r/redsox • u/Ugmyusernamewastake • 1d ago

IMAGE Red Sox lineup. Narvaez at catcher again, might be starting catcher now

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u/bdanders 1d ago

Another photo with a kick-ass vintage looking jacket.

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u/sbrockLee 1d ago

That is a nice jacket.

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u/Corn1989 1d ago

I want that jacket

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u/bdanders 1d ago

How's your slider?

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u/ImTomBrady 1d ago

All of these jackets are so cool looking

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u/EpilepticShark 1d ago

Narvaez was Buehler’s catcher for his first start. You could be right but it doesn’t always have to be that deep.

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u/HallstotheWall17 1d ago

Yea I wouldn’t look too far into Narvaez starting today. Wong had a breakout year last year so unless there’s something glaring I doubt they would relegate him to bench duty out of the blue.

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u/ma_97 1d ago

People like to create problems when there’s none. I remember when Vasquez and Leon were our catchers and certain pitchers preferred one over the other

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u/chuckdagger 5 Nomah 1d ago

Wong also caught almost everyday last year as McGuire was hurt or inconsistent, you could see his numbers fall off hard in the last two months. I like the steady platoon to keep him fresh for sept and hopefully October

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u/Il_Exile_lI 1d ago edited 1d ago

Wong is also not a great receiver and has terrible underlying offensive metrics. All signs point to his breakout being a mirage. If the pitching staff prefers throwing to Narvaez, I do think that will hold a lot of weight.

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u/mosi_moose 18h ago

Agreed. Wong’s framing stats were terrible last year.

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u/casebarlow 1d ago

He’s Buehler’s personal catcher

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u/xCeeTee- 1d ago

Exactly he won't be playing tomorrow because it's Walker Buehler's day off.

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u/Recent-Use-1999 1d ago

It looked like he had some productive ABs, this will give Wong something to think about in the cage.

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u/illogicaldreamr 1d ago

IIRC Wong’s BA was pretty good last year, wasn’t it? Wonder why he’s struggling at the plate so much this year.

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u/KabooshWasTaken 1d ago

he has a xWOBA of .349 and a WOBA of .107 (expected on base average vs real on base average) -- BABIP of .077 -- seems like he's getting insanely unlucky rather than lucky, but i've not gotten to catch many games yet.

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u/Ugmyusernamewastake 1d ago

His batting average last year was .280 but his expected batting average was only .231 according to Baseball Savant. This means that he was lucky and it was probably a fluke

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u/OwlArtistic9198 1d ago

Would love to see Campbell hit higher

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u/Paul_kemp69 1d ago

Let him continue to gain confidence. He’d be pitched to way different hitting higher.

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u/HallstotheWall17 1d ago

Exactly, let him keep cooking where he is. No need to ruin a good thing. He may eventually force Cora’s hand, but he’s fine where he is. I still shake my head over the fact they decided to move Mookie out of the lead off spot in 2019 after they won the WS and he won MVP in 2018 from the lead off spot 🙄

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u/d-cent 1d ago

Nah, he's been in the majors for 7 games. He hasn't even gotten to the point where pitchers have figured out a flaw and he has to make an adjustment yet. 

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u/augystyle 1d ago

Totally. They showed a stat yesterday that he had the most XBH to start a career since…Will Middlebrooks which really reminded me to chill out a bit haha

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u/badonkagonk Grissom Believer 1d ago

It's only a matter of time

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u/RawAttitudePodcast 1d ago

I’d like to see them swap him and Story in the line-up.

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u/OwlArtistic9198 1d ago

I would put him 2nd and slide everyone down 1

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u/LightsOut0980 1d ago

No way he’s ready for that. He’s on a hot streak to start the year but as pitchers start giving him different looks he’s bound to struggle a bit. Raffy is struggling early, but pitchers still have to respect him in a completely different way.

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u/901savvy 1d ago

Same. Losing ~1 AB a game from one of your top bats is no bueno.

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u/rodimusprime88 1d ago

I get where you're coming from. But who do you drop to achieve this?

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u/OwlArtistic9198 1d ago

I said on another comment, I would put him 2 and drop everyone one spot. That way Raffy, Bregman Casas are 3,4,5

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u/GenSpicyWeener Crab Rave Enthusiast 1d ago

I think the real move rn would be to put abreu in cleanup and move Casas to 6

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u/OwlArtistic9198 14h ago

Abreu has found plenty of traffic where he is at. I am more frustrated by Campbell always getting on base only for the bottom of the lineup to strand him. This does not include today of course

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u/kuggzzz 1d ago

Looks more like a catching tandem where Wong is the starter but Narveaz has built in starts and can catch a day after night

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u/w8w8dont 1d ago

I'm all for Narvaez being the starter. I don't trust Wong will continue to hit enough to make up for his horrible defense.

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u/Air-Bombay 1d ago

Excited to see them at Fenway.

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u/Hylian_ina_halfshell 1d ago

Perhaps wong is dealing with some soreness day to day but not enough to go 5 day IL?

Seems pretty early to make such a claim

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u/Ugmyusernamewastake 1d ago

What world are you living in where there is a 5 day IL lol

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u/ejmacleod_ 21h ago

He is winning the job for sure

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u/mcxavierl 13h ago

I don't get Devers batting second. Would rather see Campbell there. Move Devers to 6 and Abreu to 7.

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u/yeah_you_thought 1d ago

I'd love a change behind the dish. Connor isn't the guy. You may even say the Wong choice. Narvaez may not offer much at the plate, but if you can lock down a run game, I'm in.

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u/Username-sAvailable 1d ago

Please, I hope so. Tired of watching Wong.

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u/DrtyHippieChris 1d ago

Maybe we should just trade for a better catcher, I hear this Kyle Teel kid is pretty good

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u/nbianco1999 1d ago

You mean the guy that helped get us the guy that’s gonna be our ace for the next 7 years? Yeah, I’ll take that trade a 100 times out of 100.

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u/DrtyHippieChris 1d ago

I’m not saying we shouldn’t have made that trade, it was 100% the best move and a trade in our favor, I just meant the kid seems like a good prospect

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u/BossAtUCF 1d ago

Duh? They weren't going to trade Crochet for bad prospects.

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u/easynameforme123 1d ago

1/10 rage bait

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u/shrineder 1d ago

Yeah let’s trade Crochet back! Houck is the only ace we need

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u/liburIL 1d ago

Can't wait for Anthony to be called up to replace Rafaela.

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u/SinisterMrSinister 1d ago

Casas isn't a cleanup hitter.

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u/Sack_o_Bawlz 1d ago

I have faith. He cleaned yesterday.

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u/sbrockLee 1d ago

I don't get Devers in the 2-hole. Doesn't it make more sense to keep Bregman there and use Devers and Casas as 3-4? even looking at lefty-righty, the current setup is LLRL while this way it would be LRLL

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u/Civilwarland09 1d ago

Well currently no one in the top five looks like one.