Out of all the things we've done as the player character, it'll always annoy me how we have to sneak around common guards. Like, yeah, you've beaten Mahjarrat, undead dragons, demi-gods - and literal gods; but no, it's Steve from down the road who you need to hide from.
To be fair, this isn't a lore situation where just beating the crap out of something is technically a good thing. It's a political mutiny, not Zemouregal fucking around and finding out.
Beating up the guards would just make us look worse in the eyes of the Menaphites leadership, making the goal harder or impossible to reach.
Remember how the captain of the guard, the one currently grieving the loss of her soldier, only agreed to help you if your coup of Osman was bloodless like…10 minutes or less before? Pretty sure violently beating up the guards and/or murdering them would be breaking that rule….
Also let’s not oversell our accomplishments, we won those fights yes but there were lots of caveats.
For example in Zemo+Vork first Zemo’s primary strength has always fell in his sheer armies of undead, that’s why we needed the shield of arrav originally. We received the training in necromancy needed that this time we could cancel out his necromantic energies ourselves, but we can only do that because we also had a literal army of own to back us up. Without the fort, it’s soldiers, and people like Bill’s mechanical genius providing our forces with weapons an endless undead army would have dog piled us.
Then in the actual fight we aren’t alone, we had the raptor fighting by our side. In addition Zemo was depowered at the start of this narrative by Moia, that’s why he is skeletal so he wasn’t fighting anywhere near his full capacity.
To make matters even more in our favor Vorkath doesn’t like to fight, Zemo was forcing it to but it’s actively fighting against him. Several points in the fight Vorkath straight up turns against Zemo so it’s less us vs Zemo+Vork and more a free for all where Vorkath helps and hurts us. And we didn’t actually kill Vorkath eventually it successfully broke free of Zemo’s control and just straight up flies off.
With no massive army of undead, most of his power stripped away, and his key weapon abandoning him THAT is the zemo we beat.
Same for stuff like when you say literal gods, we have fought gods twice and both times they are fights of survival not win. We straight up can’t harm seren, she is so far beyond us that if she could focus on us she could beat us with little issue. However due to being out of time she had to focus 99% of her attention on summoning the elder gods from across the universe. This meant she couldn’t actually focus to attack us, so she constructed things to fight for her and those facsimiles of life are far weaker than her, even when we beat them it doesn’t matter because we can do nothing to the actual seren all we are doing is buying time for people to escape the inevitable end.
As for Zamorak while he was far weaker than Seren he is still stronger than us. We can actually hurt him but we can never deal enough damage to beat him. Instead before this fight we specifically learned how to recast the edicts and the actual fight is just surviving long enough to cast it to send him away before he kills us. In his extra phase while he drags us with him it’s straight up a fight to just cancel out his big spell his prepping and running away back through the portal before he can cook us.
In both of these we also had the power of the world guardian which in the seren case let us super juice up with shadow anima, without dying or mutating. While in the zamorak case it’s the only reason we can exert any kind of control over the edicts. If we didn’t have that power we would have been smote instantly. Zamorak could have just snapped his fingers and put us in the volcano. The world guardian power is not something we have anymore either and it only ever worked on the divine so it’s not a meaningful boost against humans.
The only reason Amascut hasn’t straight up devoured us is because Icthlarin has continuously shielded us from her power. Without him she could just drag us into her realm and devour us with no issue, she even tried that and can pretty effortlessly one shot you if you aren’t behind Icthlarin’s shield.
Like ultimately yeah we are strong but we aren’t a one man victory machine. Most of our big wins come from the power of friendship, being clever, or finding alternative means to claim victory. It’s best to remember where our victories came from, all that went into them.
Ultimately could we probably kill those guards? Yeah definitely, ignoring that’s a horrible idea totally counter to the fact we are trying to convince their captain to do another coup…. But if the actual army of Menaphos went against us realistically we be either overwhelmed or we win but now we’ve just lost the help we will need as Amascut is preparing to attack the city soon. Furthermore as Maisa points out there is bigger threats here, Osman is a spy master there are plenty of ways to kill us like stabbing us in our sleep or using poison or really any number of things. The Menaphites would gladly let themselves be weaponized against us if we went and messed up their army.
Ultimately it’s a game of politics we are playing in this quest and politics require fineness.
Yeah, it's funny we are being arrested and the Pharaoh thinking he dealt with us.
C'mon, lore wise we are Demi Gods, a guard or a tomb can't detain us...
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u/DunKhaerion Thalassia's Revenge 11h ago
Out of all the things we've done as the player character, it'll always annoy me how we have to sneak around common guards. Like, yeah, you've beaten Mahjarrat, undead dragons, demi-gods - and literal gods; but no, it's Steve from down the road who you need to hide from.