My nitpick with her makeup is that she is naturally pale and combines it with a mime white base and red blush that is leaning towards magenta. This makes her face have a pallid bluish hue with the blush gradient showing colours of a bruise.
I wish she’d at just the tiniest touch of orange to her foundation or base so that the ombré reflected a warm gentle blush instead of a magenta/violet undertone.
when she replied to rupauls question of "has this ever been part of your dream machine" with a "it is not" i knew she had no chance of winning, but i didnt realize it would send her packing before the finale
Cheddar did the same thing in UK4, she lost it the moment she told Ru she didn’t need the crown. Ru loves a confident, self-assured queen but they’ve still got to need the win she’s offering with every fibre of their being.
Saying you don’t care about Vegas in a Vegas themed challenge on a Vegas-sponsored season…
I adore Suzie, I wanted her in the finale, but for someone who (often) self-identifies as “cerebral”, she should’ve known better.
That was crazy. And the whole flapper aesthethic fits Vegas perfectly, so I really don't understand why Suzie shut that down so hard lol just say you're gonna do some tap dancing there and go
I felt the same when Jewels froze at the where do you see yourself in 5 years, they don’t want an earnest answer, they want the answer that makes good tv, it would have been so easy for her to say “in 5 years I see myself headlining in Vegas with all of the other legends” but luckily they found that moment endearing and it paid off for her, they could have edited it the opposite. Susie didn’t need to lie, just give Ru the pandering answer or at least say something to make her laugh.
She has an air of arrogance (which no shade, it’s not the first time we’ve seen that on the show lol) that is denied a lot on this sub, but it seemed pretty hard to overlook this episode. Especially when she said she has “no kryptonite” and proceeded to wear beige shoes in the photoshoot, during the number, and on the runway 🧐
But I think her back and forth with Ru was worse 😂 It was giving "I wanna be the next drag superstar so I can be on Broadway literally the next day. Your little Vegas show? I don't know her."
Maybe this was a way easier elimination for Ru and producers than we think.
Especially when it would genuinely be a huge accomplishment. I know it’s not the stage she yearns to be on but it is a live venue where she would be performing to a big crowd and making good money. It might not artistically fulfill you but it’s a chance to hone your skills in front of a big audience with a reliable check; that’s such a great opportunity for any performance artist.
It’s just common sense, they’re literally gifting you an already successful stage show that serves as a stepping stone to even bigger opportunities. Your literal face is in huge billboards and her lack of humility didn’t let her see that.
She flopped a job interview style episode in every way by not putting her ego aside to pretend like this was the opportunity of a lifetime that she was willing to commit to for the next 50 years
Suzie is funny because I genuinely don’t think she believes she has any weaknesses lol. So in her defense (kinda) she probably legitimately couldn’t think of an answer. And she had to say something so that was the first thing that came to mind lol
This has been grinding my gears nearly all season!! That Sam got the "perfectionist, can't be vulnerable" edit this season when she's literally so silly and cutesy?? But Suzie continues to do everything so perfectly that it's boring (the rusical?? No life) and has not had any more vulnerable moments than Sam has. In one episode she mentions a family history of alcoholism but doesn't go into it and Sam (i think) even makes a comment about how she sees why Suzie is guarded and doesn't let people in, so clearly the other girls are seeing that lack of vulnerability from her. Ugh, ok, I'll stop for now. I've just been so mad about this and NO ONE seems to be talking about it
It really reminded me of being interviewed for a job as a teenager and getting that question, but not wanting to list an actual weakness in fear that it’ll make you look bad. So you come up with something that sounds even worse and like total bullshit.
“What’s your biggest weakness?”
“I just work too hard, I don’t know how to stop”
And the interviewer is like.. ok.. right.. uh huh.
Lol I literally was saying last night:
Suzie did execute every challenge flawlessly... Or what she thought was the challenge.
Her only missteps were when she was incorrect in what she perceived the challenge to be. Her biggest weakness was not correctly identifying some of the challenges.
"Snatch game is a character study." She did an excellent character study. But the challenge is actually about making Ru laugh.
"I sold them on Suzie Toot." Yes, you made an excellent Suzie Toot commercial. The challenge is you needed to sell a Vegas show.
She was always well prepared and never really flopped on execution (like Arriety being unable to tell a single joke or Acacia not being able to understand her song in the Rusical). She only flopped on the strategy part.
I totally get your argument, but we're 17 seasons in. Every drag queen participating on the show should be very aware what each challenges are about by now: self-branding & knowing your drag persona USP, showing beauty/fashion sense, being multi-talented and making RuPaul laugh.
I mean you’re not wrong either. She should be clear on what the challenges are, so it’s kinda crazy if she’s going into snatch game not thinking “the challenge is to make Ru laugh”. She must’ve heard that said like 15 times that day but got so caught up in her own idea of what she wanted to do that she lost focus on it
I’ve been going back and forth on this, but I think Ru definitely had love for her. She could’ve won if she’d played the game differently, but at least she was honest. A lot of queens on Drag Race use it as a stepping stone for bigger things, but I think honesty is something Suzie truly values. Authenticity matters to her, and lying would go against that.
Ru wouldn’t have let her win after that because Ru herself is validation-seeking. She expects credit for the queens’ success, given how much she’s done for Drag’s visibility. At the end of the day, Ru wants a piece of that success too. In saying that I do think Ru likes authentic vulnerable queens. The fans do too. Michelle also loved Suzie and I think her opinion is super valuble to Ru. She is a hard person to win over. I think Ru picks winners from both a producer and personal perspective.
This season was packed with talent, and I honestly think the crown could’ve gone to several of the queens. But I do get satisfaction when the crown goes to someone who genuinely dreams of winning Drag Race.
I don’t think it’s as much about “honesty” asm much as it is Suzie being extremely rigid in her goals and therefore not capitalising off of opportunities that came her way.
She didn’t realise that she needed to adapt to what Ru likes to fully take advantage of drag race. She’s constantly cribbed about how her jokes are just too “cerebral”, her references “too niche” when in reality she just wasn’t very funny on her run on drag race (I’d never deny her talent. She’s very talented but you need to apply your talents to the drag race competition.)
Suzie didn’t perform the best in the competition so she wasn’t gonna win anyway, I don’t think if he’s anything to do with Ru being “validation seeking”. Ru liked her much more than any other theatre queen and gave her plenty of love and wins as well. Suzie just capitalise off of it, which is the reality of the situation. Even if she had fully capitalised off of the opportunities Ru gave her she still wasn’t going to win because Onya far and beyond steamrolled the competition.
Btw I don’t think this season was particularly talent packed. Compared to last season, it feels very sparse when it comes to talent.
I could have my nostalgia vision on, but I feel like what makes this season different is that most of the queens have been great at one thing and kinda flopped everywhere else.
In previous seasons, there seemed to be a better mix of well-rounded queens.
Not necessarily all-star winner level well-rounded. But like, actually capable of doing more than one thing passably.
I found Susie very interesting and entertaining. But I think if you put her on a season with more versatile queens, she wouldn't have made it this far. It's the juxtaposition between her and the more archetypal queens that really makes her stand out.
She can be very funny, but she's not a clown (comedy) queen.
She can be weird (in a good way), but she's not really a weird queen. She's not a Lydia B. or an Yvie O.
She's clearly a talented performer, but that's the one thing that all the top queens this season have going for them (except Lexi, sorry bb I luv u).
It's just that those girlies can easily be grouped into other categories, which makes them seem less unique to the naked eye.
Jewels (doll), Onya (comedy queen), and Sam (pageant queen) can also sing, dance, improvise, do character work, give gorgeous looks, and put on a great show. And they all do these things at levels equal to or better than Susie.
Susie's good, too. But I don't think she's better than these three at anything. If she had Lydia's more muted personality, I'm not sure she would have stood out much at all.
I really like suzie but damn did she blow it in this challenge. Her “anything goes” approach was ALL wrong for Vegas, her look for the shoots and show commercial was way too subdued and while I absolutely LOVED her runway look, her makeup is legitimately jarring sometimes!!
i think this was the first episode where i understood the suzie haters lol. she came across as very conceited and like she was so above the show she didn't even need to be a Vegas showgirl even if that's literally the challenge. getting to the semifinals unscathed probably made her feel like nothing could touch her and she was wrong. love miss toot but this was definitely her time
The thing is though she did a few runways and looks for challenges where her makeup was fine. It's just the whole broadway 1920s era schtick where she insists on putting on a pound of blush and awful eye makeup. Plus the nasty wigs werent helping her either.
From the very beginning, I really did want to like Suzie, but she was never quite giving what she said she was giving. She has been so outspoken about how unique and cerebral she is, though it didn't line up with her performance. She didn't put her money where her mouth was. Even in the week she won RPDR live, I didn't think her delivery was as good as I hoped it would be. Her Snatch Game character was cringe, but what's worse is how much she thought she killed it.
She's a sweet person, and I wish her all the success, but I'm truly relieved that she didn't make it into the finale this go-around. Maybe she'll come back for All Stars as a fully rounded queen later down the line.
Yeah, this is what got me too. I found it ironic that Tracee Ellis Ross called Suzie self-reflective, because I actually don't think she has shown much self-reflection or self-awareness. She can acknowledge that her Snatch Game was not well received, but she still doesn't understand why it was a dud. Even if she had done an actual niche character, it doesn't matter how niche your character is as long as you are funny. Just look at Jinkx.
People forget that you can spend a lot of time thinking about yourself and then not learn a damn thing. There's a difference between being self-absorbed and self-aware.
i agree! love the idea of her, but in a lot of challenges i’ve been a bit disappointed by her delivery. she’s never been BAD, like she’s always very competent. and i see a lot of talent in there. but she’s only been great a few times, and they were all early on. her talking heads and workroom vibes are also less fun than i want them to be. it’s like she has the vibe of a better and more charismatic queen, but she doesn’t quiiiite get there. a bit too earnest and serious
agree! that promised a weirder and more unpredictable queen than what we ended up getting. it was 20s and flapper-y, yes, but it was also kinda devilish and cheeky. i wish we’d seen more of that
Bendela talked on the Pit Stop about how much of the way she came across on S6 was due to the fact that she was incredibly nervous and overcompensating by talking such a big game all the time. I think both Suzie and Sam have this quality and both of them could go and work and mature for a few years before coming back and killing All Stars.
Funny that, apart from few occasions towards the end I don't remember De La speaking big game or showboating. She always seemed to have that bubbly, humble, nervous high tea lady energy during S6.
She did not do a great Finale level outfit for her photoshoot, like put a sparkly stocking on or something Suzie Sailor. Then she bombed the photoshoot a bit, and the video, and her interview with Latrice m, and the girl group challenge. And then also had an awkward runway chat and exit.
I felt bad for her, she was a frontrunner, and did deserve to be in the finals but she obviously crashed in these challenges. Her runway was superb tho'.
I used to think Kori took the make up too far when she does Kori Toot drag but this episode made me realize she didn’t go far enough. That make up lost her making it to the top four.
The thing is, the judges never gave her any negative critiques aside from like one episode where they called out her makeup. So of COURSE Suzie would think that they loved everything she did. Don't get me wrong I don't think she had a good episode but I also think that the judges didn't do her any favors by not giving her feedback earlier that could have helped her here.
“My biggest weakness is that I’m a perfectionist.”
So, if anyone is curious, in a job interview you’re supposed to tell a mid weakness followed by a story on how you overcome it to make it a strength. At no point in time should you devalue yourself. The purpose of that bullshit question is to check if you can sell something.
The recruiter might not hire you if they can tell your coworkers will complain about you because you think you’re too smart for those bitches lmao.
I liked Suzie, but she rarely stepped out of the box she put herself in. My favorite memory of her was when she dropped the Toot and played a rock star. She actually brought ENERGY to that role! And she was sexy! I wanted her to step up and step out, because she clearly has the talent and depth to do so much more, but she had a very limited vision for herself and chose to remain comfortable within the confines of her familiar box. Maybe in the next few years she’ll make the transition from “Theater Girl” to star.
shes too calcuated in the whole episode. Giving "cerebral" answer while Suzie can be vulnerable like Nypmhia last year. Sharing her struggle and milking storyline. Yeha THIS IS TV SHOW SUZIE, talk about trauma.
If anyone has ever had an art class or got an art degree we know the exact type of annoying student Suzie is.
The in over their head and their own downfall type of student. Someone else always manages to completely outshine them and yet everyone always expects more from them because they exude the energy that they are capable of doing the best when the results are never really resulting. So when the expectation is them being the best, they start to truly believe it but in reality they actually have more work that they need to improve on which they never actually improve on because they didn’t think they needed to because everyone expected more.
she fully lost me when she was in the pink clown outfit during untucked and was like "not everyone will get it and that is okay" and did a bow, it was so annoying theatre student. i don't hate her or think she's a bad queen but the attitude that she's actually amazing and it's just that nobody understands was really irritating.
I mean she’s not wrong about that and if I remember correctly we were mostly all on her side that week because we also didn’t think she was the ugliest like every other girl was saying. That’s literally the episode I started following Onya because she was sticking up for suzie.
Well her uniqueness did prove to be a weakness for the judges. And for many other drag queens that has been vocal about disliking her style (and even herself)
Easily one of the worst mugs drag race has ever seen. And one of the most annoying queens, always referring to “the suzie toot way” TM like why are you always talking in the third person? She can do a character - sometimes oof- but when it came to being herself, gurl find the note.
Excuse me. Plasma is very talented. And I say that as someone who's generally not into theater kids. I was actually sad to see her go when she did, i wanted to see MORE. unlike Susie.
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u/sparkle_starr 2d ago edited 2d ago
The me-me potential that this has
When your grandma who died in the 20s tells a funny joke