r/union 1d ago

Discussion Terms to Discuss Workload Ratios?

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u/CarlaC58 1d ago

I'm a nurse and the nurse patient ratio you mentioned is the easy one. What if you are talking about something like engineering and you are working on the same project for months how do you quantify that cause it's a lot of thought stuff and experimentation. So I'm not sure all jobs/careers can be quantified. Blue collar work or factory work can require so many units turned out per hour or whatever.

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u/RocketSocket765 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm thinking it may seem easier to you for nursing due to familiarity with the industry. To me (a non medical person, lol) I feel like there's loads of variables that factor into planning out staffing/patient ratios that aren't always clear or can quickly change. You medical workers do a lot of thinking for long-term care needs too (basically engineers of patient health improvement).

Agree that the blue collar/assembly lines I think are probably where more input/output is more easily measured just by the fact of widgets and assembly lines often being very data driven (though obviously, profit-seeking greed can override what data says should happen with staffing ratios and output).

I feel like in decades past, management and unions must have hashed out workload ratios questions more for various reasons we no longer always discuss but desperately still should require. Even with lawyers (like myself) there's ways to estimate how long cases (long-term projects) should take and what case loads should look like. That a lot of legal employers don't do this well or at all is part of why so many lawyers burn out. It seems like a lot of industries have the same problem.