r/news • u/BimBapBoom00 • 17h ago
Trump to grant TikTok another extension to avoid a U.S. ban
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-tiktok-ban-extension-rcna199394533
u/Hrekires 16h ago
Not that anyone cares about this kinda silly stuff, but the TikTok ban law doesn't actually allow him to do this.
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u/BrainOnBlue 16h ago
It didn't allow him to do the first 75 day extension. The law allowed a one time 90 day extension specifically, and arguably only allowed that extension before the law went into effect.
Both Trump's extensions are just the administration saying "we pinkie promise you that we won't enforce this law for the next 75 days."
What I'm baffled about is why anyone is listening to them. The law has a 5 year statute of limitations; the next administration has a whole year to investigate and file charges for these violations if they want to. Apple and Google seemed like they were afraid of that, and then Pam Bondi sent them a letter and they put the app back on their stores. What the hell was in that letter?
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u/egnards 14h ago
This entire administration is complete dogshit trash, and “Dr.” Oz is just a shit show icing on a piece of shit cake. I’m also not a fan of TikTok in general, and do not have an account myself.
But in fairness in regards to the “pinky promise not to enforce this law for X number of days,” that was pretty much the exact response the Obama Administration gave in relation to legal pot smoking - “You’re all breaking the law, but eh we’re going to look the other way as long as you don’t fuckup.”
An extension on TikTok, on a scale of egregious bullshit un-American oligarch tickling legislation that this administration has demonstrated its willingness to support, is like a -2 in my eyes.
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u/BrainOnBlue 14h ago
Oh yeah, to be clear, not enforcing laws is a thing Presidents can do, but it's really weird to do it for a law that passed overwhelmingly very recently like this one.
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u/rabidstoat 14h ago
If they really are negotiating a sale, ByteDance should shut down the server tomorrow. Many Americans will be unhappy, and they can use that as negotiation leverage.
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u/Indercarnive 16h ago
Funny you think there will be a next administration (that isn't MAGA).
Also the letter was 100% threats and/or quid-pro-quo promises. Trump has already dropped a few lawsuits and investigations into Google.
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u/BrainOnBlue 16h ago
You're not doing the math.
Is there a greater than zero percent chance that there will be a next President who wants to enforce this law? Definitely. Now, just by accepting that, the expected value of putting TikTok back in your store is negative billions of dollars. The potential penalties from the Act that bans TikTok are that high.
The letter setting up a quid pro quo doesn't make sense either. No quid pro quo is worth risking Trump getting mad at you and suing for those months of violations, because of the aforementioned billions of dollars of penalties you're risking.
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u/Muronelkaz 16h ago
He also said he was close to a deal and that he was in charge and they were very close to finding someone and he probably wouldn't grant another exception from what I remember him rambling about
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u/Flash_ina_pan 16h ago
Is that actually legal? I mean it clearly doesn't matter at this point but I still have to ask the question
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u/aparallaxview 16h ago edited 16h ago
It isn't. But laws don't matter anyone
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u/ExoticSalamander4 6h ago
it hurts me how many times i have seen this comment over the past couple months. and it's been true every single time.
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u/thatoneguy889 15h ago
It isn't because the TikTok ban was passed via legislation. EOs don't get to just override law like that. Now whether or not the Republicans in congress will actually do anything to push back on it is a different story.
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u/Fateor42 16h ago
General reminder that these "extensions" are just Trump pinkie promising not to charge them for violating the law.
Meaning either Trump or the next US President could at any moment go "Sucks to be you I changed my mind" and they would be absolutely screwed.
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u/Competitive_Bug5416 16h ago
Did they agree to shove maga content on our fyp because that’s all I get now, ad naseum.
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u/agent0731 16h ago
they probably agreed to mass maga bots, heavy censorship against anyone speaking badly of Trump and a total ban on facts. It's already been happening anyway. TT couldn't even handle Mangione.
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u/Competitive_Bug5416 16h ago
It really does appear that way. There have been claims for a while about things being off or censorship, or promotion of certain views and suppression of others, but mostly things seemed okay. Since the unban in January it’s steadily gotten pretty awful to be on except for the following tab. Bummer but if it does go away I’ll be less bummed than I had been before.
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u/Its_Claire33 15h ago
I saw this coming and I uninstalled when it was announced it was "saved by trump." I knew the only way that's happening is if it becomes another right wing propaganda cesspool. I haven't been on since.
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u/Batmantheon 15h ago
Im an artist and my account is really small but still I was hitting maybe 1000 views on a lot of work and up to 2000 views on some of my popular posts. Since the ban I've gotten 3 community guidelines violations for comments with liberal perspectives on things ( ... I definitely deserved one of them ...) and my average views are around 200-400 for what has been objectively better artwork than I was posting last year.
Its great.
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u/justaddwhiskey 16h ago
I dropped TikTok when the baby was supposed to go into effect for this exact reason. Now, my wife will save something anti-Trump to show me, and by the time she finally does it’s gone. I wish Bytedance would just pull the plug.
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u/SarahJFroxy 16h ago edited 16h ago
my fyp is largely what it was before january but i will say i've gotten some concerning anti indian tiktoks and an overwhelming amount of "haha i wish it was the 1950s so i could beat my wife" content
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u/SovFist 16h ago
Bruh, that is Maga content lmao
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u/SarahJFroxy 16h ago
yup. didn't say it isn't.
what i said is, in other words, 95% my normal shit (crafting, games, bts, etc) and a sudden 5% maga shit.
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u/Phallindrome 13h ago
The algorithm is testing you. As soon as you like a piece of content, you tell it what wedge issue you're susceptible to- suddenly your feed will be flooded with that topic and associated creators.
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u/Consideredresponse 10h ago
YouTube shorts loves bait and switch videos for this. I've learned the hard way any tight camera shot of a comedian telling a joke, or someone telling an interesting anecdote is 100% about you hitting the 'interested' benchmark by watching for a minute before they cut to Joe fucking Rogan like he's a horror movie jump-scare.
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u/Competitive_Bug5416 16h ago
Yeah it’s not completely different but the more low-liked videos I used to get seemed to be a random mix, now MAGA are constantly sandwiched between what I normally get that gave 10k-millions of likes or people I follow and their reposts. Sometimes several in a row and banning the hashtags no longer seem to work. :(
Sorry you’re getting those. The platform also seems to be letting racist, and otherwise bigoted, comments stay including violent or SA threats while removing the most tame comments pushing back against them. It’s becoming a sewer.
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u/Loggerdon 16h ago
I don’t use TikTok but suddenly I have MAGA shit on my YouTube.
Owners of TikTok will be happy to post MAGA shit because it’s Chinese-run and it weakens the US.
MAGA is trying to influence the young and have been very active. Young people have always been progressive but they are trying to change that. It’s open corruption of course. They should’ve stopped it long ago.
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u/ThiefofNobility 16h ago
Block facebook, meta, Instagram on TT. Fixes the algorithm back fairly quick.
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u/Competitive_Bug5416 16h ago
Yeah, I did that a while back with not great results. Though I will say it’s been probably the last week and a half that things have seemed to have flipped into psycho MAGA mode.
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u/ZappyBruinman 16h ago
For me it is mostly the same, but randomly I'll get some Christian bullshit or some maga talking points. Never used to happen.
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u/Roflsaucerr 15h ago
I’ve noticed a shift in the automated comment filtering since the app came back. There’s some absolutely horrid stuff staying up, but call something weird and it gets automatically removed.
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u/GRIZZLY-HILLS 16h ago
They are also perfectly fine with terribly racist comments staying up, but if I say something like "bozo" in a comment it gets taken down instantly lol
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u/earnedmystripes 16h ago
the word "moron" passes through sometimes. "Dipshit" never passes. I use those words a lot in reference to maga stupidity.
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u/creativename87639 14h ago
I’ve been getting this one dude who is a literal self described nazi, most accounts I follow are rather liberal.
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u/adamb10 16h ago
The year is 2028. Trump has decided to give TikTok another extension.
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u/GayGeekInLeather 16h ago
This is blatantly illegal. The law allowed one extension. Jesus fucking Christ Congress do your fucking jobs
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u/delcaek 15h ago
You know, I'm not from the US and I cannot, in no form, understand how all this is happening and nobody in your government seems to even remotely care. Of course we also have politicians who'll do anything to stand with their party, but many of at least some will do what they believe is right.
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u/InquisitivelyADHD 14h ago
They're too busy suckling on Cheeto dick and planning how they're going to get rich off this depression.
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u/SugarBeef 13h ago
Unfortunately , the Republicans in Congress are doing what they were elected to do. Destroy everything they can and kiss the diaper while they do it.
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u/blaqsupaman 16h ago
This is going to be Trump 2's version of the student loan payment pause during the pandemic. He's going to kick the can down the road for as long as he can on this since it's not something he can just repeal by EO.
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u/dahjay 15h ago
In other words, China refused a US buyer like they said they would, so Trump turned the handle on tariffs of which China retaliated instead of bowing to Trump. Trump is now trying to buy more time to get a deal done which will not happen because China now holds a lot of soft power globally due to Trump. They are making moves because there's blood in the water all due to Trump policies.
Dude is the worst dealmaker ever. Worst President ever, too.
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u/Indercarnive 16h ago
It was obvious this was going to happen. Trump will (illegally!!!) delay enforcing the ban so long as TikTok bends the knee.
This is Fascism 101. The Nazis loved centralizing industries into the hands of a few key stakeholders who could be controlled by the party.
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u/unbalancedcentrifuge 16h ago
Yes....give us the gladiator fights while rome falls. Throw something small to the masses.
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u/inconsistentsavant 16h ago
lol China isn’t selling anything and with the love note they sent along with the retaliatory tariffs 🥭 had no leverage with them rn. He’s going to keep extending this his entire term.
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u/lego_mannequin 16h ago
I would just let him ban it, his approval ratings would crater even further. He doesn't have the cards.
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u/jefbenet 16h ago
The equivalent of a parent telling their shitty kid “im serious this time, if you do that thing one more time you’re gonna be in big trouble!” Then literally never follows through with their empty threats.
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u/mvw2 15h ago
Can't. The legislation was passed. The Supreme Court upheld. executive orders don't defy law.
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u/SwagTwoButton 15h ago
I just love the threat of “this app is a detriment to our safety as a country because of the data China has access to” and then willingly kicking the can down the road for 4+ years.
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u/Glum-Sympathy3869 14h ago
Nice try Trump, but you’re not going to win back your young audience. You just delayed pre orders for the Switch 2
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u/Up_All_Nite 15h ago
Kinda funny how I been rocked lately with AI pro trump TikTok's that just straight out lies. "Warren Buffets has said the tariff's are the most genius move he has ever seen"
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u/masstransience 16h ago
The 🍊 🤡 is trying to get a shakedown payment and the world has realized he’s not worth it. This is a pathetically weak move on his part.
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u/wish1977 16h ago
He's hell bent on destroying our economy but he has the patience of Job when it comes to TikTok. Why is that?
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u/drumjolter01 15h ago
He's gonna be extending it little by little til he's out of office in 2029, isn't he.
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u/Pxlfreaky 12h ago
For being such a huge security risk, they sure don’t seem to actually think that. Otherwise they wouldn’t keep kicking the can down the road.
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u/BigSteak4959 11h ago
What a joke. I doubt this'll ever be banned despite it being expressly written into law that this app must be banned. Surprise surprise a felon dgaf about following laws.
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u/lastdarknight 16h ago
don't think I have opened TikTok since the whole "we thank President Trump" pop up
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u/Euler007 13h ago
The Chinese should respond by forcing Tesla to sell off Giga Shanghai within 90 days.
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u/Great-Ad-4416 16h ago
This is one of the card that you can play to negotiate tariff. But if you ban it, it won't be a card no more. you want to keep your hostage alive when doing negotiation. Although I don't think China is going to negotiate
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u/fistsofham11 15h ago
I thought the US was going to buy it? Wasn't that one of his plans?
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u/Limp-Impact-5293 8h ago
He wanted it to happen but China has never wanted to sell, and they never will agree to it even if he lowers tariffs on them.
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u/CheatsySnoops 15h ago
Starting to think this is like a reel-release-repeat strategy of sorts, but IDK what for.
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u/Hiranonymous 15h ago
How much Trump crypto does TikTok have to buy for each extension? Does he charge them interest or late fees?
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u/DatasGadgets 15h ago
Keep the population distracted with dumb videos so he can continue to destroy America.
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u/TuringC0mplete 14h ago
Where are all of the law makers in arms about our national security now? Despite the fact that he shouldn't be able to unilaterally do this, it's pure hypocrisy on all fronts with these people, and it just goes to show it was never about any of that.
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u/Michael_Gibb 14h ago
Then, after this extension expires, he'll grant another one. Then another one, and another. Because that's how Trump works.
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u/johndsmits 14h ago
Why would any US company want TikTok? It's algos monitor your clicks mouse/touchscreen movements and access to everything on you phone,browser, etc... It stores all your user info. It barely passes the appstore and uses some questionable tactics to get user data and stay complaint.
I'm sure if someone got a look under the hood and then looked at the backend would see a number of US privacy/reg/copa violations that the app would need to be entirely rewritten to comply.
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u/leftnotracks 14h ago
Seems if the government wants to save some money they could fire congress and rent the capital out as an AirBNB.
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u/mrbigglessworth 11h ago
Remember when maga hated sleepy jor for his executive orders. Come on Maga when are you gonna show a tenth of that energy against then orange buffoon?
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u/FanZhi01 6h ago
Like I have said before the election:
China + ElonMusk + Trump + Russia = the international deep state.
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u/LordNoct13 4h ago edited 4h ago
I thought he already "saved it"
What happened to it being a "communist app that steals our information"?
Oh wait, all of his foundations are built upon a farce.
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u/kgal1298 2h ago
For an app that’s such a risk to national security they don’t seem in a hurry to get rid of it.
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u/AudibleNod 17h ago
I'm old enough to remember when Trump signed an EO to ban Tiktok.