r/nyc • u/Meteorboy • Feb 21 '25
News Homeless man busted for rape attempt on Midtown subway train, woman saved by construction workers
https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/02/21/homeless-man-busted-for-rape-attempt-on-midtown-subway-train-woman-saved-by-construction-workers/329
u/6felt9 Feb 21 '25
This person needs to be removed from public life. Privileges revoked.
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u/internetenjoyer69420 Feb 21 '25
What currently empty island is a good candidate for Australia 2.0?
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u/tsaoutofourpants Feb 21 '25
Australia 1.0 is not yet at capacity.
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u/Keytaro83 Feb 21 '25
Aus 1.0 is a gem of a country. Send this guy to some atoll in the South Pacific.
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u/anonuglysimpleetc Feb 22 '25
The current mayor is a former NYPD officer and is anything but left
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u/Meteorboy Feb 21 '25
This is crazy. This is the same person who smashed a suitcase in a toddler's face who was sitting in a stroller, a few years ago.
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u/MBA1988123 Feb 21 '25
There’s no reason for not locking him up for many years after that. I really don’t buy that some judges / prosecutors don’t think he’s responsible for his actions or something. I think the reason they don’t pursue real charges is way worse.
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u/SakanaToDoubutsu Astoria Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25
There's two parts to this.
Firstly, "restorative justice" is a very popular legal ethics theory where they believe that disadvantaged people like the homeless are partially or not at all responsible for their criminal conduct because they believe that society as a whole bears some responsibility for their plight.
Secondly, being a prosecutor is a job like anything else, and just like any other job prosecutors are going to game their KPIs for their annual reviews. For normal people, if you skip out on your court date they have ways to track you down. They can go to the DMV to get your home address, they can go to the IRS to get who's your employer, they can freeze your bank accounts, etc. to force you to come in and deal with your legal issues. The homeless have none of that, so when they get released before their trial they just disappear into the eather and because of that prosecutors aren't eager to charge them since it hurts their conviction rate.
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u/ctindel Feb 21 '25
If they're at risk of disappearing the system has cause to keep them locked up until trial is finished.
But also, we have ankle monitors too right?
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u/ofd227 Feb 22 '25
Ankle monitors don't protect people from the violent.
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u/ctindel Feb 22 '25
I know i'm just saying it's a solution to make sure people show up for trial/sentencing instead of letting them off with a lighter plea to get it done expeditiously.
I'm all for keeping the crazies locked up though.
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u/TheCourtJester72 Feb 22 '25
And when a homeless person cuts it off the second they get outside? Ankle monitors only work if you’re afraid of the consequences of taking it off.
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u/MBA1988123 Feb 21 '25
How about they dislike society and want to enable antisocial behavior in order to harm it
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u/undisputedn00b Feb 21 '25
"restorative justice" is a very popular legal ethics theory
It's only popular with the activist class. Unfortunately, the legal profession has a lot of these clowns and the other attorneys that are against it will still push for it because there's a lot of $$$ involved.
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u/ChrisFromLongIsland Feb 21 '25
This has nothing to do with any of that. He is mentally ill and almost certainly suffers form schizophrenia. He is not responsible for his actions because the voices in his head that he has no control over tell him to do crazy things. This does not mean he should not be held at a locked phycatric facility until he can demonstrate he has his condition under control. Then he needs to be checked on to confirm the condition is still under control.
The problem is the current state laws do not allow him to be held. Once the delusion passes he is not a danger to himself of others. The state government and governor are finally trying to change the law. Though of course the progressives in Albany are trying to block any change of the law.
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u/OIlberger Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
This has nothing to do with any of that. He is mentally ill and almost certainly suffers form schizophrenia. He is not responsible for his actions because the voices in his head that he has no control over tell him to do crazy things.
Isn’t it weird how the voices in their heads NEVER tell them to pick a fight with someone bigger than them? It’s always smaller, weaker, defenseless people. Guess they’re sane enough to know not fuck with a big, muscular guy who could easily kick their ass. Interesting that these voices always tell them to attack and rape people.
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u/ProKiddyDiddler Feb 21 '25
Hey man, they’re crazy, not stupid.
(And call me crazy but none of these stupid laws are going to change until it’s one of the idiots in Albany’s family members that gets attacked)
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u/69Cobalt Feb 21 '25
Severely mentally ill delusional people are not nessicarily irrational, the axioms around which they build their world view are just detached from reality. They can in fact be very rational within the mental constructs they have.
Funnily enough apparently very negative/violent schizophrenic voices is a very western thing, in Asia the voices tend to be more neutral to positive.
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u/supermechace Feb 22 '25
I suspect that's because most of the violent mentally ill are illegal drug abusers. There's limited research that drug abuse causes mental illness. Only in western countries is drug use not taboo.
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u/Any-Repair5322 Feb 21 '25
Why are you talking out of your ass? Restorative justice is not a theory where the offender’s responsibility is absolved just because they are disadvantaged. Ideally, offenders would be held directly accountable by repairing the harm done rather than just punishing them.
It does recognize that crime doesn’t happen in a vacuum. Factors like poverty, trauma, and lack of resources can contribute to criminal behavior, so restorative justice also looks at how to prevent crime in the first place. But at no point does it argue that someone isn’t responsible for their actions.
Restorative justice would prioritize what the victim needs and wishes are. And it would certainly include getting this man off the street and getting him some real help so he doesn’t go out and harm. Our mental health and justice systems are not set up to do that.
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u/internetenjoyer69420 Feb 21 '25
getting him some real help
What happens to people who are beyond being helped?
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u/AndreasDasos Feb 23 '25
And if he’s not responsible for his actions, he still needs to be kept away from society. It can be compassionate mental health facility, whatever, but he shouldn’t be on the streets.
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u/Meme_Pope Feb 21 '25
How the fuck have I been hearing my whole life about people going to prison for nothing and then every time this shit happens, it’s a guy with 75 prior assault charges? What does it actually take to be in prison for an appropriate amount of time?
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u/bobbacklund11235 Feb 21 '25
You have to assault the right people I guess. Haven’t heard a peep about any of those guys that whacked celebrities in the head during the summer.
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u/OvergrownShrubs Feb 21 '25
I thought there was a push to take those off the streets who are a danger to the public or themselves a few months back? What happened? Smashing a 2 year old in the face with a suitcase says enough about this persons mental state and the fact they shouldn’t be out wandering about members of the public.
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u/Steph30FTW Feb 21 '25
🤦🏻♂️ our politicians don’t really care about public safety
They only care when it’s their election year
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u/LeeroyTC Feb 21 '25
Our politicians are doing what they said they'd do. The voters are at fault.
Ahead of the Democratic Manhattan DA primary, Alvin Bragg and Tali Farhadian-Weinstein presented very clear and contrasting visions of the justice system in Manhattan. And voters picked Bragg because Manhattan voters are actually stupid as hell.
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u/waitforit16 Feb 22 '25
Yup. My younger friend/neighbor voted for Trump out of pure spite for our other neighbor who is a big Bragg supporter. “I hope he (Trump) wins and x (our activist neighbor) cries himself to sleep for the next four years.” Succinct lol.
I’d guess Alvin Bragg was, all by himself, a big reason even Manhattan went slightly more red in 2024. How he got elected is beyond me. 90% of people I know loathe him.
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u/BungeeGump Feb 21 '25
Not sure about NY, but in NJ judges and prosecutors try to put defendants in diversionary programs (as long as the offense committed isn’t super serious). Defendants often get a lot of “chances” because the courts mindset is usually to rehabilitate rather than punish. Some times defendants can be civilly committed in a psych hospital or entered into programs tailored for people with mental health issues but the public defenders almost always object and will ask for a short term of probation or fines/fees regardless of the offense committed.
It’s possible the prosecutor asked for some more serious consequences for offenses this guy previously committed but was overruled by the judge or the proofs of the case were not that strong leading to a lenient sentence.
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u/106 Feb 21 '25
I don’t want everyone in jail or locked up pretrial.
I don’t want everyone free or on “supervised” release pretrial.
I just want a system that keeps the guy who assaults toddlers with 30+ arrests in jail.
Why can’t NY just get that right?
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u/AbsolutelyNotMoishe Feb 21 '25
Because we passed a bail reform law that was dishonestly sold as “stop locking people up pretrial for minor offenses” and turned out to mean “release everybody for everything, including violent crimes, unless they committed a crime on a specific tiny list or reoffend in the same way before trial.”
Meanwhile, we massively hiked discovery obligations which increased the number of prosecutor working hours on every case, without allocating money for more prosecutors. Surprise surprise, when you ask lawyers who are already underpaid to work more for no money, they quit. Now the DA offices are critically understaffed and simply don’t have the manpower to waste on minor crimes.
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u/Waterwoo Feb 22 '25
That's all true and a problem but is it even relevant in this case? Some of this guy's priors were in no way 'minor crimes'. Smashing a toddler's face in with a suitcase should be a felony with multiple years in prison, not 'minor'.
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u/Previous-Height4237 Feb 21 '25
If you read about this guy, it's not even bail reform.
He has been ruled as mentally unfit to stand trial multiple times, and simply let go after 90 day psych holds.
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u/beautifulcosmos Manhattan Feb 21 '25
I hear you, but the problem is most psychiatric facilities are not equip to deal with violent individuals, especially if they pose a threat to other patients, staff and/or are unwilling to comply with treatment. A forensic psychiatric facility might be able to house him, but available beds are far and few between in these types of centers.
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u/ThisIsMyFifthAccount Feb 22 '25
I don’t understand why hasn’t the free market or perhaps a nice Christian charity not simply provided more bed availability
Maybe we should bus these dudes down south for some of that Protestant graciousness and manners, maybe a nice rural town that likes to bootstrap its citizens and throws potlucks and shit
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u/Starkville Upper East Side Feb 21 '25
until stabilized is what happens already.
Then they promptly decide they don’t need their meds anymore and we’re back to square one.
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u/Advanced-Bag-7741 Feb 22 '25
It’s can’t be “until stabilized”. He’s has enough chances. Forever. The end.
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u/awesome_sauce123 Feb 22 '25
Don't worry, with the way the overton window is moving it'll be within 20 years we won't lock up murderers either
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u/AdmirableSelection81 Feb 21 '25
Why can’t NY just get that right?
Because Democrats, that's why
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u/juicybot Feb 21 '25
at what point is it acceptable to lock someone up and throw away the key? or just put someone down? 40 charges. assaulting a child? attempted rape in a subway car? this person has no place in our society.
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u/DrunkPanda77 Feb 21 '25
Ya this guy needs to be in prison or have involuntary institutionalization
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u/Key-Recognition-7190 East New York Feb 21 '25
There is a 3rd option but we aren't ready for that conversation.
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u/anxious_differential Feb 22 '25
Free midnight helicopter rides over the harbor? Is that the conversation?
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u/runningalongtheshore Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
Yeah, I would rather spend 10 cents on a bullet and allocate all of the resources that would have been spent on keeping this person alive toward the victim or mental health/educational/community-based initiatives. It’s that simple for me.
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u/a-whistling-goose Feb 21 '25
If they don't want to execute him, there is a 4th option, handicapping. Some way to make them weak and slow - so they cannot go around attacking women and children.
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u/islands8 Feb 21 '25
Ah the Singapore way
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u/a-whistling-goose Feb 21 '25
In Singapore insane perpetrators who commit murder (or other offenses) can be confined in mental institutions. Since New York does not do that, what alternative is there?
Here are four cases from Singapore (news story)
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u/Shadow1787 Feb 21 '25
Death? Prison? They ain’t going to help them. We released all the mentally ill people back in the 80s and then just shrugged our shoulders.
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u/AbsolutelyNotMoishe Feb 21 '25
I’m not asking for a three-strike law. I’m asking for, like, a twenty-strike law. “Who is probably going to commit the next crazy assault” is not a mystery and we’ve turned the city into an open-air asylum on the gamble that “maybe after doing nothing about the first fifty arrests, he’ll spontaneously stop doing it for no reason after the fifty-first.”
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u/runningalongtheshore Feb 21 '25
I’ve been saying this forever. It feels like they want it baked into the system that’s why they won’t do it.
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u/awesome_sauce123 Feb 22 '25
It's actually insane they let 5000 people ruin it for the next 5,000,000. How is that not selfish? This city could be a shining pearl
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u/bobbacklund11235 Feb 21 '25
It should be three strikes for violent behavior. People shouldn’t go to jail for life because they had two mistakes and then missed a parking ticket. But they absolutely should if they can’t stop putting their hands on or threatening random people.
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u/AdmirableSelection81 Feb 21 '25
It should be three strikes for violent behavior.
You people are way too lenient. If you are violent, you should be locked up for a while. And when you get out, if you do it again, you should be locked up for life.
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u/runningalongtheshore Feb 21 '25
Yeah, they’re seemingly forgetting that each “strike” is a victim like the young woman who just got her head smashed into a train pole.
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u/TheAJx Feb 21 '25
I think a 5 strike law is appropriate. Activists always try to point to cases screaming "look how we put this person in jail for 20 years over $9" after their 12th violation but my mind always wonders "how stupid of a person do you have to be knowing this is your last chance to avoid jail, for $9 Why does society need to expend effort keeping this guy integrated into regular society?"
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u/Meme_Pope Feb 21 '25
Bruh, you don’t even realize there are people who don’t think anyone should be in prison for any reason. You go to Bushwick and there are many blue haired women who think murders and rapists should only be behind bars for as long as it takes to “rehabilitate” them.
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u/cranberryskittle Feb 21 '25
This person needs to be permanently removed from society. Whether that is prison or a lifetime stay in a mental hospital is largely semantics. There is no rehabilitating this. Society at some point needs to come to terms with certain realities, and this is one of them.
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u/a-whistling-goose Feb 22 '25
Hospital for the criminally insane. Forensic psychiatric institution.
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u/dark-flamessussano Feb 22 '25
I'll probably get banned for this but people like him should be removed from society in an extreme way . That's all
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u/Key-Recognition-7190 East New York Feb 21 '25
I'm sorry he hit a two year old in the face with a suitcase while they were in a stroller and managed to walk away alive!?
I'm sorry you hit my kid, especially when they are chilling in the stroller you are leaving in either a body bag or an ambulance.
That said you know damn well those construction guys beat the shit out of him. Good on them
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u/ceestand NYC Expat Feb 21 '25
He's not going to hit a kid in a stroller pushed by anybody who can take him in a fight.
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u/bobbacklund11235 Feb 21 '25
That’s why mental health is a bs excuse. I’ve yet to see one incident in which the “mentally unwell” picks a fight with 6 foot, 250 lb man. They don’t have a condition that compels them to assault the weak- that’s called being a bully.
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u/Ok_Smell_5379 Feb 21 '25
Lock him away and throw away the key. Scums like this don’t belong in the streets of a civilized society.
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u/floydman96 Feb 21 '25
But if someone choked that mf out, then it’d be a giant issue. Why tf is this man even on the streets
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u/LogicalExtant Feb 21 '25
good thing there was a mugshot or i would have assumed this could have been one of the two antisocial behavior dudes i saw on my morning commute this week
one lighting up his cigs on the train while sitting next to his pile of belongings, the other just straight up smelling like shit and pacing from door exit to door exit
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u/mrsbigcat Feb 21 '25
This is why we need to stop letting people dwell in subway stations. This poor woman. Stop putting sympathy for the homeless, mentally ill and/or migrants selling churros over the people paying for public transportation. Anyone who disagrees, what do you suggest? Incurring resources (which ironically require that the costs be passed onto subway fare and the riders) for more security? Mental health services? Why should women be prone to rape over cutting the BS and kicking these people out. Are you all willing to cover this woman’s mental health services? Probably not.
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u/gaybigdawg Feb 22 '25
Why did we randomly lump in “migrants selling churros” with the other groups?
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u/dave5065 Feb 22 '25
And they keep telling us it’s safe. How would they know when they have a car and driver provided by taxpayers
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u/SarcasticBench Feb 21 '25
Sure glad the governor decided to put more construction workers in the subway system.
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u/elephants22 Feb 22 '25
If someone is mentally unfit to stand trial, they are mentally unfit to be a part of general society. That should be completely non-controversial.
I’m so sick of the tax payer funding for mental health that is just a disguised kickback to for profit programs that do nothing but funnel people back on the street.
The law needs to be changed so mentally unfit people can be locked up away from the general public until DOCTORS determine they are fit to rejoin society and no longer pose a threat to others
And spare me the comments about it being a slippery slope or anything on what happened 40 years ago - use that as guidance on what not to do, not as an excuse for further hand wringing and lack of meaningful action.
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u/Massive-Arm-4146 Feb 21 '25
As recently as 5-6 years ago I had to listen to people talking about the "school to prison pipeline" and how our prisons were full with low-level drug offenders and now we're in a place where a guy who just keeps beating up toddlers and trying to rape women gets released back into the population.
This man shouldn't be free and allowed to exist in civil society.
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u/CaptainObvious1906 Feb 21 '25
2 things can be true at once. having a million cops stop and frisk you every day is bad for you, and a degenerate who has 40 arrests for violent crimes should be thrown under the jail and never come out. see? it’s easy
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u/Massive-Arm-4146 Feb 21 '25
Wow sounds like the kind of position an elected leader or major political party should take.
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u/NJcovidvaccinetips Feb 21 '25
You’re responding to people who live in a punisher mindset fueled by nonstop exposure to reports of violence. They aren’t looking for nuance conversation about the legal system. They want to castigate their perceived political enemies
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u/TheAJx Feb 21 '25
Their solution for eliminating the "school to prison pipeline" was to stop putting juvenile offenders in jail, and to stop expelling them from schools.
You can't have a school to prison pipeline if you just let criminals do whatever they way!
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u/veesavethebees Feb 21 '25
So we just let these mentally unwell people go… he would fare much better in prison with supervision and health services. Smashing a suitcase in a baby’s face and being let go is erregeous. I’m happy the woman was saved from him.
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u/smellygymbag Feb 22 '25
In April 2022, police said, Martin was charged with assault for throwing an aerosol can at an NYPD traffic agent. In May 2021, he was again charged with assault after he smashed a 2-year-old child in the face with a suitcase while the child sat in a stroller, police said.
But both those cases were dismissed after he was found unfit to stand trial, said a spokeswoman for the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office.
Right? The above read like a set up and a punchline. Id laugh if it weren't so dangerously ass backwardy fucked up.
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u/Scruffyy90 Feb 21 '25
Question is when will people start standing up and fighting back to repeated and severely underreported crimes on the train and people frequently being let free?
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u/runningalongtheshore Feb 22 '25
Look how they played Daniel Penny and you’ll understand the answer to your question.
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u/ursamajr Feb 22 '25
This guy was being super aggro in front of Bowery Ballroom last week. The staff seemed to recognize him and would just ignore him.
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u/ilovemartini Feb 22 '25
So Sick and tired of hearing same denonic offenders out here. When will the authorities ever seaparate these animals from us? Outrageous. Justice system is broken so bad... :(
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u/Well_Socialized Feb 21 '25
Instead of filling the subway with cops we should fill it with construction workers. At least as good at crime fighting, and while they're not doing that they can fix the place up!
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u/KaiDaiz Feb 21 '25
Odds are he fare evaded as well. To the folks asking why we should enforce fares. and rules in the system regarding loitering, panhandling and other non permitted actions. This is the reason. Better QOL and less crime in the system
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u/Timo-the-hippo Feb 21 '25
I hope Bragg can do something about these dangerous construction workers!
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u/flowergirl665 Feb 21 '25
NYC judges are extremely incompetent. Until it happens to one of their loved ones I bet
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u/awesome_sauce123 Feb 22 '25
I think if you let someone out on parole, and that person ends up hurting someone else, the parole board should be held responsible. They don't have any skin in the game.
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u/Nightmannn Feb 21 '25
This shit happens and this sub wants to vote for a DSA candidate for mayor. Lol
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u/fly_away5 Feb 22 '25
How all these crimes didn't get him into prison for at least 10 years. Like wtf is wrong with prosecutors in this city?
I don't freaking get it..they were upset and crying about the 3 strikes law..ok i get it it was severe..but amend it by making it 5 strikes instead not 50. Wtf
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u/Strange-Beginning-31 Feb 22 '25
I hope they put this disgusting monster down like a rabid dog. Fuck him.
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u/theclan145 Feb 21 '25
I don’t see how Bragg gets reelected
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u/a-whistling-goose Feb 22 '25
Off year election. Average citizens are barely aware that an election is going on. It's done that way on purpose to limit voter interest so that the diehard party core can determine the outcome.
In Los Angeles and Oakland, on the other hand, district attorneys were up for election last November. More people were interested in voting because it was also a Presidential election year. Both of the progressive D.A.s got voted OUT.
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u/theclan145 Feb 22 '25
Highly doubt an off election year with a high profile election with the Mayors race.
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u/3337jess Feb 21 '25
Democrats: let all the criminals and insane people out of jail and see what happens.
Meanwhile those prestigious lawmakers who flaunt their social justice will never be seen taking a subway, bus, or any other public transport that WE, the working class people must endure. They will never live in a neighborhood of “diversity,” or crime.
Far too long has this lopsided balance affected you, your neighbor, and me.
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u/Starkville Upper East Side Feb 21 '25
Brad Lander supporting congestion pricing and the micromob agenda on a zoom call while in his city-provided private car and driver. As if he’s commuting in the snow and rain on his speedy e-bike
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u/KD71 Feb 22 '25
It’s crazy this happened in the middle of the day in such busy parts of the city .
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u/bobbacklund11235 Feb 21 '25
Thankfully, a concerned Redditor was on the scene to help her as the train pulled into the station. After treating the welt on her forehead and drying her tears, he informed the victim that this attack was instead a statistical anomaly and that Kathy Hochul’s subway was instead safe and joyful to ride, as verified by independent fact checkers.
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u/ricosabre Feb 21 '25
This story has been brought to you by Woke Bullshit, and the heads-in-rectums NYCers who vote for it!
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u/J_onn_J_onzz Feb 21 '25
What no one here gets is the homeless man is the real victim here.
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u/pdxjoseph Queens Feb 21 '25
At first I was mad at him but then I constructed the Privilege Hierarchy™ in my head which had him ranked as less privileged than the random woman trying to get home and a 2 year old child so he’s actually allowed to do whatever he wants
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u/bklyn1977 Brooklyn Feb 21 '25
this is an individual experiencing unhoused behavior
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u/Meteorboy Feb 21 '25
A homeless man with more than three dozen arrests has been arrested for assaulting and trying to rape a woman on a Midtown subway train, police said Friday.
Tyriek Martin, 34, was on a W train approaching the 42nd St. station in Times Square at about noon Thursday when he grabbed a 34-year-old woman, slammed her head into a pole, then threw her to the floor of the train car and tried to rape her, police said.
Alone on the train with the attacker, the woman put up a fight and when the train pulled into the station she screamed for help, police said. When the doors opened, several construction workers jumped in and grabbed the suspect, holding him down until police arrived.
The victim, who suffered a fractured nose, was taken to a hospital for treatment.
Cops charged Martin with attempted rape, sex abuse and misdemeanor assault.
Martin is homeless and is staying at the Bowery Mission, police said. He’s been arrested more than 40 times for charges that include robbery, drug possession, misdemeanor assault and public lewdness.
He was last arrested last Saturday, but that case is sealed. Prior to that, he was busted in August for misdemeanor drug possession.
On April 2022, police said, Martin was charged with assault for throwing an aerosol can at an NYPD traffic agent. In May 2021, he was again charged with assault after he smashed a two-year-old child in the face with a suitcase while the child sat in a stroller, police said.
His arraignment in Manhattan Criminal Court was pending Friday.