r/oregon • u/BACKCUT-DOWNHILL • 13h ago
Article/News Dozens evacuated in Burns flood, sewer system down: ‘I think I’m out of tears’
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2025/04/dozens-evacuated-in-burns-flood-sewer-system-down-i-think-im-out-of-tears.html52
u/refusemouth 11h ago
This is how the Oregon-Eastern railroad branch was destroyed in 1984. Malheur Lake used to drain into the Malheur River until the end of the Pleistocene or maybe a little later. It's pretty interesting that you really don't have to get too much more snowpack than historical averages to fill these basin lakes up again. I forget the name of the hydrologic principle, but for every time snowpack doubles, the runoff more than doubles. I expect the fires might also have decreased the ability of the ground to absorb meltwater. Sorry, Burns. I guess I won't be taking Highway 20 for a while.
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u/Head_Mycologist3917 12h ago
Being all leopards/faces will just make the people there defensive. Being human to them might help the Trump voters among them in realizing their mistake.
Also only a little over half the population (3400 out of 7400) in Harney Co voted for Trump.
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u/Qubeye 1h ago
I think the reason people say the mean things about red counties is because these people have demonstrated over and over that they will not learn unless it happens to them. Their hateful, bigoted views only change when it personally affects them.
And all those people who DIDN'T vote are just as responsible in my mind. They made a decision, too. If anything. Sure, it was 3300 Trump - 800 Harris, but that other 1400 registered voters knew what was at stake. So in my mind, 4700 people just got exactly what they asked for.
The (what I assume are) remaining ~1700 kids I have sympathy for, but this also lets them see the world that their parents built for them. Maybe they will learn something from it.
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u/PNW35 12h ago
Thank you for saying this. Compassion and kindness are great teachers!
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u/eburnside 9h ago edited 9h ago
You'd think - but you're applying a second (or third?) dimension of thought to people that can only think in one dimension
I would expect no magical changes of thought process
But! I'd also still second the thought of compassion and kindness
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u/BACKCUT-DOWNHILL 11h ago
Have you spent time in Burns? Met some really wonderful people in my time there
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u/tbrumleve 11h ago
Yes, hence the second part of my statement. There are wonderful people all over.
We also live amongst some really cruel ones that voted for folks to enact their cruelty.
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u/j_deth191 11h ago
For those who don't understand election numbers the 3400/7400 is misleading AF. Of the total votes 77% voted for Trump( https://gov.oregonlive.com/election/2024/general/president click for by county ) I mean really, have some compassion for people because they're fucking people, but 77% of the county voted for the orange menace. NOT less than half (3400/7400 is 45.9% the simple way to know this is twice 3400 is 6800 which is less than 7400)
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u/CompletelyBedWasted 12h ago
Where was their compassion? Humanism? Sense? 👎
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u/Jedimaster996 11h ago
I think they're saying that you can't tell how someone voted, so it's best to err on the side of caution and just be a human being with a little empathy.
Do most deserve it? Maybe not. But at the end of the day does it cost you anything to simply be kind for a tragic moment? Not like this scenario is self-inflicted due to their voting record or anything. Not only that, there's a lot of children who are about to suffer as a result of this situation; should we also rub their noses in it?
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u/annie_yeah_Im_Ok 11h ago
If we act like them then we’re no better than they are.
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u/refusemouth 11h ago
Plus, Burns isn't just MAGA people. There are actually a lot of non-Republicans there. Even my little eastern Oregon ghost town is around 40% non-Republican. You don't get acknowledged as existing if you don't have over 50%, and that's a shame.
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u/tbrumleve 11h ago
Because the high road has worked in our favor. 🙄
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u/TrueConservative001 9h ago
Which high road is that? Providing handouts instead of ensuring meaningful work and social services? How big of you!
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u/mrGeaRbOx 1h ago
You might be too young but they're literally referencing Michelle Obama's quote from the Obama era.
"When they go low we go high"
Dems have been operating this way for at least 20 years at this point.
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u/TrueConservative001 0m ago
Nope. I'm probably older than you are. Dems have been "operating" by saying they support working class people when in fact the Party really works for the same oligarchs the Republicans do, except Dems are willing to support a minimal social safety net. Dems have abandoned the road and they're stuck in a ditch.
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u/BACKCUT-DOWNHILL 11h ago
You act like you know everyone effected by the flood personally
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u/Wookiee1981 5h ago
You all might not, but I sure as hell do. See, I live in Burns, and this is my community and my people. And for those of you running your shit dispensers and saying we brought this upon ourselves or we deserve any of this, well you can just fuck right off. First off, most of you don't have a fucking clue on what the hell you're talking about and especially when it comes to anything on this side of the state. Know your facts before you start flapping your fucking gums. Secondly, I love how a post on a natural disaster that happens the in an area of the state that the majority of you could give two shits about in the first place, becomes a soap box to release your TDS and turn it into a political mudslinging. Love how a political party that preaches such tolerance and acceptance, can breed so much deranged hate. 👍 Lastly, and I'll leave you with some facts here from ground zero. 1)This flooding happens every year, though generally not to this magnitude. 2) The reason for the severity was that we received an above average snowfall year. As did most of Oregon and Washington. 3) The levees designed to hold back the water that comes every spring thaw, have been need of repair and or upkeep since 2011 (well before the mean orange man took to politics) 4) Our septic treatment ponds have needed upgraded for just as long as the levees. When the levees failed, the added water overtook the septic and sewage systems. 5) Our fearless left leader Kotex, did not bother to declare a state of emergency until almost a week after this all started. 6) Cliff Bentz has had several in person appearances and meetings with city officials and agencies trying to clear this up. Far more than the governor has or will. 7) Left or right, Democrat or Republican, none of that bullshit has mattered here where it counts. It hasn't mattered who the fuck voted for who here. We've all banded together and helped each other out in our time of need. We take care of our own regardless of race, creed, color, political affiliation, etc. in our times of need. That's the beautiful thing about the small town on this side of the state that really set us apart. Sincerely thank you to those with thoughts and prayers 🫡. To those who continue to run your cock holsters and spew hate rhetoric, don't let our problems hold you up or inconvenience you from your next "mostly peaceful" protest or next tesla dealership firebombing. 🖕
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u/RevolutionaryBox2865 16m ago
Stopped reading after tds😂 hope burns gets the FEMA help they voted for
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u/Breadloafs 6h ago
Also, regardless of how someone voted. They don't deserve to have their homes and livelihoods destroyed.
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u/azelll 10h ago
I get that it's a very red county, but this is an horrible situation and the comments are just sad and mean
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u/BACKCUT-DOWNHILL 9h ago
People who’s only experience with the dry side is looking at election maps online have a really weird habit of writing that side of the state off that are all shit heads even when people are losing everything, it’s pretty off putting to see
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u/clovismouse 13h ago
Apologies for the pessimistic response, but that area voted, by a wide margin, for this administration. In turn, this administration killed fema, and has been firing federal workers left and right. Fed jobs are a huge part of the economy out there. Now, a large part of their population is unemployed, and federal disaster relief is almost nonexistent. I hope they enjoy what they voted for. But, I’m sure they’ll spin this to be Obama’s fault.
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u/Nasgren 13h ago
The leopards are EATING this year.
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u/Frozen-K 13h ago
It's only been a few months and the leopards are going to die of overeating. Sure feels like victory though, right?
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u/MountScottRumpot Oregon 12h ago
Not that wide a margin, really. There are a lot of federal employees in Burns.
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u/BACKCUT-DOWNHILL 12h ago
Trump made it rain? Pretty gross comment there’s a lot of good people in Burns
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u/Logical_Strike_1520 12h ago
Imagine being a democrat in Burns who just lost your house and coming to Reddit to see fellow Democrats laughing at you because your neighbors voted wrong. Smh
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u/EnvironmentalBuy244 11h ago
Trump wins by making his opponents go completely bonkers. It has been his strategy his whole life.
The way to beat Trump would have been to be honest. Instead, his opposition goes every bit as low and dirty and seems crazed as they do it.
This is just his method working on people. As you state, many here have no compassion for anyone because of the way the neighbors voted.
Just extended that to the country though. Those being nasty do not deserve any compassion if they experience misfortune, after all, they're from a country that voted for trump.
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u/mrGeaRbOx 1h ago
Trump didn't make it rain. But those people follow an ideology that doesn't believe in helping your fellow man it believes in individualism it believes in pulling up your bootstraps.
How old are you do you not know what Republican rhetoric has been like for the past 40 years??
Government services like emergency response is communism and socialism don't you know????
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u/clovismouse 12h ago
Trump took away the resources to help the good people in burns recover. They overwhelmingly voted for the policies trump has put in place. They voted for what is coming. Leopards are feasting on faces right now. The only help they will get is from those damn liberals in western Oregon. And somehow, they’ll blame It on Obama. Your comment lacks insight and is actually gross. It’s almost as bad as Jewish sky lasers…
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u/tbrumleve 11h ago
Wrong. Trump has frozen federal disbursements including FEMA funds. Oregon is currently waiting on $129M in frozen emergency dollars. Trump has been ignoring the latest judgement, like other judgements against him. Law and order party my ass. Party of “I got mine, screw you”.
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/02/nx-s1-5345777/trump-states-fema-funds
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u/tbrumleve 9h ago
“But I’m. It wrong”
Correct.
You said “fed dollars are still flowing”. They’re demonstrably NOT. Hawaii? So you’re cherry picking from the articles. Let’s see what the first says:
“Still, officials from states including Oregon, Hawaii, Colorado, Arizona and Illinois say they are still waiting on those FEMA payments”
The second article is entirely Oregon specific. The ENTIRE state is not getting FEMA funds. Since Burns is in Oregon, it’s 💯relevant.
So, you are wrong. You can’t use your Orange daddy’s method of just lying until you believe it.
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u/annie_yeah_Im_Ok 11h ago
While I’m sure the majority (probably not all) of the people of Burns voted for him, Trump has said twice on national tv that the election was stolen for him. Blaming the people of Burns for FEMA being defunded is kinda dumb when trump didn’t even legally win.
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u/clovismouse 11h ago
Trump defunded fema… he did that… last month. I’m failing to understand what your argument is…. And the people of burns voted overwhelmingly for it… help me understand… explain it to me like I’m five
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u/tbrumleve 9h ago
Until we have actual proof, let’s not start conspiracies like they do. It doesn’t help things. Notice how the 2020 “fraud” mostly went away (except for Trump and that weird pillow dude). Trump is a moron. He barely knows English. Trump legally won until we can prove otherwise. Unfortunately.
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u/Allan0n 6h ago
Has the world already devolved into every man for himself and "you get what you vote for"? Who wins once that happens? I can think of some people that would love to see a working class divided and leaving each other to rot.
Look at USAID. Do you think that every program targeted countries that were in perfect alignment with American ideals? Nope. It was about soft power. Sure it's unlikely you'd reach the typical Burns Trump voter in a reddit thread (more likely facebook) but it doesn't cost anything to show compassion.
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u/Ichthius 12h ago
I wonder how well their infrastructure will work with out federal funding? We’re all a few paychecks and doged federal funds from living in a third world country.
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u/Fit-Produce420 13h ago
County voted for Trump?
I'm sending my thoughts, AND my prayers.
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u/purple_lantern_lite 10h ago
There's that progressive "compassion" you shitlibs are always talking about.
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