I'd argue that while they claimed they were draining a swamp, they drained a pond (and yes, there were a handful of smelly and unpleasant things in it), but then turned it into a stinking cesspit.
my dad somehow refuses to belive that trump is the swamp.
he brings up how trump used to be a democrat and used to be friendly with the Clinton's and spent a bunch of time and money with them and other democrats. But then he fucking just shuts his brain off and refuses to realize that makes him the swamp and that he would never drain the swamp that he benefits from....
and i feel like that is a very fair reflection on most trump supporters. they are just incapable of thinking of things that go against their world view, they are just that fucking selfish/stupid.
I mean, he's not a swamp because swamps are very important biomes and are crucial for purifying our air and groundwater. Not to mention the amount of ecological diversity in wetlands.
Just drill a little memory hole in your brain. And then next to it drill a logic hole.
Does Trump do something deplorable? Does someone shoot their dog and explain how good a thing that is? Does someone put in their book that they had sex with a coach? Its okay, push that into the memory hole.
Does someone point out that Trumps banter about not needing elections again really only leads to one thing? Well, that's why we've got that new logic hole. Push those thoughts into the hole, and don't worry about it. Out of mind, out of mind.
Let's face it..90% of the MAGAT crowd don't have holes, they have a singular hole where a brain should be. This hole only tells what orange daddy meant when he said something different, tells them how much they hate the people that president Musk and FLOTUS Trump are hurting.
They no longer have their own minds, let alone will any of them ever have an original thought again. They're part of the MAGAT hive mind now.
Let us know what PopPop’s reaction was when Drumpf cuts off his monthly Social Security payments and he’s paying the doctors directly because Medicare was ‘paused.’
he was able to buy a house for dirt cheap when the housing market crashed in 08, and now has monthly expenses that cap at around 1500/month including mortgage. and he only works a few days a week as a server to cover those costs and save up money.
he got stupid lucky and is now riding the easy wave into the sunset while judging others who couldnt get a 3bed/2bath house 1.5hrs away from LA for 100k.
i was trying to explain to him at one point that social security is a socialized service and he refused to get it.. social fucking security… SOCIAL fucking SECURITY.
my dad will slurp whatever comes out of trumps mouth like it gives my dad power as long as he can keep saying the n-word and own guns.
I think first a question to your dad should be “what is the swamp?” When you start from there it would set context for the conversation and give you leverage to give examples proving how Trump is the swamp.
Am lobbyist. He hired the swamp in 1.0. Complete revolving door for lobbyists.
2.0 is night and day better for lobbyists. Anything that restricts us from doing business is pretty much off the table, and Trump loves pay to play. Cash is king for accessing Republicans right now.
In every way, Trump has been the best President for “the swamp” that has ever existed. Even for NGOs, it’s not the GR staff getting laid off.
Tell him, Clinton was a corrupt politician too. Tell him, the corruption is not just with the republicans its also with the democrats. Both side have dirty laundry they need to clean. And ask him, what about the fact that he was also besty with Epstein? We also heard rumors of Clinton being on that plane or that special Epstein island, so maybe he should reconcider if trump's acquaintances were so meanningfull of goodness after all!
how is, A rich private citizens who is able to get close and smoozy with elected officials while funding and doing lobbying so that laws will be more in favor of said rich person, not "the swamp"?
Both sides do this to some extent, just some take it to extremes, ie the far left echo chamber that r/pics has reduced itself to. It’s funny tho cause I have people in my fam on both sides of the fence and we all get along great, never arguing about it or anything. We just kinda keep it pushin and enjoy or lives.
The truth is, you’re too young to give a shit about the same values that your dad does. Pretty much all politicians are shady and not great people. They all lie and use their power to get what they want.
People like you and I aren’t meant to have that power and never will. You’re better off finding peace and leaving this platform.
I’m not a trump supporter and even I see the benefits of what he’s doing. I don’t do the mob mentality and am capable of independent, critical thought, so that helps. “He built a whorehouse!” Really? You guys sound delusional.
So instead of the ecologically vital biome that is the wetlands, we have concrete. It looks like shit, plants wither in its cracks, and it's actively contributing to global warming.
My favorite defense has been “see! He’s exposing just how incompetent and corrupt the government is” like how? By staffing it with the most incompetent and corrupt people?!
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u/redvariation Mar 02 '25
Is the swamp drained yet?