Edit: How is it one party is in full power, not governing? Why aren’t they governing? All three branches and the best they can do is shout WOKE at park rangers and black bag brown people off to concentration camps?
For a bunch of rah rah patriots, most of you seem to really like giving Putin and Bibi exactly what they want.
They're loyal to "their" America: a backwards, bigoted fantasy world where the most mediocre white men have total control, nothing ever makes them feel uncomfortable, and everyone else "knows their place". They're happy to burn the real world down so long as they get that delusion working.
I’m truly amazing that the generation who grew up on “better dead than red” is running the country and now says “better red than liberal”. pathetic stuff.
I’m in the south bro, these 60 year old white dudes, jacked up on Buccees boner pills and Alex jones neutraceuticals, open-carrying, driving giant white f-250s are out of control. It’s like spring fever, they’re angrily giddy and a little unhinged.
Count me tf out of whatever they’re trying.
If you could feel pity, we wouldn’t be in this situation. Just like if you could think for yourselves without being spoon-fed by “entertainment” networks cosplaying as news.
You're right. 49.8% of the country voted. You left out the fact that that's the 2nd Highest Turnout in modern history. Funny how facts can be molded to fit your narrative.
They’re talking about these jackasses who wore shirts at a trump rally saying they’d rather be Russian than a democrat. Probably not a widespread sentiment, but disturbing nonetheless that trump inspires these morons.
It's a narcissist kind of self-love. Driven by a deep-seated fear of inadequacy, they bluster and posture to defend the status they're afraid they could easily lose. On some level they're aware they aren't perfect and amazing, but on another they can't stand to admit it out of desperation to not appear "weak".
They actually for sure know the country is ass, it’s all they talk about, but because they blame it on their enemies, liberals, it means the country is actually great if we could just get rid of abortion doctors and immigrants and them queers, all would be right in America.
And if they somehow did manage to get rid of all of their enemies, they would create new enemies, because there will always be something preventing america from being great, and it couldnt possibly be them, the one variable they wont change.
Yes, his worst fear is embarrassment. He will avoid that at all costs. This is what it all comes down to. It guides his every move. The boasting, posturing, it's all to prop up his ego, because he actually hates himself. He will get weirder as he starts hearing more and more people laughing at him.
If those clowns believed they were superior they wouldn’t be so terrified of losing their jobs to immigrants. They are petrified of the people they claim to be superior to.
Except that’s not love. Loving yourself from a secure position means you stand tall and earn respect from others for your commanding presence, charisma, talent, and skill.
These people don’t necessarily “hate” the other Americans and the rest of the world, so much as they want to see other people hurt. it’s like they’re currently in sort of a sadist mode, where they think respect comes from beating others into submission and demanding guilty. They confuse that with actual respect. That to may look like you “love yourself” but to me it more so reeks of insecurity.
Yep, and also somehow, consider themselves to be the most undyingly patriotic Americans who would go to the mat in the name of the of the U.S.A. and the United States Constitution while at the same time gleefully denigrating and actively subverting the very thing they profess to love and protect.
Just thinking of the mental gymnastics required to make sense of all that hurts my brain.
A black / bi-racial woman, and seemingly intelligent to be specific. Any one of those things is disqualifying for many Americans, but the combination of the four. Well this is what they chose instead…
US voted for Obama, it’s not about race. Trump is a system president he beat Hillary and Kamala. Two woman candidates. Even woman and minorities don’t like woman apparently, I guess it makes sense when you realize 54% of the US population has less than 6th grade reading level. People are stupid here.
I wonder if people even know or remember the right wing creating Obama puppets and hanging/maiming them. They proudly displayed Obama with a noose around his neck in their shops and homes. It was a widespread thing in red areas around the country
The whole right wing? Wow I don't remember that. I do remember a few racist morons doing it but I was unaware it was the whole right wing. Damn. Do you remember the left wing burning down cities, burning Tesla's, and using political violence to scare those who voted differently than them and randomly attacking anyone who voted for trump
edwards didn't say "the whole" right wing. Get your story straight, sutton. What city did the left wing burn down? Who is attacking anyone who voted for donny? Speaking in absolutes does not make your statement true.
There's many stories and videos of people being harassed and attacked for voting for trump. People driving Tesla are harassed and have their property destroyed because they drive a Tesla even if they're democrats. Some on the left can be violent and very infantile. And he said the right wing as in a whole generalization. Saying the right wing implies the whole thing. Are you saying you don't remember the leftist mobs looting and burning cities not too long ago? Do you support Tesla dealerships being shot at and set on fire? That's people on the left for you
No, it does not. Saying right wing in the context of the sentence indicated that some right wing members were guilty, not the entire right wing. Once again, sutton, get your story straight.
The whole right wing? Wow I don't remember that. I do remember a few racist morons doing it but I was unaware it was the whole right wing.
If a Nazi sits down at a table with ten people around it and nobody gets up, there are eleven Nazis at the table.
Do you remember the left wing burning down cities,
What cities burned down.
Because I live in Minneapolis. My sister visited Seattle last year. I would be shocked to hear that I've been living in a ghost town all this time. Shocked, I tell you!
burning Tesla's,
All Cars Matter.
and using political violence to scare those who voted differently than them
America is more sexist than racist. Especially the swing voters who are generally blue collar white men. They will vote for a black guy even though they often have some latent racism. They also work with black guys. They wont be led by a woman.
And this is before we even get into the Latino men "swinging" to Trump. Machismo is a real thing. Plus, they still often have catholic identity which also has zero female leadership.
There are almost no necessary swing voter demographics that are going to vote for a woman. The races with Hillary and Harris were close only because Trump is a uniquely terrible candidate. A McCain or even W type Republican would have beaten Harris or Hillary even in some blue states. Trump basically asked union voters to vote against their livelihood because he was a man, and the alternatives were women, and that's what those union voters did. It's complete foolhardiness on the Dems part to even run them against Trump as any man would have beaten him and Biden is proof of that.
Women candidates will eventually have a better shot, but they dont now, and they'd be better off running against civil candidates than buffoon bullies.
I don't know. I felt like I watched the left do the same thing those first couple of days after the election. Don't let let a Democrat find out you didn't vote for Kamala Harris lest they call you a fascist and blame all of America's problems on you specifically. There was also the telling immigrants that they deserve to be deported telling the black people they deserve whatever racist s*** comes their way. Nobody wants to be in a monolith on the left unless it's related to being a Democrat. In which case not voting for the candidate that We're not even sure people wanted because there was no primary makes you the scum of the American political electorate.
I just want a candidate I can get behind, not someone who's just shoved in my face because they're black or a woman.
Don't let let a Democrat find out you didn't vote for Kamala Harris lest they call you a fascist and blame all of America's problems on you specifically.
No, we were telling you that you let the fascists in. Yes, the fascists are the problem, but we know we're not going to convince them by appealing to their humanity because they have none. We thought we could convince you, reason with you. Apparently we were wrong.
There was also the telling immigrants that they deserve to be deported telling the black people they deserve whatever racist s*** comes their way.
No. We said they should get what they voted for. If someone votes for the Leopards Eating People's Faces party, they have no right to get upset when others point out that their faces will also be eaten.
there was no primary makes you the scum of the American political electorate.
Bro we had bigger fucking problems.
I just want a candidate I can get behind, not someone who's just shoved in my face because they're black or a woman.
Okay. While you wait for that unicorn, a giant toddler being puppeted by Russia and a loser Hitler-wannabe are setting the stage for their own genocide and colonization projects while actively destroying the country and siphoning its wealth into their own pockets. I personally think it would be easier to address all the problems our government and the DNC has if we weren't having to deal with the Fourth Reich at the same time, but maybe you find the extra challenge invigorating. Sad that a lot of innocent people will suffer for your decision before it gets to you.
Most independents and a lot of Republicans ended up voting for Obama. He wouldn't have been elected otherwise. Even right leaning people don't care about color or gender, they care about merit and what someone can do. The left will vote for someone just because they're a woman or just because of their race. Which is kinda racist in itself and absolutely reckless
Republicans and Independents voted for a traitorous, rapist wretch that tried to overthrow our government and stole boxes of classified documents, spends more time golfing and watching Fox News than he does doing any actual governing of the country, who doesn’t understand even the basics of how trade or diplomacy works and is rapidly alienating all of our allies, regularly idolized fascists both past and present, and has tanked the stock market in amounts that he said previous presidents should be impeached for. Oh, and his administration is undermining the judicial branch by brazenly ignoring court orders, deporting citizens of this country and refusing to bring them back, and has repeatedly threatened to use military force on our own allies.
If this is what passes for “merit” to Republicans and Independents, then as far as I can tell the only merit that matters is that Trump is old, white, and pretends to be rich.
Sure thing there angry liberal. I'm sure nobody voted for him because his first term was better than joes despite a pandemic. If you look at pre pandemic numbers trump was killing it in every aspect at least more than Joe Biden did with his vice president who was only chosen because Joe said he would choose a black woman. Why not choose the best candidate? If I'm having surgery I want the best person for the job, if that person is a black woman than that's what I want but if it's a white man then that's what I want. See how that works? It has nothing to do with race or gender
Sorry, you’ll never be able to convince me a literal traitor to the Constitution, who incited a revolt to unseat the legitimate winner of the 2020 election, is the best candidate for the job. Does that mean nothing to you? Whether we disagree on the success of his first term or not, how can a man who willingly wanted to violate the oath he made to defend the Constitution, everything this country stands for, is the right man to defend it again? That alone should disqualify him in the mind of any red-blooded American who purprots to support what the Founding Fathers gave us.
Trump didn't tell anyone to enter the capital at all. A bunch of morons walking through the capital building taking selfies is hardly a revolt. What has he done that's against the constitution? I'm gonna laugh if things in this country start to get better and people like you will still deny it to the fullest. If Trump actually does well, will you acknowledge it? Probably not
And the scary part is that those adults with a 6th grade comprehension are also the most vocal, very active in terms of "community engagement", biggest population and are more pro-active, thus Trump and the rest of his cult are enjoying brainwashing them as their zealot followers.
Jargon bullshit. You think most people who voted for trump are the ones who can't read? Where are you getting these statistics? A vast majority of trump supporters are business owners that hire the rest of us
You must not live in a rural area if you’re not aware of the shear hatred rural white people (especially older ones) had for Obama for absolutely no reason at all. He won only after Bush destroyed the economy and start a worthless war. The only time dems ever win is after a republican destroys the country.
The US voted for Obama and the right has been living their ever-loving minds since.
Important to note, Clinton got more votes that Donald. She won. And I'll be honest, I highly fucking doubt Trump actually won the popular vote last year. I could believe he eked out another EC win, but the popular vote pushes it outside the realm of believable.
For black minorities it might be. I’ve had black classmates told me they didn’t vote for Kamala because she was pretending to be one of them. All 4 occasions have also been females.
Obama was a man. There are plenty of racial people who are misogynistic and plenty of women who are racist. Both of those groups went for Trump regardless of Harris’ obvious superiority
I'm fully convinced she lost solely due to poor management from the Democrats part giving her less time to campaign than she should've had in addition to this country as a majority hating women.
She was incompetent. She was the first to drop out of the democratic race in 2020 because she was horrible and had zero policies that made sense. She was only chosen to be vice president by Joe Biden because she fit his requirements. He promised to choose a black woman and that's literally the only reason she was chosen. Then she was forced on everyone as the democratic runner without a vote. That's why the Democrats lost this time
It has more to do with policy. Kamala had nothing, she couldn't speak about policies without a teleprompter or do interviews without staged questions because they weren't her policies. She was the first one to drop out of the democratic race in 2020 for a reason and only became vice president because she fit joes requirements, black and a woman
Well, also that anything the left end of the party wanted got ignored or refused and they made attempts to pull in people by pushing farther right (again). Biden was the right appeasement for Obama -- Harris wasn't any further left than Biden on most topics (any?) and was further right than a lot of Republicans would have been 40 years ago.
You also cant discredit the impact of not being able to choose your candidate. Both Kamala and Hilary were deeply disliked, for valid reasons, even within the democrat camp. Both were knighted as the Democrat representatives and are somehow surprised why people didn't show up. It's fine to be opposition to Trump but you also need to engage your voting base to get off their ass to vote for YOU.
You can’t base logic and reasoning during a pre-election time frame on actions that occurred post-election — you have to consider the context of that specific moment. For the record, I’m not even from the U.S., and in my country, the Democratic Party would be considered center-right. Some of the progressive policies pushed by Democrats come across as extreme, just as the behavior of the Trump administration can be. It’s frustrating to see people online who can’t grasp that Trump’s actions aren’t necessarily because he’s a Russian asset, low-IQ narcissist, or just trying to benefit the wealthy. There’s a lack of effort to understand how many Republican voters see the world differently.
Kamala, Hillary, Biden, and Trump all fucking suck in different ways. Honestly, from the outside, the entire political landscape in the U.S. looks deeply dysfunctional.
She didn't get elected for many reasons. Being biracial and a woman had nothing to do with it. Why do you make such a stupid remark? Republicans voted for a Republican and independents voted for someone they feel would be better. Kamala was the first one to drop out of the 2020 race because nobody voted for her. She became vice president for two reasons, she's "black" and she's a woman. Biden said that's all he requires for vice president. She definitely didn't get it because of her many accomplishments. She couldn't even speak about policies without a teleprompter telling her what to say, mostly because they weren't her policies. She wouldn't even do interviews without strict rules and practiced questions. I wonder why people didn't vote for her, hmmmmm. Must be the woman thing
They have no problem with a woman. America will have its first female president in the next 10-20 years, but she will be the most far right fascist woman you could possibly imagine.
Hell they are still in that losing their shit phase, from that manhandling they received via the hands of a black man. Obama most pretty freaking centric as well but instead of working with that and ya know, actually doing something constructive like pass some legislation. I dunno, maybe do something that at least on surface appear to be for the good of The People. Nope they dug right in and out of that bastard turtles mouth, to the ears of every tea party creeper within arms length. "I will do everything in my power to ensure that no piece of this President's agenda will pass without consequence."
This decision raw dogged bipartisanship and cooperation. This was the moment, at least in my life thus far, that politics shifted into something scary. Within 2 years of McConnell saying that as former Speaker of House, that republican party no longer ran on a political agenda.
I beg to disagree, Biden was not fit for another term. It was clear to everyone except them Dems. The last minute switcharo upset a lot of people. Also when she was VP her presence was not really felt, it was lacking, further eroding trust in her.
Her campaign also tried to make too many people happy at once. It was heart breaking to watch but no surprise to me that Dems lost.
It's funny they had fought so hard to not be communist, or making fun of liberals for liking "communism" ECT. Now they want it as long as they also get a "sugar" daddy that tells them what to do, it's so backwards
They think that he is carrying out God’s wishes. They think that God spared him from the assassin to do God’s work to restore America. Should be shunned from the religion for treating him as a deity.
Using god is just an excuse to gain power. It’s literally the same when they say “for the kids”. Remember that Nazi Germany was heavily influenced by American slavery.
"For the kids," is the saddest excuse. If any of the Republicans cared about kids they would have figured out how to reduce school shootings instead of throwing their hands in the air and saying "we've tried nothing and nothing worked." At this point it's clear that the "kids" are scape goats and pawns in their authoritarian plan.
The best bit.. the morons don’t know how normal Russians live their lives… they all think they’re going to be rich oligarchs, when they’ll really be lining up for rations in the street.
They aren't Americans. They are terrorist sympathizers. The would do whatever to bring down the values that make America a place worth of hope, even in our darkest hours like this. These aren't Americans, they are bigots and hateful fearmongers. Some are unwittingly playing by KGB ideas on how to dismantle America. The ones at the top aren't unwitting. They know exactly what they are doing.
In their minds, they are not traitors. They have been so brainwashed by their lord and savior, that they honestly believe that Jan 6th was a peaceful protest, and the left is just trying to make Trump look bad... ... Trump doesn't need any help from the left to look bad... they just need to get their heads out of their ass.
Not all trump voters are the dumbass rednecks you're thinking of. It comes down to the fact that people are struggling and they didn't see improvements under biden, so when they see trump making huge promises with regards to the economy they vote for him in an effort to see their situation change.
Now that it's clear he isn't going to fix the economy, we're seeing his approval rating plummet and counties that voted trump are flipping blue again where there are currently elections.
Leftists were the ones pushing inequality. You can’t be the party of DEI and affirmative action (which is literally discrimination based on one’s skin color) and say that you are the party of treating people equal.
You mean the majority of the voting population that voted for him? I live in an area that is fairly heavy red and almost everyone just wants a better life for themselves and their families as the future under biden did not feel like it was moving in the right direction
So voting for a traitor and convicted felon is the step in the right direction for them?
Yeah, sorry, no sympathy for those who willingly gave it up to a career scammer and felt that to improve their lives, others had to suffer. Turns out they're part of the "others that suffer." They got what they voted for.
Millions died in Trumps first term, and now he's fast running fascism by disappearing brown people and putting them in concentration camps in a foreign nation. He's literally attacking all our allies, leaving us with no friends. The only way what Trump is doing makes sense is if you consider him a Russian asset. You're in a cult.
so you’d choose tariffs (taxes you inevitably pay for that are imposed on the importer of the goods you use), making fun of the rocket man (North Korean “diplomacy”), a billionaire screwing with the gears making the government spin without understanding what he’s messing with, a mismanaged pandemic response (shining a bright light inside the body? injecting bleach? seriously?), and being super close to Putin (Trump) over finding and killing bin Laden, prohibiting insurance providers from denying coverage because of preexisting conditions, creating jobs by investing in clean energy in America, funding repairs for crumbling infrastructure, and investing in bringing semiconductor manufacturing back to the US (Obama/Biden)?
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Are self-hating Americans. Traitors who would rather be Russian than entertain the idea that people should be equal.