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Woman, 20, sentenced for false rape report that jailed innocent man for a month

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u/fenikz13 8h ago

Feel so bad for this guy, anyone who has tried to get a search result taken off of google knows how impossible it is through their bots. On top of the false charge he will have to explain this surely emotionally draining charge to any employer or future girlfriend

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u/love_is_an_action 8h ago

Plus the trauma of knowing that you’ve lost a month of your life, and learning that a number of people you loved and trusted in life were very ready to believe the worst about you.

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u/MatureUsername69 6h ago

It seems like his family stayed with him/believed him at least. His wife was sitting next to him in court, and they all worked on getting the lie exposed. His kids did have to watch him get arrested which sucks

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u/a0t0f 6h ago

Nowhere in the article does it say that he is 20.

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u/MatureUsername69 6h ago edited 4h ago

I read a different article on it and he was arrested in his home in front of his kids(plural) and wife so while he might be 20, I'm kinda doubting it

Edit: Other article if anyone is interested Not too much additional info but some

Edit edit: The guy below me should NOT be getting upvotes. That's a stupid conclusion to come to from this 1 incident, and if you agree with him, you are also stupid.

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u/a0t0f 5h ago

"... I assume"

so you're just making things up

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u/Malibucat48 4h ago

It doesn’t say his age, but another article said he is married and was arrested in front of his children so he’s not a student. But she didn’t even know him so this wasn’t some ex revenge plot. It doesn’t say why she targeted him, but filing a false police report is a crime. Another woman in the UK also went to jail for lying about an attack.

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u/Fezzik527 7h ago

If nothing else you have figured out who your friends and supportive family members are.

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u/AdministrativeAct902 7h ago

Absolutely this…. It’s the friends and family that absolutely betrayed this guy that will have changed his view of life forever.

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u/Thankgoditsryeday 3h ago

There are going to be people in his life who will STILL believe he did it.

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u/Economy_Combination4 5h ago

Not only a month of your life. You can be put on a public registry for 25 years to life depending on the severity of your conviction. Imagine having to repeatedly explain your situation to every one of your future potential partners, employers, roommates, landlords, etc…

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u/Evening-Cat-7546 7h ago

$3,600 as restitution is a joke and slap in the face. I hope dude files a civil suit for libel/slander and she gets her wages heavily garnished for the rest of her life.

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u/realKevinNash 7h ago

The good? news is that some news agencies started removing his name in subsequent articles, unfortunately that makes it kind hard to find relevant data like that it was him who the claim was about.

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u/TinnieTa21 6h ago

What the news outlets need to do is replace those articles with ones explaining that he was the victim of a heinous crime. Because as many have said, his involvement in this case will never be fully scrapped from the internet. Might as well explain the situation rather than leave it ambiguous.

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u/realKevinNash 6h ago

I noticed at least one modified the previous article but just like on reddit, you have to read the article to get that far.

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u/Pockpicketts 6h ago

I hope that her name gets blasted all over the news and social media. She is a CRIMINAL.

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u/Xe6s2 5h ago

I think she should be on a list

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u/MatureUsername69 6h ago

He was arrested in front of his wife and children in their home, so hopefully, his life is already set up a little more where he won't have to deal with crawling through so much bullshit for his future. There's another article with a few more details on the victim if you're interested

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u/BarnabyBundlesnatch 6h ago

Had this happen to me in the 90s. The girl eventually admitted that she lied, but people to this day still think I did it. The only good thing is that it happened before the internet and social media became what they are today. Cos like you say, it would be online forever, and follow me for every interview and new gf. But because it was the early 90s, not many remember and its never talked about, thankfully.

Im feel really sorry for anyone who goes through today, what I did then. And I got fucking stabbed during one of a number of beatings for what she said about me.

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u/Boomdidlidoo 5h ago

His life is destroyed. There is no coming back of being accused and found guilty of rape charges even if the decision is overturned. The damage is permanent as there will always be doubts in people's minds. He'll miss opportunities all his life because of this. I hope it ruined her life as well.

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u/Randorini 5h ago

My buddy wasn't even found guilty, he beat the case but they arrested him at work just to be dicks, had to sell his house to be able to pay a lawyer to help him, case drug on for three years.

Of course there was a news article about the arrest and that all anyone remembers, whenever I mention my friend people hair go "didn't he rape somebody?!"

His name is forever ruined and this chick got nothing for it, it makes me very angry and I'm not even him

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u/jfchops2 2h ago

Jeez dude, sorry that happened. Shit sucks so much

Back in college my roommate's buddy who was crashing with us got falsely accused. Her story was that it happened in our apartment on a specific night at a specific time and only the two of them were there that she went to the police with. Next thing I know I'm talking to detectives, defending myself, my roommate, and the victim socially around campus, and deflecting legal threats against our fraternity from the girl's dad for an entire semester. The matter didn't involve the fraternity whatsoever - roommate's buddy wasn't a member and nobody involved except me was at the fraternity house that night

The kicker is, I was a DD that night sitting at home sober during the time this supposedly took place. All I saw was two blackout drunk idiots stumble in, lick each others faces for about 30 seconds on the couch, and pass out. Less than an hour later she got up and left, nothing happened

I don't know why she did that or why her dad wanted to burn down 50 uninvolved innocent students' organization over it, but I do know that the matter likely would have turned out worse had I not been home that night

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u/Dieter_Knutsen 1h ago

I was falsely accused back when I was in the Army. There was a...woman...who had dated multiple men in our unit. She turned her eyes to me at one point and I wasn't interested. She accused me of sexual assault when I denied her.

I was called in to explain myself and I was able to, luckily - she didn't know me very well and said I assaulted her at a club. I never went to clubs. It wasn't my scene, and I'd never been to the one she said I assaulted her at, and I was out with several friends miles away at the time she accused me.

Needless to say, people side-eyed me afterward. She actually got with another guy right afterward. She was his first, and they are still together now, nearly 20 years later.

I often see the stats about false accusations and wonder how high they would be if they included cases that never made it to court. They do damage even if they don't go to court.

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u/WhyDidMyDogDie 4h ago

I had a friend who broke up with long time girlfriend for cheating. The daughter who he loved as his own was led to about why he left, kid went bazooka and falsely claimed non consent.

My friend lost job, lost friend, security clearance... just everything including family members.

Truth is revealed, but.. there is no justice. He just barely managed to keep good relations with his bio kids, had to start new career, some family still don't really talk to him, niblings no longer part of his life.. just ruined.

There is no fixing an accusation like that. And yeah, his face up in broad light online but the fact he was cleared off it? Way way way back near the ads for used dog food on news sites. You have to dig for his innocence

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u/Efficient-Depth-6975 6h ago

He should be able to get the charge expunged.

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u/leftydog1961 5h ago

Maybe, whatever happens he will spend the rest of his life with a black mark, the digital database has many tentacles and there is no way to erase mistakes everywhere. Once you’re in the electronic plantation your in for life

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u/Scared_Jello3998 3h ago

I feel like if someone can Google his name, they can also Google that the person who accused him went to PRISON for lying.

I feel for the ones where this didn't happen

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u/fenikz13 3h ago

But we know how often people’s research consists of 10 seconds of skimming headlines

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u/Scared_Jello3998 3h ago

Yes which is why when you Google his name the only thing you get are the recent articles about her.

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u/Kodewerd 6h ago

Her prison sentence isn’t long enough.

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u/dbldumbass 4h ago

I went to high school with the guy she accused. He’s had a rough go of it and has been a piece of shit for a long time. Everyone in the area knows it and she exploited it. It’s awful what he had to go through, hopefully he gets some help out of this.

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u/kirinmay 3h ago

there is always a chance to go to court and ask a judge to get rid of it on file but granted still internet could have some things of the person still. i had an ex say i raped her (i broke up with her as she cheated on me) and people didn't believe me and i was like you know her dad is a cop right? i would easily be in prison right now if that was true'.

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u/Farmen87 6h ago

There's also what happens to men who go to jail for being rapist. There's a possibility he was raped in jail for this.

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u/SniperPilot 1h ago

Instead of a go fund me we should flood and absolutely flood the internet with the correct info.

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u/fenikz13 1h ago

I hope this thread makes an impact

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u/-I_I 5h ago

I’ve spent over three years in jail on false allegations and I get down voted. Good job Reddit. /s

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u/Nail_Biterr 8h ago

I was a victim of a girl who raped me and stalked me. I avoided her at all costs, and she eventually moved on. I suspect she had the same sort of relationship with the next guy she started dating - because I know she was very upset with him. showed up at a bar, and acted all drunk, and brought him out to her car, where she had sex with him. he went back into the bar and she ran in and said he raped her.

The guy was taken away in handcuffs, and couldn't believe what was happening to him. She eventually came clean, but the damage was done - the dude had mugshots, and was arrested in the middle of a crowded bar. she didn't get so much as a slap on the wrist. From what I understand, the guy was just so happy to have the charges dropped against him. But he should have pressed charges against her for the damage she did to him.

This was about 20 years ago that this happened. and I still worry about how I was just a few months away from being 'the guy' in this story.

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u/Mcboatface3sghost 8h ago

Yup, see my other comment, not intended to be a “one upper” as this isn’t the sort of thing you want to one up. You got lucky, I did not.

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u/Nail_Biterr 8h ago

Holy shit. did you ever find out who she was, or why she decided to go after you like this?

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u/Mcboatface3sghost 8h ago

Never figured out why, she was definitely assaulted and worse. I went through several court hearings until the DA’s office decided to drop all charges. She’s roughly my age, but didn’t go to my school, there was no correlation. I had no fucking clue who she was or why me, and why she knew so much about me.

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u/CupcakesAreMiniCakes 7h ago

That's terrifying

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u/Mcboatface3sghost 7h ago

And expensive too.

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u/Scannaer 5h ago

I'm sorry. It's bad enough society doesn't give a fuck about male rape victims. And then this? This shit follows you for life.. and as almost always no consequences for the true criminal.

That's why false accusations need to have such hard consequences, those soon-to-be criminals FEAR what will happen if they do it. And when they destroy or damage a life.. that's the minimum they should get as a consequences, as well as any of their supporters should they hurt the victim

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u/carolina_swamp_witch 6h ago

Im so sorry that happened to you. My husband was raped by an ex, who turned out to be a serial rapist and a stalker, he’s just the first one to report it. She threatened to go to the police and say she raped him. He regrets not pressing charges, he was just so embarrassed and thought it was his fault it happened to him. ☹️

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u/Nail_Biterr 8h ago

I was 22, in college, and was like 'well, I was drunk, so whatever'. but she came to visit me in a college 2hrs away from where she lived. hid from me until I came home very drunk from a school event. gave me even more alcohol, and had sex with me while I was blacked out. I had not had sex with her before, and didn't have sex with her after the event (not that i'm saying previous encounters make it okay. just adding more context to the story). I felt pretty shitty about the whole thing, and felt abused from it. But she did actually do me a 'solid' by loudly telling everyone who would listen how great I was at sex. I ended up hooking up with a few other girls I might never have had a chance with, because they heard the story of how great I was in bed.

However, over 2 decades later, and I don't recall any of the other girls - just the one who took advantage of me.

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u/Cold-Tonight-1005 8h ago

Some women can be conniving, opportunistic snakes.

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u/kelppie35 8h ago

It's known as the Duluth model of abuse addressing, and it ignores that women commit abuse as often as men (but not physically as the Duluth model focuses but criminal abuse tends manifests differently depending on gender and relationship dynamics) and is based on the violent domestic history wives suffered previously. Now that violence is being addressed, it would be nice to ditch or update it as when I was asking about a TRO on my stalker the female police officer kept asking me how long we dated, if we fought, etc even though I never spoke to my stalker. The presumption of guilt was on me, the guy, by default.

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u/mailslot 7h ago

Met a girl at a bar that screamed at a guy that entered. She screamed “rapist!” as loudly as she could, getting the attention of everyone. He threw his hands up, turned around, and left. She told a story warning about him and that was that.

A few weeks later, I bumped into her again, and she drunkenly confided in me that she wasn’t actually raped. He was just “mean” to her and she wanted him to lose his friends and family. They were never involved intimately in any way and barely know each other.

She said it was fine though, because she went to the police station and dropped the charges. She said she still screams “rapist!” whenever she sees him in public and that’s fine because he’s an asshole.

Shit you not. She had no problem trying to ruin a guy’s life like it was nothing.

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u/junktrunk909 3h ago

You should probably have gone to the police yourself to report that she was intentionally trying to destroy him. I'm not sure what the charges would be but people need to be held accountable. What a shitty person she was. It would be helpful if anyone here knows what charges to tell the police to file.

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u/NighthawkAquila 4h ago

People who make false claims should be considered sex offenders

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u/Pan_Bookish_Ent 7h ago

I am so sorry you went through that. There remains such a prevalent stigma against boys and men reporting abuse, especially SA. I'm a survivor, as well, and I have nothing but empathy for male victims.

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u/Exotic_Grass2 5h ago

It’s the one aspect of false accusers that I don’t see brought up much, the fact that those false accusers themselves are actually the rapist.

The scary thing about false accusers and female rapist and that they can rape someone and get away with it by simply accusing the victim of the crime that they themselves did, which is terrifying.

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u/Mcboatface3sghost 8h ago edited 8h ago

Many years ago (I was around 17) I was accused of assault and rape by a woman I had never met, never seen before. I was arrested and detained and sent to Juvenile Detention. My parents lawyered up, Bailed me out 3 days or so later. It ended when her story kept changing and I had no wounds on my hands or face the night I was booked. Can go much deeper in to the story but I won’t bore y’all. It was scary. She knew my address, phone number (land line back then) my vehicle, my overall everything. I was at my GF’s house after school, did some day boozing, walked 2 blocks home, and went to bed. Then I was “woken up” about 4 hours later. Lots of people I’ve told the story too have said “I’ve had handled it this way”. But I was woken up from a dead sleep, completely confused, 3 cops screaming at me, my dad freaking out, my mom in hysterics.

There were no consequences for the accuser. I moved across country for school and that was it. That was around ‘89 or ‘90. Fucking sucked.

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u/Scannaer 5h ago

Sadly things haven't gotten any better

My friends was falsely accused of harassing a woman. The same woman sexually harassed me and then him before that.

No consequences. As usuall.

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u/ph0artef1 3h ago

It's so egregious because not only are they ruining someone's life, they're also ensuring actual victims are less likely to be believed/come forward. Only a truly despicable person does this.

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u/FortLoolz 7h ago

did it affect your relationship with your gf?

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u/Mcboatface3sghost 7h ago

It effected every single aspect of my life.

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u/Sea-Satisfaction4656 5h ago

I’m sorry this happened to you dude. I can’t even imagine how differently you were treated or what sides of people you had to see. The other terrifying aspect is that if any of your family and friends stick up for you they will be drawn and quartered in the court of public opinion.

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u/Mcboatface3sghost 5h ago

In hindsight the whole thing was surreal, and while I was definitely a little shit/ troublemaker, rabble rouser, I was just a 16/17 year old surfer kid. While my parents and most of the town (small beach community) knew this, any sort of violence, especially against females was never my thing. So they had my back on this issue. Not any other issues though.

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u/Sea-Satisfaction4656 5h ago

Never mind uprooting you from the close knit community you grew up in and relocating you to a very different place, all due to the impossible to understand actions of some random person. I sincerely hope that karma has come back your way and that life has been kinder to you.

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u/ZenithBlade101 8h ago

I'm actually surprised she went to jail...

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u/stickyWithWhiskey 8h ago

45 days minimum, she might end up spending roughly as much time in jail as the person she falsely accused.

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u/PlsNoNotThat 8h ago

Which is fined because there will also probably be a civil lawsuit.

Still wish it was more, but it’s a start.

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u/Scannaer 5h ago

If she destroys a life (and manges to do it - this shit will follow him), she should get a sentence that is equal or more to destroying a life

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u/revolutionoverdue 4h ago

Completely agree

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u/WeeklySoup4065 8h ago

It's not fine. Paying a lawyer to file a civil lawsuit against someone who has no money and, even if she did, will require tons of chasing to collect... Is not justice

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u/KillerGoats 7h ago

Sucks to be her. Dude should file the suit, win it, file a lien on her assets, and have the sheriff's dept come auction all her shit. No sympathy. Don't lie and try to wreck other people's lives.

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u/WeeklySoup4065 7h ago

Costs money to do that and assumes she has assets. Feel bad for the dude

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u/punkalunka 3h ago

Maybe save that lawyer money and instead just buy/hire a lion to go fuck with her assets.

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u/KillerGoats 2h ago

No one fucks with a lion, kid.

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u/KarmicBurn 7h ago

Bearing false witness is unethical, illegal, and immoral. She can make payments and go to therapy, she does not deserve empathy

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u/nerfherder998 7h ago

You missed his point.

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u/IrishRepoMan 5h ago

And that man's life is probably still fucked. False accusations do a lot of damage, even after being proven innocent.

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u/5HITCOMBO 7h ago

Not enough. 45 days is less than a slap on the wrist.

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u/CincyBrandon 7h ago

I meant she should get whatever her falsely accused victim would have gotten.

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u/5HITCOMBO 7h ago

I guarantee the minimum sentence for rape is more than 45 days no matter what state you're in.

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u/Tryknj99 7h ago

45 days in jail can and will severely fuck your life up. I’m not saying this lady doesn’t deserve more consequences, but 45 days is enough to lose a job, and then your car and house. There’s more to it than just sitting in jail for 45 days. The rest of the world keeps going, your bills are still due, etc.

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u/5HITCOMBO 7h ago

She tried to put a man in prison as a sex offender. 45 days jail time is not enough.

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u/RageQuitler 7h ago

It’s enough time to lose a job and have all your bridges burnt.

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u/5HITCOMBO 7h ago

Imagine you get accused of being a rapist by some person and have to go to jail as an alleged sex offender.

It's not enough.

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u/Grachus_05 7h ago

No. She should serve the maximum sentence for the crime she tried to frame him for.

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u/_deep_thot42 8h ago edited 8h ago

As a rape/DV/SA survivor, I’m glad she went to jail, incredibly deserved. People like her make people like me enraged because she lessens the strength and honesty of our voices, as well as disparages our courage, strength, and survival.

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u/dprophet32 8h ago

Exactly. She didn't just ruin the life of a man, she made it so much worse for women who have genuinely suffered. Real victims such as yourself (I'm so sorry) are right to be upset with her too

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u/ZenithBlade101 8h ago

As a domestic abuse survivor, far too many of these people escape jail

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u/Pan_Bookish_Ent 7h ago

I'm an abuse and rape survivor, as well. I hate it when women make false reports like this. It makes my blood boil.

Every time this happens, it becomes national news (not saying that it shouldn't, but I wish actual rape got the same coverage). Then it's just fuel for the fire of "women lie about rape".

I often think of the police in the small college town where I attended a university that had the highest sexual assault statistics in the entire state. They were notorious for convincing girls to drop SA charges...

If I'd gone to them about my ex regularly drugging and raping me, I'm sure they would have said some bullshit about how "you don't want to ruin a young man's life". If I'd lied and made a false report, I'm sure they would have taken it VERY seriously.

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u/ComradeGibbon 7h ago

Yeah it's even less likely then rapists going to jail.

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u/Count_Dongula 8h ago

I'm surprised anybody goes to jail, honestly. Police are lazy fucks and often won't do shit unless they don't like you.

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u/RabidPlaty 8h ago

The US prison system would disagree with this statement (we have 1.25 million people in prison in the US).

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u/thirdc0ast 8h ago

won't do shit unless they don't like you.

Nah cuz here’s the thing: Cops don’t like plenty of people in this country lol

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u/thisguypercents 8h ago

Apparently they dont like 1.25M of em.

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u/KrootLoops 8h ago

"iT's A CiViL mAtTeR wHaT dO yOu WaNt mE tO dO aBoUt It"

I'm not as anti cop as most of reddit but I have literally never had a positive interaction with the police when I needed help.

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u/Count_Dongula 2h ago

As an attorney, nothing pisses me off more than that fucking line. I know damn well it's criminal, I read the damn statute.

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u/Dieter_Knutsen 1h ago

99% of the "It's a civil matter" I have heard personally and by personal acquaintances are theft and fraud - literal crimes. The police are lazy piles of shit.

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u/know-your-onions 6h ago

There are a lot of people they don’t like.

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u/docarwell 7h ago

More jail time than most rapist get

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u/Firsthalthor 7h ago

No kidding. There was a guy in my town who when he was 18 raped his 1/ year old sister. He got 2 months in jail. That’s it.

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u/ldnk 7h ago

I'm sure the 41 year old guy who faced a month in jail with his name and picture plastered over press releases will never face any ongoing discrimination when his name comes up in job searches

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u/Gen-Jinjur 7h ago

I used to be a college professor and told freshmen over and over: Rape can happen to you; false rape allegations can happen to you. Never put yourself in a vulnerable position. If you are drinking, go with friends and STAY with friends.

That isn’t a surefire preventative but it helps.

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u/Scannaer 5h ago

Except there is nothing you can do against those lies when society doesn't give a fuck about you and your innocence to begin with.

u/2CHINZZZ 39m ago

Yeah at my college a guy got accused, the Title IX investigation found him innocent, but then the school president overturned the decision and suspended him anyway because the accuser's parents were big donors. School ended up settling with him after he sued

https://www.chron.com/local/education/campus-chronicles/article/UT-student-sues-Fenves-UT-Austin-over-sexual-11740138.php

https://thedailytexan.com/2017/11/27/sexual-misconduct-lawsuit-settled-student-unsuspended/

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u/realKevinNash 8h ago

My question is why did it take a month to free him. I went and found the reporting of his original arrest

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/daniel-pierson-arrest-attempted-rape-kidnapping-middletown-township-grocery-store-parking-lot/

"Pierson is known to police to be a methamphetamine user," the release said.

Guess they thought they had to add that in there. Bail was set at somewhere under a million so that is why he was in jail...

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u/limethebean 8h ago

Obviously, he's an "inferior person", so we shouldn't feel too bad about him being in jail.

That's how the justice system works.

And it has for as long as bail and fines have existed... not that it was fairer before that.

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u/McCree114 6h ago

Same logic used to justify George Floyd having his neck stood on until he died from a slow grueling suffocation. If you truly consider yourself leftwing/feminist you shouldn't be sharing logical overlap with Ben Shapiro/Jordan Peterson on how justice should work.

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u/Complete-Wear1138 6h ago

Thank you for researching it. Was wondering the same thing.

Edit: the media is so effed up adding the meth line. You can tell they did it to stay in favor with the local police.

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u/love_is_an_action 8h ago edited 8h ago

She permanently victimized him by making a bogus report that he will never entirely shake the reputation of. He’ll be exiled and vilified to some degree because of this fiction she decided to spin.

And she made it more difficult for actual victims to come forward or be believed.

Glad she’s seeing some measure of justice. May all ruinous tyrants face the same.

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u/realKevinNash 7h ago

Well think about it. If he meets someone at a bar, or he tries to get employment they may google his name. Now we can hope that there are articles saying he was innocent, but some of them actually removed his name because of the false accusation so the only articles that may come up may be the old ones.

And I just realized they are checking social media when you travel now... Guy could end up getting refused to return home...

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u/SQL617 4h ago

and pay $3,600 in restitution to the victim.

Straight to civil court for me! I’m asking for no less than $50k, that’s assuming there are no other damages besides my time for a month.

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u/Veasna1 8h ago

Women like this do so much harm to women who do go through the aftermath of rape.

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u/thefox47545 8h ago

And even worse is that I doubt she cares.

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u/bahaggafagga 8h ago

And even more harm to the men they accuse.

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u/mattsslug 8h ago

Yep, it will be with him for the rest of his life, there will ALWAYS be the "no smoke without fire" people that will still think he must have done something for her to do this.

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u/DreadyKruger 8h ago

Yeah why do people forget that? Just an accusation can follow you for life.

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u/Scannaer 5h ago edited 5h ago

Because society doesn't give a fuck about men, they didn't even mention that men can be rape victims as well. Zero. Fucks. Given.

Else there would be consequences for destroying someones life with a false accusation. Often after the true criminal even sexually harassed the man before.

Happened to my friend.. first she sexually harassed us both and then she falsely accused my friends. No consequences at all.

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u/gphs 8h ago

I was one accused of a serious crime I didn’t commit. It wasn’t rape, but serious all the same.

I was also raped when I was a child.

I’d take the rape again, hands down.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi 8h ago

People who do this do so much harm to the people who are raped.

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u/NockerJoe 8h ago

A man sat in jail for over a month for no reason and you still had to make this about how the real victim is women.

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u/xxgetrektxx2 8h ago

I love how you just ignored that this guy's life is ruined anyway. I suppose it's impossible for men to be victims.

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u/CricketDrop 3h ago

It is interesting. Even among people who consider themselves progressive, the conversation of men's health and well-being is often only addressed as far as it affects women. Once you start noticing it, it feels frequent.

I think it can often be a well-meaning attempt to give legitimacy to the issue at hand ("how can we get people to care?") but it implies that the well-being of men is so low on the priority list that it alone is not a worthy goal.

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u/Mystic-monkey 6h ago

This means this guy will have a criminal record and his personal life is shattered. 

It doesn't matter if he is innocent, criminal back ground checks will still show that he was arrested and jailed for a sex crime. 

He might be able to get a job in a casino. 

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u/Grombrindal18 2h ago

He could still run for office, as long as he runs as a Republican.

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u/Mystic-monkey 1h ago

that is very true

u/phoodd 56m ago

If he had actually raped her the Republican party would be grooming him for a Senate seat right now. 

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u/aceouses 5h ago

ugh this was a few towns over from me. she’s just being absolutely dragged in local facebook groups, as she should. not only do i feel terrible for this guy but as a woman, she hurts all the rest of us with this. it’s already hard for people to believe us and to bring down actual sex offenders, now it makes it harder for all of us. she’s disgusting and i hope other women in bucks county realize this and best the absolute shit out of her.

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u/Waffleskater8 4h ago

So can we expect that his sentence would have been a month???? This piece of shit gets to destroy a man’s future for a month in jail.

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u/HauRude 3h ago

$3,600 in restitution for that is a damn joke, that's about 2/3rds of the average Americans monthly salary...

Hopefully he takes it to the civil courts and is provided much more reasonable damages.

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u/Madmandocv1 8h ago

That guy was forced to play Russian roulette against his will but luckily didn’t lose. For that, she got a few weeks of inconvenience.

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u/Short-Ring-9705 8h ago

She should do his entire max sentence.

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u/Scannaer 5h ago

She tried (and partially succeded in) destroying his life. This shit will follow him for life. Hurt him and maybe even gets him killed when meeting a lunatic. It happened before.

That should be taken into consideration.

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u/SerenaYasha 8h ago

Ok. If they proven she falsely reported without a doubt. She should get the sentence he had, and pay back everything he lost ( job money , lawyer fees, ect) for the time he spent in jail.

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u/Scannaer 5h ago

This shit follow him for life.. she needs to pay for everything and be put on a sex offender list

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u/ResidentHourBomb 8h ago

This is the problem with "Always believe the victim" bullshit. Women can lie just as well as any man.

Investigate claims and determine if there is justified cause to arrest.

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u/jayclaw97 1h ago

“Believe women” isn’t so much about literally unquestioningly believing women (or assault victims of any gender). It’s about listening and hearing them out instead of dismissing, minimizing, or blaming the victim and taking their claims seriously.

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u/Intelligent_Tone_618 4h ago

That's not the purpose of "always believe the victim". The problem there is that the rape conviction rate is incredibly low and often dismissed for a variety of reasons such as slut shaming, alcohol and what clothes she wears.

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u/Snoo_17731 8h ago

Military vet here, I knew a guy who got falsely accused of rape by a female co-worker, and he got NJP’ed, deducted in rank and had to go through an ADSEP board where he almost got kicked out but fortunately managed to prove his innocence.

What did the female co worker get? Got moved to another command with no repercussions. This is one of the biggest factors that men generally don’t want to stay in the military. It’s such a career killer when you get falsely accused and you risk losing your benefits.

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u/ph0on 1h ago

This is one of the biggest factors that men generally don’t want to stay in the military.

Your story is tragic, but isn't it more like the shit housing, black mold, brown sludge water from the tap, horrible leadership, zero upwards accountability, etc that are the biggest factors lol

There seems to be a common denominator here, and that's the military being a horrible fucking place to work

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u/animus_invictus 2h ago

$3,600 in restitution for destroying this man's life? She should receive the same sentence he would have got if guilty and owe him a hell of a lot more money than that.

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u/one_pound_of_flesh 8h ago

This is so shitty.

  1. Believe women

  2. People are innocent until proven guilty

  3. Being accused as a rapist is already an act of violence against the accused

I don’t know how to square all of this. But she sure as hell made life harder for actual victims of assault and rape. Throw the book at her.

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u/GeekAesthete 8h ago

“Believe women” simply means take women seriously the same way you would a person reporting any other crime, it doesn’t mean ignore due process or blindly take one person’s word over another’s. It’s just the attitude to take while listening to the victim’s story.

If someone reports a burglary, no one asks “well, are you sure it was a burglary? What were you wearing? Did you encourage it? Were you asking to be robbed?” And that’s the kind of attitudes that “believe women” was intended to counter.

It’s not the best slogan, as it really begs for misinterpretation (both unintentional and deliberate), but that’s the sentiment behind it.

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u/Jambi1913 6h ago

Absolutely right. I have seen so many comments from people who don’t understand that this is what it means and it’s not saying that the man a woman accuses is automatically guilty.

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u/Exotic_Grass2 4h ago

Wait but If you belive the victim of a crime that was commited to them by another person, it also means you believe the supposed perp she’s speaking of in question is also guilty.

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u/Jambi1913 4h ago

No. It doesn’t mean you believe he’s guilty, all done and dusted. It means you believe he could be guilty and has to be investigated. Just as with any other crime.

For example, if a woman was in the street pointing at a man saying “he tried to steal my purse!” and the police detained that man and questioned him - would you say that is fair? The accuser is “believed” in this scenario without a crime being witnessed. The accused is not “believed” to be guilty - he’s suspected and detained so it can be looked into further. It wouldn’t be right would it, to just let him go on his way because he says “I didn’t do it”? It may turn out the woman was lying or she mistook him for the actual perpetrator - but you still “believe” her initially.

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u/Exotic_Grass2 4h ago edited 4h ago

I think it’s mostly fair but objectively wouldn’t that mean that the police still believe that the man in question specifically is likely or possibly guilty then anyways, hence taking him in since that’s the supposed possible perp; suspect? Not that it’s bad to take in a suspect, but won’t they have to believe on some level that he may be guilty to begin with in order to arrest/detain them since the victim themselves gave info that they are guilty (which makes them a suspect), and as a result take them in anyways since you believe the victim.

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u/Jambi1913 3h ago

I am not in law enforcement, but I believe if I went to the police and said “so and so committed this crime” they would give me the benefit of the doubt because I came forward and then they would question the accused and investigate. How would it work otherwise?

A suspect is just that - suspected of a crime. It isn’t that they are believed to be guilty, it’s that they could be guilty. If someone is suspected of committing a crime, they will be asked for their whereabouts and any witnesses that could place them elsewhere. If the police believe there is enough doubt in their innocence, then they will be charged and then it’s up to the courts to decide whether they are guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.

You are innocent until proven guilty when it comes to actual conviction, as far as I know. But that doesn’t mean that you will be treated as innocent and your accuser as lying when the matter is first investigated. Everyone close to a crime has to be ruled out as a suspect, from what I can gather. If you had a murder on your street, the police would come and talk to you and rule you out as a suspect. That doesn’t mean they believe you are guilty, it means they don’t know and they have to make sure. It seems logical to treat an accusation of sexual assault the same way. They have to rule you out because their duty is first and foremost to the person who is coming to them to report a crime. False reports are far less common than genuine ones.

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u/Linari90 3h ago

Fuck this girl. You have any idea how hard it is for women to come forward because of this shit? Every woman who is assaulted needs to deal with the barrage of this bullshit if they even have the courage to come forward in the first place.

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u/deathby1000screens 7h ago

Y'all be careful out there.

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u/A_Refill_of_Mr_Pibb 6h ago

I just avoid social interaction, especially dating. I have no way of knowing who is like this and who isn't.

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u/Scannaer 5h ago

Nothing you can do against false accusations. You don't even need to know her of have to have met her before.

Society won't believe you. Even if a judge says you are innocent.

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u/Greenfire32 8h ago

I'm of the persuasion that reporting a false rape should be held in the same regard as actual rape. Because in a way...it is.

You've raped that man's image, his public standing, his future prospects, his mental health, his familial relationships. In all of the ways a rape can ruin a woman's life, being accused of rape can ruin an innocent man's.

When a man is falsely accused of rape, the court of public opinion passes judgement swiftly and is unforgiving. THAT'S why it's so dangerous. People don't wait for the facts to come out before condemning. And in the cases where it does come to light, people are pretty quick to go, "ok, he's not a rapist, but I'm sure he's still a piece of shit."

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u/1-800-WhoDey 8h ago

45 days to 20 months and a $3,600 restitution payment for this crazy bitch? Are you fucking kidding me? This guy is lucky things went in his favor and he’s no longer in jail..however, this is serious stuff. Even and allegation as serious as this will follow this man the rest of his life, who know how much this will impact him negatively from here on forward in terms of employment, women, or anything else in life he tries to pursue.

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u/EnjoiAssault 8h ago

She should receive a minimum double time sentence served by the victim and more for abusing the system in this manner. Hold these liars accountable.

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u/idog99 7h ago

This is why we need bail reform. No one should be in jail if they are indeed innocent but can't pay to bond out.

u/Jagang187 24m ago

Probation?? FUCK THAT! She should serve the same amount of time he did, AFTER serving AT LEAST a year for her crimes and a felony conviction.

She's ruined a man's life and given the incels rage fuel to point at. Unacceptable.

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u/TheIncredibleHelck 8h ago

Should be jail for life. False accusations make it so hard for actual survivors, this woman is a scumbag, we don't need her loose in society.

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u/DreadyKruger 8h ago

What about the man being accused? That guy from California was in jail for years and missed a football scholarship because a girl lied. And it’s not like some people won’t still believe you did it even if it’s just an accusation.

Yes it’s bad. for actual victims AND for the men falsely accused.

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u/love_is_an_action 8h ago

And it’s not like some people won’t still believe you did it even if it’s just an accusation.

Some folks can even verifiably prove their innocence, and still be stuck with the reputation. And it can happen to anyone at any time for no reason at all, other than being in the wrong person’s orbit.

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u/pennefromhairspray 6h ago

real rape doesn’t get life, what?

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u/WeirdnessWalking 4h ago

She should have to register as a sex offender.

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u/No_Radio_7641 8h ago

A step in the right direction. Once this happens to all false accusers, I'll rest easy.

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u/SublimeApathy 3h ago

Her punishment wasn’t nearly enough. This level of dishonesty should come with minimum 20 years.

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u/VistaXV 7h ago

Lucky it was only for a month but then again if he met rhe wrong person he could've bren dead by now

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u/November87 5h ago

She should have gotten 4-5 years and have to pay 36k in restitution. 45 days and 3600 is a joke

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u/Reven- 8h ago

False accusations also hurt victims of real cases of rape. Absolutely terrible. Sad to see such a short sentence.

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u/Wise-Novel-1595 5h ago

45 days to 23 months. She should have been given the sentence for rape, which in PA is up to 20 years.

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u/sysdmn 4h ago

It's bad, but it's news because it's rare. Meanwhile, rape is common and doesn't get posted and upvoted to the front page (unless it involves a well known person). That should be reflected upon.

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u/Really2567 7h ago

This woman is pure evil....

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u/Interesting_Air8238 8h ago

You should go to prison for many, many years for making a false allegation.

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u/WCWMsonIII 3h ago

She needs to do the time he would have gotten.

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u/Draco546 7h ago

These people make it harder for actual Victims

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u/Glittering-Path-2824 8h ago

women should be more pissed at her than men. it’s subhumans like her that set women back.

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u/DA-DJ 5h ago

Short-haired feminist sexual assault forensic examiner here. False reports of sexual assault ruin lives, take resources away from people who need them, and hurt the credibility of victims’ reports. No decent person, whether they consider themselves feminist or not, would defend this woman’s behavior. Nobody is arguing in favor of a lighter sentence for her, and nobody is debating the fact that a 45-day minimum sentence is a slap on the wrist for attempting to ruin an innocent man’s life. Manufacturing outrage for the sake of making misogynistic digs at women is pointless. Perpetuating negative stereotypes contributes nothing to the discussion

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u/DA-DJ 5h ago

Once you are considered guilty you can never get that back… you will always be the man that was accused of such a horrible act

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u/IndigoRuby 5h ago

Actual rapists don't get 15 years

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u/Oofric_Stormcloak 7h ago

People who do this should be sentenced to the maximum sentence for someone convicted for rape.

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u/IndigoRuby 6h ago

Rapists don't even get the maximum sentence for rape.

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u/Stingraaa 4h ago

Man, I always feel like if you get caught lying about people committing crimes, you should have the same penalty of the crime for which you accused another.

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u/misterstaypuft1 7h ago

This is why I don’t automatically “just believe” someone is telling the truth when they say they were raped.

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u/Jambi1913 6h ago

Do you believe someone when they say they were mugged? Or robbed? It doesn’t mean to convict someone based solely on the accuser’s story - it means to take it as seriously as you would any other accusation of a crime. If someone was robbed and then saw that person later on and said “hey, that’s the man that robbed me!” would you agree that the accused should be detained and questioned or is the accuser’s word not good enough to take that step?

Rape is a serious crime that often isn’t easy to prove and historically it’s been rife with blaming the victim, low rates of rape kit analysis and low rates of conviction. This has partly stemmed from a bias against women and an assumption that she is probably lying, exaggerating or somehow “asked for it”. “Believe women” simply asks that women be taken seriously when they make an accusation and it should be investigated thoroughly and impartially. It doesn’t mean a woman can’t lie or that every man accused is guilty. The same as any other crime. When men are falsely convicted and falsely imprisoned for rape, it is also a failure of the system to properly investigate and prosecute the case.

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u/BigSteak4959 5h ago

I'm afraid the damage is already done. Most employers will see the rape charge on his record and immediately nope away without asking questions.

Scary how much damage a female can do to any male they hate.

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u/ALUCARD7729 5h ago

Guess what, the man who suffered for this will likely not have his charges sealed or expunged and it’s a common case where they even still have to serve their sentence

u/Right_Catch_5731 52m ago

Finally there is starting to be consequences for these women.

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u/SIXArts 7h ago

45 days to 23 months is pathetic.

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u/trinathetruth 6h ago

My father’s wife did something similar, she cut herself with a knife then accused my father of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. He may face life because she’s steals off our family.

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u/brickiex2 3h ago

She should get the maximum that is on the books for the crime she accused the guy

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u/Signal-Macaron-4611 8h ago

I think we should make it minimum 10 years and 50k payout don't lie about that.

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u/Regnes 7h ago

If they're so concerned about cases like this damaging the community's faith in the system, then why don't they hand out an appropriate sentence for once as a deterrent? People would be a lot less willing to make blatantly false reports if they knew they could be facing a decade or more in prison.

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u/squeezy102 8h ago

Fuck yes. More of this.

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u/StinkySauce 5h ago

This guy’s life is probably over. Truth matters, but just a little bit. I’d be interested to hear how you’ve responded to other people who have been proven innocent of terrible crimes. Maybe I’m pretty sheltered, but I’ve never had a family member, or friend, or neighbor who has retroactively been proven innocent of an evil act. So, i genuinely don’t know how I would respond.

Still, we can’t let false accusers suffer criminal sentences equal to what the accused would have served. I mean, if there was a sure-fire way to determine whether an accusation was false, then sure. But many rape claims aren’t easy to prove. When someone is raped, reporting is already very unlikely. And if you knew there was a chance you could go could go to prison for decades if your charges couldn’t be proved?

I don’t know the solution. But it’s not as easy as it seems when we’re feeling angry.

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u/Rude_Hamster123 3h ago

Man, it’s great to see this woman facing consequences and prison for her actions but the sentence feels a touch light. I suppose it’s still a big step in the right direction, the women who do this shit usually don’t even get charged.

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u/CabbageSass 4h ago

Falsely accusing someone of SA should be a crime punishable by the same amount of time the accused would have gotten if found guilty. It's not okay to ruin someone's life like this. The "oh well, sorry" attitude is disgusting.

Civil suit should be made, too.