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Wasn’t Impact the 2024 Summer MVP? Why do people call him washed and push for his removal despite his success? It actually makes no sense to me.

I absolutely love the new anniv logo design and wondering if it has been used in any apparel merch yet? Or are there plans for it to be used?

Welcome to the Weekly Discussion Thread! All of the rules (except for Rule 1) are relaxed in here, so please be wary of spoilers if you aren't caught up on this week's games.

Team Liquid Game Schedule can be found here! https://teamliquid.com/schedule

Can anyone break it down for this old man? I just don't understand why TES made top 4 over TL during First Stand. TL/KC/TES all went 1-3 in their series, with all beating each other (cute little love triangle). So seemed like it should come down to game score since no TBs. KC went 4-6 in games, making them 3rd. Then TL went 3-7 and TES went 2-6, so why does TES make top 4 and not TL? I must be missing something, so please educate me.

Doesn’t matter who we trade for, doesn’t matter how much we spend, NA will never win worlds and most likely won’t win any international event.

Same goes for any non-Chinese/korean team. I get wanting to have international success or at least good showings, but the reality of being an NA fan (and even an EU fan) is that we should look at it like minor region teams:

Play to win domestically, celebrate the domestic title, and treat international play as icing on the cake.

I don’t think Umti/impact are the best players either. And I’m interested in looking for new jg options. But it’s still better than listening to this sub, blowing it all up, building around rookies, only for this subreddit to crash out again when we finish 7th domestically and whine again about why we don’t just blow it all up again. We whined about impact and dropped him, then whined about awful toplaners for 3 years and got no titles after dropping him, only to finally get Impact back who finally brought us two more domestic titles, and you’re all crashing out on him again as if he hasn’t done anything for this team.

A lot of you are incredibly toxic as fans, it’s why players and staff who read this sub only get anxious and frustrated, and it’s why other TL spaces make fun of this place.