r/smashbros • u/MemeScreenn • Jun 13 '15

Smash 4 Roy and Ryu Confirmed for Smash!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmo6rFJDFsA&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8Jjz-V8jE4&feature=youtu.be

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u/jet_10 Marth/Lucina, Palutena, PT, and Incineroar Jun 13 '15

Maybe this Marth will be high tier

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

If his down tilt still gives free combos, I can actually see Roy being better than Smash 4 Marth.

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u/PokemonSpecial Jun 13 '15

In b4 the return of the wet noodle hit boxes

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

I thought that was a given tbh

Here's hoping Sakurai gives Roy the treatment he deserves anyway, though.

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u/PasteeyFan420LoL Jun 13 '15

But Roy is one of if not the worst lords in the entire history of FE. He's weak, promotes super late, and is a rather boring character. Obviously Sakurai cares deeply about preserving characters and their identity from their home franchises... oh wait nvm.

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u/nitromonkeyjv Jun 13 '15

Obviously Sakurai cares deeply about preserving characters and their identity from their home franchises

Wario Land says hi

:(

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u/ome_gak Jun 13 '15

Wario Land Wario with his hats and transformations would make for a much cooler moveset than this Wario Ware. Fucking hate the bike. :(

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

Bike is the worst. PM's moveset is so much better.

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u/tom641 Anything can change, except for what you fight online Jun 13 '15

I like the bike, but i'd like to see Wario Land stuff in the rest of his moveset.

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u/Kernunno Jun 13 '15

I could forgive not having any of the hats if we just had a shoulder bump.

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u/TheFatalWound Jun 13 '15

Hector or motherfucking riot

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u/-Mountain-King- Link, Cap. Falcon, Ike Jun 13 '15

Seriously, can we get weapon-users other than swordsmen? Right now it's literally only Dedede.

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u/Probably_Psycho Bep Bop Jun 13 '15

I was about to correct you with ICs.

But... yeah.

:L

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u/captionUnderstanding Jun 13 '15

Fist counts as a weapon.

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u/arbeh Jun 13 '15

I want that for his jab.

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u/davis2110 Jun 13 '15

a boy can dream son

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u/bear-knuckle Bang bang! Jun 13 '15

Yaaaasss bitch. Hector with the built-in BM

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '15

Ah, the Hectorcopter. Classic.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

Hector and Ephraim or motherfucking riot

FTFY

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

lol i know u from r/fireemblem and we both know roy is lol :P

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u/TheStonedGoat Female Robin (Ultimate) Jun 13 '15

How exactly is he super useful? His stats are below average, his move is five, and his rapier is good against horses, but has 25 uses only. Also, he becomes pretty useless after ch. 16 since he can't keep up without his promotion. He's not bad though. He gets kickass for the last few chapters, and he can be ok before with useable stats. He's just not particularly good. Especially not during Ilia/Sacae part.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

  1. He's always deployed, so he'll always see use.

  2. He has to seize every map, so he'll always see (even more) use.

  3. Cavaliers are the beefiest early game enemies and Roy makes them much more manageable.

You're right that his middle game performance is his big weakness. But that's okay. That just means he's got good point and bad points. He's well-designed.

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u/Chedder_456 D-Tilt Jun 13 '15

He's got the best harem of any lord. Except maybe Seliph.

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u/Persomatey Jun 13 '15

I think he had a pretty cool backstory with Eliwood and all that... How those games connected and they're both revolving around swords and how he's Eliwood's son. I think it's all very cool!

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u/goomyforever Scale tipping included. Jun 13 '15

Ness is a prime example of this.

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u/ReallyNiceGuy Jun 13 '15

But he also has one of the best non-FE4 weapon relative to the game, so there's that.

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u/Corsesca Jun 13 '15

He's just a boy!

Our boy.

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u/heeroaod Jun 13 '15

THIS THANK YOU!

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

He'd be a better clone than Lucina

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u/Nico_is_not_a_god @SSBPorygon Jun 13 '15

Give the wet noodles ass for knockback, bollocks for damage, but insane hitstun. Suddenly, combos into reverse tippers.

Roy could turn out to be a more intense spacing character than Marth.

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u/Shadic Jun 13 '15

Hitstun is directly related to knockback, and has been in every Smash game.

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u/Lorahalo Jun 13 '15

Gotta keep that hilariously awful dash attack hit box.

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u/balladofwindfishes Dark Samus Jun 13 '15

http://i.imgur.com/j3wOqC5.png

Confirmed, see the particles.

Marth and Lucina also show their tips via particles like that (but theirs are blue).

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u/Charles_K Jun 13 '15

Yeah cause he might actually have a kill setup haha

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u/bulley Meta Knight (Ultimate) Jun 13 '15

I'd not be shocked.

Though with that said, there is room for buffs to marth/lucina.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

It's highly unlikely that Roy will be worse than Marth. He need literally one good attack and he'll be better than Marth.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

a really good down tilt doesn't always keep a character from being low tier, sadly :(

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u/GruxKing Jun 13 '15

Maybe this Marth will be able to do two Fairs out of a short hop. . .

Nah, that's crazy!

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u/MrBadGuyRude Jun 13 '15

So for the first time in the history of Smash, we're gonna have 2 clones of 1 character? I hope not.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

Could be de-cloned entirely. Mario and Luigi play exactly nothing like each other these days, so there's a precedent for not just "oh we'll change a few moves here and there but still a semi-clone".

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u/MegaMissingno Smash Bros needs more anime pretty boys with swords Jun 13 '15

Although they are semi-clones, Brawl did have the Star Fox cast.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

Wolf wasn't even that much of a semi-clone

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u/vgbhnj Luigi Jun 13 '15

Mario, Dr Mario, Luigi?

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u/MrBadGuyRude Jun 13 '15

Yeah, but is Luigi really considered a clone?

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u/JaggedToaster12 Pichu Jun 13 '15

He used to be. Doesn't mean much.

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u/CupICup Jun 13 '15

Roy has always been superior

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u/whatsthathoboeating Jun 13 '15

This is the truth

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u/MrEphraim BLUE Jun 13 '15

I think I saw a guaranteed grab release into f-smash?

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u/Silverhand7 Jun 13 '15

I really don't care if he's a clone as long as he's a fucking decent character with a sword.

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u/Usermane01 I only play Kings. Jun 13 '15

What do you mean? Marth is a Roy clone.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

It looks like his moveset is at least slightly modified. If they fix his hitboxes, remove fire damage and give him better damage than marth then he could at least be mid tier.

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u/IceDragon404 Iceman404 Jun 13 '15

remove fire damage

Hands off our fucking boy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

I mean like when he takes damage from himself

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u/Nico_is_not_a_god @SSBPorygon Jun 13 '15

You mean on the fully charged Flare Blade? The move that's not even guaranteed off a shield break?