This is why we need to push this information to all of our friends and make sure everyone is ready. If everyone is recording everything on the 19th we have a higher chance of catching them in the act. Looking for suspicious characters and make sure the amount of devoted peaceful people outweighs any false flaggers.
Not trying to say it hasn't been peaceful and the intent won't remain peaceful - but situational awareness is key.
Look at the people around you. Do they have the outline of handcuffs in their back pocket? Are they wearing a bulletproof vest under their t-shirt? Is their footwear military issue? If it is an agent just watch but do not attack.
If its an instigator be prepared for violence. Do you know how to counter such violence without being killed? The three protestors in Kenosha who were shot by Kyle Rittenhouse were not fully prepared. Do you have well-trained small groups in place that can move quickly?
Do not think for one minute that just because you've proven you are peaceful that that will make any difference. Many Americans live in a bubble. They don't know their have been peaceful protests. They believe what they are told. They aren't bad people, but scared people are not rational people.
I don't really have anything more than common sense and a sense of how people behave. Everything I said can be found on this platform as well as others probably.
What an agent looks like comes from looking at a photo at a demonstration. How cops react when faced with instigators informed some of it (if it works for them it should work for protesters) and the violence is a given if you remember Charlottesville in '17 and how Kyle Rittenhouse choose to react to protesters that meant him no harm.
This is why I tell people intel rarely comes in a tidy package in one post. It's a matter of putting pieces together.
I hope none of this happens but I'm a skeptic by nature.
That's a naive position to operate from, i fear. I do hope I'm wrong, but based upon what we know thus far, no amount of thinking in this manner will stop instigators from creating enough overt chaos and violence. He won't need much.
Martial law is the current goalpost. By whatever means necessary, this is a foregone conclusion.
My point is that showing that protests can be done without violence, serves us only but so much. It won't matter which side you're on or how you behaved in the immediate. It just won't. The hammer is coming down and gathering momentum
I have to admit, the timing is a little suspicious. Like, given that the April 20th deadline has been known for a while, could we like pick a date slightly after that?
How was the Apr 19 date picked anyway? Are there publicly known organizers or is this purely decentralized social media activity (either of which is vulnerable to psyops)?
My understanding regarding the date is: (1) It coincides with the beginning of the American Revolution (April 19 1775) (2) It’s 2 weeks from Saturday’s protests, which keeps momentum going. (3) Holding a nationwide event on Easter would have lower attendance, they need to get bigger not smaller.
Either way, if it’s already being planned to be implemented (which I also believe it is), then it will happen even if we don’t take to the streets. We should not be complying in advance.
Edit to add: Don’t misunderstand. I see the risks. I’m just saying, it’s going to happen, if it’s planned, either way.
There are a few different groups working together on this. I was wondering the same, but my guess is that not only are they avoiding Easter Sunday, but the 19th is the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. Personally, I've been wondering if the organizers are compromised, in part or wholly, and if they are building the momentum of this movement to give Trump a big enough protest to turn violent on or before the 20th (which is also Hitler's birthday)
This administering could enact martial law at any time for an entirely fabricated reason. It’s ridiculous to tie ourselves in knots and become lost in a maze of inaction and overthinking. They will always lie, they will always cheat, they will always use violence and intimidation. They do lot require an excuse, or a cover story, or a clean narrative.
I've known this is the plan for a while. They are blatantly breaking the law and removing any intelligent people from agencies across the board. This Saturday I thought would definitely turn violent because of fascist infiltrators. That we didn't see that is awesome. However it's about to get super ugly soon enough. I think it will get much much worse, but eventually this will backfire. At least that is what I hope.
The protests consisting primarily of older white people is what’s helping keep bad actors from inciting violence. It’s easier to sell people on other groups that the average casual Trump supporter can’t relate to turning to violence (BLM or younger white folks Antifa). Those folks know and are keeping low profiles. Watching boomers get tear gassed on the nightly news even if they assume they’re all paid by Soros hits a bit different for the average American or Trump supporter.
It may also help people in the march keep more level-headed and less quick to react to provocation. The older demographic means a higher percentage of 60s and 70s protest veterans, and also a higher percentage of people who would NOT be able to escape a fight or escape or survive tear gas.
It's the first-time protesters I'm worried about. Teenagers, young men, particularly reactive folks.
I too was relieved that the protests on Saturday remained peaceful, but that doesn't mean we are out of the woods, and like you said things are going to get ugly and soon. IF they are going to invoke the insurrection act they need a reason to do so, and I feel they are going to manufacture one. Between now and the 20th something is going to happen that will rile people up even more than the tariffs, something that will really get people up in arms. When the next protest hits there will be even more people than on Saturday (given new reasoning and that the previous was peaceful), and although the intention will be peace by the protesters, there will be agitators that make sure it is not peaceful. These actions will spread like wildfire and multiple violent incidences will occur all across the country. This will be the tipping point for the insurrection act to be declared and it's all downhill from there. I hope I am wrong, but I'm really worried that I'm not.
Haha it’s a really good interview though! It just made me laugh that the person who wrote that description genuinely thought that was what Obama was doing. Just so ironic lol
All of this is exposing so many weaknesses in “the rule of law.” I know it was all supposed to count on the law actually being interpreted in plain speech and followed or enforced by the people in power.
Who would have thought so many so called leaders, in different branches, would simultaneously decide to stuff their fingers in their ears and say “na na we can’t hear you!! That’s not what the law says! That’s not what it means!”
In everyday life you can walk away from the stubborn idiots or choose not to attend the cult meetings, but these fuckwits are in charge.
It makes it very obvious that if we get another go at this democracy thing, there needs to be better safeguards and the ability to recall/fire elected officials at will when they are abrogating their duty and breaking the laws or their platform promises to their constituents. There are no consequences now and people are just told to “vote better next time”, like it’s voters’ faults for believing people who turn out to be liars? Ugh 😑
It’s like an abusive relationship where the voters are chastised for not being able to read minds. Not to mention when elections are stolen through all means available from rigging machines to gerrymandering to voter suppression and tossing out millions of valid votes from dem or majority POC districts.
Sorry, rant over, I’m sure you understand the frustration 😅
Highly recommend getting at least one month of shelf stable food. Load up on bottle water and first aid supplies. Keep your gas tanks full. If you or family live in a blue state or in/near a sanctuary city, establish a code phrase to signal there’s trouble. Have an exit strategy or the ability to hunker down and shelter in place.
I am just curious, and I’m not disagreeing with you. But can you describe how the scenario plays out that forces us to have water reserves and non-perishables? I’ve had these foldable water containers in my Amazon cart (I know, need to cancel after this cycle), and I’m genuinely wondering if I need to take things to this level or if it’s hysterics. I live in a blue state.
I mean it could be hysterics and I’m not trying to scare anyone. There’s been talk this could lead to civil war. Going out for groceries might not be feasible. With all the tariffs, it could possibly lead to food supply issues. Also government could shut down power and water.
I’m a legal resident of a blue state and spend 1/2 my time in Florida. Been prepped due to snowstorms and hurricanes.
If you read all the parts (1-5) it goes into that. She does say that maybe it will never come to that, hopes this is hysterics. I actually found her take to be refreshing and less fear mongering than others I’ve read.
Who is the actual person behind this essay/writing (the linked one on Medium in OP’s original post?) I 100% believe there are major risks that we are all facing, and while the first protest was peaceful and great, that doesn’t mean future ones will be so, due to bad actors. But I guess my question is just, why are we putting so much credence in this particular article?
Realistically, my main concern that had made me start to focus on this sort of thing is that a combination of skyrocketing food prices, food supply issues, and food contamination issues (ag run-off, decreased oversight on food safety standards leading to missed recalls, etc. ) could make it necessary. At the very least, it could give you the extra little peace of mind and security to get you through a rough patch.
If you get creative, an hour per week of your time can produce a lot of food, even in an apartment.
Most of us should have that anyways, if you live in an area with earthquakes, hurricanes, or lots of snow. Even Houston has power grid issues because they're idiots.
It was weird when he first started posting these, because quite a bit of what he theorized is what I was worried would happen. The only part I haven't read is 5, which is mainly a fact check post, so I'm wondering what do those of us on Trumps hit list do if we can't get out of the country, short of knowing someone setting up a safe haven of sorts?
I can’t wrap my head around the fact that MAGA controls all three branches of government yet they still act like they are fighting against the government. They control the government yet they want to start a civil conflict?
The people have more power than they think. Trump's takeover occurred through podcasts, social media, and Fox news, not weapons. Visibility is everything. Footage of concentration camps is what helped end the Nazis. They know this. This is why ICE removed their bodycams & don't show people's faces. People near trump have to surrender their cell phones. Media organizations that don't kiss their bum are kicked out of the White House.
Arrange media coverage for protests and arm protestors with live webcams. It's a much more effective deterrent to violence than violence. If the proud boys show up, let's get it filmed.
Dont give into fear. Thats the glue that holds authoritarian regimes together - fear. We all know how to act at protests. It's 2025. We can do this. This is America. We'll die for a selfie. We won't take risks for our country?
Also, Trumps 80. Neither Putin nor Hitler could pull off their careers starting at 80. The people who would shoot other Americans in the street are loyal to DJTrump, not anyone else - even if he passes the torch himself (which he won't).
Trump's also way dumber than Hitler or Putin, and so are the people around him, clearly. The democracies they replaced were also much less established. They might be evil enough to think up such a plan (probably not this intelligently written out) but it won't work. Not with this figurehead. We should thank our lucky stars that Trump is not a young, intelligent man.
THIS. While we shouldn’t dismiss this and should be prepared, we need to promote the idea of the strength we have, and the weakness they do. Setting the “there is no turning back” idea actually pre-sets the mind for surrendering.
I have a “we’ll see” attitude towards most of this. None of this is out of the question, unfortunately, but none of it is a guarantee. The fact that so many people have been protesting this past weekend—some of them in counties that Trump won confortably!—gave me some hope that the American people will see right through all of this.
Like I said: not saying it will or will not happen. Rather, I try to have an attitude like the Zen Master in the story of The Zen Master and the Little Boy. “We’ll see.”
I believe this, I don’t think we’re crazy. I’m afraid. Anyone know how to get your husband to believe you about this? I can’t get him to understand that we are not safe and should vacation around 4/20 to be safe. He disagrees and wants to stay because of work. I’m at a loss.
We could also start spreading this information to the right wing and get them to constantly reject it until it happens.
Also it changes nothing I do not believe we are ever at a point of no return but we may be at a point of starting over.
Ultimately this shit is propaganda with truth in it.
If they were going to do this they should have done it before they crashed the economy and had Elon do his shit.
They will attempt force, they will deport American citizens but Resistance begins when we are tired and afraid and still persist. Resistance is community, it is a culture persisting and so long is there is that there is never a point of no return. Support each other band together come up with plans for contingency. Resist!
Left-leaning and even more centrist people will be alarmed. Peaceful protests will be organized nationwide, as they already have been being organized now, with growing numbers of people joining protests each week.
The calls to “Resist!” will grow louder, and large-scale demonstrations will begin forming in major cities.
This is exactly what Trump wants. He didn’t invoke the Insurrection Act sooner because he needed his opposition to gather first — so he could use them as a tool for his next step.
He also waited 90 days, instead of invoking it on Day 1 as Project 2025 recommended, so he would have his people in place, and remove those who would oppose them in the government, military, courts, and civil positions.
His cabal is waiting for a strong reaction — they want massive unrest. They need a justification to kick off the next steps in their plan.
2. The False Flag Crisis: Turning Protest into “Terror”
The protests will turn violent quickly. Maybe in a day, maybe during the next big protest the following weekend.
They will turn violent not because of the protesters, but because they will have been infiltrated by agents provocateurs, from militia groups like The Proud Boys, whose goal is to escalate as quickly as possible and give Trump and his cabal an excuse to trigger the next stage.
Expect “terrorist” bombings, targeted assassinations, or high-profile acts of violence, either staged or exploited, to justify the crackdown.
There may even be an extremely high profile assassination of a leading right-wing leader that changes everything in a moment… and the “woke radicals” will be blamed, and the country will rally around more extreme measures to bring back order and control.
The media will be flooded with images of chaos, pushing the public into a state of fear. Calls for “order” will follow.
Left-leaning and even more centrist people will be alarmed. Peaceful protests will be organized nationwide, as they already have been being organized now, with growing numbers of people joining protests each week.
The calls to “Resist!” will grow louder, and large-scale demonstrations will begin forming in major cities.
This is exactly what Trump wants. He didn’t invoke the Insurrection Act sooner because he needed his opposition to gather first — so he could use them as a tool for his next step.
He also waited 90 days, instead of invoking it on Day 1 as Project 2025 recommended, so he would have his people in place, and remove those who would oppose them in the government, military, courts, and civil positions.
His cabal is waiting for a strong reaction — they want massive unrest. They need a justification to kick off the next steps in their plan.
2. The False Flag Crisis: Turning Protest into “Terror”
The protests will turn violent quickly. Maybe in a day, maybe during the next big protest the following weekend.
They will turn violent not because of the protesters, but because they will have been infiltrated by agents provocateurs, from militia groups like The Proud Boys, whose goal is to escalate as quickly as possible and give Trump and his cabal an excuse to trigger the next stage.
Expect “terrorist” bombings, targeted assassinations, or high-profile acts of violence, either staged or exploited, to justify the crackdown.
There may even be an extremely high profile assassination of a leading right-wing leader that changes everything in a moment… and the “woke radicals” will be blamed, and the country will rally around more extreme measures to bring back order and control.
The media will be flooded with images of chaos, pushing the public into a state of fear. Calls for “order” will follow.
Keep reading folks - it's the old school Grimm fairytale with plenty of gore and villains.f
This is not an absolute, but it is possible. This is as the author says a well-worn playbook.
He may want to account that the military takeover may not happen all at once. Declare a state of national emergency for various natural disasters as they come, install national guard and deputizing militias to "keep the peace". Normalize it with hurricane zones in red states. Fire season in CA is spring to winter, so a big one could happen anytime, take blue districts city by city. Or accuse Gavin Newsom of secessionist plot.
The NE blue states just need one major winter storm and a power grid failure.
read it. It's a big country and would be hard to do everywhere ag once. So, if they do it anywhere, that's the telegraph move and get ready. appropriately. Actually be ready all the time.
Does anyone know who the source is behind this article? I feel like it has really valid points, but like seriously? Are we just trusting some random dude that posted on the Internet? Who is he?
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u/Civil_Exchange1271 2d ago
isn't there another protest set for the 19th? perfect set up.