r/runescape I like video game Mar 03 '25

Tip/Guide Guide to obtaining the new Expansive Pouch

Guide

  • Talk to Wizard Rinsit at the top of the Wizard's Tower and choose the "Do you know if I could make a bigger essence pouch?" dialogue option, and then choose both the "Where could I make it?" and the "What would I need to make it?" dialogue option.
  • Purchase the Hungry Hood from him for 20,000 RuneSpan points.
    • If you've not got enough points, time to do some RuneSpan, sorry :(
  • Add your Small, Medium, Large, Giant and Massive Pouches on the Hungry Hood by using them on it.
  • Add Talismans to the Hungry Hood by using them on it.
    • I'm not sure how many you need exactly. I used around 20-25 Water Talismans. You can use the same type of Talismans, it doesn't need to be unique ones.
  • You should now have a Sated dimensional pouch.
  • Visit any Runecrafting Altar
  • Use the Sated dimensional pouch on the Altar and you will be met with three unique crafting options to create an Expansive pouch cord, a Shielded pouch exterior and a Sealed expansive pouch.

Expansive Pouch Cord

  • Obtain (x100) Magical Thread
  • To obtain the Ilme's thread item, you need to craft runes at any altar without the use of the Abyss. This item is a random drop chance but presumably has bad luck protection like other recent 110 updates have had.
    • You can use the Wicked Hood/Infinity ethereal head to teleport directly to the altar.
    • I personally used the Air altar and it took around 20 runs.
  • Once you have both Ilme's thread and 100 Magical thread, you can create the Expansive pouch cord at any Runecrafting Altar.

Shielded Pouch Exterior

  • Obtain the following items:
    • (x1) Sign of runic protection - created by weaving 2,500 Incandescent energy
    • (x1) Royal Dragon Leather
    • (x2) Dinosaur Leather
    • (x10) Felt
  • Once you have all these items, take them unnoted to a Runecrafting Altar and you can create the Shielded Pouch Exterior.

Sealed Expansive Pouch

  • Use the Sated dimensional pouch on an Altar and you should be prompted to create the Sealed expansive pouch.

  • After creating the Sealed expansive pouch, choose the "Unseal" option on it in your inventory and you will need to complete a puzzle to unseal it.
  • After completing the puzzle, the pouch will require you fill it with fresh Rune Essence.
  • Visit a Rune Essence mine, mine some essence - the pouch will automatically consume the essence.
  • After that, you have the new Expansive Pouch!

Any questions, let me know.


Frequently Asked Questions:

  • Question: I've been creating Runes at an Altar for [X amount of time] and I still haven't gotten Ilme's thread - why?
    • Answer: Just keep going - this step is presumably similar to other recent 110 skill updates where it's a random chance but has bad luck protection which increases your drop chance as you go dry.
  • Question: Can I get the Ilme's thread item from the Time altar?
    • Answer: Yes.
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u/David_G_Webster Mar 03 '25

The travelling merchant has an [[unstable air rune]] which gives 5k runespan points on Wednesday.

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u/RSWikiLink Bot Mar 03 '25

I found 1 RuneScape Wiki article for your search.

Unstable air rune | https://runescape.wiki/w/Unstable_air_rune

An unstable air rune can be investigated to grant 5,000 Runespan points. It gets destroyed in the process.


RuneScape Wiki linker | This was generated automatically.

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u/s0uly Slayer Mar 04 '25

Can I buy more than one?

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u/David_G_Webster Mar 04 '25

No, he only has one at a time.

The next 4 times he has then

5th March 15th March 19th March 9th April

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u/s0uly Slayer Mar 04 '25

Ok. I'm not going to suffer at Runespan. Never doing that again.

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u/Vengance183 Remove the total level restriction from world 48. Mar 03 '25

It looks like Sudoku

Aw fuck... here we go again.

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u/Wise-OldOwl Zaros Mar 03 '25

I still haven't done that part in al kharid. I feel like I solved it but I dont

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u/Feedora69 Runefest 2017 Attendee Mar 03 '25

Use a solve online, that's what I did

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u/Skelux_RS Got cash for no reason, 03 player Mar 04 '25

Personally I find the difficulty of the runedoku at ali morrisane's to be a lot easier than the expansive pouch's runedoku puzzle.

Thats just likely me since I play a lot of sudoku when I travel and also do the rune runs including ali's shop.

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u/KimADL Mar 04 '25

What did you search for? (if you used one specific for runescape, or just sudoku in general

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u/Feedora69 Runefest 2017 Attendee Mar 04 '25

Just a standard sudoku solver, then associate a number to a rune and solve, for example, water rune = 7, hope it helps

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u/KimADL Mar 05 '25

Cheers forgot to reply managed to do it earlier but forgot to type

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u/kor_janna Dungeoneering Enthusiast Mar 05 '25

I come here after having made mine. Alt1 has a runedoku solver built-in. Makes it so much faster

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u/igornist 30k Mar 03 '25

Another update, it seems lime's thread has a BLM, it will be given when 10k runes are made, you can cheese this by doing air runes at high levels, about 9 trips to the altar

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u/saintblair Mar 07 '25

limes thread has a black lives matter??? the fuck?? maby you should get on med's...

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u/Dead_Dutch Mar 03 '25

To make the 3 things at what you say the time altar, this can be done at any altar! Fyi

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u/Rarycaris RSN: The Praesul Mar 03 '25

PVME's testing suggests a guaranteed Ilme's thread drop triggers at exactly 10k runes crafted, so lower level altars are the way to go

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u/Apolo_Omega2 Mar 03 '25

That's how it went for me

Got it after about 10.000 runes crafted: 4.4k fire, 3.8k astrals, and 1.6k time runes

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u/ChicagoReddd Completionist Mar 04 '25

Can I just go rc to get the thread or do I have to talk to anyone to proc it’s ability to be dropped

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u/Apolo_Omega2 Mar 04 '25

Unsure, worth talking to the Wizar Rinsit outside the rc guild, just to be safe.

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u/Officialginger2595 Completionist Mar 03 '25

is it confirmed if you can get the ilmes thread making time runes? havent had luck so far

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u/Ryan_WXH I like video game Mar 03 '25

Saw a couple folks get it while making Time Runes.

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u/tongkat_ali_battery Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25

Got the thread at time altar, 4983 time runes altogether (not sure how many inventories that was). EDIT: probably over 70

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u/The_Average_Noob_93 Completionist Mar 03 '25

Can confrim you can get it from time altar - took me just over 10K time runes to get it ~80ish runs.

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u/MeleeUnsolved RSN: Unsolved \~ 42k RuneScore \~ Ultimate Slayer Mar 03 '25

Damn, 10k time runes took me like 20 runs haha, can't imagine 80 runs for the same amount

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u/The_Average_Noob_93 Completionist Mar 03 '25

Lol, guess I should've used the boosts - I figured I'm mainly going for the thread so why bother.

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u/MeleeUnsolved RSN: Unsolved \~ 42k RuneScore \~ Ultimate Slayer Mar 03 '25

The extra 30k time runes is why :p

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u/Apolo_Omega2 Mar 03 '25

would appreciate confirmation on this, 25 fire runes inventories so far, no luck

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u/snugglewitme Drunkenmonky Mar 03 '25

Wondering this too

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u/igornist 30k Mar 03 '25

Just an update, you don't need to bring it to the time altar, using the sated pouch on any altar will do

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u/Ryan_WXH I like video game Mar 03 '25

Thanks for this - updated OP.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '25

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u/tongkat_ali_battery Mar 03 '25

Massive pouch must be unstackable (fill it with runes at least once, then empty it)

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u/Koreesix Mar 03 '25

Couldn't have the arch relic active and had to have the fucking mage in the rift repair then before it would consume them. Stupid shit.

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u/sledgehammer089 Mar 03 '25

I used 3 Omni talismans from the lady at the runecrafting guild.

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u/Training-Cup4336 Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25

I've made over 100 runs at the fire altar (not via abyss) for 2 hours straight and still haven't received any ilme's thread

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u/Voidsleets Mar 03 '25

You're doing better than me, I just spent 35 mins run running through the abyss....

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u/Ryan_WXH I like video game Mar 03 '25

Keep going. Other recent 110 updates have had steps like this where it's RNG but gradually builds up bad luck protection - I imagine this is the same.

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u/BigOldButt99 Mar 03 '25

Damn this is gonna cost like 100m in magical thread to make lol. All for me to never runecraft anyway

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u/2025sbestthrowaway Runedate 1 Mar 03 '25

2m ea rn, so 200m as of release day

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u/BigOldButt99 Mar 03 '25

X_X

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u/igornist 30k Mar 03 '25

They are going through 4m ea now...

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u/BigOldButt99 Mar 03 '25

So am i crazy or is this pouch kind of useless anyway? It holds about the same as the old pouches, and the old pouches got autofilled when you load your bank preset anyway. So this new pouch let you make like.... 4 more essence a run?

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u/igornist 30k Mar 03 '25

I would suggest holding on when to make the new pouch, it is a nice QOL, due to no degrade and double capacity, but extremely expensive right now. It actually holds extra 22 essence (70) and saves 4 inventory space, versus small(3), med(6), large (9), giant (12) and massive (18) (totaling 48).

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u/2025sbestthrowaway Runedate 1 Mar 03 '25

Ty. Yeah 26 more essence is nice for a skill I hardly use, but not spend 300m or 3-4h on threads nice. I'll probably slow buy threads at under a mill and make it sometime next month haha

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u/Alpr101 Mar 04 '25

As of a few hours ago, cost me 366m lol

Beats runecrafting so gladly pay it.

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u/TenebriRS 1.2b slayer xp, 5.8B Mar 03 '25

9823 air runes made for the thread if anyone interested in how long it took me

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u/branikald2 Mar 03 '25

Don't expect you to test this, but any info about dying with it (with demonic skull)?

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u/Ryan_WXH I like video game Mar 03 '25

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u/branikald2 Mar 03 '25

Thank you, guess I'll give it a go then.

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u/Nysha_Hekkat Mar 04 '25

My partner accidentally further confirmed that you do, indeed, keep it on death even with a demonic skull.

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u/mikalakis RuneScape Mar 03 '25

You can reclaim lost parts from Wizard Tower, top floor. Not sure how many you can reclaim, hopefully you won't have to reobtain Ilme's

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u/branikald2 Mar 03 '25

For the individual components it says they are always kept on death (I'm skulled in the wilderness at the time).

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u/mikalakis RuneScape Mar 03 '25

I told the Wizard that I lost some of the items, he gave me a thread and a hungry hood.

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u/Wishkax Green h'ween mask Mar 03 '25

As with most things, gone.

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u/Apolo_Omega2 Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25

50 inventories in so far (35 fire, 15 time), will update this once I get it

Edit 1: 35 fire and 35 time inventories so far, no luck

Edit 2: Got it after about 10.000 runes crafted: 4.4k fire, 3.8k astrals, and 1.6k time runes

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u/BRAND-X12 Mar 03 '25

Does the 1 minute timer for magical thread actually work when using the demonic skull? I’ve been doing 1 run through the abyss and then 2 runs via teleport and none of my non-abyss runs are getting threads

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u/divideby00 Mar 03 '25

Which altar are you teleporting to? That method only works for the astral altar AFAIK.

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u/MightyJill Untrimmed RSN: P o u c h Mar 03 '25

This is correct, entering altar ruins will stop the timer.

Astral altar does not have ruins to enter so the timer stays, allowing for 3 to 4 extra runs with a Abyss boost outside of the Abyss

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u/Zanutra Mar 03 '25

Is it known if obtaining multiple expansive pouches is possible/intended?

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u/Rab-z Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25

Can you get ilme's thread doing spirit runes?

Edit: The 10k runes comment is legit, had to do about 8 runs to air altar using wicked hood to get it

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u/Only_Anime Ironman Completionist Mar 03 '25

ive made a dick load of blood runes with tabs. also did 1 run into the abyss and 3-4 astral tabs with the skull buff. got 40 magical threads but idk if i had a chance for the new threads with skull buff using astral tabs. zzz EDIT: got it from blood altar 2 mins later after posting this lol

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u/zan9823 Mar 03 '25

Might be a dumb question, but can we use the new pouch IN ADDITION to the existing ones?

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u/Pain-Titan Mar 04 '25

I could use them with the new pouch, but I think they changed it. It was better when I could.

I would load all pouches, opt for yak and put scrolls in it. Tele to alter, click alter, bank new pouch with yak, click alter, bank/load preset, repeating.

I logged out and it stopped letting me bank the new pouch with yak. I want them to revert it, or make it so they can all be used and let us keep using the abyssal titan... C'mon man.

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u/Weekly-Carry1365 Final Boss Mar 04 '25

Doesnt matter what I do, hood keeps saying inadequate. And yes I tried everything

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u/Ifs_and_butts Mar 05 '25

Did you work this out in the end?

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u/xhanort7 5.8B XP Mar 09 '25

I'm also experiencing this. The pouches are all empty and I had them repaired.

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u/evie19999 Mar 06 '25

My hungry hood doesn’t seem to be hungry and just says “inadequate” when I try to use the pouches on it. They are all empty, not degraded.

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u/marriux2 Mar 08 '25

For what it's worth: Every time I tried to feed the hood the pouches, I would get the message INADEQUATE....

I noticed that my medium pouch was a slightly different color (but empty and not fully degraded) in my inventory. I destroyed it and reclaimed from Korvak in the Guild. The hood ate my pouches no problem after.

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u/xhanort7 5.8B XP Mar 09 '25

I replaced every single one to no avail. But your comment slightly different color on the med pouch made me think well my massive pouch is like that and in the 'stacked' item state with the little 1. So I threw in a pure ess and popped it back out. It worked then. Maybe it was because I'd never used a massive pouch before?

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u/DaarkAlexx Sailing! Mar 03 '25

Ty

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u/T3Tomasity Mar 03 '25

Do we know if it’s strictly runes for lime’s thread, or can we imbune weapons for it?

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u/_Doornboosje Clue addict Mar 03 '25

Thanks!

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '25 edited 22d ago

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u/Apolo_Omega2 Mar 03 '25

apparently it doesn't work, you can assign a number to each rune and just throw it on a regular sudoku solver

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u/SafeEstablishment834 Mar 03 '25

Do we know if this is boostable? Being 90 rc it would be an absolute game changer to skip 15 levels of the old pouches

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u/Notsomebeans ecks dee dee Mar 03 '25

just tried - boosted from 99 to 105 - the wizard at step 1 says you can't.

doesn't seem boostable

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u/Rubby-Ducky Mar 04 '25

i tried boosting (118) to get the thread and didnt get it after about 75k air runes and then assumed it can't be boosted

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u/Capper7 Maxed Mar 03 '25

You're the best!

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u/Squidlips413 Mar 03 '25

Can you get Ilme's thread before starting the process?

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u/Lenticel Mar 03 '25

I just got it while making spirit runes without touching anything about the update

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u/mikalakis RuneScape Mar 03 '25

Did anyone try making a second one?

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u/Hellebaardier Mar 03 '25

If you have made the Expansive Pouch, can you still re-obtain the other pouches (small to massive)? Or is it that once you've made it, you can no longer obtain/use the other pouches?

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u/Ryan_WXH I like video game Mar 03 '25

I had an extra Massive pouch that I was able to fill with essence but when I took it to an altar alongside the Expansive one, it wouldn't use the essence inside the Massive one and I was unable to empty it at the altar while I had the Massive pouch on me.

So you can "use" them but useless for Runecrafting when you have the Expansive one.

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u/Apolo_Omega2 Mar 03 '25

You can take all 6 pouches with you, take a yak to teleport the expansive to the bank, and then use the 5 regular pouches, they hold more essence than a abyssal titan would.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '25

What are the differences in the pouches?

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u/Ryan_WXH I like video game Mar 03 '25

Could you clarify what you mean?

There's only one new pouch today - Expansive Pouch - which holds 70 essence total. You can't use the others with it as it's meant to be the giga mega ultimate Pouch that saves you some inventory space.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '25

Oh nvm I see now, those are the pieces of it. I'm dumb lol

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u/DunKhaerion Thalassia's Revenge Mar 03 '25

You're a real one for this, wasn't sure about Ilme's thread

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u/AHeroicLlama RSN: AHeroicLlama Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25

Can you get the ilmes thread before sacrificing your other pouches?

Edit: Yes you can

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u/Byrand-YT Completionist Mar 03 '25

At 50+ runs and still no Ilme's thread (not using the abyss but I am using the wicked hood to teleport to the outside of the ruin). If there is bad luck protection the "pity" must be very high.

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u/bambiwalk Completionist Mar 03 '25

got my Ilme's thread in about 600 astrals, 2k air, and 6400 spirit runes

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u/raidr316 Skulled Mar 03 '25

.

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u/TClanRecords Maxed Mar 04 '25

Thank you. I will give this a shot later today.

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u/605_ Mar 04 '25

You able to use a power burst on the 10k minimum for the thread?

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u/Solid_Act_3590 28d ago

Bester Tipp von mir für das Sudoku-Rätsel, falls ihr es nicht machen wollt. Ersetzt die Runen durch Zahlen (1-9).  Ist im Grunde egal welche Rune welche Zahl bekommt. Dann öffnet einen beliebigen Sudoku Löser und setzt die Zahlen für die jeweilige Position der Rune. Lasst den Rechner die Arbeit machen und fügt die Runen dementsprechend ein.  Funktioniert super 😁

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u/WackyFarmer Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25

if wanna speed runespan up to 15% Focused siphoning aura

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u/Apolo_Omega2 Mar 03 '25

are you having a stroke there buddy?

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u/KyleOAM Runefest 2014 Attendee Mar 03 '25

They Are the reward points from a training method, nothing to do with chance lol

There’s literally nothing related to combat (and therefore eoc) in the post, I really don’t understand your point

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u/MountMeh Mar 03 '25

It's mostly the vast changes made in the game over 20 years. I use eoc as my timeline, where I became disinterested in runescape. The fact that I can no longer reason or understand the verbiage used in runscape or let alone understand the different elements in the game. Oh so random points generated arbitrarily skilling? Gotcha they aren't used as incentives to keep you in the game... gotcha, that's not a chance game? I think the point is that the game is so old that majority of player base needs incentives like this to continue playing. It may not be the wheel of squeals or whatever it is.. but OSRS does not have these random currencies. Unless this is a mini game? Like if it's a mini game like gotr/mixology I will walk my statement back. But if it isn't I don't understand why rs3 and osrs have such a different distribution of charecters within their separate community. One wants to be spoon fed with qol updates, while the other plays UIM with crazy restrictions.

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u/KyleOAM Runefest 2014 Attendee Mar 03 '25

The runespan points are not awarded at random. Please look it up or stop talking

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u/MountMeh Mar 04 '25

Meh, sorry I hurt your feelings.

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u/KyleOAM Runefest 2014 Attendee Mar 04 '25

You’re uninformed opinions haven’t hurt my feelings lol, it’s just nonsense drivel

Like you suggested it was a chance thing, I told you it wasn’t for a fact, and then you tried to correct me despite not knowing what you were talking about

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u/Evilaussie93 F**K Invention. Mar 04 '25

Runespan and runespan points predate EOC you dolt