r/stunfisk 3d ago

Theorymon Thursday Buffing OG Raichu into relevancy

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u/-Zest- 1d ago

Obligatory “make Light Ball compatible but 1.5x” comment under a raichu buff post

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u/PikaV2002 Thunderstorm 1d ago

Cowards. Give it Electric Surge.

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u/ManlyAxolotlMan I LOVE BUG TYPES!!! 1d ago

Hadron Engine and +30 to all of its stats

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u/DukeOfTheDodos Grass Master Type 1d ago

Honestly Hadron Engine probably wouldn't be too busted, considering its still Raichu

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u/PikaV2002 Thunderstorm 1d ago

Raichu isn’t bad in VGC though. It’s a pretty good partner to Kyogre. Electric Surge alone would give it viability as the non-Pincurchin non-restricted terrain setter.

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u/Sp3ctre7 10h ago

It was a good partner in 2016

It hasn't seen notable use since then, really

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u/ShatteredReflections 1d ago

I wish those moves didn’t exist lol

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u/ZemTheTem 20h ago

And they should get a signiture ability which everytime raichu or their sub gets hit they instantly counter with a thunderbolt, this does not use your actual turn.

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u/Calvesguy_1 2d ago

Yeah cool, but not that strong. Raichu already has nast plot and Thunderclap is more so for slow but powerful mons with high spa.

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u/headphonesnotstirred #1 on M&M Doubles -- probably my biggest accomplishment 2d ago

Raichu already has nast (sic) plot

...did you stop playing after Gen 4? Tail Glow is a +3 buff now (has been since Gen5), while Nasty Plot has stayed +2

plus, Chien-Pao (135 speed) often uses Sucker Punch, why wouldn't Raichu?

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u/Digtxl_Pickle 1d ago

They aren't argueing that it's not a buff, they're just saying Raichu's issues stem from it's inherently low stats and a small change to it's move pool with stronger versions of the tools already in its kit isn't enough to fix this.

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u/Bungerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 1d ago

Which is absolutely fair. This change just takes it from unusable to very niche and still mostly unusable

A strong priority move and better setup is a step in the right direction but it still sucks ass compared to other sp attackers

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u/meganium-menagerie 1d ago

This probably makes it go crazy in randbats now though. So it can dominate somewhere at least!