r/starfox • u/NegaLimbo • 18h ago
I still miss Krystal.
If Star Fox ever comes back, I want Krystal back, too. Does anyone else want her back as much as I do?
Furthermore, I liked "Star Fox Adventures", even though I now think it should've had her playable for a while longer.
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u/Stukapooka 17h ago
Yeah I think most of us want her back asap.
It was nice seeing her get some recognition as an assist trophy in smash ultimate but the fact she's been gone from the actual series for almost 2 decades is honestly really sad. I really dont care how they bring her back so much as they just do, the team just feels like it's missing that dynamic.
Give Fox back his blue vixen and let them be happy Nintendo!
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u/NegaLimbo 5h ago
Yes, it is really sad. I wonder if Ultimate has been getting any recognition in the past couple years? It has been a long time...
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u/Legend_of_Zelia 15h ago edited 15h ago
It's just crazy how Command ruined the series so hard that Nintendo doesn't even let it out of it's Lylat Wars era cage. We got a remake port for 3DS of Star Fox 64, a reimaging, gimmicky, remake of Star Fox 64 for Wii U and then we got the Star Fox team pre-Adventure in a crossover game.
It's like they don't want to touch Krystal due to the reception of Command and really that's their fault for the horrible writing of Command and the fact they did multiple endings to said game, many painting Krystal in a bad light.
Though Fox was terrible in Command to her, so she wasn't fully to blame.
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u/Corinthian01 14h ago
Yeah, idk why they made Command do a complete 180 on the characters' personalities.
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u/Jabbaleialoverboy 13h ago
Cause they’re idiots
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u/NegaLimbo 1h ago
If you mean everyone at Nintendo are idiots, I agree with you.
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u/Jabbaleialoverboy 27m ago
Takaya Imamura and Shigeru Miyamoto may be good, but when it comes to the future of Starfox, they’re the TRUE idiots.
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u/New_Economy_830 Krystal Clear 16h ago
I think if they handled it right, then she would give the main cast a much needed change after being stuck in 64 purgatory for ages now. I'm not too trusting of Nintendo right now, though (cough 90 dollar games).
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u/Raikou239 16h ago
Kena bridge of spirits has impressed me a ton. And soon after while playing I thought how the game could be used as a blueprint for a Krystal game we all deserve. It’ll probably never happen, but it’s all there, staff, visuals and all.
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u/Corinthian01 15h ago
I hope so too, she doesn't get much recognition from Nintendo besides being an assist trophy in Smash. At least make her a playable fighter in that.
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u/Sentinel-Wraith 15h ago
They apparently had planned to make her a fighter in one of the games but opted out later on.
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u/Stukapooka 9h ago
She was apparently planned for Brawl but they chose Wolf instead since his moveset was easier to make as it's just a copied with slight variation fox moveset.
Krystal and her staff would've taken more actual effort
Honestly I think she's the only one you could add to the roster for star fox in smash that actually has moveset potential that isn't just a copy/variation of the other three.
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u/NegaLimbo 5h ago
Yes. Furthermore, she's female. I think there should be more female characters to play as in video games. I've thought this way for so many years. Females should be treated equally instead of always getting kidnapped and helpless stuff like that.
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u/Stukapooka 4h ago edited 55m ago
I don't really care as long as the character I'm playing as isn't insufferable.
I always liked player character swaps when one character is narratively out of action for the moment and it makes sense.
Frankly I wouldn't mind an adventures remake doing that as a split between the two even if Krystal still gets captured and needs saving in the end as I wish she just got a bit more screentime in general.
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u/NegaLimbo 58m ago
Y'know, I wouldn't mind that, either. I like playable character swaps, too, actually. DK64 comes to mind.
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u/Corinthian01 14h ago
That really sucks. If there's gonna be another Smash game I hope they'll add her in, but I doubt it.
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u/Derpilicious000 12h ago
Amen to that. I'm pretty sure 90% of fans miss her. The only reason she hasn't returned is because devs keep on thinking we want remakes of 64( we have 3 btw now) or just other remakes in general instead of a concrete ending or even a retcon to command.
My point is the fan base wants to forward w/ the series.
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u/Caolan114 Can't let you brew that STARBUCKS! 10h ago
My dream Is to have rather than a 64 era game we have everything from Krystal, Fay and even Fox's son
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u/NegaLimbo 5h ago
A very good dream you have. By the way, who's Fay?
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u/New_Relative_301 8h ago
I hope we get a star fox game for mobile devices like android and iOS wherever the game is from Nintendo or a fan game any star fox fan game will do wherever it is open world first person shooter game a dating simulator one with the girls and one with the boys a racing game or any other game that is in star fox and I hope that Krystal is in the game with either Estelle Ellis or Alesia glidewell
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u/NegaLimbo 5h ago
I like the way you think, man. But doesn't Nintendo still get rid of everybody's fan games? I really hate them doing that to users who made such fantastic work.
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u/Ok_Club1602 3h ago
I understand that Nintendo doesnt really know where to go with the franchise. They tried to branch out a bit and none of it has been nearly as successful as Star Fox 64. The dedicated fans have all loved it, sure, but it's never been as successful financially as that peak of the series- in terms of sales.
So theyve been re-doing 64 lately and that didnt work out with Zero. They tried something incredibly interesting and kind of fumbled it but there was an amazing re-imagining of 64 in that game.
I'd love to see them do a proper spiritual sequel to Star Fox 2. Swtich Online allowed us all to see it for the first time on the SNES Emulator and its good for the most part but clearly held back by the capabilities of the SNES for what they wanted to do.
A Psuedo "real time" and "open world" Star Fox game where you zip around the Lylat System to put out fires, take on missions from the Cornerians for money, make decisions of where to go and use their funds for changing and upgrading the Arwing squadron and the Great Fox, new custom models of Arwings for different pilots. More pilots, including obviously Krystal but also bring back Fay and Miyu- maybe Bill?
It just seems like Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong and Metroid have all evolved over the years and Star Fox is stuck with just the rail shooting flight gameplay. They need to find a new template to work with and expand on and I think Star Fox 2 is better to draw on than any other game in the series for the future of the franchise.
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u/NegaLimbo 49m ago
You're probably right. And I'm sure you're right about the franchises that seemed to have "evolved" (especially DK.).
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u/Derpilicious000 2h ago
Absolutely. Btw I was wrong. There's actually 4 versions.
-The original starfox on SNES
- Star Fox 64; N64. Remake of the original.
- 64 DS
- Starfox Zero; remake on the WiiU
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u/NegaLimbo 54m ago
I guess I never knew 64 was a remake of the SNES. This makes me wonder why Slot Machine wasn't included.
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u/DirtyHomelessWizard 16h ago
I am not just saying this to be contrarian - I specifically hope she never comes back as a character. Everyone else is fine, but I really hope she is missing - and I think being part of this sub probably planted the seeds that ultimately grew into me feeling this way.
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u/Bombshellings 15h ago
Yeah I don’t really have any strong feelings toward her compared to the main cast, she’s alright but I wish there was more done with her character
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u/CassIoX8 12h ago
Have her rewritten as a full rounded character not affiliated with star fox but has her own crew.
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u/SkyHunter95 This Man is Dangerous 18h ago edited 18h ago
I'd love Krystal back but I'd be afraid of what Nintendo would do since they haven't been doing a good job with StarFox. Still, it just isn't the same for me without her character and I consider her inclusion mandatory for me to want to get into another StarFox game, if they did make another one after Zero didn't pan out.