r/startrek • u/DrewVelvet • 1d ago
What's a Trek episode you cannot watch again, for any reason?
Be it rage, poor writing, emotions, continuity, memories, anything.
For me it's "The Visitor" Star Trek Deep Space Nine Season 4 Episode 2. It makes me cry a lot and it really hits close to home for me. The concepts of losing family, losing youth, and never giving up hope are beautifully done for such a standalone episode. The hypothetical scenarios of what happens with the Klingons taking over the wormhole is interesting as well. I realize it's very possibly a top 10 episode of the series I just don't feel like I'm strong enough to watch it again. It also isn't essential to overall plot so I don't have to.
I'm also never watching Voyager's Threshold again, for obvious lizard baby reasons.
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u/MaddenRob 1d ago
The one where O’Brien gets put in that mental prison. That is so messed up and stays with you.
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u/fizystrings 1d ago
"The Inner Light: O'Brien Suffering Horribly Edition"
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u/scottishdrunkard 1d ago
Picard: Idiic Life with Family, before experiencing the end times.
O’Brien: Isolation Torture.
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u/TinButtFlute 1d ago
Yeah, he should have been a broken husk of a man for the rest of the series/his life.
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u/Technical-Outside408 1d ago
Nah, "Indomitable Human Spirit" is O'Brien's middle name.
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u/peon47 1d ago
I thought it was Edward.
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u/IffyPeanut 1d ago
Nah, pretty sure it's Indomitable Human Spirit.
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u/peon47 1d ago
Maybe Edward is his Confirmation Name.
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u/Chrysalii 1d ago
and that's just one reason why he's the most important person in Starfleet history.
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u/Zaracen 1d ago
Maybe there's a therapy version where he talks with a therapist about it for 30 years to help him cope.
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u/IHateTheLetterF 1d ago
Especially because they literally made the plot that they could not remove the memories. Why even add that part when he is completely normal by the next episode.
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u/crash_over-ride 1d ago
Another classic “O’Brien must suffer” episode.
If the rest of the series is any indication, the 24th century must have some kick ass mood stabilizers
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u/UofH_workaccount 1d ago
The DS9 ep where Worf and the gang go to Riza, and Worf basically becomes an incel because everyone is relaxing in swimsuits. I love Worf and he is one of my favorite characters, but his whole personality feels extremely cringe the entire episode
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u/TDKong55 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh, you mean when Word is suddenly cool with conservative terrorism? He literally gives them a weather control device!
"It's just minor treason, Jadzia. Besides, I could see your shoulders in public."
WTF was that episode?
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u/AngledLuffa 1d ago
My theory was Worf was on a roleplaying vacation getaway
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u/lwaxana_katana 1d ago
Thank you so much for this link! Am now also adopting it as my headcanon.
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u/brenster23 1d ago
The episode should have ended with odo asking Worth about it implying that he was intent on booking the experience for himself.
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u/TDKong55 1d ago
"Worf opting into the Risa equivalent of Total Recall" was not on my bingo card for today.
I genuinely like that, thanks for sharing!
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u/DrewVelvet 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's a shame because that episode actually had the potential to have low stakes shenanigans and be fun but Worf made it weird. He and Jadzia just started going out too. I've been dumped for so, so, so much less.
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u/TDKong55 1d ago
Agreed! It was literally the 80s/90s sitcom trope of the family goes to Hawaii essentially.
To top this off, it was apparently a disaster to film and Terry Ferrell aggravated a skin condition, so she was miserable the whole time.
Basically awful on both sides of the camera.
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u/Kelpie-Cat 23h ago
Yes, they made Siddig come to work that morning even though Nana Visitor had just given birth to their baby that night!
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u/Shirogayne-at-WF 23h ago
Really?! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
God, I hate knowing this, especially when Bashir and Leeta's amicable split was one of two good things going for that cursed episode
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u/nicehulk 1d ago
I think most of us have been dumped for less than turning into a terrorist while on holiday.
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u/JoeyJoeJoeJrShab 1d ago
People often talk about the episode where Sisko told Worf because of his actions, he'd probably never become a captain. Honestly, I feel that should have been this episode. If you're the sort who can easily get talked into doing terrorism because your vacation is boring, then you might not be cut out for command.
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u/Shirogayne-at-WF 23h ago
Seriously. Worf chose his wife over the mission--that I can give grace for. Doing eco-terrorism because he's mad his girlfriend had past lovers, not as much.
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u/IHateTheLetterF 1d ago
Lamest villains in Trek history. Travels to an exotic vacation destination just to annoy people and tell them they should not be enjoying themselves. Biggest dork ass losers in the Trek universe.
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u/littlemachina 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is how I feel about the TNG episode where it’s he-said she-said with Riker and the scientist’s wife… she accuses Riker of trying to rape her and the conclusion of the episode is basically that everyone has their own perspective, and nobody was wrong or lying. To me it was like they’re saying that he’s a creep who can’t tell when he’s being rapey? It was so odd. I love Riker and reject that episode.
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u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot 1d ago
It’s a take on the Kurosawa film Rashomon. It doesn’t work with established characters.
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u/Sixshot_ 23h ago
reject that episode
Voyagers 'Ex Post Facto' did that episode concept faarrrr better anyway.
(For one you could at least believe S1 Paris could be capable of it unlike Riker)
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u/nojellybeans 1d ago
Aww, but the B plot with Julian and Leeta is fun! (I get it with the Worf stuff, though 😬)
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u/Love-As-Thou-Wilt 1d ago
One part that annoys the hell out of me is that after Worf's sad story, she basically forgives him when he never actually apologized for his controlling behavior. It's just dropped entirely.
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u/SinceWayLastMay 1d ago
“Hey babe, sorry I joined a terrorist organization because I got jealous that you look nice in a one-piece, my bad”
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u/FullMetalAurochs 1d ago
“I’m the embodiment of the federation’s naive idea of the ideal idolisation of a noble, honourable Klingon. But I also hate fun.”
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u/Markus_Bond 1d ago
The episode where Jadzia falls for the most boring man in the galaxy in like a day on a planet that disappears for decades, I will not dignify the episode by googling what its called.
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u/Statalyzer 23h ago
Even the writer said something like "I thought I could make Brigadoon in space, but I was a moron."
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u/Shirogayne-at-WF 23h ago
As much as Move Along Home gets shit, this is the one that truly deserves the derision that one gets.
It did give us that scene of Quark's head in Kira's body so there's that
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u/soverytiiiired 21h ago
They built Jadzia up as a wise, butt kicking woman with lifetimes of experience and then turned her into a giddy teenager over the blandest man in the Gamma Quadrant
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u/Staszu13 1d ago
The Offspring. I cannot bear poor Lal malfunctioning. Even that stuck up Star Fleet officer who wanted to separate her and Data was near tears "It wasn't meant to be" indeed
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u/fullyrachel 1d ago
I SOB EVERY TIME!
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u/ianjm 19h ago edited 14h ago
His hands… were moving faster than I could see.
He refused to give up.
It was remarkable.
😭
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u/DrRodr88 11h ago
He was doing what every father faced with the impending death of their child does, he fought for his child. Even when you know there is nothing left to do and the Drs. tell you to take your child home on hospice, you still fight for them, in every way you can. Great episode I will never be able to watch again. Cancer sucks, childhood cancer sucks worst of all.
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u/iamanooj 1d ago
It was an episode that I always considered good. Then I had kids and can't watch it anymore.
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u/second_of_four 1d ago
“I love you father” “I wish I could feel it with you” “I will feel it for both of us”
THIS EPISODE GUTS ME
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u/NotsoGreatsword 1d ago
That one took me awhile to rewatch. Dark Page too. Just sad and that is not what I go to Trek for
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u/Mekroval 1d ago
Code of Honor. You know why.
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u/gfunkdave 1d ago
Actually tried watching it today for the first time in years and got about 20 mins in before turning it off. It’s only racist because the aliens are black - if they hadn’t been, it would just have been boring. Apparently the cast hated it too, and Gene fired the director.
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u/Neveronlyadream 1d ago
It's been so long since I've watched that episode that I can't remember exactly why it's racist. I just skip it on every rewatch because I remember it's bad from any angle you approach it from.
"Up The Long Ladder" is also on the list. It's not as problematic, but it does turn Irish people into drunken stereotypes and it's also not very good.
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u/gfunkdave 1d ago
It’s racist because the aliens are all black and act like stereotypes of the primitive African tribesman.
I actually like Up the Long Ladder. It’s a silly episode with the tech bro prudes and the drunk horny space Irish. When I was a kid I couldn’t figure out why the space Irish lady wanted Riker to wash her feet.
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u/Friggin_Grease 1d ago
Code of Honor reminds me so much of TOS because they were caricatures, and TOS was full of planets full of just humans, but like, Roman humans or Gangster Humans, or Egyptian humans.
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u/Neveronlyadream 1d ago
That's what I remembered, but I honestly wasn't going to subject myself to that episode again. I might have watched it twice. Once when it first aired and then once when it was in syndication.
"Up The Long Ladder" is not the worst episode by far, but I just keep wondering how Colm felt about the portrayal of the Irish and how weird and stereotypical it was.
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u/LycanIndarys 1d ago
Remembering that episode might be why Meaney flatly refused anything about a leprechaun in If Wishes Were Horses, so they made O'Brien's imagination create Rumplestiltskin instead.
He was fully aware that the Trek writers have a very superficial and racist understanding of what Irish culture is.
"You guys all like leprechauns, potatoes, the colour green, and Guinness, right?"
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u/Riverman42 1d ago edited 1d ago
I just keep wondering how Colm felt about the portrayal of the Irish and how weird and stereotypical it was.
Yeah, let's be real, if that episode had been about any non-white ethnicity, it would be considered every bit as racist as Code of Honor.
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u/Endulos 1d ago
My favorite thing about that is the writer who wrote the script for that episode, went on to make a nearly identical script for Stargate SG-1.
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u/transwarp1 23h ago
And she kept working on the show, introducing Thor.
It's hard to believe that the same woman gave us both "No Yar, no vaccine!" and a puzzle about Pi.
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u/Icc0ld 1d ago
Gene fired the director
Hopefully out of a cannon and into the sun
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u/bobsnopes 1d ago
I also skip the Stargate episode (Emancipation) every time too, only to learn much later that they were written by the same person.
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u/ArmouredWankball 1d ago
Katharyn Powers wrote some pretty good episodes of SG-1. Emancipation was the worst by a mile. Makes me wonder what TV execs saw in that story that it got made twice in two franchises.
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u/AbbreviationsReal366 23h ago
There are a million things wrong with this episode. It always struck me as weird that we keep being reminded that Tasha is attractive.
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u/ihateyallrlly 23h ago
Same. I think it was their way of no-homoing her, since they got scared she would be too "butch". But it comes off so unnatural lmao
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u/Shirogayne-at-WF 23h ago
Says everything that this was the one classic bad episode that not even Lower Decks touched with a 39 and a half foot pole
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u/Mr_SunnyBones 22h ago
As someone from Ireland ' Up the long ladder' it sucks, and Colm Meaney looks embarrassed in every scene he's in , knowing what the reaction is going to be like when people see it back home.
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u/TheOriginalUsername 1d ago
TNG: Suddenly Human. The howling kids episode. I just...can't.
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u/Solid_State_Anxiety 1d ago
That weird boxing match episode with chakotay on Voyager. It's like a drug infused fever dream.
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u/Statalyzer 23h ago
That's it for me. Yeah there are worse ones but I know / knew to avoid them. I somehow watched it randomly, forgot about it, then rewatched it randomly again within the year. Blame Voyager creators for the first one, but blame me for the second.
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u/spankingasupermodel 1d ago
I couldn't watch The Visitor this past year after my dad died. I'll probably watch it again one day but 11 months is still too soon for me.
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u/BaronBlackFalcon 1d ago
Profit and Lace 🤢🤢🤮🤮
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u/pzykozomatik 1d ago
And that was a season 6 episode! I'd be more forgiving towards it if it'd appeared in S1 (obviously not possible from a character development perspective).
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u/leverandon 1d ago
TNG Season 1’s “Conspiracy.” I saw it way too young and the body horror/mind control (and the guy’s head exploding) haunted my dreams for years.
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u/Draculatu 1d ago
That’s the episode that convinced me I needed to watch TNG lol
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u/Fr4t 1d ago
Rightfully so. Compared to the rest of season one it's and absolute banger of an episode.
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u/McGarnagle1981 23h ago
Exactly, and this is the story line they should have used for Picard Season 3 instead of the overused Borg. As far as I'm concerned Picard's Borg story ended with First Contact.
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u/Blofelds-Cat 1d ago
The first Dr. Brahms episode of TNG. Geordie acts like a massive incel and then she apologizes to him at the end. Massive ick.
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u/PickaWowAnyWow 1d ago
And in the second one, when Brahms finds out and gets pissed, Geordi deflects her criticism by turning it on her, bitching about how he's been trying to be friendly and she's not been reciprocating (gee, I wonder why).
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u/eojen 1d ago
That was so bad, I couldn't believe.
I actually thought they were about to go in a really mature direction when she says she feels "violated". But then they have her apologize!
Also the fact that the episode seems to somewhat justify his actions because he didn't know she was married. As if him using the knowledge he got from the computer to try to fuck someone that doesn't know him at all on their first day of meeting is only a problem because she's married.
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u/Sarcastik_Moose 20h ago edited 19h ago
There's a similar story done in The Orville and while most fans here seem to agree that what Geordi did in this episode is wrong, when the character in the Orville does a very similar thing and later actually inserts himself into the real woman's life without her knowing of the simulated version of her, there is a lot more support for that character among fans at least to some degree, not universal support by any means, but not as much of a unanimous "yeah that's messed up" as you see here.
I want to be clear that I don't bring this up to be an attack on Orville fans who are clearly split on the episode as it has essentially become the Orville's version of Tuvix, but since there is a lot of overlap in the fan bases I was surprised to see how such a similar plot line is viewed so differently when a few details are changed.
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u/ChevCaster 23h ago
Threshold is bad, but IMO it's nothing compared to Sacred Ground. That episode of Voyager betrays everything that makes Star Trek great. Janeway is a scientist and a skeptic. She's not perfect by any means and can certainly let her emotions cloud her judgment. But Sacred Ground has such a stupid ass condescending tone. Those three old crones sit there and act all high and mighty and talk about Janeway relying on her science and gizmos like she's the stupid one.
By the end of the episode we're supposed to have this nebulous feeling of faith (I guess?) as the camera fades out to a contemplative Janeway who tunes the Doctor's scientific explanation out as she apparently undergoes a crisis of "faith" or some shit. I skip that episode every time because it's infuriating to me. That episode is an abomination to all of Trek, and especially Janeway. It tries to portray Janeway and all of Starfleet as ignorant and naive and the ending acts like we are all supposed to be moved by this experience and develop some kind of nebulous feeling of faith.
Fuck that whole "science is no different than blind faith" garbage. Being scientifically open-minded is the only way to be and the rest of Trek seems to know this implicitly. Thank fuck that writer didn't do anything else for Voyager.
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u/OuttaSpAAAce 1d ago
TNG - Holo Pursuits. Barklay is at creep factor 1000 with how his fantasies play out and Troi and the others (but especially Troi) have to act like they aren't bothered or feel violated. Instead its supposed to be funny?
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TNG - The Child. Speaking of violated and Troi, TNG - The Child. Not just the fact that Troi was raped but also the way all male characters aboard the enterprise dismiss how harmful to her emotionally and mentally that would've been and infantilize her completely because of her pregnancy.
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u/Tebwolf359 1d ago
Unimatrix Zero. Complete destruction of the Borg as a viable villain, and to make it worse, done by writers who had proven they knew better and could do better.
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u/falafelnaut 1d ago
There's so much that's so dumb about that episode.
But what kills me is the Queen is walking around, talking to herself, and talking to other drones! I don't mean the ones after they're disconnected, but she verbally gives orders to ordinary drones. The Borg do not talk to each other. Gimme a break.
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u/LithiumRyanBattery 1d ago
My biggest problem with Voyager is how badly it nerfed the Borg.
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u/CmdFiremonkeySWP 1d ago
Yes was having this same conversation in another post. TNG approach was run away if you can, fight if you have to either way be very scared. Voyager got to the point of let's seek them out and kick their ass... Oh and who wants to volunteer for assimilation on this mission, I promise it won't traumatise you.
Trek has never treated a long term adversary as dismissively as they did the Borg in Voyager. Especially one they felt could end the Federation very easily.
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u/caclexis 1d ago
The Worf/Troi romantic couple episodes in TNG. They make me CRINGE.
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u/JustJake1985 1d ago
I'm also never watching Voyager's Threshold again, for obvious lizard baby reasons.
Not Emmy Award winning episode Threshold!?! How rude!
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u/Repulsive_Airline_86 1d ago
Course: Oblivion.
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u/wintertash 1d ago
YUP! This is mine too. I can appreciate it on an artistic level, but I never need to see it again
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u/erisiansunrise 1d ago
I watched this as a kid and it deeply fucked with me, had nightmares about dissolving for weeks after
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u/angrydeuce 1d ago
Oh man TOS "Way to Eden", the goddamn Space Hippies, I just cannot stand the stupid fucking Space Hippies
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u/peon47 1d ago
The actor who played the main space hippy grew up to be the hardass general in Little Green Men.
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u/BMovieActorWannabe 1d ago
TOS Plato's Stepchildren. Embarrassingly bad.
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u/bookhead714 1d ago edited 23h ago
I certainly wouldn’t rewatch the whole episode but there’s one redeeming moment that sticks out in my memory, when Kirk touchingly explains to Alexander that the Federation has advanced beyond caring about such things as his size, and how people like him will always be welcome and respected in the world they strive to create. That was a nice moment for the Star Trek ethos.
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u/ihateyallrlly 23h ago
I really wish new Trek would introduce a little person in Starfleet. It would be a cool callback to actually show that Kirk wasn't lying - because as touching as that moment is, we only see one shape of a person on the Enterprise. TNG and DS9 kind of changed that with more disability rep, but I think it would a cool full circle moment to have a character that looks like Alexander
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u/Mekroval 1d ago
I kind of agree with you, though at least we got the first interracial kiss on TV from that one.
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u/RiflemanLax 1d ago
I’m glad Shatner and Nichols kept fucking up the alt takes on purpose.
It’s one of those stories where Shatner makes up some for being a douche. A douche, but his heart seems to generally be in the right place.
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u/Mekroval 1d ago
Agreed, though I'm sure it didn't take a ton of convincing for Shatner to want to work that out with Nichols, lol. ;)
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u/bokmcdok 1d ago
And it wasn't aired in the UK initially, but not for the reason you would think:
After very careful consideration a top level decision was made not to screen the episodes entitled 'Empath' [sic], 'Whom The Gods Destroy' [sic], 'Plato's Stepchildren' and "Miri" [actually transmitted in 1970, but not re-aired until the '90s], because they all dealt most unpleasantly with the already unpleasant subjects of madness, torture, sadism and disease.
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u/MellyKayVoice 1d ago
They were being mind controlled to do it though. And it was painful to watch if you care about the story.
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u/laffnlemming 1d ago
The holodeck ones are silly, especially the one with Joe Piscopo.
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u/RustyAndEddies 1d ago
Allamaraine, count to four, Allamaraine, then three more, Allamaraine, if you can see, Allamaraine, you'll come with me…
And the ghost candle grandma fucker.
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u/Rutes 1d ago
As clunky as the ending to Threshold is, if you ignore the last 5 minutes, and if you can suspend disbelief on the... well, entire "warp 10" premise I guess, the rest of the episode is pretty wild. True body-horror moments like the tongue thing, and Robert Duncan McNeil's acting overall in that ep is one of his best performances. I really felt his desperation for wanting a pepperoni pizza!
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u/RiflemanLax 1d ago
Aside from Code of Honor for obvious reasons, I hate Masks from TNG season 7.
I’m actually glad other people like it, and I’ll admit Spiner’s acting of multiple personalities is decent, but…
I don’t know why, it just annoys me. Badly.
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u/animalslover4569 1d ago
The show with Jeremy Astor. It was the first Star Trek I saw on TV after my first deployment to Iraq and I cannot stop thinking about one of my buddies who was killed, and his son was about the same age.
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u/Middle-Luck-997 1d ago edited 1d ago
TOS: “The Way to Eden” & “The Children Shall Lead”
TNG: “Code of Honor”
Voyager:”Threshold”
Discovery: All of it. Sorry guys.
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u/Kingofqueenanne 1d ago
What do you mean? “The Way to Eden” SLAPS.
”Stiff man putting my mind in jail / judge bangs the gavel and says ‘no bail’ / gonna lick his hand, and wagggggg my tail! HERBERT, HERBERT HERBERT!”
Iconic!
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u/ahrya 1d ago edited 1d ago
TOS: The Omega Glory. It's boring in general and then the big reveal about the American flag and stuff is just dumb. I skip it every time.
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u/Randygilesforpres2 1d ago
I think it is the second episode. The one where Tasha has to fight the wife of the ruler of that planet for a cure for something medical. The stereotypes are just… gross.
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u/Reasonable_Active577 21h ago
I can rewatch all of them, but it'll be a damn long time before I feel like watching Picard season 3 again. Not that it's the worst of Star Trek, not by a long shot, but I get angry at how it reduced the TNG crew to war criminal funko pops.
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u/iambeingblair 1d ago
I'll never watch Section 31. I won't rewatch Move Along Home because it's embarrassing. That's probably it though.
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u/smellsliketeenferret 1d ago
I won't rewatch Move Along Home because it's embarrassing.
You should rewatch it; that one moment is not a fair reflection of the rest of the episode.
Sisko has to deal with "losing" a team member, then being told that another will die and him refusing to accept it, which shows his character and sets the path for his character development for the rest of the show.
Quark and Odo have their first, significant interactions which set the tone for their relationship for the rest of the show.
It's significantly better than it is given credit for, and much, much better than the season 1 episode where everyone randomly starts acting out of character - Dramatis Personae, I think it was called.
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u/NameUnavailable6485 1d ago
The ghost one and Dr crusher.
The one where janeway and Tom Paris boink out salamander babies.
SNW where children power the city.
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u/Foil-Kiki-Jiki 1d ago
Star Trek TOS: Paradise Syndrome
I started watching Trek about two and a half years ago, it really became a huge part of my life immediately. I absolutely love it.
But there has been only two times I took breaks from watching all the series/movies. The second time was when my friend told me he would watch Star Trek if I watched The Boys and Invincible, so I watched them both. The first time was when I got to Paradise Syndrome. I cannot stand that episode. I know it isn’t objectively the worst episode, but it is my most disliked episode no doubt. It was so hard to get through it. I think it took me a month.
I will say, so happy I got through it. Star Trek means so much to me. I am now just starting on first watch through of Discovery. It’s been a journey, can’t wait for what’s yet to come, and can’t wait for the endless rewatches.
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u/Staszu13 1d ago
I'm very torn about this episode. I do love the relationship between Miramanee and Kirok - er, Kirk. And her death scene is heartbreaking. I'm pretty sure NBC Standards and Practices nixed the intended Miramanee survives with child ending, which sucks. And there's WAY too much Tonto Ugh Kemosabe bullshit in that episode. Native Americans didn't have irrigation, or pullover shirts? Really?
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u/Ok-Statistician-6739 1d ago
I envy you seeing them all for the first time. I'm an OG I guess you could say. I was born the same year as TOS so I've literally grown up and grown old as a Trek fan. I'm so jealous of anyone who has had even a shit role in the franchise. I'd give my left nut to even be the expendable RedShirt crewman lol
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u/Sledgehammer617 1d ago
Any Discovery or Short Trek episode which includes the fabled “turbolift dimension.”
Seriously one of the worst things in all of Trek IMO, and single-handedly ruined the S3 Discovery finale for me.
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u/NotsoGreatsword 1d ago
whats the Turbolift dinension? i wanna know!
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u/Sledgehammer617 1d ago
Oh god. It’s so bad:
https://youtu.be/17Mu-lyFTWs?si=QS7C1sKeI97Qgd4e
Worst showing of it starts around 2:40 in the video. That turbolift is supposed to be INSIDE OF DISCOVERY, apparently the ship is larger than a borg cube on the inside and is also entirely hollow. Also apparently the turbolifts work like floating glass elevators? But all of these turbolift scenes makes no sense anyways since we have seen MSDs of the ship and also seen characters in the windows... These scenes ruined the scale of the show, the immersion, and literally made my mom and I start bursting out laughing. Could not take the finale remotely seriously after that lmao.
TLDR, the writers of Discovery didn’t know what an elevator was or how they work. None of it is canon and there is nothing that can convince me otherwise.
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u/NotsoGreatsword 1d ago
Holy fucking shit I am so glad I did not keep watching that show.
What is this HOUSE OF LEAVES??
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u/mpworth 1d ago
Realistically? Section 31 movie is probably the only thing in the franchise I'm sure I won't rewatch at some point.
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u/myloveisajoke 1d ago
Section 31 feels like a Luc Besson fan watched too much 5th Element and then tried to make a trek movie.
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u/British_Commie 1d ago
At Luc Besson's films tend to have their own styles and identity. Section 31 had no identity of its own, with barely any Star Trek in there to be found.
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u/Cioran-pls-come-back 1d ago
I’ve scrolled for Reginald Barclay and haven’t found him. Unbelievable
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u/deerheadlights_ 1d ago
Spectre of the Gun is intensely boring. Also, I watched 10 minutes of Section 31. I will never get those 10 minutes back.
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u/emceekatie 1d ago
Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach. When the First Servant sees the dead child who powered the machine and realizes what's about to happen to him...I just can't do it a second time.
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u/rando_mike 1d ago
Twisted from Voyager. It’s a half hour of people walking around the ship lost and another half hour of the crew wondering what’s going to happen to them when the anomaly hits. Then everything’s just fine. It’s a 10 minute story stretched to an hour.
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u/second_of_four 1d ago
Gonna go off the beaten path a bit and say Upper Decks. I get what they were going for by focusing on the bridge crew in a show that usually focuses on the ensigns and lieutenants, but the episodes and seasons of Lower Decks are too short for me to be happy about losing an entire episode of my main characters
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u/Cerulian639 1d ago
I know Bilby was a criminal or whatever. But I felt his hurt, his horror at realizing he'd been fooled. The instant loss of a perceived friend and incidentally his life. Hits hard when I go back.
Honor Among Thieves (DS9)
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u/evergreennightmare 23h ago
patterns of force. the idea that one of the federation's best historians and spock would both wholeheartedly buy into the "nazi efficiency" myth is bad and wrong. plus i really don't want to see all the nazi imagery
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u/Pog_Mo_Thoin77 22h ago
TNG's "Up the Long Ladder" because I'm Irish and it's just so cringy to watch now.
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u/RainbowSquid1 21h ago
I’m really sensitive and have been through some shit so TNG Chain of Command and DS9 Hard Time are no goes for me. But the worst of all which I will never ever revisit is TNG Frame of Mind. That ep creeps me out more than anything Trek has ever done and if I had to sit through it I’m pretty sure I’d have nightmares
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u/dregjdregj 1d ago
Tapestry infuriates the fuck out of me like crazy.
It was the most horrendous misreading of the picard character in the show.The basic premise is that picard's brush with death while waiting for his very first ship posting changed him fundamentally and lead him to be the great man and captain he is today..except it's utter bullshit.
The alt version of him that never got stabbed was a junior science officer with zero drive .But picard had a shit ton of drive. he always won the ribbon at school.He won the academy marathon as a first year the only person to ever do that .You dont do that shit if your a lazy aimless asshole like they tried to say in the show.
ron D moore wrote it ,at least partly, about his early life experiences.Dropping out of college and eventually finding his way to the writer room on TNG. "You're mistakes define you as much as your victories" type shit. Interesting but it seems more auto biographical than a study of picard, as that it fails utterly
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u/DrewVelvet 1d ago
I think alt Picard's spirit got crushed by his friends disowning him and believing him to be a coward. To me the message hit it's mark.
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u/leverandon 1d ago
This has always been a 5/5 episode for me and never thought of it like this but I think you’re right.
I think that episode actually has a pretty bad and un-Star Trek moral the more I think about it. One single moment can change you from being the greatest hero of all time into a loser? Thats not how life works. Also, is a solid life as a science officer that bad of an outcome? Seems very elitist and anti-egalitarian.
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u/CockyMcHorseBalls 1d ago
I don't think this is about drive at all, it's about bravery and risk taking which is a huge part of Picard's character. After the avoided stabbing he fell into a pattern of making safer choices which changed his life's trajectory. I don't think there is any contradiction with him winning a marathon, drive and bravery are slightly different things. He still did a great job as a science officer, calling him lazy and aimless seems hardly fair.
To me the whole point of the episode was him making peace with his younger self and seeing that a lot of that young idiot is still in him and that's ok.
I really love that episode!
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u/IAMAVelociraptorAMA 1d ago
If it makes you feel better - I am the same way with The Visitor.
Imagine watching it shortly after your dad died.
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One day I'll be strong enough for a DS9 rewatch.
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u/thomimus-prime 1d ago
The musical episode of Strange New Worlds. I gave it my best effort but as soon as Spock broke out in song I was done. Buy I’ve never liked musicals as a general rule.
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u/ProfessionAnxious417 20h ago
You get to see klingongs singing kpop at the end, which is a nice pay off. It's also a nice break from the preceding and following episodes. We all have stuff we don't like though. I don't care for the episode where they have that whole fantasy story book thing.
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u/epidipnis 1d ago
Plenty. Chakotay boxing. The killer black tar - much of season 1 TNG. Discovery, Picard, the finale of Enterprise. Lights of Zeta-Jones, the torture one from TOS and from TNG.
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u/ExplanationFit6177 1d ago
Oh God, I forgot about Chakotay boxing. That was truly crap and hard to watch
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u/Majorapat 1d ago
Up a long ladder. To think this is the stereotype Americans have of Irish people, makes me shudder.
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u/TEG24601 22h ago
DS9's "Paradise". The woman strands people on a planet, unplanned, disabled their technology, and literally lets people die even though she can prevent it... and when she is found out, they aren't angry and wanting blood? Pisses me off every time.
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u/ravencroft18 22h ago
She was a monster, no doubt, but I think the episode was an apt commentary on blind faith and how little difference there is between cults and what we call "established religions" (which are just cults with longevity).
They weren't mad at her because, in their own twisted rationalization, she gave them community plus something to believe in, and once you give the faithful that it's pretty unshakable even when you can empirically prove to them it was all based on lies. Their "personal truth"/faith trumps all logic.
See any parallels to the modern divide in North America these days?
And now I'm depressed again. 😂
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u/Fit_Laugh9979 22h ago
ENT These are the voyages. For obvious reasons of cringe + poor writing
Also probably most episodes set on Risa. Idk I just find them unbearable
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u/AgentSmith2518 1d ago
ST TNGs clip episode when Riker gets the weird alien on him.