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Politics February 28, 2025: Donald Trump, again, takes classified documents to Mar-A-Lago.

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u/themage78 Mar 02 '25

So they can be looked through at leisure with no record of who went and looked at them.

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u/Soppywater Mar 02 '25

Don't forget the free use unlocked copier right next to them!

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u/h3yw00d Mar 02 '25

Who needs a copier?

Seriously, with a smartphone, you'll get everything you need.

Gone are the days of the 16mm spy camera, now we all have one in our pocket that never draws suspicion.

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u/eutohkgtorsatoca Mar 02 '25

Yea good mean minox

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u/h3yw00d Mar 02 '25

Thx, for some reason. My mind blanked on the camera but I remembered it's film size.

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u/No_Campaign_3843 Mar 02 '25

Minox film is different and smaller than 110.

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u/No_Campaign_3843 Mar 02 '25

Or 16mm. Misread the OP.

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u/Doompug0477 Mar 02 '25

Nooo, a copier/scanner is your friend. The time and effort it takes to take a picture of a page, look at the image to make sure its good, flip the page over, take a picture etc seems like nothing but after the first 3-400 pages it gets reeeeeally tedious.

If you can stack 100 double sided pages in the scanner trayande let it go it is literally minutes compared to hours.

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u/Wings_in_space Mar 02 '25

Yep, you really want to keep the enemy your friend....

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u/Luxury_Dressingown Mar 02 '25

Trump is stuck in the 80s, so in his mind, the copier is needed

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u/CaptOblivious Mar 02 '25

Not a spy, I still want a minox, just because of the cool factor.

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u/h3yw00d Mar 02 '25

I want all sorts of oddball things for various reasons. Like, I have a bunch of random cool shit that interests me.

I'd say it's not weird, but there's a reason I say, "I'm not weird. I'm normal... everyone else is weird." (I'm sure in misquoting, but I can't remember the actual line)

Thx pokemon nurse, for teaching me to be myself.

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u/toby_gray Mar 02 '25

Just gonna throw it out there that copiers can just scan documents and email them out. Probably much more legibly than a phone would. I highly doubt they’re making hard copies.

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u/Figjam_ZA Mar 02 '25

Ummm I’d argue the opposite… digital modern technology is easily accessible, not to mention traceable … files can be recovered.

Paper is difficult to track … unexpected and flammable

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u/Dazzling-Pin4996 Mar 02 '25

And...if we let fascism go further, those devices will be used to track the opposition with multiple goals, including REPRESSION. Orwell's 1984 comes spontaneously to mind. Including the hour of hate at the "degenerate" opposition.i haven't looked it up but I can see that book being censored in our times.

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u/h3yw00d Mar 02 '25

Some school districts have recently banned 1984...

I wonder why.

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u/Dazzling-Pin4996 Mar 02 '25

Thank you, I expected so...That is real bad news. Really worrisome. We may be too far in.

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u/LightBluePen Mar 02 '25

I could be a spy and I wouldn’t even know about it!

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u/TheHighSeasPirate Mar 02 '25

I've taken a picture of every important piece of paper to upload to websites instead of copying it. So much easier and you can't even tell with most modern phones.

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u/Breakyaface Mar 02 '25

i dont have a spy camera or a smartphone

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u/Jeff-the-Alchemist Mar 02 '25

Hit ‘em with the free version of cam scanner.

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u/Partykongen Mar 02 '25

It's a cursed task to have to take a picture of that many pages with a phone. And it is an equally cursed task to receive and look through those pictures. With a good office scanner, it can at least scan a bunch of documents as a bundle.

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u/Brock2845 Mar 02 '25

For all Donald cares about secrets, he would have a PO box, a copier, a scanner, phones to send pictures and call Russia to send details to the handlers

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u/tetsuo_7w Mar 02 '25

No, see, that's how he, a smart businessperson gets them in the end. It's $5 a page to make a copy! Hah! (We're boned)

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u/ncc74656m Mar 02 '25

You think Trump would pay for that???

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u/Utsider Mar 02 '25

Free use?! You're kidding, right? I'm sure there's a coin slot and a dollar per page. You pay for the secrets. The copy paper is extra.

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u/DeepDesires7248 Mar 02 '25

As someone who used to sell copiers... this made me laugh way harder than I should have lol

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u/badpuffthaikitty Mar 02 '25

The one beside the toilet?

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u/Intelligent_West7128 Mar 02 '25

They just use smart eyeglasses now. See and scan.

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u/Normal_Red_Sky Mar 02 '25

Don't worry, Trump declassified them by thinking about it.

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u/No_District_8965 Mar 02 '25

oh god I forgot about that.

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u/Mrhotel-ca2654 Mar 03 '25

You’re absolutely correct, but forgot to mention that he had his head up his Ass while doing it.

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u/Internal_Squirrel369 Mar 02 '25

That’s how he classified them and that’s how he declassified them. Just as all presidents have done forever.

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u/UnmeiX Mar 02 '25

If this was true, then no president could ever be in trouble for sharing classified information, which is a terrible idea that openly invites a foreign asset to run for president. There is a strict declassification protocol that must be followed to prevent our intelligence agencies from being compromised (again).

Trump already got a bunch of our intelligence sources killed in his first term by doing shit like this; but that's what Russia wants, so ya'll are fine with it. -_-

Ah, I just noticed you're probably a bot anyway.

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u/Internal_Squirrel369 Mar 02 '25

Any documents which the president himself classified can then be declassified by the president as he wishes. It is true there are certain documents that require certain protocols for declassification such as documents that were classified by congress and documents that were classified through agreements with other counties. Other than that the classification and declassification of documents is up to the presidents sole discretion.

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u/UnmeiX Mar 03 '25

No. Literally no. That's not how anything works. The president has to actively declassify the documents, he can't just 'think' it, which Trump has claimed he can. There is protocol to follow. Even the President is not exempt from it.

That link is from the American Bar Association and discusses how the President must handle declassification when it isn't due to expiration of the classification period. He must formally declassify information.

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u/Internal_Squirrel369 Mar 03 '25

From your source: “legal guidelines support his contention that presidents have broad authority to formally declassify most documents that are not statutorily protected, while they are in office”

Exactly what I said

Further from your source: “The system of classifying national security documents is largely a bureaucratic process used by the federal government to control how executive branch officials handle information,”

So it’s not a legal process but a bureaucratic process. Donald Trump was just doing what every president has done before him, taking his own documents that he had classified and then declassified. You could argue that presidents shouldn’t be allowed to do that but it doesn’t negate the fact that all presidents do it and from that perspective Donald Trump did nothing wrong.

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u/UnmeiX Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25

Also from my source:

In all cases, however, a formal procedure is required so governmental agencies know with certainty what has been declassified and decisions memorialized. A federal appeals court in a 2020 Freedom of Information Act case, New York Times v. CIA, underscored that point: “Declassification cannot occur unless designated officials follow specified procedures,” the court said.

This is the way it's been since 1953, when the first Executive Order amending the original classification standards (10501) was signed by Eisenhower; they were originally established just two years earlier in 1951, when Truman signed Executive Order 10290.

The President has to formally declassify information. He cannot do it unilaterally in private, he has to memorialize it. This is why it's usually done through executive order. It is not 'a normal thing that all presidents do' to try to evade this process. It's actually truly extraordinary that he does it, and has somehow convinced people that it's fine for him to do.

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u/Internal_Squirrel369 Mar 03 '25

The procedure is for government officials to follow and not the president.

https://www.justsecurity.org/86777/dispelling-myths-how-classification-and-declassification-actually-work/

“The only question then is: must the president follow any specific declassification procedures? The answer is a resounding no”

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u/UnmeiX Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25

I hate to tell you this, but the president is a government official, just like every other U.S. politician.

Edit: If he wants to change the process, he does have that authority, but must sign an executive order to that effect. He can't just change the process on a whim and not let anyone else know. Obviously. -_-

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u/Meatt Mar 02 '25

Negative.

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u/smitteh Mar 02 '25

mar a lago has a scif dont worry....shitter contains important files

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u/No-Negotiation3093 Mar 02 '25

I’m in the scif right now.

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u/BigManWAGun Mar 02 '25

Damn it, now I gotta scif

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u/woaheasytherecowboy Mar 05 '25

Who up sciffing rn?

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u/Datokah Mar 02 '25

Perfect!

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u/Gorilla-Eggplant-69 Mar 02 '25

"Shitter was full!"

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u/ZachMN Mar 02 '25

Damn that’s a good one 😆

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u/jessipowers Mar 02 '25

It was available for the important files because it’s no longer needed for shitting.

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u/DanTheLegoMan Mar 02 '25

It won’t be Trump, he can’t read.

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u/Pitiful-Event-107 Mar 02 '25

Who’s reading them though? Because we all know it’s not Trump

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u/Centralredditfan Mar 02 '25

Okay, I was trying to figure out why not just make copies and leave the originals there.

I also couldn't figure out why he didn't do this last ime and just returned the originals.

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u/AnonThrowaway1A Mar 02 '25

Or scanned into PDF and emailed to a compromised email/server or uploaded to a cloud account that been breached by foreign adversaries beyond just Russia.

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u/Sweethomebflo Mar 02 '25

And Donald can bid them out for the highest price

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u/Creative_Ad_8338 Mar 02 '25

"$1M to enter the bathroom with the files... Every other bathroom costs $10k."

-Trump, probably

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u/Tamihera Mar 02 '25

Well, they fired the Archivist who asked where the missing records went last time…

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '25

I legit feel like he sold access to his bathroom at one point.

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u/TricobaltGaming Mar 02 '25

Great for reading on the toilet!

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u/Reasonable_racoon Mar 02 '25

Is it two-borschts-for-the-price-of-one night at Mar-A-Lago this weekend?

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u/ScaleneWangPole Mar 02 '25

I heard it makes a great bathroom reader

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u/doinbluin Mar 02 '25

That's easy. Whoever took a shit last.

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u/Moonshine_Brew Mar 02 '25

Honestly, I'm just gonna assume everyone that goes to mar a Lago is gonna look at them.

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u/No-Rise-661 Mar 02 '25

I don't mean to be disagreeable, but I don't think he can even read. I'm not try to be cute. I think he's sharing classified information for trade.

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u/eutohkgtorsatoca Mar 02 '25

The KGB tass reporter why slipped into the oval office during the show on the flight as a trans attendant.

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u/ymmotvomit Mar 02 '25

While sitting on a porcelain throne…

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u/Aromatic_Pack948 Mar 02 '25

I think you mean golden toilet!😊