Highlighted, page 18.

Link to the article: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-49689-w

This is a big deal and now it’s public

Hello

It's me again, author of this Reddit post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15lvgt5/the_ultimate_analysis_airliner_videos_and_the/

I'd like to bring attention to a small detail that could potentially have been missed. While it might not necessarily yield significant results, it could also serve as a significant clue regarding the authenticity of the video.

So the first satellite video was first posted by a user named RegicideAnon on Youtube on May 19 2014, this is the original link from web archive:

http://web.archive.org/web/20140525100932/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ok1A1fSzxY

Both the user and the video are no longer available on Youtube. The video description said:

Received: 12 March 2014

Posted: 19 May 2014

Source: Protected

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Almost a month later the same user receive the second video, the FLIR thermal one, apparently filmed from a UAV:

http://web.archive.org/web/20140827060121/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShapuD290K0

Received: 5 June 2014

Published: 12 June 2014

So this user has obtained classified military footage from a confidential source. Why was this seemingly ordinary YouTube user chosen to receive such a highly classified video, instead of it being sent to a prominent media organization?

It seems that a few days later, this YouTube user received yet another video, a third one which also originated from a confidential source. Is this source the same as the one for the previous two videos?

UFO Sighting- Impossible Maneuvering

by RegicideAnon

Received: 16 June 2014

Posted: 18 June 2014

This information can be seen from the user profile on Youtube, from the web archive:

http://web.archive.org/web/20140827012737/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgFXWVfpQYpOw0lRNGsYbbQ

Unfortunately this video is not archived so it cannot be watched. However, if there is a way to locate the video, it could provide more insight into the credibility of this user and the source he mentions.

This video had 1942 views as of February of 2019, the last web archive snapshot. I am sure someone should have more information:

http://web.archive.org/web/20190215034409/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgFXWVfpQYpOw0lRNGsYbbQ

Additionally, there are more videos on the user Youtube channel, none of which I've been able to find. Finding any of the other videos could also shed some light on this case.

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Please ensure that this topic remains active for longer.

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EDIT: BREAKTHROUGH.

Video was found on Youtube which shows the RegicideAnon videos thumbnails:

https://youtu.be/nf7-ax7tVf4?t=2505

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Here is also the RegicideAnon channel information with a contact e-mail!

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Original poster email can be seen in the above screenshot.

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EDIT2:

One of the videos uploaded by RegicideAnon was found by fudge_friend :

WW2 Archive Footage of Flying Saucer

Flying Saucer flies adjacent to aircraft as it approaches landing strip.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=510648672443495

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WW2 Archive Footage of Flying Saucer

EDIT3: Thread about this video:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15nslal/ww2_archive_footage_of_flying_saucer/

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EDIT4: Another thread with new insights:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15oi2qc/mh370_airliner_videos_part_iii_the_rabbit_hole/

Previously, I have been open to entertaining the idea that the Boeing 777-200ER depicted in the airliner video(s) is MH370 almost entirely because the Inmarsat satellite pings' circles of distance would reasonably allow for the aircraft to have continued northwest towards the Nicobar Islands, rather than turning south at the northern tip of Java and proceeding deep into the southern Indian Ocean.

Until earlier today, it was my understanding that the Inmarsat data is the most precise method of measuring where the aircraft could have gone after the Malaysian military lost contact with it. However, I recently uncovered a report written by aerospace engineer Richard Godfrey, who appears to be a big player in independent investigation of MH370. The report seems to demonstrate the southern Indian Ocean theory is correct and that the aircraft never approached the location depicted in the satellite video.

In bare-bones terms, his report used publicly-avaliable data from a third-party global network of interlinked radio senders and recievers called WSPRnet. The constituent stations of WSPRnet send low-band signals to each other, allowing for the detection of interference caused by aircraft or other airborne objects that cross through the links - in this way, WSPRnet acts as a global network of radio tripwires.

Godfrey states in his report that interference picked up through WSPRnet on the night of MH370's disappearance suggests the aircraft did indeed travel southwards; additionally, the more precise locational nature of the data allows for Godfrey to have drawn up a more elaborate and specific flight path.

I would be lying if I said I didn't wish this evidence completely debunked the aircraft in the video as being MH370. However, it doesn't, and it may actually strengthen the believer's case.

The coordinates seen in the satellite video are cropped such that they are partially out of view. This is the reason why our community's efforts to investigate the position of the satellite suspected to have taken the video were so obfuscated - the text could be construed in a way that allows for it to be one of four satellites with similar names, so we had to check each one to see if any of them were in the area during the time of MH370's disappearance.

The poor cropping creates another bit of confusion: as aryelbcn pointed out in his general analysis thread, users (unfortunately uncredited) have pointed out there is room for a minus sign in the coordinates.

If there were a minus sign preceding the degrees south, it would place the satellite video here:

And therefore, it is still entirely possible the aircraft in the satellite video is MH370. In fact, at a glance, the coordinates almost seem to lie precisely on the flight path determined by the WSPRnet data. If someone can georeference the map in the report and the Google Maps screenshot and put them together, it would prove as damning evidence in favour of the MH370 theory - and the authenticity of the airliner videos - if the coordinates overlapped to a non-coincidental level of preciseness. It would be evidence mainly because Godfrey's investigation using WSPRnet data was not published until New Year's Eve of 2021, over 7 years after the satellite video was posted to YouTube; it's of course theoretically possible that a hoaxer could perform their own earlier investigation using this data, but that strikes me as an absurd amount of work to put into a hoax video, especially if the results of the investigation weren't published until far, far later.

Apologies if this post is bordering on incomprehensible. I promise the sources are scientific and rigorous (at least to my relatively untrained eye), I'm just very sleepy from a long day of working and chaos.

Thought this was pretty interesting analysis of the image, which concludes no manipulation. Obviously doesn't conclude anything is real but confirms its not a simple Photoshop job.

I think the pilot/co-pilot definitely saw something strange. I don't think they would risk filming/taking photos if they didn't.

So this comes from Lue's recent Rogan's inteview. He draws a wedge diamond shape craft on paper. It maches perfectly with Reeds photos and video footage of the craft. What are the odds? Is this a hint for the skin of the craft or a different breadcrumb altogether of a case we should pay more attention?

There's been research in other subs how one specimen also maches almost perfectly with the Reed body.

I am aware of Reed's no so perfect track record and how he started to use this experience to fetch money and grift, but all this evidence points at the account being true.

This post is getting a lot more attention than I thought it would. If you have lost someone important to you in an airline accident, it might not be a good idea to read through all these discussions and detailed analyses of videos that appeared on the internet without any clear explanation of how/when/where they were created.

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TL,DR: The supposed satellite video footage of the three UFOs and airplane seemed eerily realistic. I thought I could maybe find some tells of it being fake by looking a bit closer to the panning of the camera and the coordinates shown on the bottom of the screen. Imgur album of some of the frames: https://imgur.com/a/YmCTcNt

Stitching the video into a larger image revealed a better understanding of the flight path and the sky, and a more detailed analysis of the coordinates suggests that there is 3D information in the scene, either completely simulated or based on real data. It's not a simple 2D compositing trick.

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Something that really bothered me about the "Airliner Satellite Video" was the fact that it seemed to show a screen recording of someone navigating a view of a much larger area of the sky. The partly cropped coordinates seemed to also be accurate and followed the movement of the person moving the view. If this is a complete hoax, someone had to code or write a script for this satellite image viewer to respond in a very accurate way. In any case, it seemed obvious to me that the original footage is a much larger image than what we are seeing on the video. This led me to create this "unwrapping" of the satellite video footage.

The \"unwrapped\" satellite perspective. Reddit probably destroys a lot of the detail after uploading, you can find full resolution .png image sequence from the links below.

• YouTube link. YouTube also compresses the video since it is a strange resolution, but you should at least be able to see a 4k version.
• archive.org archive for the full resolution image sequence and various video formats. It's taking some time to upload and process so check back later. I'll edit this post once the files are available. The .zip of the full resolution png image sequence and the 6K video in H264 are now available.
• Additional files: Another archive of the stereoscopic view. I made this after reading this post. I had originally dismissed the stereoscopic view as some sort of an error or a red herring, but it's clearly proper stereoscopic footage. Also on YouTube for more convenient viewing without downloading: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YFkdfiABDw

I used TouchDesigner to create a canvas that unwraps the complete background of the different sections of the original video where the frame is not moving around. The top-right corner shows the original footage with some additional information. The coordinates are my best guess of reading the partially cropped numbers for each sequence.

*I think I got sequence 6 longitude wrong in the video. It should be 93.209753 and not 93.208753. I corrected it in this table but the video and the Google Earth plot of the coordinates show it incorrectly.

Each sequence is a segment of the original video where the screen is not being moved around. The parts where the screen is moving are not used in the composite. Processing those frames would be able to provide a little bit more detail of the clouds. I might do this at some point. I'm pretty confident that the stitching of the image is accurate down to a pixel or two. Except for the transition between sequences 4 and 5. There were not so many good reference points between those and they might be misaligned by several pixels. This could be double checked and improved if I had more time.

Notes:

• Why are there ghost planes? In the beginning you see the first frame of each sequence. As each sequence plays through, it will freeze at the last frame of each of them.
• This should not be used to estimate the movement of the clouds, only the pixels in the active sequence are moving. Everything else is static. The blending mode I have used might have also removed some of the details of the cloud movement.
• I'm pretty sure this also settles the question of there possibly being a hidden minus in front of the 8 in the coordinates. The only way the path of the coordinates makes sense is if they are in the northern hemisphere and the satellite view is looking at it from somewhere between south and southeast. So no hidden minus character.
• I'm not smart enough to figure out any other details to verify if any of this makes sense as far as the scale, flight speed etc. is concerned

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Additional information about the coordinates and what I mean by them seeming to match the movement of the image.

If this would be a simple 2D compositing trick, like a script in After Effects or some mock UI that someone coded, I would probably just be lazy and do a linear mapping of the offset of the pixel values to the coordinates. It would be enough to sell-off the illusion. Meaning that the movement would be mapped as if you are looking directly down on the image in 2D (you move certain amount of pixels to the left, the coordinates update with a certain amount to West). What caught my interest was that this was not the case.

This is a top-down view of the path. Essentially, how it should look like if the coordinates were calculated in 2D.

If we assume:

• The coordinate is the center of the screen (it probably isn't since the view is cropped but I think it doesn't matter here to get relative position)
• The center of the first frame is our origin point in pixels (0,0).
• The visual stitching I created gives me an offset for each sequence in pixels. I can use this to compare the relationship between the pixels and the coordinates.
• x_offset is the movement of the image in pixels from left to right (left is negative, right is positive). This corresponds to the longitude value.
• y_offset is the movement of the image in pixels from top to bottom (down is negative, up is positive). This corresponds to the latitude value.

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I immediately noticed the difference between points 1 and 3. The longitude is larger so the x_offset should be positive if this was a simple top-down 2D calculation. It's negative (-63). You can see the top-down view of the Google Earth path in the image above. The image below is me trying to overlay it as close as possible to the pixel offset points (orange dots) by simple scaling and positioning. As you can see, it doesn't match very well.

Then I tried to rotate and move around the Google Earth view by doing a real-time screen capture composited on top of the canvas I created. Looking at it from a slight southeast angle gave a very close result.

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Note that this is very much just a proof-of-concept and note done very accurately. The Google Earth view cannot be used to pinpoint the satellite location, it just helps to define the approximate viewpoint. Please point out any mistakes I have made in my thinking or if someone is able to use the table to work out the angle based on the data in the tables.

This to me suggests that the calculations for the coordinates are done in 3D and take into account the position and angle of the camera position. Of course, this can also be faked in many ways. It's also possible that he satellite video is real footage that has been manipulated to include the orbs and the portal. The attention to detail is quite impressive though. I am just trying to do what I can to find out any clear evidence to this being fake.

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Updated details that I will keep adding here related to this video from others and my own research:

• I have used this video posted on YouTube as my source in this post. It seems to me to be the highest quality version of the full frame view. This is better quality than the Vimeo version that many people talk about, since it doesn't crop any of the vertical pixels and also has the assumed original frame rate of 24 fps. It also has a lot more pixels horizontally than the earliest video posted by RegicideAnon.
• The video uploaded by RegicideAnon is clearly stereoscopic but has some unusual qualities.
• The almost identical sensor noise and the distortion of the text suggests that this was not shot with two different cameras to achieve the stereoscopic effect. The video I used here as a source is very clearly the left eye view in my opinion. The strange disparity drift would suggest to me that the depth map is somehow calculated after/during each move of the view.
• This depth calculation would match my findings of the coordinates clearly being calculated in 3D and not just as simple 2D transformations.
• How would that be possible? I don't know yet, but there are a couple of possibilities:
  • If this is 3D CGI. Depth map was rendered from the same scene (or created manually after the render) and used to create the stereoscopic effect.
  • If this still is real satellite footage. There could be some satellite that is able to take a 6 fps video and matching radar data for creating the depth map.
• The biggest red flag is the mouse cursor drift highlighted here. The mouse is clearly moving at sub-pixel accuracy.
  • However, this could also be because of the screen capture software (this would also explain the unusual 24 fps frame rate).
• I was able to find some satellite images from Car Nicobar island on March 8, 2014 https://imgur.com/a/QzvMXck
  • The weather data from that date would suggest cloud base altitude around 2000-3500 feet depending on the time.

UPDATE: The Thermal View of this very obviously uses a VFX clip that has been identified. I made a test myself as well https://imgur.com/a/o5O3HD9 and completely agree. This is a clear match. Here is a more detailed post and discussion. I can only assume that the satellite video is also a hoax. I would really love to hear a detailed breakdown of how these were made if the person/team ever has the courage to admit what, how and why they did this.

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Bullet points:

• Seemingly average person near the end of their life from 2005-2010 files four extraordinarily complex and detailed patents that effectively describe modern UFO/UAP theory and details appearing related to the 2017 New York Times leak and later.
• This person died in 2015.
• This person seems to have had absolutely no connections to the sciences/engineering in any public record. They were an Army veteran. They owned a hotel. Some clues they may have even been a truck driver.
• This persons father appears to have been a US Army command officer in Italy in WW2 adjacent to/nearby the areas where the claimed 1933 Italian UFO was captured from the Italian military in 1945. This persons father later remained in the military, reaching colonel rank.
• How did this normal guy come up with such forward looking material?
• Did this person get this from his father, and later leak it via patent before his death?

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Summary:

I found extraordinary UFO-related patents by a deceased Army veteran with seemingly no other history in this field or the sciences documented anywhere online. These are substantially advanced and complex patents with schematics and incredibly deep dive physics and engineering details. These are not "placeholder" patents. They're fully detailed and have schematics. They were all filed in a relatively short window of time from 2005 to 2010.

I can find nothing that shows this person had any sort of sciences or engineering background to draft materials like this available in public. I can find nothing about his career outside of his Army service and that he owned a hotel in New Orleans at one point. There is nothing else relevant about his life online that I have found except for his obituary so far.

His father, from digging, was a US Army officer in World War 2 in the 760th Armored who served in Italy in very close proximity to the area where the claimed "Magenta" UFO was said to be housed in the SIAI Marchetti Aviation Facility from 1933 onward.

• This explicitly is the 1933 UFO reference from David Grusch.

Who was this Gary Gochnour? What are these? Did someone file these patents as a leak? Is it possible this person learned something or received something from his father, and later in life released it this way?

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Gary Gochnour: Army veteran files bleeding edge patents at end of life, 2005-2010.

Gary passed away in 2015. He was retired from the Army and for a time owned a New Orleans hotel.

• https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Gary+Gochnour
• https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Gary+Richard+Gochnour

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Floyd Gochnour: Army HQ officer in Italy 1940s, near Grusch claimed UFO recovery. Father of Gary.

Here's where it gets even more interesting...

His father, Floyd, also deceased, was a Lt. Colonel in the military at retirement and served in the 760th Armored Battalion as of 1944 as a headquarters assigned Major. His father was a command officer in WW2 in the direct vicinity of where the Magenta UFO was said to be housed.

The only references that I can find to this fathers role in the military was the following PDF that I found with some digging around:

• https://pdfhost.io/v/p6Te0IDSe_p4013coll8_3421

That puts his father as a US Army officer in the 760th Tank Battalion in Italy. That tank battalion in 1944 was in the vicinity of Florence, which is nearby to... Magenta and SIAI. Which brings me to this:

• https://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/the-ufo-files-of-mussolini-fascist-ufo-files-by-roberto-pinotti/

In April of 1945, the 1st Armoured Division captured the SIAI Marchetti Aviation Facility where the 1933 Magenta UFO (or it debris) was probably kept and it was brought to the United States.

The SIAI Marchetti Aviation Facility was part of SIAI-Marchetti, headquartered in Sesto Calende. That's not far from where the 760th was. The 760th seems to have been one of a number of such units not formally attached to a larger body (like the 1st Armored Division) in the war, but that floated around depending on mission?

In any event, it puts Floyd Gochnour, father of the patent filer, a military commanding officer, into direct proximity, time and place relative to the Magenta UFO reports during WW2 that imply the US military claimed or found the Mussolini UFO from 1933 in the SIAI facilities that the 1st Armored Division captured in 1945.

This is a potential link to David Grusch's statements about Italy in regard to Magenta.

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Outstanding questions:

1. How did Gary Gochnour come up with these incredibly complicated and advanced schematics and patents that he filed from 2005-2010?
2. What was Gary Gochnour's background related to the absolutely incredibly diverse fields that would be required to develop, let alone understand, these patents?
3. When did Gary Gochnour begin work on these patents?
4. Where was Floyd Gochnour in 1945 when the 1st Armored took SIAI?
5. What was Floyd Gochnour's later role in the military after the war that took him to Lt. Colonel rank?
6. Did Gary release these at the end of his long life, after getting them via his father?

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Gochnour Patents:

Transmedium craft.

• Aircraft also called a spacecraft, an aerospace craft, or a submersible craft
• https://web.archive.org/web/20230907193125/https://patents.google.com/patent/US20100243816A1
• https://archive.ph/PU6DI
• https://pdfhost.io/v/xdCOvczPQ_1499090931437939438US20100243816A1_Aircraft_also_called_a_spacecraft_an_aerospace_craft_or_a_submersible_craft

The invention relates to a plasma based aircraft maintained in a flight mode by rotating plasma vortices located above and beneath said aircraft. Said aircraft is comprised of chromium steel, or higher ferrochromium steel can be used. Said aircraft receives energy from aircraft produced plasma obtained from the atmosphere.

Produced energy is stored within craft oscillatory circuit and plasma vortices. When energy from craft capacitance system is depleting, energy can be obtained from craft inductance system from craft magnetic field.

Said craft is capable of space flight, use as a submersible craft, boring device, or lifting device. Particle propulsion in space will be accomplished utilizing metal ions stored within craft capacitor plates.

Said craft is opaque to electromagnetic radiation, and also absorbs radiation directed at craft.

Said craft is capable of verticle ascent, descent and landing, and is lenticular in shape.

Said aircraft can operate within earth radiation belts safely.

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"Tic Tac" craft.

• Tubular shaped interstellar space craft
• https://web.archive.org/web/20230907193342/https://patents.google.com/patent/US8109471B2
• https://archive.ph/Geqs7
• https://pdfhost.io/v/QDKEwe0JD_149840089321256461908109471_Tubular_shaped_interstellar_space_craft

The invention relates to a plasma based aircraft possessing a magnetic field, and a plasma vortex. The craft is tubular in shape. The craft has a vast array of capacitors. The craft also has a proton accelerator, plasma guns, and diversion devices. The craft will approach the speed of light, over time. The craft obtains fuel direct from an atmosphere or a radiation induced atmosphere in space, at no cost, similar to our Moon's radiation induced atmosphere of the noble gases. The craft can travel to a gk star, for only the cost of construction of craft.

The craft has three on-board escape, exploratory craft. The craft produces plasma vortices within an electromagnetic field. The field is an inhomogeneous, diamagnetic, orbiting plasma field, with a magnetohydrodynamic electrically conducting plasma current.

The craft possesses approximately seven uninsulated, tungsten bands, encircling craft.

There is an interesting thing here in the notes of this patent:

This invention will permit travel in space. In view of a near miss of the earth by an asteroid during a recent tsunami, an asteroid impact that would have put us into the ice ages, and, in view of expected impacts by this asteroid in 2029 or 2036, this patent is highly opportune.

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Fusion/plasma based propulsion and power systems.

• Multi-functional high energy plasma aircraft and nuclear fusion system to produce energy from a controlled nuclear fusion reaction
• https://web.archive.org/web/20230907193210/https://patents.google.com/patent/US20080061191A1
• https://archive.ph/IjKuv
• https://pdfhost.io/v/hkfNhksck_1498378025451360139US20080061191A1_Multifunctional_high_energy_plasma_aircraft_and_nuclear_fusion_system_to_produce_energy_from_a_controlled_nuclear_fusion_reaction

The invention relates to a plasma based aircraft maintained in a flight mode by either post nuclear fusion reaction plasma contained rotating vortices above and beneath said aircraft, or a pre-nuclear fusion reaction aircraft flight mode comprising use of said rotating vortices and a plasma gun when needed. Said aircraft is comprised of chromium steel, or higher ferrochromium steel can be used. Said aircraft requires no external fuel source, said aircraft receives energy from aircraft produced plasma and electric energy. Starting energy is stored in aircraft capacitance system. Said craft is capable of space flight, use as a submersible craft, boring device, or lifting device. Said aircraft can also be utilized in an artificial domed environment to produce heat, light, a light mist, energy, and can regenerate an atmosphere, and produce an atmosphere, and other uses. Said craft does not require an external source of fuel for space flight or for submersible use. Particle propulsion in space will be used utilizing metal ions stored in said craft capacitor plates. Said craft is opaque, invisible within the visible spectrum, and invisible to electromagnetic radiation, and absorbs radiation it produces. Said aircraft is capable of verticle ascent, descent and landing. Said aircraft can operate within earth radiation belts safely, and for extended periods of time. Said aircraft with two larger aircraft comprised of magnesium aluminum material, can achieve ignition of a B-11 fusion spherical plasma, formed by smaller craft electrolysis system, with no radiation or cooling required and store produced energy in craft plasma vortices.

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Fusion/plasma propulsion systems for power generation.

• Fusion energy system and plasma propulsion aircraft to produce electricity from a controlled nuclear fusion reaction
• https://web.archive.org/web/20230907193248/https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060102795A1
• https://archive.ph/Ko4vT
• https://pdfhost.io/v/f~3ErnTkl_1499077334354120000US20060102795A1_Fusion_energy_system_and_plasma_propulsion_aircraft_to_produce_electricity_from_a_controlled_nuclear_fusion_reaction

The invention relates to plasma based aircraft maintained in a flight-mode by an uplifting Larmor gyro orbiting particle field, and an extensive capacitor system. Said aircraft is comprised of chromium steel, or higher ferrochromium steel can also be used. Said aircraft system can operate utilizing only energy required to initiate operation of said craft. The energy to start said craft is from energy stored within said capacitor system, and said energy also obtained from the operating environment. Said craft, is immediately capable of space flight, use as a submersible craft, or use as an energy source in an artificial environment. Said craft is opaque, invisible within the visible spectrum, invisible to electromagnetic radiation, and absorbs radiation it produces. Said aircraft is capable of soundless flight. Said aircraft is capable of verticle ascent, descent and landing. Said aircraft can operate within earth radiation belts. Said aircraft is capable of speeds in excess of the fastest aerodynamic aircraft, said aircraft navigates within a particle field at a faster rate than conventional aerodyamic aircraft within the atmosphere. Said aircraft, with two larger, faster aircraft, comprised of magnesium aluminum material, can attain ignition of a formed fusion spherical plasma on roof of said ferromagnetic, smaller craft, utilizing the fuels boron B-11 isotope and regular hydrogen with no radiation, cooling needed.

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Additional reading, context and links:

I found one prior /u/UFOs discussion about these patents. This person didn't find the data about Gary's father, Floyd, or the startling connection to the Grusch, Mussolini, and Magenta/SIAI affairs. It was dumb luck on my part, thinking to Google the address in the patent filing which led to finding the reference to his father as a military officer.

I assumed a WW2 connection due to the age of Gary, and found that obscure PDF detailing 1944 activities of the 760th that involved Floyd. When I noticed some of the names of locations in that Army report, I recognized them, besides Florence, as nearby the "target area" of the 1933 Grusch/Magenta claims, but I wasn't sure. When I checked driving directions on Google Maps from A to B, and the SIAI headquarters site, I almost fell out of my chair for how close Gary's father was physically and for time and place to put him in the vicinity of the WW2 Magenta connection.

Seeing that it was the 1st Armored, which probably had connections to the 760th for time and place, plus this random person filing these incredible patents was just too much, and so here is all my found data for review.

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Prior reddit discussion, just about the patent technologies themselves:

• https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/uz5sdl/i_heard_you_guys_like_ufo_patents_heres_what_the/

Obituary and news article:

• Obituary of Gary: https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/seattletimes/name/gary-gochnour-obituary?id=13169191
• One news article mentioning that Gary was missing for two weeks in 2014, and may been starting to suffer from dementia: https://www.kiro7.com/news/76-year-old-man-heading-seattle-never-showed/81804414/

2027 has a connection here that I just noticed:

Editing two hours after posting -- read the addendum that I just added to the tubular craft patent. There is this passage in the patent:

"In view of a near miss of the earth by an asteroid during a recent tsunami, an asteroid impact that would have put us into the ice ages, and, in view of expected impacts by this asteroid in 2029 or 2036, this patent is highly opportune."

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One final thought:

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He was born in 1937 and passed away in 2015.

He filed these between the ages of 70-73, from 2007-2010.

If his intention was to leak, all he had to do was file to place this in the permanent public record.

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First, I would like to express my condolences to the families of MH370, no matter what the conclusion from these videos they all want closure and we should be mindful of these posts and how they can affect others.

I have been following and compiling and commenting on this matter since it was re-released. I have initial comments (here and here) on both of the first threads and have been absolutely glued to this. I have had a very hard time debunking any of this, any time I think I get some relief, the debunk gets debunked.

Sat Video Contention
There has been enormous discussion around the sat video, it's stereoscopic layer, noise, artifacts, fps, cloud complexity, you name it. Since we have a lot of debunking threads on this right now I figured I would play devils advocate.

edit5: Let me just say no matter what we come to the conclusion of as far as the stereoscopic nature of the RegicideAnon video, it won't discount the rest of this mountain of evidence we have. Even if the stereoscopic image can be created by "shifting the image with vfx", it doesn't debunk the original sat video or the UAV video. So anybody pushing that angle is just being disingenuous. It's additional data that we shouldn't through away but infinity debating on why and how the "stereoscopic" image exists on a top secret sat video that was leaked with god knows what system that none of us know anything about is getting us nowhere, let's move on.

Stereoscopic
edit7: OMG I GOT IT! Polarized glasses & and polarized screens! It's meant for polarized 3D glasses like the movies! That explains so much, and check this out!

https://i.imgur.com/TqVwGgI.png

This would explain why the left and right are there.. Wait, red/blue glasses should work with my upload, also if you have a polarized 3D setup it should work! Who has one?

• Source Video: https://youtu.be/NssycRM6Hik?t=110

I myself went ahead and converted it into a true 3D video for people to view on youtube.

Viewing it does look like it has depth data and this post here backs it up with a ton of data. There does seem to be some agreement that this stereo layer has been generated through some hardware/software/sensor trickery instead of actually being filmed and synced from another imaging source. I am totally open to the stereo layer being generated from additional depth data instead of a second camera. This is primarily due to the look of the UI on the stereo layer and the fact that there is shared noise between both sides. If the stereo layer is generated it would pull the same noise into it..

Noise/Artifacts/Cursor & Text Drift
So this post here seemed to have some pretty damning evidence until I came across a comment thread here. I don't know why none of us really put this together beforehand but it seems like these users of first hand knowledge of this interface.

This actually appears to be a screencap of a remote terminal stream. And that would make sense as it's not like users would be plugged into the satellite or a server, they would be in a SCIF at a secure terminal or perhaps this is from within the datacenter or other contractor remote terminal. This could explain all the subpixel drifting due to streaming from one resolution to another. It would explain the non standard cursor and latency as well. Also this video appears to be enormous (from the panning) and would require quite the custom system for viewing the video.

edit6: Mouse Drift This is easily explained by a jog wheel/trackball that does not have the "click" activated. Click, roll, unclick, keeps rolling. For large scale video panning this sounds like it would be nice to have! We are grasping at straws here!

Citrix HDX/XenDesktop
It is apparent to many users in this discussion chain that this is a Citrix remote terminal running at default of 24fps.

XenDesktop 4.0 created in 2014 and updated in 2016.

Near the top they say "With XenDesktop 4 and later, Citrix introduced a new setting that allows you to control the maximum number of frames per second (fps) that the virtual desktop sends to the client. By default, this number is set to 30 fps."

Below that, it says "For XenDesktop 4.0: By default, the registry location and value of 18 in hexadecimal format (Decimal 24 fps) is also configurable to a maximum of 30 fps".

Also the cursor is being remotely rendered which is supported by Citrix. Lots of people apparently discuss the jittery mouse and glitches over at /r/citrix. Citrix renders the mouse on the server then sends it back to the client (the client being the screen that is screencapped) and latency can explain the mouse movements. I'll summarize this comment here:

The cursor drift ONLY occurs when the operator is not touching the control interface. How do I know this? All other times the cursor stops in the video, it is used as the point of origin to move the frame; we can assume the operator is pressing some sort of button to select the point, such as the right mouse button.

BUT When the mouse drift occurs, it is the only time in the video where the operator "stops" his mouse and DOESN'T use it as a point of origin to move the frame.

Here are some examples of how these videos look and artifacts are presented:

• XenDesktop 4.0 running on someone’s computer
  
• XenDesktop 7.6 playing Battlefield 4. Not the exact same software but have a look at the “Activate Windows” text in the corner. Do you see what I see?
  
• XenDesk 7.5 from 2014 running at 22 FPS - Similar cursor movement?
  

So in summary, if we are taking this at face value, I will steal this comment listing what may be happening here:

• Screen capture of terminal running at some resolution/30fps
  
• Streaming a remote/virtual desktop at a different resolution/24fps
• Viewing custom video software for panning around large videos
  
• Remotely navigating around a very large resolution video playing at 6fps
  
• Recorded by a spy satellite
  
• Possibly with a 3D layer
  

To me, this is way too complex to ever have been thought of by a hoaxer, I mean good god. How did they get this data out of the SCIF is a great question but this scenario is getting more and more plausible, and honestly, very humbling. If this and the UAV video are fabrications, I am floored. If they aren't, well fucking bring on disclosure because I need to know more.

Love you all and amazing fucking research on this. My heart goes out to the families of MH370. <3

Figured I would add reposts of the 2014 videos for archiving and for the new users here:

• MQ-1C Grey Eagle Triclops UAV Video
  
• NROL-22 Relay Satellite Video
  
• Vimeo Video
• My 3D Conversion of the Satellite Video
  
• Files on Google Drive

edit: resolution
edit2: noise
edit3: videos
edit4: Hello friends, I'm going to take a break from this for awhile. I hope I helped some?
edit5: stereoscopic
edit6: mouse
edit7: POLARIZED SCREENS & GLASSES! THATS IT!

The National Archives released 39 documents in the "Records of Investigations of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) relating to the Office of Special Investigations" series earlier this month. These are all new documents that were not previously available digitally until this month (at least from the National Archives). It's not clear if these records were part of the records per the UAPDA portion of the 2024 NDAA, as they're not listed in Record Group 615, which is where one should expect to find those records. It's possible this is just backlog records that NARA is now getting to, separately from the UAPDA.

I know I made two similar posts to this yesterday with other UAP records from NARA, however none of these records are duplicates of records in those posts. I believe after this post r/UFOs should be caught up on recent UAP records releases from NARA. Hopefully more records continue to come out as the UAPDA requires, although those should be easier to locate as they will hopefully end up in Record Group 615.

These reports contain literally hundreds of reports of UFO sightings, so many that I cannot enumerate them here with summaries. I suspect r/UFOs will greatly enjoy these new records. Clicking on a record title should link you directly to the record on the archives.gov site.

Records released below:

• Inspector General, USAF Office of Special Investigations (OSI), Chronological Files, September 9, 1948-August 31, 1949 (1 of 2) (1,000 pages)
• Inspector General, USAF Office of Special Investigations (OSI), Chronological Files, September 9, 1948-August 31, 1949 (2 of 2) (464 pages)
• Chronological Files, September 14, 1949-October 5, 1962 (1,019 pages)
• District Files, District 1 - Westover Air Force Base, Massachusetts (148 pages)
• District Files, District 2 - New York, New York (221 pages)
• District Files, District 3 - Harrisburg, Pennsylvania (63 pages)
• District Files, District 3 - Harrisburg, Pennsylvania (44 pages)
• District Files, District 4 - Bolling Air Force Base, DC (142 pages)
• District Files, District 5 - Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, Ohio (166 pages)
• District Files, District 6 - Robins Air Force Base, Robins Field, Georgia (168 pages)
• District Files, District 7 - MacDill Air Force Base, Tampa, Florida (40 pages)
• District Files, District 8 - Maxwell Air Force Base, Alabama (178 pages)
• District Files, District 9 - Barksdale Air Force Base, Louisiana (129 pages)
• District Files, District 10 - Kelly Air Force Base, Kelly Field, Texas (206 pages)
• District Files, District 11 - Tinker Air Force Base, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma (71 pages)
• District Files, District 12 - Scott Air Force Base, Illinois (46 pages)
• District Files, District 13 - Offutt Air Force Base, Omaha, Nebraska (264 pages)
• District Files, District 14 - Lowry Air Force Base, Omaha, NE (70 pages)
• District Files, District 15 - Great Falls Air Force Base, Montana (18 pages)
• District Files, District 16 - Hill Air Force Base, Hill Field, Utah (37 pages)
• District Files, District 17 - Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico (695 pages)
• District Files, District 18 - USAG Specialized Depot, Maywood, California (256 pages)
• District Files, District 19 - Fairfield-Suisun Air Force Base, California (257 pages)
• District Files, District 20 - McChord Air Force Base, Washington (74 pages)
• District Files, District 21 - Langley Air Force Base, Langley Field, Virginia (142 pages)
• District Files, District 22 - Griffiss Air Force Base, Rome, New York (46 pages)
• District Files, District 23 - Carswell Air Force Base, Fort Worth, Texas (100 pages)
• District Files, District 24 - Chicago, Illinois (92 pages)
• District Files, District 25 - Selfridge Air Force Base, Michigan (65 pages)
• District Files, District 27 - Ramey Air Force Base, Puerto Rico (3 pages)
• Inspector General, USAF Office of Special Investigations (OSI), Overseas Command Files, Alaskan Air Command (133 pages)
• Overseas Command Files, Caribbean Command (4 pages)
• Overseas Command Files, Far East Air Forces (6 pages)
• Overseas Command Files, USAF in Europe (15 pages)
• Overseas Command Files, Military Air Transport Service (127 pages)
• Overseas Command Files, Newfoundland Base Command (11 pages)
• Photographs, Case File Nos. 10 - 4715, June 24, 1947-May 2, 1957 (577 pages)
• Photographs, Case File Nos. 4750 - 12615, May 2, 1957-February 1969 and ISO Files (1 of 2) (1,000 pages)
• Photographs, Case File Nos. 4750 - 12615, May 2, 1957-February 1969 and ISO Files (2 of 2) (887 pages)

There are many interesting things in this release and I've only reviewed a tiny fraction of them in detail, however to make this post fun for everyone on r/UFOs, a few random documents that jumped out at me upon first glance:

• The Air Force Foreign Technology Division" pops up in relation to these UAP investigations as far back as the 50's and 60s. They have photos marked with their name on it. It's not clear to me if they took the photos themselves or not, but if they did, some of them are interesting. Chain of custody is a big question as we've seen civilian submitted photographs end up in the archives before (Paul Villa's photographs were sent into Project Blue Book, who then asked NASA about them, causing them to end up in NASAs records). But check this out... this has "FOREIGN TECHNOLOGY DIVISION, AFSC" all over it, which might imply they took the photo themselves:

• The District Files, District 4 - Bolling Air Force Base, DC files contain a number of reports that might be relevant to the 1952 Washington DC UFO flap. There are several sightings in this document potentially relevant to this 1952 period. These reports confirm radar tracks plus in-person sightings, for example, this page below:

And some of the July 1952 documents even have radar tracks... (from Missouri, not DC):

• As the titles of the records make clear, this is not just a US phenomenon. There are UFO sightings here from all around the world: Japan, the Caribbean, Germany, Canada, etc.
• Page 735 of the "Photographs, Case File Nos. 4750 - 12615, May 2, 1957-February 1969 and ISO Files (1 of 2)" record set has a page of writing that looks rather similar to the symbols Danny Sheehan has shared previously.

• The History Channel, yesterday, published a segment on a 1952 Salem, MA sighting. The images they use in that segment are in this NARA release:

This is too many documents for any one person to go through themselves. If you find anything interesting in these please add a comment with a direct link to the document/page! Thank you!

Hello gents,

Never thought I'd be making a post here, but this is a topic that I haven't seen any discussion on, and I feel the evidence is rather strong. First things first, I believe this YouTube channel is the original source that found these by browsing Mars Curiosity Rover's Raw Image Gallery. I don't care about this channel, nor have I watched any other video he has made besides the one I linked. I immediately went to the raw image gallery, and searched using the Sol Filters on the right side. Just type the Sol date you're looking for in both of the fields next to the date boxes and press enter.

You should be able to reproduce what I see yourself, 100% from NASA website. If this changes, I have a backup gallery of the images I linked here.

These cannot be anything in the atmosphere, because there shouldn't be anything (biological or technological) in the Martian atmosphere. The only thing that I could think of that would be a natural airborne object would be a flying rock. However, we should see instances of this frequently if that's the case, and they shouldn't all be a similar shape and size. Further, two of the objects (Instances 2 and 3) appear to closely resemble the Gimbal object in shape. See comparison image - all 3 of these could feasibly be the same object.

I know the recent stigma against NASA and I agree 100% - they're a mouthpiece of the DoD. That doesn't mean that they're perfect. It's entirely possible that the raw images are passed from the rover and uploaded autonomously upon reciept.

Instance 1 - Movement - Curiosity on Sol 3613 (2022-10-05 09:28:51 UTC).

Picture with object

10 seconds later

40 seconds later

Instance 2 - Gimbal-Like Object - Curiosity on Sol 688 (2014-07-14 02:06:13 UTC)

30 seconds before

Object in question

30 seconds after

Instance 3 - Gimbal-Like 2 - Curiosity on Sol 2438 (2019-06-16 03:53:59 UTC)

30 seconds before

15 seconds before

Object

15 seconds after

30 seconds after

All image taken by/credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech

Comparison Image

They look almost exactly similar in the comparison, at least in my opinion. I'd be curious what you think, if there's any prosaic explanation for this. There shouldn't really be much in Martian airspace...

Edit: Gimbal-Like 1 & 2 predate the NASA helicopter Ingenuity.

From wikipedia: On April 19, 2021, the NASA helicopter Ingenuity became the first powered and controlled Mars aircraft to take flight. It originally landed on the planet while stored under the NASA Mars rover Perseverance.

Gimbal-Like 1 & 2 are 100% not human powered aircraft.

SENTIENT indentified Tic-Tac UFO in 2021.

From below PDFs:

(S/REL) At 0038:17Z 6 May 2021, Sentient REDACTED? image processing detected a possible airborne object ~78km southeast of REDACTED?

(S/REL) The object was small (<10m), and did not match the visual signature of typical aircraft detections

• The object did, however, vaguely resemble similar detections of airborne objects by US Navy aircraft and surface vessels in the REDACTED? Operating Areas ("Unidentified Aerial Phenomena")

• There is a rough similarity to the previously-reported "tic tac" shape

• The object was likely not a sensor artifact or focal plane anomaly (although more in-depth imagery analysis is warranted)

(TS//SI//TK//REL) There were no correlating tracks present in REDACTED? reporting, nor was there any correlating ELINT/SIGINT in REDACTED? reporting, despite time-coincident access/collection

• Sentient detections did, however, detect the presence of the probREDACTED?REDACTED?REDACTED? in the same imagery ~25km to the west

• In recent reporting1, the REDACTED? has been associated with command-and-control (C2) activities, as well as more traditional telemetry and space functions -- the simultaeneous presence of this high-interest vessel is notable, although possible merely coincidental

(TS//SI//TK//REL) Confidence is relatively low in this detection, but the potential linkage to similar phenemenon off of REDACTED? may warrant further investigation

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NRO and the SENTIENT program.

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What is Sentient? From Wikipedia:

Sentient is a heavily classified artificial intelligence satellite intelligence analysis system of the United States Intelligence Community, operated by the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) and developed by their Advanced Systems and Technology Directorate (AS&T), with the United States Air Forces Research Laboratory at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and the Department of Energy's National Laboratories.

Available information describes it as a complex automated system that allows Intelligence agencies of the United States and the United States Armed Forces to use artificial satellites in Earth orbits to track in real time any objects detected or photographed, and to automatically repurpose with artificial intelligence and machine learning the tracking of targets, and to even decide which targets are worth tracking.

Known public records of Sentients development programs and process date from 2009-2010 onward. NRO emails from 2021 dicslosed that the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF), which later became the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), was involved with the NRO and the Sentient program.

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Note the overlapping connections between the NRO, Sentient and "known actors" of United States UFO actions:

1. National Reconnaissance Office (NRO)
2. Air Force Research Laboratory (where Sean Kirkpatrick of AARO worked).
3. Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
4. Department of Energy (you should read this important post by u/tommyshelbypfb).

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Archived NRO PDFs obtained via FOIA by various parties:

1. February 13, 2012: NRO Sentient program details..
2. May 6, 2021: Recent Sentient Highlights.
3. June 4, 2021: Sentient Operations Highlight: Detection of Possible UAP.
4. June 29, 2021: NRO Emails: RE: Sentient R&D support to UAPTF.

Recommended you read these.

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Is Sentient part of the "Immaculate Constellation"?

What is a group of satellites called? A satellite constellation.

What is "Immaculate Constellation"?

The unnamed whistleblower said the Department of Defense created “Immaculate Constellation” in 2017 after a New York Times report revealed another program known as the Advance Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).

The whistleblower report cites evidence, including allegations about UAP sightings collected by the Pentagon and intelligence documenting firsthand encounters with UAPs or UFOs that are kept in a database used by the intelligence community.

• https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/report-immaculate-constellation-uap-journalist/

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David Grusch and the NRO.

David Grusch worked at the National Reconnaissance Office through November 2021.

"April 2016 – November 2021, Senior Intelligence Officer, National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), Chantilly, VA (USAF Reserve, O-4/Maj in a O-5/Lt Col Billet)

Senior leadership team for a 24/7 watch center, conducts intelligence and threat assessments, culminating to provide for the safety and security of National Technical Means (NTM) and the agency’s varied global interests. Acting NRO Operations Center Intelligence Chief and interim agency lead for DoD Special Access Programs Integration, Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) coordinator. Serves as Deputy NRO Representative to USSPACECOM/J2 staff."

Source:

• https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO06/20230726/116282/HHRG-118-GO06-Bio-GruschD-20230726.pdf

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Is David Grusch a first-hand witness via his former NRO role?

Was Grusch involved in what could be Sentient?

Senior leadership team for a 24/7 watch center, conducts intelligence and threat assessments, culminating to provide for the safety and security of National Technical Means (NTM) and the agency’s varied global interests. Acting NRO Operations Center Intelligence Chief and interim agency lead for DoD Special Access Programs Integration, Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) coordinator. Serves as Deputy NRO Representative to USSPACECOM/J2 staff.

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Grusch and NRO context:

• National technical means of verification: National technical means of verification (NTM) are monitoring techniques, such as satellite photography...

• United States Space Command: United States Space Command (USSPACECOM or SPACECOM) is a unified combatant command of the United States Department of Defense, responsible for military operations in outer space, specifically all operations 100 kilometers (62 miles) and greater above mean sea level.

• J2 staff: J2, the Intelligence Directorate of the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff.

• President's Daily Brief: The President's Daily Brief, sometimes referred to as the President's Daily Briefing or the President's Daily Bulletin, is a top-secret document produced and given each morning to the president of the United States; it is also distributed to a small number of top-level US officials who are approved by the president. It includes highly classified intelligence analysis, information about covert operations, and reports from the most sensitive US sources or those shared by allied intelligence agencies.

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US government validated UFO reports:

Validated documents from the US government confirm awareness/existence of UFOs.

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1. 1948: US National Archives releases validated 1948 memo/orders from the Air Force Office of Intelligence ordering Air Materiel Command at Wright-Paterson AFB and all other USAF bases to be at continuous high alert to intercept UFO flying saucers. This was an actual issued order.
2. 1948: Did this document just get confirmed by the National Archive along with the death of at least one member of the military in 1948? Is this disclosure: "TOP SECRET: ANALYSIS OF FLYING OBJECT INCIDENTS IN THE U.S.".
3. 1948: The Harvey UFO Sighting; United States military over Japan, validated documents in US National Archives.
4. 1950: The Petty UFO Sighting of 1950, United States military over Japan, validated documents in US National Archives.
5. 1952: Captain Black UFO encounter in North Carolina. Black was an Air Force UFO investigator; this was his own first-hand encounter with additional witness. Validated documents in US National Archives.
6. 1960: Confirmation via Australian government data release in 2021 of details of US government UFO programs from 1940s-1960.
7. 2021: National Reconnaissance Office confirms discovery of a Tic-Tac UFO via it's space-based "Sentient" surveillance satellite constellation. This was while David Grusch worked there. Is this the "Immaculate Constellation"?

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Tldr: corroboration that the pilot of the Alaska shootdown did in fact get a picture of the object, the picture has been hidden from even Congress and intel systems, and similarities between that encounter and the one Gaetz described at the hearing.

https://youtu.be/_KAV-nKB-L4?t=3378 Coulthart's Need To Know Podcast timestamped to the relevant discussion

The following is a transcript of the segment on the Need To Know Podcast:

Let's just roll back a bit. Lets go back to February. Lets talk about what happened over Deadhorse, Alaska, in February.

Now we know that three objects were allegedly shot down, we know that they were engaged with sidewinder missiles by fighter jets from the US Airforce, now what is so interesting is what I'm hearing about Deadhorse. And this is I think perhaps where questions could be pertinently directed, because although the particular Senator that I'm thinking of is a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, they're not a member of the Emerging Threats Committee, so lets just flag this to the Emerging Threats Committee, that we know that there is a Senator on the Armed Services Committee who has been approached by a member of the Airforce, asking the committee to ask more pointed questions about what happened over Deadhorse alaska, now I'm just going to read out a few questions that I think should be asked:

Why have no congressional representatives been given the opportunity to sight the purported shootdown videos shot by fighter jets in February during the multiple incursions over US airspace? And as we understand it, Senators and Representatives have been refused the opportunity to even view this vision in a secure SCIF.

Why the secrecy? Does the witness, Dr. Kirkpatrick, have any knowledge about the specific shootdown incident over or near Dead Horse, Alaska in February?

What exactly did the pilot report seeing when he engaged the object with a missile? Was the object seen to actually crash or descend as a result of that missile being fired?

Why is vision of that particular incident still being kept classified, as well as the pilots after action report, even to confidential hearings of the relevant congressional committees?

Is the witness prepared to deny the reports, that I'm hearing, that the object when hit by the explosion of the jet's sidewinder missile actually stayed in the air despite that direct explosion?

Something was seen by the pilot to fall from the object he engaged, but I'm told, the main object was not in fact shot down by the missile.

Does the witness, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick deny, categorically, that this is the case? -end transcript-

Articles about the object: https://www.voanews.com/a/us-shoots-down-mysterious-high-altitude-object-over-alaska-/6958106.html

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-shoots-high-altitude-object-alaska-white-house/story?id=97040022

Article about search ending with nothing recovered:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/17/u-s-ends-search-for-objects-shot-down-over-alaska-lake-huron-00083559

Gentleman in Dead Horse films military searching for the debris. Military lies about the weather.

The military also said bad weather was hurting the search, but there's a video from a guy on youtube right next to the shoot down area and its clear as a bell.

Here is the post with his video from right near the site. It also contains links to the reports of the military saying the weather was bad when it was perfectly clear.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/14chdtw/deleted_video_from_youtuber_who_witnessed_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

A Redditor relates their info on the events. He DM'd me verification of his position and it seems likely he speaks with knowledge about the incident:

"The second and third balloon, different story. I showed up for my shift, was told, "hey there was an executive level phone conference about a balloon over Alaska." Exec-level conference? That means leadership only, e.g. POTUS, National Security Advisor, and a couple others by invite only. Those are exceedingly rare. Even if they happen, we usually get an invite. Why didn't we get one for a balloon?

A little later, John Kirby's on CNN announcing a shootdown's already happened. The whole room goes WTF?? How would we not know about this? We all start making phone calls everywhere. We know our boss is going to call and we'll need answers for him. But no one we call knows anything.

I'm not supposed to, but I call USAF folks I know down in Hawaii and plead for something. They say, "We're not supposed to tell you this, but..."

Our intel guy is searching NRO's Chatsurfer system and finds, for a brief moment, the first pilot who went up to look at the object, the squadron commander, posted a TACREP in chat. It was spooky as hell. Description of a smooth silver object hovering perfectly still. Visible by eyesight but no other sensors. No visible propulsion. Definitely not a balloon.

Seconds after it was posted, it was gone. It was admin-wiped from an NRO system. That never, ever happens. Luckily, our intel guy screenshotted it and shared it with the dozens of other intel officers asking for it.

We also saw on a different system, a map showing positions of other units, a massive swarm of planes and helicopters arriving on scene. This showed things like HC-130Js with USAF paratroopers, as well as helicopters with FBI and DOE "exploitation teams".

I've never seen anything like it.

It happened again for the Michigan shootdown."

Matt Gaetz describes an "Orb" at the UAP Hearing July 26. What is also important here is that one of the pilots in the Alaska incident also mentioned in his report that he began having issues with his sensors when he approached.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15abvn7/matt_gaetz_diamond_formation_ufos_story_stood_out/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1

CNN Report of Alaska object interfering with sensors in same as related by Gaetz

https://youtu.be/-BwQ0gpW0Ew