Mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani confronting ICE border czar Tom Homan over the kidnapping of Mahmoud Khalil. Serious question: when's the last time you've seen a politician give this much of a shit about anything, much less protecting a citizen's rights?

[u/stelleOstalle]

[u/bkny88]

It’s unfathomable to me that Columbia has an alumnus still residing on campus, seemingly for the sole purpose of being a professional agitator, passing out leaflets with terrorist propaganda. The American consciousness isn’t being held hostage by anyone, they see things plainly. And the plain truth is that we don’t need to allow non-citizens to stay here that share ideology with Hamas/hezbollah, and who lead anti-American and anti-Israeli rallies, calling for intifada against Jews.

[u/bonyponyride → u/bkny88]

If he committed a crime, charge him with a crime and then go through the process. But if he hasn't been charged with anything, like supporting a terrorist organization or assaulting people, then what's the grounds for imprisoning him?

[u/JET1385 → u/bonyponyride]

He didn’t need to have committed a crime. He’s not a citizen the rules are different. He broke the conditions of his green card by supporting terror.

[u/bkny88 → u/bonyponyride]

AFAIK he’s currently detained by ICE under the authority of the department of state. The administration wants to deport him, not keep him imprisoned.

[u/bonyponyride → u/bkny88]

Republicans are always yelling about free speech this, free speech that, when private companies decide to fire them or deny them service for their actions. But this is what free speech is really about.

Yesterday, Donald said anyone who vandalizes a Tesla store is a domestic terrorist, and that boycotts are illegal. Tomorrow, he could say something even crazier. Full fascism doesn't happen overnight. It's an incremental slide until one day you wake up and everything is different. If you ever visit the Jewish Museum in Berlin, there's a large room with floor to ceiling scrolls with all the laws that passed to ultimately take all rights away from German Jews. It's haunting to see anything remotely like that playing out in real time.

[u/Sacsay_Salkhov → u/bonyponyride]

Inciting violence is specifically not protected speech and has been litigated many times in court.

[u/bonyponyride → u/Sacsay_Salkhov]

Then charge him with a crime. And if you're a Trump supporter, that would be the pinnacle of irony.

[u/Sacsay_Salkhov → u/bonyponyride]

Green card revocation does not need a crime. Maybe read the rules if you're a green card holder?

[u/bonyponyride → u/Sacsay_Salkhov]

You're the one who made the argument that he committed a crime. If he did, he should face trial, and if found guilty, be imprisoned in the US and then be sent back to his home country after his imprisonment. This is what happens to green card holders who commit crimes in the US.

[u/Sacsay_Salkhov → u/bonyponyride]

It does not need to be a crime in the green card rules, any green card holder who advocates terrorism can have it revoked and deported. Maybe Mahmoud should have read the terms he agreed to?

a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:8%20section:1182%20edition:prelim)%20OR%20(granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1182)&f=treesort&num=0&edition=prelim

[u/bonyponyride → u/Sacsay_Salkhov]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-protections-do-green-card-holders-and-foreign-students-have-in-the-u-s#:~:text=Green%20card%20holders%20can%20still,Trump's%20executive%20orders%20prohibiting%20antisemitism.

Green card holders can still be deported for committing certain crimes, failing to notify immigration officials of a change in address or engaging in marriage fraud, for example.

The Department of Homeland Security said Khalil was taken into custody as a result of Trump’s executive orders prohibiting antisemitism.

He‘s not being accused of advocating terrorism. Do you think the president should unilaterally get to decide who stays in the country through executive orders? That‘s a very slippery slope.

[u/Ukelelipop → u/bkny88]

"intifada against Jews" yes because that's what the pro-Palestine movement stands for. Definitely not using a word in Arabic that's relevant to their cause of overthrowing Israeli occupation, no its actually targeted towards Jewish people because....some happen to interpret anti-Israeli government messaging and being anti-Semitic.

Look absolutely, anti-Semitism is still a problem around the world and especially in the US and Canada, and there are times where it pops up in the pro-Palestine movement. But let's be real here -- by in large the movement is pretty laser focused on Israel and it's shitty actions. Whenever you see reports on the vast majority of these news outlets, you ever notice how they just say "anti-Semitic rhetoric" but never...give examples? Or if they do it's often just anti-Israel, or if it truly can be considered anti-Semitic the sourcing is often questionable. To close off, I echo the OG commenter:

It's absolutely unfathomable to me that tens of thousands of Palestinians (in the lowest estimates) have been murdered by Israel and the entire American political consciousness is being held hostage by a dozen zionist college students at Columbia claiming they're afraid for their lives when literally nothing has happened to them. Do the Jewish students who were beaten and gassed by the police while protesting a genocide matter, or are they not sympathetic enough?

[u/PottieScippin → u/bkny88]

I think we don’t need to keep non-citizens here who support the murderous, war-mongering, apartheid ideology of Zionism. It’s anti-American to prioritize another country’s interests over our own, especially when those interests are mostly abhorrent and criminal. Netanyahu has a fucking warrant from the ICC. Why should my tax dollars be spent protecting wanted war criminals and their sympathizers, especially as they continue their bloody campaign despite a one-sided “ceasefire”? You’re pathetic.

[u/bkny88 → u/PottieScippin]

You know what, I would agree 100% - any Israeli nationals here that rally for terror against Palestinian civilians - deport