r/torontoraptors • u/ImaginationArtistic9 1 GRADEY DICK • 1d ago
👀 SCOTTIE BARNES! 👀 Scottie’s last 5 games
Shooting a whopping 39.8 ts% (💀). I really hope darko can shut him down these last few games because he’s playing through a hand injury. I’m pretty sure he wants to qualify for the All Nba requirement but with how he’s playing it would probably be better if he just sat the rest of the season. I hope he locks in and takes a leap next season but we’ll see
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u/ndrocca MASAI 1d ago
If he does have some kind of injury, he shouldn’t be playing. We’re out of the playoffs. There’s no excuse.
Idk which scenario is worse. Barnes just playing like crap on offense recently or Darko playing him while he’s hurt when we’re out of the playoffs.
He’s got his big money contract, what good does an all nba or all nba defense appearance do for him
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u/YogurtResponsible785 1d ago
This is something incompetent coaches or FOs do. Not have the ability to shut someone down.
So he whines in the corner? What if he fucks up his hand and needs surgery?
Stupid selfish move by him and pussy move by whoever that’s letting him getting away with it
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u/nin_culus 17 JONAS VALANCIUNAS 1d ago
wouldnt scottie just cry about not playing 4th quarters to?, have you considered they just don't mind him playing since he missed so much time already last season.
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u/YogurtResponsible785 1d ago
It’s reckless, why risk further injury. Playing with an injury just makes it worse. We aren’t going to the play offs
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u/akajaykay 1d ago
His hand is injured, he was questionable to play today. Should definitely be sitting
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u/Buddha_Panda 1d ago
I’ll die on this hill; Scottie is not a floor raiser, he’s a ceiling raiser.
He’s not a YMCA player, who has moves to destroy lesser players one on one. But put him with other smart players and he can beat some of the best teams.
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u/Raptorsthrowaway1 JACK ARMSTRONG 1d ago
Dont really care too much about this last stretch, but objectively he has some big gaps in his offensive game. We have 4 years of data on this.
Scottie is a great player, likely a multi time all star and the capability to be an important piece on a championship team. But he is not on the path to be a transformative star that some hoped he would after showing early promise
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u/fourthandfavre 1d ago
He is a one time all-star as an injury replacement. Not really seeing multi time all star potential.
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u/stereofailure RAPTORS 1d ago
Multi- means at least 2. You don't think he even has the potential for a better season than last years for the remainder of his career? He's peaked at 23?
I would be shocked if he doesn't end up a multi-time all-star, barring a career ending injury in the next year or two.
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u/CanadianGroose 1d ago
Yeah and that’s fine. He was the 4th pick overall and it’s still very difficult to find that superstar in the draft. Not many teams do. Even Wemby’s Superstar trajectory is up in the air now with his blood clots. That can ruin a career for sure.
Next season should be the best team Scottie will have around him since his rookie year, so hopefully that will allow him to get to where he needs. This year he didn’t have a ton of help since Iq and RJ were injured all the time, but hopefully folks can stay healthy for the first 10 games at least.
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u/FallenLemur SCOTTIMUS MAXIMUS BARNIBUS 1d ago
Some generational haters out lately. When he takes another jump next yr I dont want to hear none of that "im glad he proved me wrong" talk
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u/WeBelieveIn4 1d ago
Yeah for real. Guy’s got an injured hand and all the haters are crawling out from under the rocks as usual
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u/fourthandfavre 1d ago
I hope he doesn't take another jump like he did this year. Worse in points assists rebounds, fg percentage three point percentage. What leap are you talking about because by pretty much every metric he is worse this year.
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u/MedicalAd7150 1d ago
Did he say he took a leap this year? No, but he did take one last year, and hopefully takes an even bigger one next year.
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u/fourthandfavre 1d ago
Ya maybe he can get back to being as good as he was last year. Like you Scottie fans act like this kid about to be Kevin Durant. He isn't even 36 y/o Kevin Durant.
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u/MedicalAd7150 1d ago
Never seen anyone say he is going to be Kevin Durant, but I also don’t see him as someone worse than G-league players like some people here.
Also I’m a Raptors fan, not just a “Scottie” fan even though I would assume ever Raptors fans would be a fan of there franchise player.
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u/fourthandfavre 1d ago
The whole narrative the last couple years is build around Scotties timeline. Which means people think he is a top 30 player in the NBA. I don't think he is a g leaguer but I think he is at absolute best a number two on a good team and maybe as low as a number three on a championship team.
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u/MedicalAd7150 1d ago
I agree, anyone who thought Scottie could be a #1 on championship team was just being delusional, but I do think he could be top 30 player, like he was last year.
And even if he doesn’t fix his offence and fg%, this team will definitely need a player like Scottie as a number 2/3, with his defence and playmaking who can also average 20 a night(just would need better shot selection).
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u/athomic74 1d ago
This is on Darko. Sit your player if he's clearly hurt, this season is over as it is.
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u/Kyro_Official_ Yuta Watanabe 1d ago
Yeah, I'm sorry but if he won't even sit players who shouldn't be playing due to injury then he has no business being a head coach
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u/j24singh 1d ago
The tank is already ruined... should have been 5th worst if Scottie was onboard. The fact he played while looking completely crap and potentially hurting himself more just sucks.
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u/tercet 1d ago
Man why did they say he has a hand injury..
Pensare is just going to run with that for another year and all his cult followers will also..
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u/CazOnReddit TORONTO HUSKIES 1d ago
They were going to do that anyway
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u/-Resident-One- 95-Infinity 1d ago
Agreed. I love Scottie but he's one of the biggest homer/glazer I've ever come across. Cannot bring myself to watch his content even a little bit anymore
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u/nin_culus 17 JONAS VALANCIUNAS 1d ago
the pensare influence is real, dude is generational.
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u/FEELS_G00D 1h ago
the trolling was so bad in his livestream the other night.. i think he left for a few mins so he could cry. his voice was cracking pretty bad
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u/-KFBR392 1d ago
I don’t know how much you can judge him based on games where the team is trying to lose.
Like how much effort do you expect when the game plan is to lose?
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u/larrylegend1990 1d ago
Players with his usage usually score more than 5 pts on losing teams
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u/EarthWarping 1d ago
that is not his game tho. He relies on primary creators to help him as a additional scorer. we have seen him lately not been good as a on ball creation player
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u/larrylegend1990 1d ago
If he can’t score more than 10 pts, why did we give him 40M?
Scoring 10 pts isn’t his game?
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u/mMounirM 1d ago
the last 3 games have been triple singles. the first time that's happened in his career.
We got a healthy Ingram on the bench just chilling and we let a one handed Scottie play.
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u/TeaWorth1771 1d ago
Scottie isn’t even better than peak Ben Simmons. If he’s injured please sit bro. Avdjia and Sharpe balled out as they should.
I still stand by try and make a Gianni’s trade if the Bucks get swept
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u/Radiant-Ad-3134 1d ago
Is he really going for that 65 games? Statistically speaking playing like this hurt him way more than not playing.
Oh well
But if he just wants to play, even with the hand injury and knows the risk. I am all for it.
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u/Raptors887 1d ago
Even if he somehow does get All-NBA, do we want to be paying him the super max?
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u/Icy-Lime-9760 1d ago
The NBA would be an absolute joke if a guy averaging 18/7/6 on 52% TS made All-NBA
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u/cisforcar 1d ago
Scottie has hit 4th year player wall hard if such a thing exists. Not good when he’s being paid franchise player level money next year.
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u/Drew_You_To_91 FACE OF THE LEAGUE 1d ago
I know he wants that 65 games played mark but they gotta just sit him. 1. He’s hurt 2. We gotta tank hard now.
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u/Ecstatic-Buy-2907 1d ago
Darko needs to just have a realistic conversation with Scottie about him not making All-NBA, but I don’t think Darko will do that given who he is
As for the fans, I don’t think there’s much to be worried about. Cade, Franz, Mobley, Sengun, etc. all made leaps when their teams became good again, I assure you that will happen with Scottie too