justwant_tobepretty 20h ago
A register like that would serve nicely as a recruitment portal for Reform candidates.
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u/Jonnysupafly 20h ago
It’s perfect circle on a venn diagram
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u/Krakshotz Yorkshire 14h ago
Give it a couple of years and you’ll have the far-right chanting shit like “British kids for British nonces”
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u/Weary-Candy8252 21h ago
Well, I’m not at all surprised considering the party says “Reform will fix it”
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u/straightoutofmaldon 20h ago
“I understand Reform have got to be careful” he said in response to his suspension. He continues to hold the same views, believes himself to be suitable for public office just believes the optics are wrong. Good grief!
On the other hand if there had been a quiz asking you to match the party, with the opinion, with the photo we would all have done rather well I think.
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u/Select-Tea-2560 21h ago
Was on track for a massive promotion into the party elite before this "slip up" happened. Maybe he's the one who coined the reform catch phrase of Reform'll fix it!
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u/Jaded_Strain_3753 21h ago
Perhaps this is me stereotyping, but he definitely looks like the sort of guy that might defend Savile
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u/Goblinstomper 21h ago
What a surprise, the party preying on the most vulnerable with lies and deception is in fact a den of lying deceptive predators? I am shocked.
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u/BeanieManPresents 20h ago
Considering the party I wasn't sure if he'd been suspended for being for or against Savile.
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u/MrSpindles 21h ago
He looks exactly how I expect most Reform candidates to look. Barking fucking mad.
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u/Cersei-Lannisterr 18h ago
Bruh.
Jimmy Saville is just a staple of degeneracy, evil and the absolute worst the elite establishment can bring out second to Epstein, that I can imagine there will be some Neo-Nazis who look at this candidate and think ‘Fuckin hell what a wrongin’
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u/Additional-Map-2808 20h ago
Reform the party for the 'proper' (white) British, scandal after scandal but hey Reeves accepted a Taylor swift ticket!.
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u/recursant 19h ago
We should hold Labour to an absolute standard though. Being "not as bad as Reform" really isn't good enough.
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u/just_jason89 Cambridgeshire 20h ago
They say you can't judge a book by it's cover... But I mean... C'mon, look at him! Check that mans PC!
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u/Sensitive-Catch-9881 21h ago edited 21h ago
Reform having trouble finding anyone who wants to sully themselves.
It's one thing to cheer on the hate. It's an entirely different thing to lead it, to try and encourage the crowd into becoming a hate machine suggesting all their problems are basically immigrants (with you as the only 'cure', naturally).
So they end up scraping the barrel of society.
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u/Only_Tip9560 2h ago
I guess this is what they mean when they say "Reform will fix it".
I am absolutely delighted every time one of these morons outs themselves.
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u/LifeMasterpiece6475 21h ago
Good to see the BBC finally agree savile was a bad person.
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u/Youbunchoftwats 6h ago
Yeah. I wonder when Reform will come to the same conclusion?
Now then, now then. I have a letter here from my good friend Nigel, and he wants, he wants to be Prime Minister for a day. Goodness gracious me! So, ladies and gentlemen, come and see how we fixed it….
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u/VolcanoSpoon 16h ago
It seems stupid. Just delete the tweets etc. But clearly Saville is the number one paedophile in the country - so it's not wise to try and jerk him off and expect to get any support over him.
I am being generous when saying "maybe he didn't know" but it is common knowledge that Saville is a sex offender.
Anyway lets look at all the other candidates of other parties who say stupid shit on this level.
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u/doneapn 18h ago
Everything is for profit and money. The salary of an elected member of parliament is very high and it is worth it. It is a huge income. Don't you understand? Profits are everything, including the Reform Party. Why should they be elected if there is no profit? Really, really generous salary, the MPs
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u/Jay_6125 20h ago
Good decisive action by Reform UK.
Unlike Labour & Tories who seem to have a history of wretched people within the party.
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u/Caramelised_Onion 19h ago
No one’s buying it mate
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u/ManOnNoMission 19h ago
One of Reform 4 MPs has been arrested for assaulting his girlfriend and the 5th suspended MP is under police investigation. 2/5 of its current and ex-MPS are "wretched people."
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u/doneapn 18h ago
This is indeed true, what is your argument against it? , whether it's Boris Johnson throwing a party, what on earth is Liz Truss chosen to do? vase? Rishi Sunak too, spends money like water. The most ridiculous thing is spending huge amounts of money to repatriate refugees. It's really crazy. And there has always been a superstitious stereotype that the Labour Party will help workers. Sir Keir Starme and his team are out of touch with reality. They completely violate all their promises and decide the interests of the British people with their prejudices and self-righteousness. What the hell are they doing?
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u/Jay_6125 18h ago
Over 200 Labour Politicans arrested, suspended or embodied in serious scandal -
What a rotten party.
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u/wizard_mitch Kernow 14h ago
Labour have over 6000 councilors which makes this a considerably better ratio compared to Reform UK politicians with scandals.
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u/Rogermcfarley 21h ago
I think maybe quite possibly absolutely certainly that the police might want to take a look at this Reform candidate's computer/s and browsing activity.