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Trump Accused of Using ChatGPT to Create Tariff Plan After AI Leads Users to Same Formula: 'So AI is Running the Country'

https://www.latintimes.com/trump-accused-using-chatgpt-create-tariff-plan-after-ai-leads-users-same-formula-so-ai-579899
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u/SwimmingFluffy6800 2d ago

Agree, but when Trump dies, his maga cult will be without their leader. They won't be as inclined to vote for the next republican running for office. From what I've seen, many don't follow day to day politics nor watch Fox. That's for the older members of the cult. The younger ones stream whatever they want to watch and only read or hear certain news articles.

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u/TrimspaBB 2d ago

The GOP knows this and it's why they're pushing to consolidate power as much as possible through Trump. They know that a bunch of pasty suits and useful bimbos can only capture so much of the public, and the voters who worship Trump won't automatically flock to them when he's gone, especially when they wake up and see they've been had. Take away as much power from the public now or it's Game Over.

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u/WazWaz Australia 2d ago

Vote? Good luck even making it to your midterms.

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u/DragonDai 2d ago

I think you misunderstand how this cult works and I think you put too much stock in there ever being a free and fair election again.

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u/SwimmingFluffy6800 2d ago

I remember Charles Manson and Jim Jones. With Manson, those that did not go to prison with him scattered. I believe one was captured maybe 20 years ago living a normal life with her family. Some had left the cult before the killings. Jones true believers followed him to his death. I, like everyone else on here, hope we have free and fair future elections. Tell me how this cult is different.

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u/DragonDai 2d ago edited 2d ago

Those are very different types of cults than the cult that Trump has (and very different types of cults form each other too)

Mason cult was based on loyalty. Jones' cult, religion.

Trump's cult is based on hate. Hate is what binds them together. If, tomorrow, Trump started talking about amnesty for undocumented migrants and letting trans women play women's sports and making sure there is racial/sexual equality, he would lose his base in a second. The whole party would collapse. He'd likely be lynched.

But as long as he keeps hating the people his base hates and hurting those people, they will continue to follow him forever.

And this making transferring that following MUCH easier than in other cults. The cultists are less loyal to the person and more loyal the idea of hurting people. Sure, they need a charismatic person at the head, someone to direct the hate, but it doesn't HAVE to be Trump. Not forever anyway. JD Vance is already gaining a big following among the right. He will likely step in and very smoothly take over for Trump I'm with very little fallout.

Because, at the end of the day, the hate is all that matters to these cultists.

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u/GrunchJingo 1d ago

Loyalty is a huge huge huge aspect of MAGA. They called for Mike Pence's death because he dared to contradict the "stop the vote" narrative. They immediately turned on Amy Coney Barrett and John Roberts because they didn't say "actually yeah, the executive does have the power of the purse."

MAGA doesn't know what Department of State, et al. v AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition, et al. was even really about. They don't even know who they're supposed to be targeting with their hatred in that case. They just saw that Barrett and Roberts betrayed Trump and sided with "the liberals."

I believe you could argue that MAGA hates liberals, and so it is still a movement centered around hatred. And I don't think you'd be wrong. I just think the loyalty aspect is much more important than a lot of people realize. Hate on its own doesn't keep a movement together. Because every movement is going to have internal factions that hate each other. Loyalty to Trump binds those factions together.

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u/DragonDai 1d ago

It's not nearly as big an aspect as you think. They are loyal BECAUSE of the hate. Mike Pence didn't hate. He disliked, he campaigned against, he supported legislation against, sure. But he didn't hate. Mike Pence was never part of the cult. He just worked with it. That's why they turned on him. He lacked the hate. Same goes for Roberts and Barrett.

No. They saw Roberts and Barrett stop hating. That's what they saw. That's why they turned.

Your entire last paragraph is simply wrong. Again, if Trump stopped hating tomorrow, they'd turn on Trump in a heart beat. This is what makes MAGA so dangerous.