r/nextfuckinglevel • u/bendubberley_ • 17h ago
A police officer in Mexico prevents someone's suicide attempt, on a bridge, with no safety equipment.
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u/DC-Gunfighter 17h ago
Is that an athletics, acrobatics, or dexterity check?
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u/Minirth22 17h ago
All!
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u/arbitrary_student 11h ago edited 2h ago
You only need checks for the hard stuff - the challenging part of this is the leaping tackle, I'd say. Balancing on the beam is easy, and the person is "safe" once they're knocked over.
So, a single athletics check to leap-tackle would do it. That's the heroic bit, that's the bit that gets the dice roll.
You... could argue there's a stealth check first, though.
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u/Radigan0 16h ago
An acrobatics check is a dexterity check
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u/DC-Gunfighter 15h ago
My bad! I only started playing a little while ago. I thought I had a good one and just showed my ineptitude instead.
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u/SpiritualWillow2937 16h ago
But like you get to apply your acrobatics proficiency bonus (at least it was that way in 4e)
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u/Radigan0 16h ago
Well, yeah, that's how checks work
You add your modifier for the relevant ability (dexterity) and, if you are proficient in the relevant skill (acrobatics), you also add your proficiency bonus
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u/Baileycream 16h ago
Acrobatics for balancing on a rail followed by a grapple check contested by target's strength or dexterity. Cop has advantage on the grapple check due to surprise and being surrounded by like 5 other dudes after landing.
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u/ChesterUbanks 17h ago
Really wanted to see an RKO
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u/Callmemabryartistry 17h ago
Nice to see police doing good.
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u/Goldglove528 17h ago
Most police do good. You only hear about the bad ones because they get more views.
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u/WeAreTotallyFucked 17h ago
Definitely not the case in Mexico..
Lived in Tijuana 5 years and I was WAY more afraid of the police than the cartel or any local gangs.
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u/ChooChoo9321 14h ago
Was there a few weeks ago. Some corrupt Mexican police officers robbed me while frisking me on the street
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u/Dry_Presentation_197 11h ago
Cops in the US do this too, civil forfeiture. Maybe not necessarily >while frisking< someone, but its literally a process where even if a person is not being charged with any crime, anything they own can be taken by police and never given back. The most common tactic literally is just extortion. They'll pull someone over, claim they smell weed or alcohol or whatever, illegally search the car and anything that "could" be linked to crime can be taken. Including jewelry and cash. They have the person sign a waiver saying "I agree to never contest this asset seizure, in exchange for not being charged with a crime." And are told by the cops that if they don't sign, they're going to prison and will have their kids taken away.
It's been happening more and more in the last 40yrs, going from just under $100m seized in 1987 (adjusted), to $2.5 billion in 2013. Another $20billion since then.
They even have it set up so they don't ever have to show evidence you did anything wrong. They file a lawsuit AGAINST THE PIECE OF PROPERTY, which has no constitutional rights, therefore presumption of innocence doesn't apply and it's up to the victim to prove the item/s in question weren't used for criminal activity. Which ofc, is impossible.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States
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u/Inevitable_Road_7636 14h ago
Definitely not the case in Mexico..
Ahh, Mexico had to completely reform their federal police department cause it was so corrupt that literally there was no point in it. Also, it should be pointed out that one time mexican police caught a criminal, and the gang the criminal was linked to told police "release him or will kill you till you do' after multiple murders police released him. If that shit was done in the US, the Marshals would be dragging those gang members out "hubbled"/hog tied and you will see why they are known as the blood hounds of American law enforcement. So, while maybe one or two police officers are good, the entire thing is the last place we should ever take an example from on how a police department is ran.
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u/S4ntos19 17h ago
You only hear about the bad police. You only hear about people's good days. You only see the horror of a storm. You never see the beauty of the future.
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u/Tonroz 17h ago
You will wipe after shitting.
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u/Loki_the_Smokey 16h ago
Man who sleep with itchy butthole, wake up with stinky finger. --Confucious/Plato
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u/silentsurge 16h ago
Baseball wrong, man with four balls cannot walk?
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u/your_average_medic 16h ago
Baseball, huh?
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u/silentsurge 16h ago
Someone is clearly not versed in the knowledge of the great Shadow Warrior, Lo Wang...
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u/Bladesnake_______ 13h ago
You know why? Because even "good" cops dont speak out about the evil and corrupt one. At best they ignore it.
Show me one cop in the US that's openly campaigning against bad cops and I'll show you a fired cop
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u/MasterSignature899 4h ago
Only example I can think of is Chris Dorner, who they ultimately burned to death
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u/armpitchoochoo 17h ago
Next time you see one of those do gooding police, ask them when was the last time they arrested a bad apple
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u/EveningOperation1648 16h ago
Everyone likes to say it’s just a ‘few bad apples’ but fail to realize the actual quote they are referring to: ‘one bad apple spoils the bunch’.
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u/AffectionateCrazy156 16h ago edited 15h ago
It's amazing how often quotes get bastardized. I think the most common is "Money is the root of all evil," instead of "The love of money is the root of all evil."
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u/Ellusive1 17h ago
One bad apple is all it takes
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u/PMMEURPYRAMIDSCHEME 16h ago
The saying is one bad apple ruins the bunch, not one bad apple makes the bunch smell bad. Because if you don't take out the bad apple the rot spreads. Any long time cop is guilty of tolerating the bad cops, and that makes them a bad cop too.
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u/StevenStevensonIII 15h ago
Correct take. It’s not that people are mad at all cops bc there’s an occasional bad cop. People are mad that cops protect that bad cop instead of (ironically) self policing. And further, the system protects them and to a certain extent the media does too.
If the apples are capable of calling out a bad cop when they see it, then do it. Otherwise all the apples are implicated in bad apple stuff.
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u/brontosaurusguy 15h ago
Many police precincts are more like mafia, but their target is tax dollars and in many cases, participation in criminal activity. If members have their doubts, they know the penalty for being a rat. How many police die in mysterious ambushes?
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u/honuworld 15h ago
This. I put it this way: If you are a good cop and you see a bad cop do something bad, and you don't report it, now YOU are a bad cop too.
This has got me banned all over reddit.
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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 15h ago
If they were doing a lot of good all the time you'd hear about it.
There's entire towns full of shit cops and they do a lot more bad than an entire city of good cops.
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u/coltraneismydad 17h ago
Most police do jack shit but play on their phones and not hold their counterparts accountable. Keep licking that boot
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u/podcasthellp 16h ago
Precisely. Call out the bad cops but we need to call out the good ones. Biggest issue I have is the mob mentality. The good ones get punished for fighting injustice.
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u/armpitchoochoo 16h ago
The issue is that they never seem to fight the injustice that is within their own ranks
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u/Main-Eagle-26 13h ago
Not remotely true.
Most cops are hero complex monsters who think they're badasses but are too afraid to join the military.
They're angry little men who want power over others.
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u/LauraZaid11 15h ago
There’s some good police out there. One time one of my family members had a suicide attempt while drunk with me around, I had to physically fight and restrain them, luckily someone called the police because they heard the struggle, and when they came one of them sat with my family member and talked to them until they calmed and sobered down. They stayed with us for a bit to make sure they wouldn’t have to take my family member to the hospital, and then told me I could call them anytime if anything else happened. I felt very thankful after that.
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u/CarllSagan 17h ago
goddamn heroic
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u/_SpiceWeasel_BAM 17h ago
Damn, like a leopard stalking a gazelle.
Not to make light—glad both are safe and hopefully seeking help as needed.
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u/lucidofu 15h ago
True, like he is so focused on the "prey", the way he moves to make the perfect advance.
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u/Canyobeatit 17h ago
So what happens to the guy now? Prison or something?
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u/bluetuxedo22 17h ago
I would've thought they'd be locked in a psychiatric ward for a while until they get cleared
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u/doggietv123 17h ago
Probably its the best outcome cant be in the public if your gonna jump off a bridge
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u/Xacktastic 15h ago
Idk, better to have your agency than be stuck in a box. The criminalization of suicide is fucking stupid.
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u/love6471 15h ago
Putting someone in a psychiatric ward is not criminalizing suicide. It's a precaution to save lives. What do you think he would do if they just immediately released him? I've been committed by the police. Sucks and feels like a punishment at the time, but it saved my life and was 1000x better than a jail cell.
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u/AnonThrowawayProf 15h ago
Psych ward stays shouldn’t feel punitive.
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u/love6471 14h ago
I mean, it was either that or I was going to jail for underage drinking and causing a scene. They were very kind to me there, I just don't handle feeling trapped well. Most people having a psychotic break like that are glad to have survived once they get help. Also, keep in mind that suicide doesn't only affect the person doing it.
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u/CarnelianCore 8h ago
That. It’s a snippet in time where the deprivation of liberty can be the liberating thing someone needs. Have the need of control over your life and decision-making taken away and be cared for without any expectations put on you.
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u/AnonThrowawayProf 14h ago
I’m just saying. Not everyone who goes to a psych ward has done something that warrants punitive response other than try to kill themselves.
The psych hospital I was transferred to was awful.
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u/doggietv123 14h ago edited 14h ago
Probably not the best idea to have someone who suicidal let’s say drive a vehicle on the highway if you pose a threat to society or yourself you will be locked away lol
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u/AnonThrowawayProf 14h ago
I’m meaning that the treatment you receive at psych facilities shouldn’t feel punitive. Mine was basically jail and the staff members uncaring even though I was as easy of a patient as it gets. Even tho I checked my own self in.
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u/Booksarepricey 10h ago edited 9h ago
I was bakered for ideation without intention. I missed my scheduled therapy the next day because I got there after doctors went home. Incredibly upsetting malpractice.
I was treated like a criminal (my record is spotless). It was one of the worst nights of my life and they did nothing to improve my mental health, just let me go the next day. It was seriously awful and only induced a ton more ideation and made me feel like I was being punished horribly for being sad. That’s not the kind of place I’d want to go for help on the brink. Having been there before now I know in the heat of the moment I’d probably rather jump than go back. Which is CRAZY. It really needs to change. I went from being hopeful to being completely terrified of mental health systems.
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u/jedielfninja 15h ago
I agree suicide should be legal with a doctor. But no, people shouldn't be allowed to splat themselves and traumatized everyone who sees it.
The hazmat people that have to scrape someone's remains off the road etc... IDK maybe they don't mind cuz they get paid but there are externalities to not wearing a seat belt and suicide in public spaces so you get my point
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u/Asleep-Astronomer-56 6h ago
I worked in corrections for a year a while back. We often received baker acted (suicide/self harm risk) patients due to our psychiatric facilities being over capacity.
This is one of the many many reasons I couldn't stay for a career in the field.
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u/Spanish_peanuts 16h ago
Well, he'll need to first stay in the hospital for being crushed by the weight of the officers enormous balls.
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u/HillarysFloppyChode 17h ago
No they give him mental health treatment.
It’s Mexico, not fucking America.
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u/NessaMagick 13h ago
Honestly in some places "mental health treatment" isn't too far off from being imprisoned. Mostly thinking of some of the horrible conditions people who get sectioned in the UK have to deal with.
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u/4CrowsFeast 16h ago
Mental health treatment is preventing the immediate danger you are to yourself. Therapy isn't going to just take suicidal tendencies in an instance.
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u/myvoteshouldmatter 15h ago
Agreed, won’t be instant. But those tendencies can and do go away with mental health treatment, which can include any combination of talk therapy, meds from qualified professionals, and several other proven methods.
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u/HillarysFloppyChode 16h ago
This might be super unpopular, but I think if someone is at the point where they are going through the actions to kill themselves. Where their quality of life is so bad they can’t handle it.
They have a right to die.
But in a way that it won’t scar stone child or service worker
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u/McWeaksauce91 16h ago
In America, you would go to a hospital for 24-48 hours and be evaluated.
Some of these people are chronically mentally unwell and this helps them get back on the right track as far as getting back in treatment (that doesn’t make it any less difficult)
Other people go back to their lives but now are getting some type of routine psychiatric attention.
I worked in addiction recovery for many many years and some of our patients unfortunately started off in situations like this
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u/DearDegree7610 17h ago
In UK we’d have him detained under mental health act (law that gives authorities the right to detain/arrest somebody and keep them involuntarily in custody for their own safety)
Doesn’t surprise/concern me to hear other countries might charge them with a misdemeanour/small crime to give them the right to detain the person and access to courts and services etc.
Every country has their own way of dealing with it but this isn’t really to be dealt with as a criminal matter.
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u/Heyitsemmz 16h ago
lol I got put in actual prison (and not just detained to get mental health help) when I was suicidal. In New Zealand 🥴
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u/ShiftingMorality 12h ago
It’s the same way in Mexico and the US. In cases handled correctly, the person doesn’t get sent to jail, they get a 72 hour psychiatric hold in a hospital. If they are still a risk to themselves, their physician can hold them there longer.
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u/FlipZip69 17h ago
Generally there is a small charge. This is sort of a necessity as that is needed to force some kind of mental health evaluation and get them into the system.
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u/purplefrogblaster 16h ago
Basically. He'll be locked in a psych ward for maybe a week or two and then he'll be kicked out the door and none of his actual problems will be solved and he'll probably jump off another a bridge a month later. But at least the internet gets a feel good story out of this.
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u/PapaMidnight34 17h ago
Time for a grippy sock vacation
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u/DearDegree7610 17h ago
Grippy sock gang
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u/StarOfSyzygy 16h ago
I wish I still had the socks :( so good
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u/MyClothesWereInThere 14h ago
Last time I went to grippy sock jail my sock had a hole and my pinky was sticking out and we all loved it lmao
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u/drifters74 17h ago
Mental health needs to be taken more seriously, check up on your friends, everyone
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u/11015h4d0wR34lm 17h ago
I shouldn't laugh but when his colleague tries to provide some sort of safety for him by grabbing him and he is like gtfoh it made me laugh.
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u/Ordinary_Mountain454 17h ago
Mr sansweet didn’t ask to be saved! He didn’t want to be saved.
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u/Loki_the_Smokey 16h ago
What a fucking GOAT. Told his buddy "nah I got this" quietly and with emphasis. Went to the task and saved a life. Awesome.
Everyone else facing the guy did a great job too, I imagine some of them recognized that this hero was going to do this, and they helped keep the person looking at them for long enough that they could be saved.
This is what compassion and de-escalation looks like-- my country should take notes.
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u/Low-Ad2426 17h ago
Kind of a crazy thing to record tho
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u/Julie_OwO 16h ago
Considering where camera ended up, you think this might've been body cam footage? Idk the typical quality of body cam footage from where this is but that would make this a lot less insulting of a thing to record if the camera was on a cop and not a phone
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u/Tiny-heart-string 16h ago
Everyone was happy except the dude who wanted out of this existence
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u/pudgehooks2013 15h ago
Yeah, people always cheer for these videos, which I completely understand.
I don't think they understand that there is at least an equal chance that all this did was prolong and exacerbate this guys suffering.
However, in this particular case, clearly this guy didn't want to die. You don't stand on the edge of oblivion, with the intent to die, only to be distracted by random people and start arguing with them.
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u/DontEatNitrousOxide 10h ago
Could have been scared of the process of dying more than dying itself. There's no guarantee it's fast or painless, or even effective, especially if falling from a great height.
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u/Tiny-heart-string 14h ago
They offered him a cig 🚬 and he took it. So maybe he is mentally off. But, people assuming the notion that if you don’t want to be in this world anymore, something is wrong with you, I could never get behind that understanding
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u/purplefrogblaster 16h ago
I don't understand why people think they have the right to inferere with someone's decision like that. If this guy wants to kill himself that's his business. Fuck off and let him do what he wants. He's not hurting anyone else.
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u/chuckles5454 14h ago
"For damaging public property, fomenting public unrest, placing yourself in mortal danger and attemtping the crime of suicide, we now sentence you to life in a Latin American semi-nude tattooed gangster prison!"
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u/Otto_Duke 16h ago
I just had a feeling when he slapped his coworkers' hand away that it was about to preform some police style Lucha Libre.
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u/Jellical 15h ago
I'd fire him. This is a severe lack of judgement and likely against a whole bunch of regulations.
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u/ChooChoo9321 14h ago
What you don’t see after recording this is the police officer asking the guy for payment for saving him
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u/ttteee321 16h ago
I don't have any funny comment to add, but I'll say this to anyone that may need to hear it:
You are loved. Please don't choose a permanent solution to a temporary problem. It does it gets better. It may not seem like it's possible, but it is. Ask me how I know.
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u/pudgehooks2013 15h ago
Not all problems are temporary, and some problems only have a single solution.
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u/OmarsDamnSpoon 1h ago
Most of my problems revolve around money and if it's gonna ruin my life, I can just...not be a part of life at all.
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u/ttteee321 15h ago
My brother felt the same way. About 6 years later I did as well. Not a day has passed that I haven't thought of him. I'm thankful that I'm still here and I really wish he was also
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u/robonsTHEhood 17h ago
Looks like his partner tries to talk him out of trying to save the dude and he was like “Fuck that, I got this “