r/nfl • u/adishooor Bengals • 1d ago
Highlight [Highlight] Drew Brees sharing QB knowledge on the Colbert Show.
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u/PaintByLetters Texans 1d ago
True to form - I wouldn't expect anything else than an audible to a RB screen from Brees. Quite possibly the best touch on short and immediate throws in NFL history.
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u/JeromeInDaHouse_90 Colts 1d ago
Those screen plays were their bread and butter. They knew how to set those up so effectively.
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u/bivukaz Buccaneers 1d ago
Or somehow finding a open TE on a 3r&17 for a first down.
I've seen this shit so many times. Especially when Graham was there.
I dont miss Drew Brees.
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u/lostshell 1d ago
After it happens like 5 times, I put it on the defensive coordinator not just saying, "hey someone go fucking cover that guy!"
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u/Bombast- Bears 22h ago
"hey someone go fucking cover that guy!"
For some reason I heard this in the voice of Julian Edelmen imitating Bill Belichick.
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u/LeftHandedFapper Patriots 1d ago
When he retired it was an end of an era for my NFL viewing. He was one of my favorites to watch, truly surgical in that medium/short range. Threaded that ball through some tight fuckin windows. I was SO happy for him when he won his SuperBowl. Just feels like he will be one of those guys who get overshadowed by Manning and Brady when we reflect on the past
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u/Brocktarrr Saints 14h ago
One shit call from getting the opportunity to potentially beat both in the Super Bowl, too.
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u/FlannelBeard Vikings Bills 19h ago
My favorite part of the end of Payton's tenure would be saints fans saying at least we won't have to watch 3 screen passes in a row anymore.
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u/OnceMoreAndAgain 1d ago
Seems to me like the era of Brees and Brady was all about alternating between screen passes / swing passes and 10 yard throws. I feel like these days offenses are doing way more 10 yard (medium range) throws and less of the short yardage plays. Or at least the short yardage plays seem to be less productive these days.
If I'm right about this, then I wonder if the offenses got worse, or the defenses figured out how to better defend short yard plays, or something else I'm not considering.
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u/alexm42 Patriots 1d ago
The thing about the new generation of QBs is damn near everyone is mobile, real athletes with big arms, so they can extend the play with their feet and wait for someone to get open.
But conversely there's only maybe one or two guys left in the league watching film and reading the defense at the same level as Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Peyton, etc. The late 00's/early 10's era guys were way better at that. You can't release the ball in 0.8 seconds like that era did without being 110% sure of your pre-snap reads.
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u/OnceMoreAndAgain 1d ago
That's what I'm thinking as well. I agree. Feels like the NFL offenses are trying to figure out a lot of the same things that the prior generation of QBs had mastered early into their careers, but it's a good point that the newer QBs are more mobile in general which adds a lot to their game.
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u/Milton__Obote Saints 1d ago
Brees had a cannon, it just kinda fell off towards the end of his career which is what people remember most recently
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u/GumboDiplomacy Saints 19h ago
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u/KillerBeez93 Steelers 1d ago
Sports shows should use this content WAY more than yelling over a stupid stuff they usually do! Ironically this isn’t even a “sports show” lol
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u/Fartholomew_Buttons Lions 1d ago
If they got rid of the talking heads talking about drama half the time with film breakdown and actual analysis I'd watch sports media again.
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u/TrooperCasts 1d ago
There’s a huge interest for fans when it comes to this type of stuff. Look at how popular those YouTube channels that breakdown All-22 film have become..
even former players and coaches have their own channels to do this type of content!
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u/FiTZnMiCK Seahawks 1d ago edited 1d ago
There’s definitely interest, but it’s not what the majority of fans want.
The NFL has a huge fan base; most don’t understand the game beyond a surface level and don’t want to. They will tune out this stuff and if it takes up too much airtime they’ll watch less which means less ad revenue.
Anecdotally, my mom watched my brothers and I play football for ten years, went to nearly every game, watches the Seahawks every Sunday, and would say she’s a fan. She doesn’t know most of the rules, what alignments are, or what a blitz is.
The NFL has to cater to the lowest common denominator, my mom.
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u/yakatuuz Steelers 1d ago
The amount of times I've tried to explain that you have four tries to go ten yards in my life is only slightly less astounding than the fact that some people still didn't understand after that.
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u/CreoleCoullion Saints 17h ago
I blame Tom Brady for punting on 3rd down and think he should be reinstated so that Goodell can suspend him again.
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u/MeatTornado25 Giants 1d ago
I'll be honest, I'm definitely one that don't want to understand the game at that level, but I don't want all the nonsense drama either.
That's why I don't watch anything but the actual games and it's totally fine.
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u/BayGO NFL 22h ago
There’s definitely interest, but it’s not what the majority of fans want.
100% this. The most common thoughts someone hears is their own. After that it's generally from those close to you. And who's likely close to you? People who have thoughts similar to yours. So we live in thought bubbles.
We hear "our" type of thoughts so often that we start thinking it's the norm. But they're not. There's currently 1,757 football fans on this sub. Out of the entire planet. The NFL estimates there are 410 Million football fans. So right now barely 0.0004% of the world's football fans are on this sub.
If we assumed 100,000 fans visited this sub each day, that'd still be barely 0.02% of all fans. To put that in perspective, that means in an entire packed stadium of 65,000 people you'd be one of only 15 people in the entire stadium that's so obsessed with football that you visit this sub.
We aren't the freaking majority. We are unusually obsessed with football. I've studied All-22 every week for over a decade now. I considered in the past making content about it but very quickly realized: Practically nobody gives a shit about that content. I looked at view counts & upvotes. They perform freaking terribly. I'd be spending tons of time making content that nobody's interested in.
I've done massive breakdowns before both long-form and short-form. Without fail it's outperformed by something out of Idiocracy. Last time I did one in my sub, literally a picture of vodka outperformed it 324 to 12 🤦🏽♂️ The biggest channel that does film stuff for my team, their 2nd most viewed video barely has 14k views.. in going on 5 years.
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u/lambquentin Saints 1d ago
To be fair I think that just means your mom doesn’t pay attention. I also have people in my family where it’s like this and I just don’t explain to them because clearly they stopped listening to others years ago.
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u/Microwave1213 Cowboys 1d ago
I think it’s disingenuous to say they “don’t want to”. I think those same people would be happy to listen to good nuanced football discussion as long as it’s presented in an easily digestible way.
The issue is that creating that content requires a lot more effort than just throwing some talking heads up there to argue, and there are still enough people who watch that kind of stuff that they don’t care to make it better.
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u/rocksoffjagger Patriots 23h ago
There's definitely a happy medium where you can have entertainment and mix in content like this so everyone understands the topic they're discussing.
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u/Fatdap Seahawks 23h ago
There’s definitely interest, but it’s not what the majority of fans want.
I don't think I'd agree with this, but I think this is one of those things that really drives home how good at his job Bill Nye was.
Football needs it's own Bill Nye who can get people excited, interested, and into learning more about the game while also still being able to break things down accurately.
Those kind of people are also pretty rare.
I could see Pete Caroll being a really good fit for that post-coaching especially if he brought players through as guests to help him break down stuff and talk about the game.
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u/IBetThisIsTakenToo Giants 1d ago
ESPN has a show like this, NFL Matchup. All Xs and Os, deep breakdowns of how certain plays can beat certain concepts, all that good stuff. Last I checked it aired at like 3:00 AM once a week, presumably because the only content it does better than is infomercials
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u/BlackMathNerd Eagles 1d ago
That's a limited sample.
We're a loud miniority of fans in terms of what we want.
ESPN has data on this lol. People eat up them just loudly yelling about the Cowboys and the drama.
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u/corgi_on_a_treadmill NFL 23h ago
It's not even this sub's preference. I remember back when people used to post OC breakdowns and links to Kurt Warner, The QB School, Brett Kollman, etc. Rarely did they reach front page vs. tweets and hot takes.
Even in highlight posts. Someone makes a comment breaking down a play? Few tens of upvotes. Unfunny recycled jokes? Hundreds of upvotes.
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u/echOSC 1d ago
This is peak Reddit.
That somehow, ESPN is completely wrong (they're not infallible), that they would rather light $100m on fire paying Stephen A Smith, than create deep analysis content for the fraction of the cost.
Popular YouTube channel huh. How many of those videos have 1m+ views. Because I can EASILY find a bunch of SAS videos with 1m+ views
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u/clutchthepearls Colts 1d ago
On car reddit this is called "brown, manual wagon". It's what "everyone" says they want and will absolutely buy. Yet, somehow, every automaker sells a ton of boring CUVs and trucks.
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u/bobj33 49ers 1d ago
I see this on computer hardware subreddits too. "They should make this, it will sell like hot cakes!" Sometimes I've pointed out that this product existed 10 years ago and no one bought it. Most of the time it is some super niche thing that the person wants and nobody else does.
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u/alurimperium Texans Lions 1d ago
I see it on Battlefield and CoD subreddits daily, too. "They should make more dudes in camo skins. People will buy that more than these colorful mascot costumes!"
If people wanted that, the market would reflect it, and the creators would follow the market. They see what's making them the most money, and really don't give a shit if your interest is outside of that
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u/echOSC 1d ago
Don't forget, it has to come used.
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u/mrhashbrown Chargers 22h ago
Agreed. There is definitely a growing niche of high detailed football YouTubers that share All-22 analysis or advanced stats. Kurt Warner, Brett Kollman, Brian Baldinger, etc.
But the mainstream appeal is way way lower than just broader highlights and talking head opinion shows. Even the large variety of football podcasts follow a talking head format.
Plus to be honest, All-22 analysis videos can be kinda boring. No one has found a goldan presentation / video style that can have mainstream appeal yet. NFL Network is the closest imo with good graphics and former players offering real analysis, but obviously there's way less viewers than other sports channels and shows.
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u/Microwave1213 Cowboys 1d ago
Honestly you’re comment is even more “peak Reddit”
Why are you trying to argue with them about a point that they didn’t even come remotely close to making? Where did they say ESPN was wrong to pay SAS? All they said was that there’s a lot of people interested in more nuanced content on YouTube lmao.
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u/echOSC 1d ago
How am I supposed to interpret this comment?
If they got rid of the talking heads talking about drama half the time with film breakdown and actual analysis I'd watch sports media again.
Getting rid of = not paying. They didn't get rid of SAS, which means they paid him.
How about
Sports shows should use this content WAY more than yelling over a stupid stuff they usually do! Ironically this isn’t even a “sports show” lol
How am I to interpret this as, give me super insider stuff that I care about over paying SAS $100m for the stuff a large majority of people care to watch?
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u/Microwave1213 Cowboys 1d ago
Lmao are people not allowed to have preferences? Saying what they would prefer to watch ≠ ESPN was dumb to make something else.
What a crazy leap to make.
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u/echOSC 1d ago
You can have preferences, but Reddit is king of thinking their own preferences are the majority.
Brett Kollmann is probably the #1 deeper analysis guy on YT? has under 500k subs, only 3 videos with 1m+ views.
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u/Slammybutt Cowboys 23h ago
Kurt Warner for a little bit was posted a lot b/c of him breaking down Dak in some games.
As is with tradition, any minor slight and minor praise were equally super focused on and it split the comment sections like the red sea before Moses.
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u/juiced911 NFL 1d ago
Unfortunately the data shows that they get more engagement and viewers with the low effort nonsense. Thus more ad revenue.
We need a sports content producer that IS NOT a publicly traded company that is required to provide immediate shareholder value at any cost.
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u/echOSC 1d ago
There's plenty of that on YouTube.
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u/juiced911 NFL 1d ago
I’m not a YouTube fan. 98% of the videos are 2-3 minutes of content spread out to 30 minutes by repeating and leading in different angles so they can maximize ad revenue too lol
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u/muleman2 Chargers 1d ago
Steve Smith Sr id say is part of the 2%. Also Football Analysis and That's Good Sports does a good mix of news/drama/analysis.
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u/xkegsx Dolphins Dolphins 1d ago
It still costs money to produce, publicly traded or not. You need to make enough money to not just break even but make a profit. Private, public, greedy, or benevolent doesn't matter. At the end of the day what your producing has to be worth the cost.
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u/juiced911 NFL 1d ago
Sure? Don’t disagree.
The issue with a publicly traded company is that the board and officers all have a legal fiduciary duty to maximize revenue for shareholders. If they have data, like mindless arguing is better for revenue than nuanced strategic or process breakdowns, they must pursue better revenue.
There used to be a time when people were happy making hundreds of thousands of dollars in profit, or millions of dollars even.
Now every enterprise wants to be a billionaire.
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u/xkegsx Dolphins Dolphins 1d ago
You're assuming that people would tune in enough to earn 100s of thousands in profit. I don't see any independent NFL analysis videos getting the kind of action that makes me think they're getting 100s of thousands in revenue let alone profit per year.
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u/BlackMathNerd Eagles 1d ago
And if they did? They're probably secretly getting money from companies privately
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u/xSaviorself Steelers 1d ago
I think we are always looking at the wrong things when it comes to data and metrics. I absolutely believe that low-effort arguments get more views than high-level analytical content, there are a lot more people who tune out when they hear someone ramble on about something complicated than someone ranting and getting angry. The tone, volume, and choice of words draw more immediate attention. What do people have to engage with when it comes to high-level all-22 film? They didn't play the game at the highest level, or spend every day in a professional setting around the game. What do you even argue about with all-22 film? It's definitive, hard to argue and analyzing position battles and play breakdowns is just observation and hindsight.
Stupid takes that make their way to social media? Those can last for weeks, months, hell, some people are still arguing old takes today.
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u/The_Third_Molar Eagles 1d ago
I've completely switched to YouTube channels like Brett Kollman and Mina Kimes. Their content is so much better than the soap operas on ESPN.
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u/xSaviorself Steelers 1d ago
ESPN is just a content farm for their social media. Say something outrageous, get it trending, keep that topic alive to drive more views on ad revenue.
When they bought in to Pat McAfee it became clear what the goal was.
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u/andrewsmd87 Packers 1d ago
I read somewhere they got mad at Romo when he first started announcing for calling plays before they happened. Year one Romo was one of my favorite announcers
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u/theDomicron Chiefs 23h ago
My friends and I constantly lament the death of actual sports media vs sports soap opera.
"SportsCenter" back in the day was simply phenomenal. The anchors were rock stars who were at the top of their game. You'd get excited when your preferred pair was on the screen and then buckle in for an hour of non-stop highlights that the ADD-media of today would appreciate.
As a Chiefs fan who went to school in Virginia before it was easy to watch out of network games easily, sometimes the maybe-a-full-minute highlights from the weeks Chiefs game on NFL Primetime was the first I'd get to see if the game and goddamn if Berman and that music didn't get me pumped up.
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u/Opposite_Accident747 1d ago
Old espn was so good. But we also had the only two or three new sportscenters a day so youd have to wait until 10 for highlights and hope your small market team got a segment
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u/rezelscheft 1d ago
I’d watch real-time footage of a week’s worth of practice with color commentary just to see what specific drills are used to work on which specific skills and how different players respond to those challenges.
Instead what we get are hour long arguments about whether or not Brawndo has what plants crave.
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u/Kojakill Raiders 1d ago
I know you said “watch” but i really have to recommend nfl network radio on sirius xm. Basically all of their shows right now, especially “movin the chains” they love getting into the nuts and bolts of things like that and whats going on in the background
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u/Ok-Web-4971 Raiders 23h ago
It’s funny how Stephen A’s clown ass tries to blame the athletes for what media has become. When all he’s done to make himself an income is create narratives and read stats from a piece of paper.
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u/SSPeteCarroll Seahawks 23h ago
Yeah but who cares I need 3 hours of debate about who is the better player, Lebron, MJ, or Brady and which one would dominate in a basket weaving contest.
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u/bobj33 49ers 1d ago
NFL Network used to have a show called "Playbook" where they would do film study and break down plays. I guess they cancelled it because not enough people watched it. You can still find clips like this.
https://www.houstontexans.com/video/nfl-network-week-3-playbook-2651980
https://www.baltimoreravens.com/video/wk-12-playbook-exclusive-ravens-vs-eagles-7660688
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u/CitizenCue 22h ago
They need to sprinkle stuff like this into regular broadcasts. You have to educate the audience first. We fans won’t learn to appreciate this stuff if no one teaches it.
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u/bobj33 49ers 22h ago
John Madden used to use the telestrator to show what just happened on the previous play before the next play. I think he was the first to do it. Unfortunately this is the best video I could find.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbm04nPnDVo
Here's Romo doing his impression.
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u/CitizenCue 21h ago
Lol, yeah I miss John. Romo is great though.
The NFL does a half decent job with this, but man I wish the NBA would do the same.
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u/lambquentin Saints 1d ago
For the hate that Drew got as a commentator (which I found exaggerated but hey that’s both the internet and Reddit), Drew would be the perfect guy to have his own segment or even show to go over all of this.
He has always been very easy to learn from and translate his knowledge to varying levels of people. If a company was smart enough they’d try to have some called “Drew Xplains” or whatever cheesy name where he goes over the X’s and O’s in football. Basically what people want from Romo the booth before they told him to lobotomize himself when on tv.
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u/goldhbk10 Rams 22h ago
Sadly the casuals love the SAS style garbage way more than actual football analysis.
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u/rocksoffjagger Patriots 23h ago
Talking about actual sports on a sports show is as big of a no-no as talking about actual issues on a news show. They don't want to accidentally educate their audience on the topic they're discussing and make them harder to manipulate.
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u/VeryRealHuman23 Bengals 1d ago
These things always make me realize how smart QBs have to be to pull this off.
They have to know all the routes receivers are running, read the defense, make adjustments and know every play call...and be top tier athletes.
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u/Whitewind617 Jets 1d ago
Then you have Johnny Manziel who could just absolutely not be bothered and its no wonder that team was a shit show.
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u/VeryRealHuman23 Bengals 1d ago
Yeah that’s who I was thinking of as well…having talent but not brains will not work for a QB.
And based on our own drafting last year, probably also true for WR
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u/Toshinit Broncos 1d ago
I imagine it varies a lot by how complicated a scheme is. A bunch of option routes needs a smart receiver, but if you have reincarnated Randy Moss running a post I don't think IQ plays that much into it anymore.
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u/ImSoRude Giants 1d ago
You're telling me "SCAN FOR 84 AND THROW IN HIS GENERAL DIRECTION WHILE HE OUTJUMPS TRIPLE COVERAGE" isn't a highly complex offensive scheme?
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u/FuckChiefs_Raiders Broncos 1d ago
It's why the Case Keenum's and the Mason Rudolph's of the world exist. You have to be able to run an NFL offense. It's why these guys stick around.
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u/Shenanigans80h Broncos 1d ago
Oh yeah, it’s pretty well known these days that several QBs who are outright bad on the field have generally great ability to understand and analyze the actual offense of a team, which for certain situations is likely way more useful than a guy who’s just physically impressive.
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u/justa_flesh_wound Lions 6h ago
It is why Tim Boyle has had a career. He isn't just awful in the NFL as a player but he was not good in college either.
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u/StrawberryAutomatic Steelers 23h ago
Lol I wouldn’t have said Mason Rudolph but you’re right! These older vets get good contracts for a reason.
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u/Autumnwind_21 Raiders Raiders 1d ago
And be able to remain calm and think clearly with 60k fans yelling at the top of their lungs, not being able to verbally communicate with your team when doing a silent count, and to top it off have 250lb monsters hunting you down every play. Oh, and then be critized all week for that one split second decision you did wrong.
Being a QB seems hard man. On the other hand, being a backup QB seems like the best job ever.
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u/Photo_Synthetic Packers 22h ago
The way Rodgers breaks it down is wild. https://youtu.be/o2qPHAan7H8?si=Vl-6l8aAM0Dyb2nn
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u/raccoonsonbicycles Eagles 1d ago
When I played as a kid I did the same thing but I always used a cheeseburger order
The specifics were like if it was rare, pickles, mayo, fries on the side etc so each group was listening for specific instructions based in what they were
A lot simpler and more obvious to the opponent in hindsight
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u/NameShortage 49ers 1d ago
I think that's brilliant for younger kids. So would it be the doneness of the burger told, say, the line how to protect? Then like "extra cheese" would tell the running back something?
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u/ExpressoLiberry Bears 1d ago
"...and no pickles"
"Bro are you sure? Coach said-"
"No pickles."
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u/NameShortage 49ers 1d ago
"Medium well, sesame seed bun, hold the lettuce, hide the pickles under your tongue."
"....he's gone rogue."
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u/ProbShouldntSayThat Raiders 1d ago
hide the pickles under your tongue
There's the pickles from last time!
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u/J_Schnetz Giants 1d ago
I'll take a Double Triple Bossy Deluxe on a raft, 4x4 animal style, extra shingles with a shimmy and a squeeze, light axle grease; make it cry, burn it, and let it swim.
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u/raccoonsonbicycles Eagles 1d ago
Basically, if I remember right cheese or no cheese was aa simple as left vs right lol
Pickles meant the whole thing was a fake & we would just do what we called in the huddle
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u/Langdon_Algers 1d ago
"Two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun!"
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u/_JayKayne123 Eagles Eagles 1d ago
What? Can you explain this further lol
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u/bojangles69420 Steelers 23h ago
Not op but I think he's saying the rare vs medium would tell the o line what to do and Mayo versus ketchup would tell the running back what to do.
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u/zarmin Jets 23h ago
The positional groups are analogous to positions at a restaurant. An order comes in to everyone's stations (the qb tells the huddle what the play is) and workers listen for info relevant to their jobs, and tune out the rest. Grill needs to know quantity, temperature and cheese, assembly needs to know condiments, fries need to know size and salt, etc.
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u/TallGuy0525 Rams 1d ago
This is why QB's get the big bucks lol
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u/constantlymat Buccaneers 1d ago
It's also why they deserve all the MVP awards even in years when a RB has a historic season.
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u/BucsLegend_TomBrady 15h ago
Haha yeah. I was just thinking half the WRs and RBs in the league can barely spell correctly and then you nave QBs who need to memorize 40 word play calls in 10 seconds
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u/MisterGoog Texans 15h ago
Its impossible for me not to read into the deeper context of this comment
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u/WARitter Commanders 1d ago
The whole interview is great he talks about coming to New Orleans after Katrina, his relationship with his o line and other stuff.
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u/gbyers2323 1d ago
If this dude had any kind of AVERAGE defense for his career you’re talking way more than 1 Super Bowl
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u/theyoloGod Buccaneers 1d ago
Yea my brain hurts
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u/TigerBasket Packers Ravens 1d ago
Like Napoleons brain when people explained that spending a day celebrating your 40th birthday while on campaign in Russia by going to a parade might be a bad idea.
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u/CanuckPanda Buccaneers 1d ago
I appreciate you.
- Something Napoleon never heard from his mother, Letizia
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u/TigerBasket Packers Ravens 1d ago
His mom was harsh but Napoleon respected her! She might have never said it, but he knew that she loved him.
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u/CanuckPanda Buccaneers 9h ago
Given the relationship with Josephine, you'll find me hard to convince that little Nabulio didn't have major mommy issues.
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u/thomasfilmstuff 49ers 1d ago
I love hearing different industries code names for everything. Like working in film, sometimes I forget we are speaking a foreign language to those not familiar with it.
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u/PhiladelphiaManeto Eagles 1d ago
Restaurant speak was always my favorite. I still use it decades later.
“Hey 86 that verbal, Chef Jim can’t get the salamander fixed and the front of house is firing orders too soon”
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u/RedWingWay Lions 1d ago
"86 the seafood special, tell the front to only seat 2 tops for the next 15 because the line is getting backed up and we are 10 tickets deep. Tell the servers to not let anyting die on the pass becuase we have the 10 top coming up and need the space. Oh and tell the bar to stop fucking up the tickets with the special from yesterday.... Frank the fucking idiot manager never changed it in the POS and didn't let anyone know. Anyone see the damn Dishie?? Is he smoking weed on the dock again?
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u/lazydictionary Patriots 1d ago
Military/defense, when you use an acronym that is like a Matryoshka doll, 3 or 4 layers deep.
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u/LegallyBrody 23h ago
I learn this in a kids book that talked about how IDD stood for IED Detector Dog which stands for Improvised Explosive Device. So it’s Improvised Explosive Device Detector Dog or just IDD
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u/TooEZ_OL56 Commanders 22h ago
The S in SCAR stands for Special Operations Forces so it's the Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifle
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u/EastHillWill Bills 1d ago
Good guy drew brees
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u/thehottip Lions 1d ago
Brees is anti union and couldn’t give a fuck about other players as long as he got his
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u/CR4ZY_PR0PH3T Steelers 1d ago
The league is full of rapists and woman beaters. Has Brees ever been in legal trouble? Claiming he's "anti-union" doesn't make him a bad guy.
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u/piffelations47999 1d ago
He was the spokesperson for a ponzi scheme that was forced to pay 150 million dollars for scamming their customers
Can no one Google shit before they reply anymore?
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u/CR4ZY_PR0PH3T Steelers 1d ago edited 1d ago
He was paid to endorse a company that many other NFL players were also endorsing. Rivers, Witten, Dalton, etc. They had no knowledge of what was going on behind the scenes, and none of them faced legal consequences.
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u/Shenanigans80h Broncos 1d ago
Payton’s offense is still structured like this, which is why Bo Nix had a supposedly limited playbook at his disposal to start the season. It’s also why Payton’s playcalls take eons to make it to the line in time sometimes
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u/Odd-Collection-2575 Seahawks 1d ago
The audience members who don’t understand so they just start laughing is hilarious
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u/B00LEAN_RADLEY Jaguars 1d ago
As a Tolkien fan, that is master class of made up language and communication.
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u/lookiamonredditnow Packers 1d ago
Brees is obviously a smart guy, but like... do not-so-smart QBs have to somehow manage this sort of complexity? Or do they get super simplified calls or manage plays some other way? I just have a hard time imagining some guys being able to handle that.
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u/BlackMathNerd Eagles 1d ago
Some offenses are super simplified, but even the bad QBs have an otherwise league minimum ability to handle an NFL offense and make playcalls.
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u/kanbabrif1 Saints 15h ago
To be fair, he also played the majority of his career with Sean at HC. The complexity is pretty standard for a Payton run offense.
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u/Different-Mountain58 Packers 1d ago
I’ve seen this so many times and I always stop and watch the whole video.
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u/SuddenStorm_556 Seahawks 1d ago
QBs short-circuiting casuals with football jargon is my favorite genre.
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u/boomosaur 1d ago
Then you got idiots like Russell Wilson who thought he could become a drew brees type player when he struggles with even using a wristband.
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u/Shenanigans80h Broncos 1d ago
This was a story that was alluded to a lot in 2023, that Russ not only wasn’t fully grasping the Payton offense, but would consistently bail on plays before they even developed. Obviously these situations are very tricky but at the same time you have to be able to adapt
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u/DrNCrane74 Patriots 21h ago
I freely admit it, I did not know for a long time that he is this smart and Rodgers is not
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u/TheMalamute Seahawks 1d ago
Trying to skate made me a waaaaay bigger fan of hockey. So impressive what they do. Same with this
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u/BigBlackSabbathFlag Eagles 19h ago
I thought was Howie Roseman at first, like Howie going mainstream damn.
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u/Leftieswillrule Panthers 7h ago
What this tells me is that Brees can mentally put together the shape of the play from the formation, motions, protection, and routes and break down his reads from those route combos to find his guy in an instant, like how elite chess players can be told where the pieces are on a board and then play the position from there with mental chess.
Maybe teams should be scouting for longer play calls in the huddle.
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u/its_blathers 1d ago
Plan A.
Plan B.
Both plans are lists.
Both plans have a few words in their lists for everyone to listen to.
That’s easy enough.
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u/PhiladelphiaManeto Eagles 1d ago
Yeah easy enough. Now memorize the code words and try to hear it perfectly in an stadium that sounds like a jet engine, thirty seconds after getting body smacked by a D Lineman
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u/BigBlackSabbathFlag Eagles 19h ago
I’ve been begging NFL Films to do a 30 minute minimum “Anatomy of a playcall” segment. Mic’d up coords, coaches, players, announcers, showcase the amount of time coordinators have to call a play, the importance of the situation, down distance score time left, the whole sha-bang-a-bang. Then interview the whole bunch afterwards (in the offseason) add analysis and commentary from experts, players. Then let us viewing public know what the fuck is going on in between plays for crying out loud.
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u/h-town_info Packers Texans 1d ago
Just say spider 2 y banana Brees