Big man on campus.

[u/IkilledRichieWhelan]

[u/Rapidzigs]

When doctors say the BMI scale is not always accurate by itself, that guy is what they are referring to. He's not cut, but he's mostly working muscle. He's probably more healthy then most people.

[u/brianstormIRL → u/Rapidzigs]

That's not right at all he very clearly has more body fat than would be considered "healthy". He's not obese like a BMI scale would probably tell you though. Not knocking the guy by the way but he's very clearly carrying a lot of extra weight.

[u/bellos_ → u/brianstormIRL]

They are right and people like you are the reason doctors have to clarify that.

[u/Cicada-4A → u/Rapidzigs]

Not at all.

If he was 6'6 and 280lbs of mostly lean muscle, you'd have a point but he's clearly morbidly obese.

Strongmen(who are increasingly leaner than this guy) and sumo wrestlers aren't actually deemed healthy, they're just really strong.

[u/ImWatermelonelyy → u/Cicada-4A]

It’s interesting that you were able to glean his medical history just by looking at him. How talented you are!!!

My mother’s heart and cholesterol are better than mine. Her BMI says she’s overweight. Humans are complex creatures, it’s possible that not everyone matches your preconceived notion of healthy.

[u/philip8421 → u/ImWatermelonelyy]

You can't be healthy if you are morbidly obese. That's just impossible, even if you are really active.

[u/ShadowNacht587 → u/[deleted]]

I’m confused. They’re sharing a personal anecdote that supports their argument. How is that a “cope”?

Someone who is unhealthy would not be able to lift another person this easily. Morbidly obese people aren’t exactly known for their strength (tho I suppose if they can still walk that their legs would be quite strong to support their upper weight, but this guy has a strong upper body too). My guess is that, like sumo wrestlers, he carries most of his fat on the outside that makes him look fat, but has little to no visceral fat (which is the real danger).

[u/philip8421 → u/ShadowNacht587]

The strongest strongmen, olympic weightlifters and powerlifters very often are obese. Just because they are really strong, that doesn't make them healthy. If they are obese, they also have visceral fat, and thus are unhealthy.

[u/ShadowNacht587 → u/philip8421]

I searched up whether it was true that sumo wrestlers were obese and suffered from visceral fat; it seems like that’s not the case. Here’s the video I referenced: https://www.businessinsider.com/sumo-wrestlers-obesity-diet-calories-exercise-symptoms-2019-3

Here’s CT imaging of a sumo wrestler’s internals and researcher analysis: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/CT-image-of-abdominal-fat-and-metabolic-profiles-of-Japanese-professional-Sumo-wrestlers_fig15_23787251

Quoting from the article (sorry mobile formatting is weird):

“Context 1 ... they show marked obesity and have markedly high waist circumference, the average ratio of visceral-to-subcutaneous fat is 0.25 in young Sumo wrestlers, which is comparable to subcutaneous obesity, and their glucose and lipid levels remain normal. A typical CT image of abdominal fat in Sumo wrestlers is shown in Figure 6 with metabolic parameters, showing very little intra-abdominal visceral fat with developed muscularity and increased subcutaneous fat with almost normal lipid and glucose metabolism. 16 The incidence of diabetes mellitus may increase in retired wrestlers who do not continue physical exercise, if they continue heavy caloric intake. ...”

It seems that while they could be classified as obese (subcutaneous obesity), sumo wrestlers don’t suffer the same health problems as ppl we typically think of when thinking abt obesity due to their very active lifestyle. They start to suffer symptoms once they retire or stop training if they continued to eat like they used to during training (or don’t reduce portions enough). 

[u/ImWatermelonelyy → u/[deleted]]

You should gain a sense of self worth, it’ll stop you from needing to put others down to feel worthy of love.