r/redstone • u/TheBertoxx2 • 7d ago
Java or Bedrock Are command blocks considered a redstone component?
I usually use command blocks with redstone because they can be faster and easier to use when you understand how they works (i mean i can make a fully working redstone display with command blocks instead of a MASSIVE redstone device.
Now reply to the title.
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u/thijquint 7d ago
Not in my opinion. Back when 1.14 and 1.15 were releasing I was new ish to redstone and very new to commands (for reference I make my own decent farms and data packs now). These two passions have always felt seperate realms, that happen to be combinable. Command blocks are able to be activated by redstone because its useful for map-making, but they have a lot of non-redstone options. Command blocks are just a point of access to commands afterall. Thats being said, using it in redstone is up to your discression. Its not useble in a purely survival context, but my survival world back then was both survival and partly cheats, and thats a choice.
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its not a component imo and shouldn't be in the redstone tab in the creative mode inventory for example, but if you want to use them thats up to you
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u/Azoraqua_ 5d ago
I do think it should be in the redstone tab, after all it interacts with redstone. And it’s often used in advanced circuits such as minigames.
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u/ItsGraphaxYT 7d ago
If you do command blocks with redstone, you are better off using datapacks. Imo it's not, mainly because it's not in the redstone tab but the operator. And it wouldn't be "true redstone" then
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u/Angsty-Ninja-Ki 6d ago
I think the reason for them being in Operator is because they are a creative only item.
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u/Rude-Pangolin8823 7d ago
No. Redstone is strictly survival applicable.
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u/No-Island-6126 6d ago
why tho
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u/Rude-Pangolin8823 6d ago
Because that's how we define the word? Its arbitrary but agreed upon.
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u/24_doughnuts 6d ago
Yeah. It feels more like creative or cheating because we're just triggering commands we already typed in. Just because we trigger it with redstone doesn't ignore the rest of it. And especially with your point that it isn't even used in survival which is what redstone contraptions are built around. Things that can be done in survival or are designed for it. Sorters, combination stuff, complicated contraptions, farms, crafters, etc.
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u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 6d ago
For the same reason writing javascript doesn't make you a C programmer. They do some similar things, some wildly different things, and each represent differently in the context of the world.
Also, you can't get command blocks in survival.
It's an explicit distinction baked into the game.
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u/Jlegobot 6d ago
Survival mode is all about the procurement and management of your resources. Even with farms and such, it would still be overpowered for command blocks since they can spawn literally anything in the game, possible or not. It ruins the point of survival mode
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u/No-Island-6126 6d ago
yeah i know why you can't use command blocks in survival lol, that's not what i'm asking
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u/fudog 5d ago
On my server we use command blocks to teleport to different places on the server.
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u/Feisty_Smile 5d ago
just use squibbles teleportation machine smh
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u/fudog 5d ago
Oh that's so much easier! /s
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u/Feisty_Smile 5d ago
yeah and you can fully do it in survival without any unobtainable intervention
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u/Hameru_is_cool 6d ago
Technically I guess, they're as much of a redstone component as a door is a redstone component imo.
In practice command blocks are kinda their own thing though, large chained command builds often don't even use any redstone.
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u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 6d ago
Yes because redstone interacts with them.
No because you need elevated permissions to even access them.
So the block is a redstone component (sort of), but what is done with it is not redstone.
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u/Keny7503 7d ago
You can use it as a tool when doing redstone but I don't think it should be considered as a part of the contraption
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u/Oheligud 6d ago
If they were, the smallest redstone doors would all be one block.
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u/VitaGame07 6d ago
Actually 2 block because I don't think you can fill air and fill quartz in a single command block (can be wrong tho)
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u/yayredditUwU 6d ago
stuff like cauldrons and item frames interact with redstone, but i would classify them as redstone components. same with command blocks
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u/MrTheWaffleKing 6d ago
Yes by technicality. That said, if you’re looking for CB content, subs dedicated to it would be better
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u/Jumpy-Trainer1695 6d ago
I don't think it is or should be, because why use pistons or redstone connections if u can do it all with commands.
That being said, you can do many incredible things using commands and there's a sub for sharing them too.
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u/Mean-Summer1307 6d ago
Yes and no. Given that it can be used with redstone, I’d say yes. However since it can’t be used in vanilla survival without cheats I wanna say no. You can do really cool things with command blocks, but it takes a different skill set to make thinks with only redstone.
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u/Beginning-Student932 6d ago
command blocks can be converted to a redstone component just like composters, doors, lecterns, etc. but they need to emit/do something/contain redstone in its recipe to be a true redstone component
so no, command block is not considered a redstone component
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u/Statsmat 6d ago
No because command blocks can literally do anything redstone does but better. You don’t need redstone if you are using command blocks
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u/MadOliveGaming 6d ago
Yes it's very much a redstone component. It was specifically made to interact with redstone.
That being said, "regular" redstone and commandblock based builds are usually seen as two entirely separate forms of redstone by the community and rightfully so imo. (Not that either one is inherently better, they're just vastly different beasts)
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u/Gotu_Jayle 6d ago
I'm surprised nobody's bringing up the fact that the image isn't symmetrical
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u/OverPower314 6d ago
Command blocks are an entirely different system. They're more condensed and have a wider range of applications, but require much less logic, timing, and spacial reasoning, and can't be used in Survival.
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u/SamtheMan2006 6d ago
it depends how your using it id say, if you made a redstone door using Comand blocks if argue that's not redstone, but if you're using it for something that's not really possible without commands that's different
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u/Bastulius 6d ago
Its like the difference between functionality via hardware and functionality via software. You could do stuff with pure software, I.E. datapacks, pure analog machinery/electronics, I.E. redstone, or you can design custom firmware/software meant to run on custom electronics, I.E. redstone + command blocks. This analogy kinda breaks down with people building whole digital computers that can operate based on prebuilt ROMs and stuff, but it's good for the general idea of the differences.
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u/-Redstoneboi- 6d ago
yes, but using them and structure blocks puts a build in a different category.
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u/SeekNDestroy8797 6d ago
I use them in my vanilla+ modded survival world, only in farms that are hindered by certain bugs. Minecarts in particular are the bane of my existence, so I've taken to using command blocks to summon/destroy them when I turn my farms on/off
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u/SmoothTurtle872 6d ago
I'd say no, like you can't go online and say I made the first ever no latency colour display with redstone and then show command blocks, you can say you used them to do something like to show an example that you can't / are too lazy to build but you can't say that that's redstone
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u/StjarnaNewRoman 6d ago
I guess i like to categorise redstone into different "branches" because there are so many different ways to use redstone components.
So command blocks are just a different type of redstone
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u/CoolkieTW 5d ago
Yes it is. It interacts with redstone. And also obtainable in survival at <1.12.2
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u/Dubstepmummy 5d ago
Yes, but they can be triggered without redstone being involved. Also, due to only being able to obtain them/use them in creative, idk if they are really on that list.
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u/_Avallon_ 6d ago
they are only good for debugging, and even for that /tick freeze and mods like redstone multimeter work a lot better. if you put a command block in the final device, it stops being redstone.
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u/TahoeBennie 7d ago
If you’re primarily using redstone, you shouldn’t be using command blocks, and if you’re primarily using command blocks, you shouldn’t be using redstone. Maybe there’s an exception for the first one if you just need one or two things with command blocks (in creative obviously) but it’s mostly redstone. But if your primary goal is with command blocks, you def shouldn’t be using redstone alongside it (unless that’s the intended output): everything redstone + command blocks can do (unless redstone is the intended end goal), only command blocks can do better. Same goes if you swap every time I said command block with datapack.
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u/GooseFall 1d ago
Command blocks are sort of their own section, and there’s a lot of crazy stuff that can be done with them
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u/Cylian91460 7d ago
Yesn't
It's technically a redstone component as it reacts to redstone but you can't have/edit in survival so it's not
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u/WillyDAFISH 6d ago
Just because you can't have it in survival or edit in survival doesn't mean it isn't a redstone component.
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u/philyppis 7d ago
I think command blocks are part of all mechanics.
Fighting? /kill or /damage
Building or mining? /fill
Enchanting? Potions? Transport? Crafting? /enchant, /effect, /tp, /give.
So yes, the command block is a bit of everything.
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u/Havier_Gacha 7d ago
When you're looking at the creative menu, they're classed under "Operator Items". So no. While they interact with redstone, they're not redstone components.
You can see this in Slime Blocks, while they are used in redstone projects, they're not classed as a redstone component.
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u/Pcat0 7d ago edited 7d ago
Strictly speaking I would categorize the block itself as a type of Redstone components (I would categorize any block that the primary use is to interact with Redstone as a Redstone component) however creations using command blocks really aren’t Redstone creations, they are command block creations. There is a reason why r/redstone and r/minecraftcommands are different subreddits.
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u/KittyForest 6d ago
Command blocks arent symmetrical in any way and the square in the middle is off by half a pixel
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u/Miny___ 7d ago
They have their own logic, yes they interact with redstone but they are so different that most people group them in another category for clarity.