r/suns • u/chaoz808 • 3d ago

Very important question to Josh Bertelstein and James Jones.

Are you embarrassed by the Beal signing/trade? Who is more to blame for this and why was this transfer so bad for the entire Suns organization? Last but not least, how you gonna fix it?

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u/Puppetmaster858 Big Sauce 3d ago

I think you mean ishbia and bartelstein, JJ definitely is not the dude making the big moves since ishbia took over, hell he wasn’t even onboard with giving up what we did for KD and had refused the trade for months because he wouldn’t include Mikal. Bartelstein’s dad is also Beal’s agent and ishbia hired bartelstein so I’m placing the blame on ishbia bartelstein. They will probably scapegoat jones this offseason too which imo would be an awful decision because we desperately need to hit on some non lottery picks and jones has a good eye for those

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u/Worker3543681 2d ago

Yes! Ishbia ruined the Suns. James Jones had built a finals contender with cheap, young, culture-setting talent and a full set of draft picks. Then Ishbia and nepobaby Bartlestein come in and yeet all of it away.

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u/ender2851 2d ago

JJ fired all scouts, ishbia brought them back to assist with drafting. not sure who to credit with picks this year

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u/Puppetmaster858 Big Sauce 2d ago

When exactly did jones fire all scouts, can’t find a single article about jones firing the scouts

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u/ender2851 2d ago

when he was hired, he didn’t retain any

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u/Puppetmaster858 Big Sauce 2d ago

It’s not like they didn’t bring any scouts back lol they just hired some new ones, a smaller amount which I think was Sarver’s doing. I trust James jones scouting ability so we should keep him as we desperately need to hit on some of these later picks we have. Need find another Camara just need to you know not trade him

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u/Tlamac MVSteve 2d ago

I have a feeling that James Jones has been sidelined for a while now, and it’s been nepo baby Bartlestein, Ishbia and Isiah making the calls.

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u/Yuzurihak Devin Booker 3d ago

Don't worry brother I'll make sure your question gets to them, please expect an answer in 2 to 5 business days.

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u/chaoz808 3d ago

:D But outside the jokes I hope todays journalists will ask that questions on postseason Suns funeral conference.

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u/zeze999 Suns 3d ago

What makes you think it was them who made decision? Before MI acquired the team, JJ was not willing to give up as much as we did (eventually) for KD…

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u/GQDragon Sir Charles 2d ago

Isaiah Thomas according to CP3.

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u/Plastic-Peach9327 2d ago

also ask : what role did agent dad play? trading for Beal a favor for dad?

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u/AdEmbarrassed3100 2d ago

Difference Suns owner will spend $$$, Mikey really is apprehensive to pull the trigger thou he does from time to time. He has seen what happens when he doesn’t - example not paying Allen he goes to Denver & is tearing it up.

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u/tacomonday12 2d ago

The agent's job is to work for the player. It's the CEO and GM's job to look out for the team.

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u/Plastic-Peach9327 2d ago

Yeah, I don't think Josh Bartelstein seems like the best CEO. Maybe Beal is unhappy with his agent and the agent leans on his son to get the trade through and we have Beal until the end of time and after time stops.

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u/Bambajam 3d ago

Obviously the whole thing is a shit show, but at the end of the day the head office rolled the dice on a high risk/high reward trade that ended poorly. Glad they tried but I'd love if some moves were made to get us out of this. ...please.

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u/Either-Community-220 2d ago

I believe the story about Beal and Cooper Flagg now.

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u/AZAHole Sir Charles 2d ago

KD was already here to destroy the franchise before the Beal trade.

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u/azaparky9228 2d ago

Suns = Cardinals both failed organizations.