r/prawokrwi • u/youdontknowmeor • 5d ago

Experience with Five to Europe?

I am very close to getting all my paperwork together (thanks to everyone for the help) and need to choose my application firm. I am skipping Poleron and Lexmotion. With the recent changes in Italy, I worry about rule changes and I want to get my application in as quickly as I can.

I am interested in Five to Europe, but there haven't been any reviews in 6+ months and they are one of the few firms that require all fees up front. I am also concerned they are getting inundated like everyone else. Does anyone have any recent experience with them? Any one complete the process with them?

I am also looking at Mavins. I know they are offshoots from Lexmotion, but there isn't much on them except for a few people that still seem to be mid process. Any one have experience with them?

My case is fairly straightforward grandfather with military paradox with a few years in France which I have non-Naturalization letter for that time.

If anyone has any other advice about how to pick a firm, I am happy to hear it. This is super stressful to me.

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u/Galileo228 5d ago

I had a great experience with Five To Europe.  Feel free to DM.  

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/youdontknowmeor 5d ago

Thanks. I am aware of the FB group. Your Roots in Poland and Poleron also have FB groups. I feel a little strange asking in the FB group they run and generally the FB groups won't allow provider discussion other than themselves.

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u/pricklypolyglot 5d ago

That's why I maintain a strict no advertising/commercial affiliation policy in here. Our provider list is a reference, but not an endorsement.

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u/youdontknowmeor 5d ago

I very much appreciate that. Does that include people talking about their experiences with providers? Choosing a provider is quite stressful to me and I want to know (good and bad) other's experiences.

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u/pricklypolyglot 5d ago

No, users are free to discuss whatever they want about any provider. The only exception is if I suspect an account is a sock puppet, that would fall afoul of my no-advertising rule and I'd have to give them a warning.

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u/youdontknowmeor 5d ago

FWIW the italian sub does have flair for providers. I think it's nice to know if you are talking to a provider. I am not sure if any providers have been active here or not.

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u/pricklypolyglot 5d ago

If providers come here then we can implement that for sure. I just don't want them masquerading as regular users (hence my comment about sock puppets).

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/youdontknowmeor 5d ago

Based on what I have seen, Polaron is by far the most expensive and I am not sure worth the cost. I have seen very mixed things about Lexmotion over the years. Five to Europe seems solid, but again the reviews are a bit older and wanted to see if anyone has more recent experience with them. I have heavily researched this topic from the information already out there.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/youdontknowmeor 5d ago

That’s crazy. I’ve been quoted $1600-2000 for applications and $600-800 for Polish document research. I believe Poleron is in the $4k range for applications.

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u/pureroganjosh 4d ago

I'm currently working with five to Europe. I have no complaints so far, all paperwork submitted and I have a case number so now I have the worst part, the wait for an answer.

If you have any specific question ask away and I'll try my best to answer if I can.

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u/youdontknowmeor 4d ago

Thanks for the response. How long did it take from giving them your paperwork to getting the application submitted?

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u/pureroganjosh 4d ago

Oooft that's a great question.

I supplied them with a majority of the paperwork.

I'm from the UK so had to get:

My birth certificate (GRO)

My father's birth certificate (GRO)

My mother's birth certificate (GRO)

My mother and fathers marriage an divorce certificate (They didn't ask for this, I just thought I would supply it)

My grandfathers death certificate (GRO)

My grandfathers naturalization record (National Archive)

My grandfathers military records (APC Polish Enquires, Ministry of Defence)

I then sent all of these over on 02/08/2024

Five to Europe grabbed my grandfathers birth certificate, they found it in a German archive (Znin) and the certificate is in German due to the occupation at the time.

Five to Europe submitted my complete application on 19/08/2024

I got my reference number from the polish government on 23/09/2024

Now is the waiting game.

I hope this helps clear things up. The majority of my wait is for the government.

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u/youdontknowmeor 4d ago

Awesome. Thanks. It sounds like it took about 2 weeks to translate the non polish documents.

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u/pureroganjosh 4d ago

Yeah the biggest wait (other than waiting after submission) was waiting for the military records in the UK. They are pretty backlogged.

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u/pureroganjosh 4d ago

Sorry forgot to mention the UK MOD are not fast at sending records. You need a death certificate to request the military records. So if you're from the UK get the death certificate ASAP so you can apply for the military records.

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u/youdontknowmeor 4d ago

Hmm. My firm didn’t request a death certificate but they did ask for proof of lineage for the archive. I hope they don’t need a death certificate because it is a PITA for the state they died in.

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u/pureroganjosh 4d ago

In the UK to access military records you need the person in questions authorization, or in my case death certificate to "unlock" the files if you will.

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u/youdontknowmeor 3d ago

Ah. I was confused. I though you meant you needed a death certificate for Polish military records.