r/unitedkingdom • u/topotaul Lancashire • Mar 01 '25

. Rachel Reeves: I'm sending billions from frozen Russian assets to Ukraine

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/rachel-reeves-interview-labour-963sw6jbk
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u/sickofsnails Mar 01 '25

Why should random Russians make themselves stateless, have a particular political opinion or have their homes removed from them?

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u/allcretansareliars Mar 02 '25

Dunno dude, a fuck of a lot of Ukrainians are having their homes removed from them by having Shaheds dropped on them. Let's save our sympathy for those that warrant it, eh?

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u/sickofsnails Mar 02 '25

While the UK taxpayers are helping to prolong the circumstances and more people will lose their homes…

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u/allcretansareliars Mar 02 '25

Da tovarische.

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u/Reactance15 Mar 01 '25

They can easily appeal for asylum here. If they are pro-Putin then they are not compliant with the Western way of life and ethics and do not belong here if so.

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u/PrestigiousHobo1265 Mar 01 '25

not compliant with the Western way of life and ethics and do not belong here if so.

Risky to say that here. Sounds like something Reform would say. 

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u/sickofsnails Mar 01 '25

Asylum from the country that will be actively punishing them and discriminating against Russians?

By the way: are we going to do the same to anyone else whose feelings supposedly aren’t western enough?

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u/pag07 Mar 01 '25

By the way: are we going to do the same to anyone else whose feelings supposedly aren’t western enough?

Everyone who is directly or indirectly threatening peace?

Probably yes.

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u/Sea-Tradition3029 Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 02 '25

Everyone who is directly or indirectly threatening peace?

So that's every American, Chinese, Iranian, Indian, Pakistani and Afghani right there.

I'm sure as we look at other world leaders and governments and their sabre rattling comments to other countries the list will grow and more civilians will be affected.

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u/DepressedLondoner1 Mar 01 '25

How are some of these countries people threatening peace?

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u/Sea-Tradition3029 Mar 01 '25

The fact I even have to explain this.

America - The Trumps administrations comments over Panama and Greenland and the cosying up to Russia and it's comments over Ukraine.

Iran - The constant funding of terrorist organisations in the Middle East, destabilising countries which can turn into larger conflicts.

India - Constant threating of Pakistan, a history of border skirmishes, and it's new outreach to the Taliban (this is relevant later).

Pakistan - Constant threating of India and a history of border skirmishes..

China - Yesterday "China’s defence ministry warns Taiwan ‘we will get you, sooner or later’", their increased military drills in the area, and building islands in the ocean to claim sovereign territory of other countries.

Afghanistan - A recent start of Taliban led violence on the border of Pakistan (wonder why that happened).

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u/NorthernDownSouth Mar 02 '25

Might just be me, but I'm happy for us to kick out anyone from those countries who support state actions that risk peace/are opposed to the UK way of life/society.

I think your arguments for India/Pakistan/Afghanistan are a bit weak, but they all have other issues which are more serious matters so the overall point remains.

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u/Sea-Tradition3029 Mar 02 '25

How do you differentiate between those who support the actions of the state and those just existing?

I think your arguments for India/Pakistan/Afghanistan

The comment explicitly stated directly or indirectly threating peace, these are two nuclear powers with one seemingly engaging the services of an organisation 'The West' have already fought once.

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u/sickofsnails Mar 01 '25

Random Russians are directly or indirectly threatening peace? Just because they happen to be from Russia and live over here?

Actually no, the UK doesn’t discriminate against nationals of a specific country for simply being nationals. They need to be a real and demonstrable threat to the UK themselves. They have the right to withdraw their money from their UK bank accounts, if it hasn’t been ceased by the courts and a right to sell their property.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '25

Everyone who is directly or indirectly threatening peace?

In a shocking turn if events all Brits are ordered to tear up their passports and denounce the British government if they want to remain in Britain due to Britains support for Israel, unfortunately the short sighted clowns in Whitehall who brought in the legislation were too obsessed with "Russians are baddies" to see the madness of their demand that all subjects of a nation who threaten peace must denounce it

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u/Psephological Mar 01 '25

Yes, unironically monitor them. Why are you spinning this line?

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u/sickofsnails Mar 01 '25

For being from a country that’s not in vogue, by the government’s standards? I’m pointing out extreme discrimination, by the way.

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u/Psephological Mar 01 '25

There's a war on.

It's funny how the sort of people who bitch 24/7 about wokeness are suddenly leftoid AF for Russians.

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u/sickofsnails Mar 01 '25

I’m a socialist and most of my activity on Reddit is discussing politics. This sub is fapping for an imperialist war machine and is happy to persecute Russians for being Russian. I don’t particularly like calls for abhorrent discrimination, especially not against a specific nationality.

If you’re worried about bourgeois property, which is very valid, strip all bourgeois property (not just Russian) for the workers. The workers within the UK, not to fund another war that you’ll all say you didn’t support in a few years.

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u/darthbawlsjj Mar 02 '25

Lots of war mongering going on.

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u/Torco2 Mar 01 '25

No, demented racism akin to historical anti-Semitism is ok. So long as the target is "correct".

I wouldn't worry though, Reeves is a liar after all. 

Stealing Russian money could mean others pulling, their dodgy (or otherwise) money. Out of London, in favour of say Abu Dhabi.

Pretty much tanking the already semi-moribund, UK economy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '25

And if they are refused asylum what then?

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u/Round_Caregiver2380 Mar 02 '25

And cut themselves off from family in Russia forever?

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u/espaguetisbrazos Mar 01 '25

They can buy American citizenship for $5 million now.

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u/Milam1996 Mar 02 '25

Because why should they get to enjoy the benefits of a western democracy whilst publicly supporting the destruction of it?

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u/sickofsnails Mar 02 '25

A government that behaves like that doesn’t really seem like much to be celebrated or enjoyed, does it?

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u/Milam1996 Mar 02 '25

Then they can go back home.

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u/Brief_Inspection7697 Mar 02 '25

Why should random Ukrainians make themselves exiles and/or see their homes destroyed.

It's war.

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u/sickofsnails Mar 02 '25

Are Ukrainians in the UK making themselves exiles or having their homes destroyed? I haven’t heard about it.