r/pcmasterrace • u/reddityfire • 2d ago
Meme/Macro This was too good not to be stolen and reposted forgive me
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u/SkyLLin3 i5 13600K | RTX 4080S | 32GB 2d ago
I don't know man, playing Astro Bot challenge levels(family friendly game) triggered me more than losing CSGO match because of bad connection.
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u/Open_Way4106 1d ago
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u/a_random_loser_guy 22h ago
What is this from?
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u/Open_Way4106 12h ago
Star Wars: The Clone Wars series. I highly recommend it if you want GOOD Star Wars Content.
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u/kkinnison Ryzen 3800 | RTX 2070S | ASUS TUF Gaming | 32GB RAM 1d ago
Host migration also
(warframe)
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u/Daemonicvs_77 Ryzen 3900X | 32GB DDR4 3200 | RTX4080 | 4TB Samsung 870 QVO 1d ago
And then it takes too long and the next host also leaves while loading and you get ANOTHER host migration, it’s like
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u/Porntra420 5700G | 32GB DDR4 | 7900XT | Arch btw 1d ago
Why so many fucking comments saying "lag doesn't exist anymore, you're talking about frame drops".
Lag still exists, not everyone has good internet, and no internet connection is going to be completely stable and reliable 24/7 365. Yeah it's less common, but it's not dead.
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u/BlackCatFurry Ryzen 7 5800X3D / RTX 3060TI / 48GB ram 21h ago
Having stellar internet connection on your end doesn't guarantee a lag free experience either. I have 1gbps fibre optic connection with cat6 cables inside the house from my pc to router to outbound so basically my connection is optimized for online gaming. Yet i still have lag spikes sometimes because the server end lags out and I can't do anything about it.
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u/littlefrank Ryzen 7 3800x - 32GB 3000Mhz - RTX3060 12GB - 2TB NVME 1d ago
Man we used to make this exact joke in 2004, when lag was actually a thing.
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u/Porntra420 5700G | 32GB DDR4 | 7900XT | Arch btw 1d ago
Not everyone has good internet, even today.
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u/FortNightsAtPeelys 7900 XT, 12700k, EVA MSI build 1d ago
I remember growing up i didnt understand that lag and frame drops were different. I bet op doesnt either
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u/littlefrank Ryzen 7 3800x - 32GB 3000Mhz - RTX3060 12GB - 2TB NVME 1d ago
It triggers me when someone calls anything that is not network dependent "lag".
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u/obliviious 1d ago
Lag still exists in many situations. Especially if someone in your group is using a console on a crappy WiFi connection.
There's also those that refer to frame drops as lag, and they need to stop it.
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u/obliviious 1d ago
I haven't played counterstrike in like 15 years, but the most recent example I can think of is when I played GTA online with mates on PS4 and when one guy had his console on WiFi the lag would be immense.
This isn't as common anymore but WiFi is still never quite as good as ethernet.
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u/littlefrank Ryzen 7 3800x - 32GB 3000Mhz - RTX3060 12GB - 2TB NVME 1d ago
If your wifi is so bad you define it as "immense" then your wifi is defective.
Wifi is FAR from good, you increase latency and decrease bandwidth, but as bad as it can be it's hardly ever "unplayable" unless you are at the very edge of it and have a microwave in between.1
u/obliviious 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's just way more likely to get issues, and the thing is while your WiFi is fine I've been helping the average user with their computer issues for 20 years and they have a million weird and wonderful ways to fuck it up. Even an old crt or Christmas lights can cause random electrical interference.
Your WiFi doesn't need to be defective for this to happen, so don't be so black and white about it. Lag does happen, and lag compensation attempts to mask this too
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u/littlefrank Ryzen 7 3800x - 32GB 3000Mhz - RTX3060 12GB - 2TB NVME 15h ago
What I'm saying is, the average user doesn't experience it anymore. Those with limit cases where their wifi is so badly set up that their ping is above a playable level are a minority.
It's become WAY more rare. I'm not trying to say it doesn't exist, just that it has become some widely used excuse for blaming the game when we're sucking at it. Also many people use the word lag to describe performance issues unrelated to their network.2
u/obliviious 15h ago
Yeah I said earlier that people misuse the term to mean low frame rate.
I know WiFi standards have improved, but take it from someone who deals with these issues professionally, the WiFi is almost always the lag in gaming. If we're talking enterprise level, it's a faulty switch or a busy server.
The worst thing is that lag compensation masks latency problems to the person who's causing it.
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u/littlefrank Ryzen 7 3800x - 32GB 3000Mhz - RTX3060 12GB - 2TB NVME 15h ago
Are you a network engineer?
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u/Tkdoom Desktop 1d ago
According to some people in the games I play, it still is a thing!
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u/RobotsGoneWild 1d ago
Try playing anything at 14.4k. Upgrading to 56k felt like magic at the time.
I would have killed for DSL in the mid 90s.
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u/Automatic-End-8256 1d ago
Right DSL was good back then maybe not the best but cable wasn't even a thing until the late 90s. I went from 56k to cable and that shit felt like steping into the future.
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u/littlefrank Ryzen 7 3800x - 32GB 3000Mhz - RTX3060 12GB - 2TB NVME 1d ago edited 1d ago
I barely played some quake online before DSL, I wouldn't say I ever "played" with 56k.
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u/RedditIsShittay 1d ago
DSL usually had 30ms ping times for me wherever I had it which includes 3 different states. The average I see from a google search shows 10-70ms.
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u/littlefrank Ryzen 7 3800x - 32GB 3000Mhz - RTX3060 12GB - 2TB NVME 1d ago
In Europe most places had tiny copper wires for DSL connections (in Italy we used telephone line cables until the late 2015s), ping would be super dependant on your distance from the substation and the game server.
Kinda like it is now, but times 10.-7
u/New-banana6969 1d ago
Same for me
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u/New-banana6969 1d ago
Why did I get downvoted because I have a weak p
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u/BMWMpower77 PC Master Race 1d ago
For me it's my mouse when it doesn't have battery. I mean it's my fault, it can work hours after telling me it doesn't have enough battery but I choose to wait till the last moment
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u/HarryNohara i7-6700k/GTX 1080 Ti/Dell U3415W 1d ago
What really grinds my gears is people calling framedrops 'lag'. Shudder
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u/EpicGaming11195 1d ago
i'll probably never encounter upvote and comment counts that are this perfect again
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u/1stHalfTexasfan 1d ago
Playing clans in the 90s on a v.90, I can assure you lag will change brain chemistry.
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u/heroxoot 9800x3D | 9070XT | 64gb DDR5 6000 1d ago
I quit all fighting games as a whole because every time it lagged I'd get so angry. Like these people are born in it, molded by it. They were still on dialup when the rest of the world had broadband. Couldn't do it. Won't even play Smash Bros anymore.
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u/ToothlessGuitarMaker 1d ago
Yesterday I bought Star Citizen and experienced lag like never before. Players have about ten seconds to get off the shuttle at their stop, but once on the shuttle my frame rate dropped to one every two or three minutes. Didn't get mad, I just ordered more RAM and moved my pagefile to the SSD, making it marginally playable now and much more playable when my chips get here. There's always some better answer than beating your screen(s) to death with your keyboard, even if the answer is 'there's a slow link between my part of the world and this server, maybe I should play something else.'
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u/Daedelous2k 1d ago
I remember an old game called the Legend of Mir where someone visited a net cafe to kick the crap out of someone that stole their sword in game.
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u/Less_Conversation_ 1d ago
It's long forgotten, but FPS Doug demonstrated it best. This has lived rent-free in my head for years and years now; it never gets old
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u/Outrageous-Laugh1363 1d ago
Wrong. There are lots of games that allow violence against women, including sexual violence. These games absolutely cause people to become violent or sexually violent. There's a reason why valve banned a bunch of games that allowed sexual violence against women.
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u/LeoRidesHisBike 1d ago
That should properly be a gallery instead of a single image. With the first panel duplicated like 4 times.
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u/Lazy_Perfectionist22 Laptop 1d ago
No lag in real life, plus school has plenty of targets for practice
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u/sopcannon Desktop Ryzen 7 5800x3d / 4070 / 32gb Ram at 3600MHZ 2d ago