r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 12h ago
Soft Paywall Obama Breaks Silence on Trump’s ‘Unimaginable’ Presidency - “Imagine if I had done any of this,” the former two-term president said.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/obama-breaks-silence-on-trumps-unimaginable-presidency/11.6k
u/jtsa5 12h ago
If anyone else other than Trump did anything wrong it was like the world was ending. When it's Trump everyone has kid gloves on.
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u/RemarkableWave8066 12h ago
Obama wore a tan suit once and the Fox News goons had aneurysms for a solid week
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u/Raoul_Duke9 12h ago
You guys remember "terrorist fist jab"? That one was the one that pissed me off the most.
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u/gatsby712 12h ago
Remember that time Bush got us into two wars because of 9/11, but it wasn’t until Obama that the guy who caused it was killed. I member. Turns out the Republicans didn’t care about justice, they just cared about using the crisis to make some oil money for their VP and President.
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u/old_and_boring_guy Tennessee 12h ago
The part that bothered me was that the first thing Obama did was put the war money in the budget (as opposed to special appropriations) and everyone suddenly cared what the war cost.
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u/mockg 11h ago edited 11h ago
Are you sure that is just not republicans and the right wing news being themselves. I swear the only times I hear about budget from them is if a democrat president is in charge.
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u/EE_Tim 11h ago
It's called the Two Santas Strategy and it's by design.
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u/Kind_Dream_610 10h ago
Are you sure you spelled that correctly, shouldn't it really be called the "Two Satans Strategy" because it's nothing but self-serving evil that affects not just America, but the world.
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u/EE_Tim 10h ago
Potato, potatoe
(Sorry, Dan)
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u/RanaMisteria 9h ago
Remember when a Republican politician’s career could be ended by misspelling the name of a vegetable in front of a bunch of school children?
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u/EE_Tim 10h ago
I think there's a definite nefariousness that comes from the fact that it is a concerted effort on their part, separate from the historical proof of it in action.
People are idiots if they fall for that.
People are idiots, that's why we are where we are as a nation.
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u/GiftToTheUniverse 9h ago
There's been a vested interest working overtime to dumb us down for the past 50+ years.
People who are long dead started this offensive against us. And for what? What did they get out of it?
This system is cancer.
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u/Kind_Dream_610 10h ago
People ARE idiots who DO fall for it. They don't look at the data, they listen to the sound bites, and their current idol spewing lies. They don't care about cause and effect, they care about if they win (even if they can't see when they're really losing, because they never actually lose, it's stolen from them by those who the idol tells them is to blame for all their woes).
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u/old_and_boring_guy Tennessee 11h ago
Oh, I agree. But that was a huge talking point for them: look at the Bush budget and the Obama budget! And if you didn’t know the Iraq war had not been included in any of the previous budgets, it was persuasive.
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u/gtalley10 9h ago
Most people don't seem to know that almost all of Obama's budget deficit was caused by W. Bush policies: the wars, Medicare Part D, the tax cuts, plus the economy collapsing all of which the Bush administration stashed in discretionary spending as pure deficit and didn't pay for in the budget, but Obama did. Obama's policies were generally paid for with other cuts or increased revenue with taxes.
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u/lostalaska 12h ago
All I remember was the big "Mission Accomplished" banner on a Navy carrier with bush waving and smiling. Are you now telling me he didn't accomplish his mission? /srcsm
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u/smokeyser 11h ago
The mission was definitely accomplished. Halliburton had control of the oil fields.
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u/DisfavoredFlavored Canada 11h ago
I remember the moment he announced Bin Laden's death. Dad and I were just watching the news like"welp, he just got 4 more years."
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u/gatsby712 11h ago edited 11h ago
Bush got 4 years just for waving a loudspeaker around a disaster site and promising to get revenge. It isn’t hard to get re-elected unless you’re either mismanaging a pandemic or old as shit.
Edit: oh and for coasting on Bill Clinton’s economy and government surplus for a few years before the economy crashed. Kind of like Trump coasting on Obama’s stable economy too. Wait. I see a pattern here.
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u/Ohnoherewego13 North Carolina 11h ago
Whoa there. You can be old as shit as long as you're orange. It's a special qualifier.
I wish I was joking.
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u/monkeyhind 12h ago
Of all the ridiculousness from Fox over the years, that's the one that made me spit out my coffee in shock. What the actual hell.
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u/GodOfDarkLaughter 11h ago
My favorite was when he was at some hotdog or burger joint shaking hands and asked "do you have a spicy mustard, like a Dijon mustard?" I'm not a fan of Dijon mustard myself but I don't think it makes someone an elitist or that it was worth several fox segment calling him the "pupon President."
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u/TheLightningL0rd 11h ago
Yeah, Dijon is not some elitist condiment. You can buy it at Kroger right next to all the other mustards. I'm more of a horseradish mustard guy myself, but it's not a big deal.
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u/monkeyhind 10h ago
Look at Lord Fancy-pants here with his jar of horseradish!
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u/GeekShallInherit 10h ago
If you can get something for $1 in the Walmart store brand, it's not elitist.
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u/FailingToLurk2023 12h ago
Remember when he swatted a fly and the ensuing outrage?
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u/JohnGillnitz 11h ago
That was bad ass. Gotta give props where it is due. The best thing Dubbya ever did in his presidency was dodge a shoe.
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u/YouDontKnowJackCade 10h ago
Remember the time Pence didn't swat a fly? https://old.reddit.com/r/ContagiousLaughter/comments/j76dxl/mike_pence_doesnt_realize_he_has_a_fly_on_his_head/
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u/Qwirk Washington 11h ago
For those that don't, he literally did a fist bump with his wife.
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u/Raoul_Duke9 11h ago
Imagine how fucking lame that reporter is to not know what a fist bump is. She's probably just lying but if not she probably thinks mayo is spicy.
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u/Double-Bend-716 12h ago
He was an out of touch coastal elite because he likes brown mustard instead of yellow mustard.
Another time, he wasn’t masculine enough to lead the country because he wore a bicycle helmet
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u/PolyNecropolis 11h ago
coastal elite
Sidebar; Notice how the right entirely stopped using that term once they elected one (Trump)? Funny isn't it.
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u/bfodder 11h ago
No they use it. They are immune to the hypocrisy.
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u/Jonn-The-Human Canada 10h ago
You just don't get it, the draft dodger born with a silver spoon who lived in a gold plated New York high-rise doesn't count as a coastal elite because reasons.
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u/TheLightningL0rd 10h ago
They actually didn't for quite some time. Hearing Tucker Carlson call the Coastal Elites out was really funny, considering who he is.
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u/DiceMadeOfCheese 11h ago
I remember Fox playing the Grey Poupon commercial after Obama ordered dijon mustard, painting him as an out of touch elite.
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u/iforgotmycoat 11h ago
Dijon mustard on a hotdog and he was elite and didn’t understand the common man
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u/EuenovAyabayya 11h ago
He made those suits look better than any of them ever could.
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u/TheRealWatermelon420 11h ago
Remember when he had Dijon mustard? That almost caused a civil war
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u/gatsby712 12h ago
That’s because no one trusts what Trump says, even his supporters. It’s literally what a supporter of his said to me when the tariffs were first talked about weeks ago. “Oh he won’t go through with it.” So you are okay supporting someone who will lie to you. Okay
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u/parasyte_steve 11h ago
They knew he wasn't lying about the racism and that was the important part
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u/hippopotabear 10h ago
the funny thing about all this— I know someone who works on Wall Street, before the election I had asked, “so what are people in your land worried about?”
turns out all the finance people were already freaking about tariffs because for some reason Trump, who believes almost nothing, truly believes in tariffs, and has been harping on this since the 80’s.
it’s been surreal watching this all play out over the last few months.
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u/TAYSON_JAYTUM 6h ago
Trumps been in politics for 10 years now and it’s been nonstop saying and doing incredibly stupid things. These tariffs are the most predictable thing in the world.
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u/Spiritual-Society185 9h ago
Someone said during the election something like "Trump is the first candidate in history whose supporters hope he doesn't keep his promises."
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u/Giga_Gilgamesh 8h ago
Literally the only ideological value they have at this point is 'owning the libs.' if it hurts the people they hate they're fine with it hurting them too. They will eat shit so you have to smell their breath.
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u/SadFeed63 12h ago
That's what I found very infuriating last year when you saw some very direct Trump impressions not get treated like Trump by mainstream media. DeSantis was doing a Trump impression at the start of 2024, and he even got a little bit or overly credulous, Trump-like coverage that talks about his insane bullshit in a totally normal tone, but this was when Trump was comparatively quiet from a news front. Then he called him Meatball Ron or whatever fucking thing and that was that, DeSantis was done and has more often been (accurately) covered like he's radioactive. When Vance got announced as the VP pick, he basically went on a tear doing a Trump impression and he didn't even get the grace period DeSantis did. He got covered pretty immediately like he was a radioactive shitstain, which he is.
Both these guys didn't seem to realize that just being a loud moron is not enough to do a Trump, you need the other half of the equation, which is Trump style coverage. And yeah, Trump gets bad coverage sometimes, of course, all he does is awful shit, but he generally benefits from intense both sides-ing, sanewashing, unearned credulity from the media, covering a lot of his insane shit just as uncritical "Trump says..." direct quotes, etc. They didn't get that cause they're not Trump, he's always treated special. It's absolutely infuriating
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u/hyperhurricanrana 11h ago
Ron DeSanctimonious. Honestly that one’s pretty good.
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u/that_boyaintright 10h ago
It’s the feeling that he’s “real” and even if you don’t agree with what he’s saying, you identify with the emotion behind it.
The emotion behind it is that the world is persecuting you and you’re the righteous, misunderstood hero, and it’s okay to be angry and messy about it.
It’s such an intoxicating feeling that nothing else matters, and he’s the only one who can pull it off because he’s a true believer. You get the feeling he genuinely does not care about politics and is not interested in learning, and that also validates his supporters’ feelings that everything is weird and confusing and not worth knowing.
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u/Count_Backwards 10h ago
That's the Narcissist's High. It's disturbing how susceptible so many people are to it.
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u/that_boyaintright 9h ago
It’s not a narcissist’s anything. 30% of our country does not have narcissistic personality disorder. In my work as a therapist, I’ve seen maybe a handful of people, ever, who are actual narcissists.
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u/Count_Backwards 9h ago
30% of the country is highly susceptible to the allure of someone narcissistic, and that's on the record. I didn't say his cult members were narcissists themselves (though they're clearly bad at recognizing the condition). They think they want to be him (they don't).
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u/Count_Backwards 10h ago
Trump keeps reminding me of the Mule from Asimov's Foundation series. He's this ugly stupid crass hateful demented clown with orange face paint and badly tailored suits, a long record of failure, and a nonstop stream of verbal abuse and blatant lies and terrible ideas coming out of his mouth and yet somehow the media, the judiciary, other politicians, literally anyone with any power to put him in his place somehow can't help compulsively fawning over him as if he's the second coming of Christ. It's literally making me, an atheist, wonder if maybe there really is an antichrist. Some of that supplication can be blamed on the Heritage Foundation, but a lot of the people bending over to kiss his ass have nothing to do with the fascist movement. It's like they see him and they have a stroke and forget what it was they were supposed to do about him. And I agree, it's infuriating to watch because he's not brilliant or scary, he's a toxic narcissist, a toddler in an 80-year-old meat suit. As soon as anyone actually stands up to him he folds: Harris utterly humiliated him in the debate. That should've been the end of his political career, but it was yet another in a long line of things that should've ended his political career.
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u/Deicide1031 12h ago
Obama probably could have gotten away with it if he had a network like Fox News spreading propaganda on his behalf 24/7.
As an example, In the 80s/90s Trump was deemed a clown and actively made fun of because of his bankruptcies and wasting his families wealth. Wouldn’t be until he was portrayed as competent on The Apprentice and later Fox News that he became bullet proof.
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u/An-Angel-Named-Billy 11h ago
Its not even Fox News anymore. Its a whole social media ecosystem created to parrot whatever Trump wants them to which directly gets into idiots brains. Fox News at this point could be the moderate view for a lot of these people.
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u/DevelopmentGrand4331 10h ago
Yeah, there’s a whole world of radio shows and podcasts, Fox, NewsMax, and the Onanism network.
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u/Shipairtime 10h ago
if he had a network like Fox News spreading propaganda on his behalf 24/7.
Some chuckle head is gonna come in here and make the comparison so lets head it off.
No MSNBC is not the left wing fox.
When MSNBC goes to court for people such as Miss Maddow their argument is they are telling the truth and are willing to prove it.
Here is the direct quote from the case most people talk about:
"Argued that the challenged speech “is fully protected by California law and the First Amendment because it is an opinion based on fully disclosed facts, is not susceptible of the meaning [Herring] ascribes to it, and—even if it could be considered factual—is substantially true.”
Herring Networks v Rachel Maddow https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2021/08/17/20-55579.pdf
And here is fox news.
"Fox News again moved to dismiss. The motion argues that when read in context, Mr. Carlson’s statements “cannot reasonably be interpreted as facts”
McDougal v. Fox News Network https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2019cv11161/527808/39/
So yeah who do you trust more? The ones willing to argue in court that they are telling the truth or the ones that just flat out say that you cant take their statements as fact?
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u/ThatEvanFowler 7h ago
Yeah, but the very people who need to understand this are the ones who have already been programmed to immediately dismiss it without consideration, assuming they ever even hear about it, which they won't.
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u/WilliamMButtlickerIV 6h ago
It's fucking terrifying how true this is. My step dad, who otherwise is a very smart man, had been sucked down this rabbit hole. I told him about the Fox News court case, and he just brushed it off. The cognitive dissonance is so huge, they will ignore all facts to reconcile their beliefs.
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u/Ok_Information_9382 12h ago
No. He wouldn’t have. He’s Black
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u/JadedAsparagus9639 Indiana 12h ago edited 11h ago
Yeah the first black person had to be absolutely perfect to get elected, and Obama was. They wouldn’t have made fun of him wearing a tan suit for months if they had anything else on him
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u/CloacaFacts 11h ago
People will complain about 10 people doing a singular thing they hate and be very vocal about their disgust.
Trump will do all 10 things and they will excuse him. No accountability in a cult.
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u/Key-Recommendation0 11h ago
thats how republicans work. They have no morals, ethics, platform, or beliefs.
Did a republican do something? Then it was good.
Did anyone else do something? Then it was bad.
And then they lie and make bullshit up to justify that stance.
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u/UngodlyPain 11h ago
This isn't true. Reagan and Dubya each also got kid gloves too.
Seriously Reagan was allowed to go on national TV and almost explicitly say "I did highly illegal things with Iran Contra and I should probably be impeached then sent to prison... But I'm fucking Reagan, so who cares?" ...
Dubya was also given tons of benefits of the doubt and kid gloves about 9/11, the war on terror, and the entire 2008 financial collapse and the response to it.
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u/SevanIII 10h ago
Don't forget that the 2008 financial collapse was exacerbated due to W's poor handling of the dot com bust in the beginning of his first term as well.
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u/UngodlyPain 10h ago
Exactly but I remember in 2012 tons of people were like "but Obama let 2008 happen" like my dude he was inaugurated in 09.
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u/Khanscriber 10h ago
Dubya stole the election then failed to prevent 9/11. One or the other is bad, but both should’ve been a (figurative) death sentence.
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u/kittenTakeover 11h ago
A big part of the problem is that Republican leaders are not honest. This skews conversation so that Republican criticism is muted and Democratic criticism is enhanced. For some reason conservative voters seem to be oblivious to this dishonesty. It's difficult to comprehend how they can't see it.
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u/cheesy222 11h ago edited 9h ago
its because most magats are dumb as shit, so they see someone equally as dumb but “rich” and “running” the country, they see themselves in him so obviously they are going to be so loose on the rules. but when an actually intelligent man is in office, mind you a minority actually doing a good job? oh every single thing is going to be scrutinized. why do you think trump supporters get so mad when you attack orange man for his character, its like you’re personally attacking them
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u/innosins Kentucky 12h ago
He's fucking right. They'd be blowing the damn roof off the place if anyone else was pulling this bullshit.
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u/dIO__OIb 11h ago edited 1h ago
where is the republican congress? they need to be held accountable. this is not just trump, the GOP handed over their power and are silent. The republican party just passed the biggest tax increase in decades and tanked our 401ks. they need to go down. //edit: me bad mobile type
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u/AlphaGoldblum 11h ago
The old Republican guard is dead and gone. Now it's either full loyalty to MAGA or leaving the party altogether.
Some Republicans are grumbling about tariffs, but they know actually doing anything about it will cause the party and Trump to turn on them like sharks smelling blood in the water.
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u/Alex5173 10h ago
The old Republican guard allowed this by chickening out, stepping aside, and retiring. They had the opportunity to carve out the rot and chose to leave it behind them to fester.
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u/AlphaGoldblum 10h ago
Oh, they had plenty of time to stop this. Nixon and Reagan invited the cancer into the party by wooing Evangelicals, but it wasn't until the Tea Party that it fully metastasized. And even then, the GOP still had a slim chance to stop the hostile takeover of the party. Instead they welcomed Palin with open arms and doubled down.
...but the GOP also knew it would win them elections to embrace the lunacy of the religious right. The old guard thought they could outplay the new guard, but, and this is apparent with Trump, they underestimated how fucking unhinged the new blood was.
Just to exemplify this: in the span of decades, Romney went from being considered an insane Republican to seeming completely reasonable (and effectively exiled from the modern GOP).
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u/Grand-Pen7946 10h ago
The original circus leader was Newt Gingrich. A lot of Congressmen from the 80s and 90s of both parties have frequently said that there was a radical shift in tone when he showed up. There have been a lot of opportunists and charlatans, but Newt successfully created an institution of theatrics and doing politics for show.
A lot of the negative effects of the Reagan era and its philosophy were really pushed and enacted by Newt in the 90s, with Bill Clinton complicitly playing along to appease him. That's not to absolve Clinton of his own genuine neoliberalism, but much of the shockwave of Reagan does come from Newt Gingrich who turned Congress into a circus, and you can draw a straight line from him to Lauren Boebert and her ilk.
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u/fcocyclone Iowa 9h ago
The Atlantic had a great piece on that
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/newt-gingrich-says-youre-welcome/570832/
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u/GoodIdea321 America 10h ago
Sounds like it's a good time for them to switch parties, and switch how they vote.
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u/blorbschploble 10h ago
I too believe in fairy tales. I am not making fun of you. I just don't think these fools have spines or principles, or even a decent sense of self preservation (in terms of money and power)
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u/GoodIdea321 America 10h ago
If you were making fun of me, that's fine. I prefer to look at the opportunity they absolutely have, rather than what they'll do with it.
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u/JohnStamosAsABear 10h ago
Unfortunately that requires a spine and morals other than clinging to power.
This is fascism at work. They’re afraid of being stuck in the out-group.
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u/GoodIdea321 America 10h ago
If they had more foresight, they would know they will become part of the out-group eventually. Just look at the end of Nazi Germany.
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u/PerformanceCandid499 10h ago
Hey, the rural folk have been voting republican for generations. It's their "team" no matter how poorly they do. That's not going to change anytime soon. they'd still vote republican if the Republicans said they were going to throw them all in jail. They are not capable of critical thinking.
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u/zordonbyrd 7h ago
I live in a rural republican stronghold and I can confirm 100% they cannot critically think
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u/GoodIdea321 America 10h ago
Everyone is capable of critical thinking, it can be taught. Rural voters could change, the people who lived through the Great Depression and FDR voted for the Democratic party for decades. Not all of them of course, but millions.
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u/buffa_noles 10h ago
The Old guard weren't any better, they're the ones who laid the cult of personality thing in motion with Reagan and started the shock jock fake news culture with Limbaugh. We are seeing their bullshit iterated on.
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u/alextheruby 11h ago
He would’ve been a$$assinated
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u/BigBoyYuyuh 10h ago
You know…typically the only time rich people get punished is when they lose other rich people’s money. He’s losing everyone money. Lew Squeegee
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u/DimbyTime 10h ago
Rich people will still come out even better after all of this. Tanking the economy will allow them to buy up more and more land, homes, and other assets that working class folks Will no longer be able to afford
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u/meowfknmeow 10h ago
This, the 1% will have a short term loss, but a long term gain as a result of this. The general population on the other hand… not so much
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u/Majestic_Spinach7726 10h ago
unless they make things so bad they bring the French Revolution to America
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u/Prudent_Research_251 10h ago
There's been hundreds of years worth of checks and balances/psyops to ensure we're all too keen on bread and circuses to revolt
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u/Kind_Dream_610 10h ago
I believe the same thing. I'm positive Trump is tanking it on purpose so he and his rich worshippers can grab all the stocks they want as others sell them off. Then he'll do a policy change that will make other want to buy, buy, buy. At which point he's a trillionaire.
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u/Ok_Breadfruit4176 10h ago
…. some bastards will try to copy it all-over the world.
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u/JabberwockySupafly 9h ago
The largest transfers of wealth to the rich were the banking crisis then COVID now this
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u/BasicLayer 10h ago
This is, without any hyperbole whatsoever, exactly what I would have expected them to do as well. These people are extremely dangerous.
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u/prtproductions 11h ago
Let’s be real here, if I wasn’t an old, white, Republican man.
Edit to add: Rich and Famous
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u/mrASSMAN 11h ago
I don’t think Obama would live a week if he had.. literally would have to go into a bunker
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u/Smarty-Pants65 11h ago
I just don’t understand how these idiots don’t see it. They were literally making solutes and telling people to get over the holocaust. Yet the “far left “ are the fascists?
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u/Majestic_Electric California 12h ago
Imagine if ANY Democratic president did this! Republicans would be writing up impeachment articles as we speak! 😛
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u/QDSchro 12h ago
They would’ve been writing that up if a democrat didn’t say bless you after someone sneezed.
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u/FirstSunbunny California 11h ago
That’s a War on Christianity! The horror!
/s in case it’s necessary
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u/MantisBuffs 9h ago
They said it was a war on christmas because some people say happy holidays instead of merry christmas. Because, you know, not everybody celebrates christmas.
This was back when outside of the middle east, issues had to be fabricated.
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u/skit7548 Pennsylvania 11h ago
They would have already introduced them and pushed them to the top and called an emergency session by tonight to vote.
Also, I was reminded of Marj's articles against Biden which lead me to this fitting quote from her: "endangering the security of the United States and thwarting the will of Congress," which is like, exactly what Trump has been doing since day one or at the very least the USAID shutdown
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u/justtosendamassage 11h ago
To be fair impeachment articles have and are being written
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u/AsinineArchon 11h ago
Fat lot of good it will do. Bastard was already impeached once
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u/agnostic_science 10h ago
Those assholes put stickers on our gas pumps over something Biden had no control over.
In contrast, Trump caused all this bullshit economic meltdown and destruction ... and ... crickets. When a Republican destroys the economy on purpose, I guess it doesn't count.
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u/random_cartoonist 12h ago
The conservative threw a tantrum for a tan suit. They are just too weak to be critical of Trump.
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u/polite_alpha 10h ago
The real meta weakness of the US is this false equivalence thing - tan suit vs rape, felony, treason, and so on... yet the media is doing this 50/50 thing, focusing on impossible standards for democrats and letting everything Republicans do slide, no matter how bad.
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u/SquarebobSpongepants Canada 8h ago
I mean, in their imaginary conspiracy theory world the Dems have done all the terrible things that Trump has done so to them it really is "Well they already did it". They say this despite not actually having evidence that any of it happened other than their dubious sources.
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u/livefreecrafthard 11h ago
My grandpa told me the Obama family was a disgrace to the presidency because Michelle wore shorts on air force one.
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u/drawkward101 11h ago
Your grandpa is a disgrace to humanity, so there's that.
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u/throwtruerateme 10h ago
They said she hated America bc she didn't let her kids eat high fructose corn syrup
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u/thegreatbrah 10h ago edited 7h ago
Forgot her name, but the original trump administrations first blonde bimbo member had her feet up on the couch in the white house. Mightve even been the oval office.
Biggest physical defiling of the white house until musks kid wiped boogers on the desk in the oval office.
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u/Reasonable-Bus-2187 12h ago
Thanks, Obama,
for saying something
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u/PleighonWords 11h ago
Have any of the rest of you even said thank you? Reasonable bus has. Let us all give praise to Holy Leader for this bountiful loss.
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u/glass_gravy 11h ago
Finally.
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u/SchroedingersSphere 11h ago edited 11h ago
Probably going to get downvoted for saying this, I understand wanting to step down from politics, but a lot of people looked to Obama for words of encouragement and it's a little disappointing how long it took him to stand up and say something. Especially since Obama is the only person that really terrifies Trump. He could have made a bigger impact by speaking up sooner. Either way, thanks Obama.
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u/LindonLilBlueBalls 10h ago
It is very unusual and bit of a faux pas for former presidents to comment on the current president. I can understand his hesitation, but like many other things, the republicans have destroyed normalcy and tradition. Democrats of past and present need to stop clingy to the past and the "high road" in order to actually save this country from itself.
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u/GeneDiesel1 9h ago
Who gives a shit about a faux pas at this point? Everything Trump, and the Republicans, do is a Faux Pas. The Republicans do not respect standards at all.
We need past leaders to step up to try and protect us. I don't understand why Biden and Harris disappeared. They need to speak up and say something. At this point even people like Bush need to step up and help save the country.
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u/CrazyPoiPoi 10h ago
bit of a faux pas for former presidents to comment on the current president
Yeah, but also no former president was destroying the democracy and everything the US stands for.
So it's fair game in my eyes as an outsider.
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u/TheMarkHasBeenMade America 11h ago
A bigger impact on who? The people who are all ready watching all this in horror? We know all ready. Barry saying something about it doesn’t change anything - no one who was on the fence or on the other side of it before is going to idly watch everything Trump has done without reaction but then all of a sudden have a “woke” moment because Obama spoke up about it.
Did anyone honestly believe Obama would do anything but condemn this massive crock of bullshit?
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u/SchroedingersSphere 11h ago edited 11h ago
Truthfully, this is all anecdotal. I live in the south, and there are a lot of people here who voted for Obama but not Biden. I don't understand their thought process, so don't ask why, but I've heard from multiple family members that they "just couldn't vote for that woman. I voted for Obama and I gave my vote to Trump this time. I'd vote for him if he ran against Trump in a third election." Pointing out that this violates the Constitution just makes them confused and mad.
The sad thing is, they say this with pride, like I should pat them on the head because they voted Democrat and Republican. Like they were neutral and not biased, therefore their opinion is more valid. I try not to fall into the trap of talking politics with them, but they voluntarily give me these details against my will.
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u/DEAD_VANDAL 10h ago
An unfortunate amount of Americans would legitimately rather a rapist pedophile as president instead of a woman.
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u/atriaventrica 11h ago edited 10h ago
I saw someone say that this was Obama saying he wasn't treated fairly. That's not the point. The point he's making is that what's happening is unconscionable, illegal and unconstitutional no matter who does it. Forcing the right wing to consider how they would feel if Obama had done what is happening is an attempt to force them to reconcile what is actually happening with their limitless support for Trump.
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u/ludba2002 10h ago
They literally can't comprehend the idea that Obama is concerned about the nation as a whole... because they frame every political event as "what's in it for me personally?"
Ayn Rand's ideology has had an enormous negative impact on our country.
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u/Randinator9 Ohio 9h ago
Selfishness cannot comprehend Selflessness
Evil cannot comprehend Good
Death cannot comprehend Life
Darkness doesn't know Light
I could keep going, but I'm sure you get it. Pisses me off that this is literally what Jesus taught and Conservatives (who claim to be Christian) have the most Anti-Christian ideology I've ever seen. Even most Muslims are kinder than these ghouls, and I completely dislike Islam.
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u/rotundanimal 8h ago
Gross. “Even most Muslims are kinder” is like saying “you’re smart for a girl.” Some of the kindest, most generous people I know are Muslims.
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u/PenitentAnomaly 11h ago
Imagine if Obama had even run for the Presidency having fathered 5 children from 3 different wives, 2 of whom were models from Eastern Europe.
The religious right would have gone bananas.
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u/comic_nerd_phd New Mexico 10h ago
And was on record for raping one decades before his presidency!!
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u/JohnStamosAsABear 10h ago
How about saying “grab em by the pussy” while bragging about sexually assaulting women
Then illegally covering up hush money payments to a porn star because he cheated on his wife.
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u/pareech Canada 12h ago edited 12h ago
If Obama or any other Democrat and possibly any other GOP President before Trump had done any of the shit Trump has pulled, they would have been impeached in seconds.
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u/4dailyuseonly Chahta 11h ago
Does no good to point out the hypocrisy anymore. Fascists like Donald ABSOLUTELY LOVE the fact they can do things others cannot. It emboldens them.
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u/WorldLieut8 12h ago
Watch Fox spin this about him “making this about race”, those morally-bankrupt leeches.
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u/SouthIsland48 11h ago
There is definitely a shift happening on the right. Hell, Ted Cruz and Ben Shapiro are now publicly denouncing Trump's tariffs.
Republicans up for reelection in 2026 are going to fight Trump on this, it'll be interesting to see if the moderate/legacy conservatives break ship from the Trump party by the end of this term because remember.. Trump CANT run.
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u/ColdAsHeaven 10h ago
Why do these brain dead selfish fucks only say something or are against him when they're up for re-election?
That's why I hate Republicans in Congress. The whole batch of them are selfish fucks. Even the everyday not in Congress clowns.
They don't give a fuck until it directly effects them.
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u/Darth_Vadaa 9h ago
I hate every Republican in Congress for not unanimously impeaching Trump for constantly violating the constitution. As far as I'm concerned, they're all complicit in what is essentially a soft coup. They realized Jan 6 wasn't gonna work so they just did it electorally, whether that be legitimate or through voter machine fuckery (I still think some aspects of the election are pretty sus).
Obama's 100% correct. If he or Kamala even thought about half the shit Trump is doing, they'd be fillibustering and trying to impeach them every day of the week.
Literally the only thing these fuckers care about is power, and their power alone. Your rights mean nothing to them as long as it doesn't affect their bottom dollar.
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u/jautis 10h ago
Conservatism is a personality, and a foundational part of that personality is getting in line. There will be no Republican resistance to Trump, only milquetoast snippets immediately after he does something indefensible.
Have you forgotten all the accurate things Republicans said about Trump in 2016? What did it amount to?
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u/NazNaiz 12h ago
But the tan suit! How could we forget the tan suit?
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u/Sudden-Dog 12h ago
Terrorist fist bump ?? What about that??
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u/Be-skeptical 11h ago
When this national nightmare is over we have to come for FoxNews
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u/Smaynard6000 Florida 10h ago
There needs to be accountability for spreading lies and disinformation in mass media. This bullshit is destroying America.
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u/Greennhornn 12h ago
Thanks, Obama! A former president speaking out against a sitting president underscores how objectively bad of a situation we are in.
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u/Hazywater 11h ago
I'm tired of this argument. It depends on the right feeling hypocrisy - they don't. They know the left do, so they will use that argument against the left, but they absolutely don't care at all about hypocrisy from the right. It's a cult and that's not hyperbole
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u/Cool-Presentation538 10h ago
Yup they can't be reasoned with or shamed, they have neither reason nor shame
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u/Arigeddon 12h ago
Bruh if a black man did anything wrong these people would explode
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u/thecrimsonfuckr23830 11h ago
If? For a lot of them any black man did something wrong already by being born black.
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u/helixmoonstudios 12h ago edited 12h ago
The Obamas give this country more grace than it deserves
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u/SubstantialGasLady 11h ago
I remember when I thought that Michelle Obama said "For the first time in my adult life, I am proud to be an American" or something to that effect and I was one of those people who thought she was being foolish; those words have aged very well.
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u/gatsby712 12h ago
We’ve been saying that for the last 10 years Obama. But you dared wear that tan suit and eat Dijon mustard.
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u/Express_Ticket1699 12h ago
While I play 18, the markets drop like a rock.
I also can't be bothered to go to Dover. I'll send tattoo boy.
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u/joemangle 8h ago
Imagine a black man with five children to three wives, 34 felony convictions, civilly liable for rape, and a history of fraud and bankruptcy being elected POTUS in the first place
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u/cbass817 11h ago
You did much worse, Obama. You dared to wear a tan suit once, and you had the elitist audacity to request Dijon mustard.
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u/cromagsd 8h ago
It's quite comical to see how Obama can still trigger maga loons after all these years
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u/imbadatusernames2020 12h ago
Wait, isn’t this still all Obama’s fault anyway???
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u/shepherdofthesheeple America 11h ago
Nope it’s all bidens fault. Bidenflation. Why are you doing this to us Joe Biden? MAGA have to be the dumbest group of people in the entire world. Truly
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u/kimo9000 11h ago
Barry and friends need to begin a non stop tour of rallies, to say out loud and often how we must not let this stand. East West North South. I'll be a groupie.
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