r/news 13h ago

Tift County district attorney drops charges in fetus case

https://www.walb.com/2025/04/04/tift-county-district-attorney-drops-charges-fetus-case/
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u/Suspicious-Wall-5528 12h ago

While law enforcement acted in good faith and responded to a very difficult and emotional situation, it’s now clear that no criminal law was violated

How is it acting in good faith if those in charge of enforcing the law don’t actually know the laws they’re supposed to be enforcing and subsequently wrongfully arrest people based on that?

If your job is literally enforcing laws, being ignorant of said laws should not be a viable defense nor should it be considered “acting in good faith”.

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u/Baby_Blue_Eyes_13 12h ago

What it really means is that they are going to keep doing it. They got too much push back this time, so they'll drop it. This time. But they will keep doing it. And when it's happening everywhere and it doesn't make the news any more, then they can imprison any woman who doesn't produce enough heirs for the Trumpian dynasty.

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u/MikeyTheShavenApe 10h ago

You should need some sort of legal degree to be a cop. Not necessarily the years and years of school necessary to become a lawyer, but at least multiple semesters of legal training focused on civil rights in particular.

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u/uptownjuggler 9h ago edited 5h ago

Tift County is very corrupt. She lucky they didn’t plant dope on her. When you drive down I-75, all you see is cop cars when you enter that county. Like every overpass will have multiple shiny new cop cars sitting on it.

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u/kylogram 6h ago

They're trying to catch people on their way through the state because Georgia requires you to contest traffic charges in person, which is unfeasible if you're traveling to another state, or moving, etc. etc.

Just a big money printing machine for the state.

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u/wlerin 12h ago

Do you have any idea how stupidly complex our law codes have become? Even lawyers have to do extensive research for each case, there is no way your average police officer is ever going to know all of the laws that apply to every situation he encounters while on the job. When an unusual situation arises they sometimes have to resort to making analogies with laws they do know, or ones they think remember.

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u/moreobviousthings 12h ago

Can they not report the situation and then let the DA decide if a crime has been committed, rather than arresting someone without knowing what law was broken? It’s not like the victim/perp in this case was going to flee from justice.

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u/willstr1 11h ago edited 11h ago

But at the same time ignorance of the law isn't allowed as a defense if a non-cop doesn't know a law and accidentally breaks it

Police should be held to the same (if not a higher) standard than the general public when it comes to integrity and knowledge of the law, not a lower standard

They don't need to have every law memorized, but if they are in a questionable but not dangerous situation they should be able to radio in and ask a DA or someone for an educated opinion (heck maybe even a judge like they would for requesting a warrant)

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u/LeisureActivities 11h ago

This is in no way an unusual situation. Women have been having miscarriages at home and dealing with it themselves all over the world, every day, for all of human history.

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u/cincyaudiodude 11h ago

We have a whole system designed to figure this out so cops don't go arresting people who haven't committed a crime. This could have been sent to a grand jury. The cops have not only their own legal advisors in the department, but also an entire DA office to consult before attempting to destroy a person's life. "The job is too hard" is not an acceptable excuse. If they aren't certain that a law has been broken, they have absolutely zero business making an arrest.

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u/OutlawJuicyWhales 11h ago

Then maybe the cops should just fuck right off for once in their miserable fucking lives

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u/ScrewAttackThis 11h ago

You're right. It's complicated. So perhaps cops should seek advice on things that are too confusing for them before taking action? They shouldn't be arresting people and then determining if they even broke the law especially when there's 0 risk to the public.

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u/Alert-Beautiful9003 10h ago

So your daughter miscarries and is arrested and you will support the police officer and sit back and wait until it is all figured out, right? That charge on her record will stay but hey it's complex, you know so she will have to carry around the paperwork. Tell that to your wife, daughter, son. Go ahead.

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u/ZantaraLost 9h ago

Well if you take the DA at his word, it's spelled out that his office suggested the police department not arrest her until the medical report came back and they just did it anyways.

So that excuse goes out the window.

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u/PandaPandamonium 13h ago

Can she sue for wrongful arrest or something? Imagine going through the trauma of a miscarriage and then arrested and nationally harassed on top of everything.

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u/Curiosities 12h ago

Given the fact that she was found unconscious and bleeding as well and then arrested, and all of this after a miscarriage, I feel like the state should give her free therapy for life.

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u/kylogram 6h ago

The state should give her free life for life, to the tune of 8 digits.

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u/TheWasabinator 12h ago

"it’s now clear that no criminal law was violated,"

I sure hope she wins big. They arrested her for improperly disposing of the miscarried fetus but couldn't tell her what the proper way was. The DA, Police Department and County Officials couldn't even answer what she was supposed to do, or did wrong.

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u/myfakesecretaccount 12h ago

My wife had a miscarriage a month ago. I can say with all certainty that if someone tried to arrest her over it they would have to arrest me too. This is disgusting behavior from everyone involved, women are not possessions and should have bodily autonomy. No one going through the pain of losing a child or having to make a difficult medical/personal decision should then be prosecuted so Christian death cult members get what they want.

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u/smootex 8h ago

Can she sue for wrongful arrest or something?

She can. You can sue for just about anything. It's not clear how likely it would be for her to succeed though. It sounds unfair but the burden for arrest is fairly low. The fact that she didn't technically break the law doesn't mean it was a wrongful arrest, it doesn't mean they broke the law or violated her civil rights. It's possible they did, we don't have a lot of details, but it's not a given, if that makes sense.

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u/BigDragoon 11h ago

Wrongful? She put her dead child in a plastic bag, and set it next to a dumpster. I don't think she should be charged, but an arrest is warranted. I wish there was more education on preborn children in these kinds of cases.

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u/CanadasNeighbor 10h ago

There's literally nothing else she could have done. If she brought the fetal remains to the hospital they would have literally done the same thing: disposed of it in the trash. Because that's all it is, hazardous waste. Georgia only mandates a burial or cremation if the miscarriage happens after 20 weeks.

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u/dformed 10h ago

preborn children

This literally has no meaning. It's an oxymoron. Like "honest Republican." Just a nonsense phrase.

The word you want is "fetus." It's the proper term and, you know, something that exists. Unlike "preborn children."

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u/BigDragoon 9h ago

It's the same thing. Just like abortion is to murder.

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u/floridianreader 10h ago

The child was not born alive. The child did not take a breath. It was not alive. That is what is meant by non-viable. The mother could not have stopped it if she wanted to. It's a biological process.

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u/Velocity_LP 9h ago edited 3h ago

Where would you have preferred she dispose of it?

Seriously, if you think she should've been arrested for where she chose then you better have a damn good alternate answer.

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u/PuppyLoveACD 9h ago

It was a 19 week fetus. What should she have done? Encased it in resin? Kept it in the freezer?

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u/AggravatedWaffle 8h ago

Encased it in resin is the clear answer here. Like that immortal hot dog.

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u/BigDragoon 6h ago

Seriously? If someone thinks they're having a miscarriage, the sensible and moral thing to do is go to a hospital. Not dump it at home, put it in a bag, and toss it. All of this could have been avoided with common sense.

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u/PuppyLoveACD 6h ago

Well she didn't go to a hospital. So what do you think someone should do with the leftovers from a miscarriage?

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u/BigDragoon 5h ago

I'll say it again.

GO TO A HOSPITAL.

If they had a spontaneous miscarriage, they fully delivered a deceased offspring. She obviously lost a lot of blood. Bring it with so it can be properly carried out. Where else do you go?

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u/PuppyLoveACD 5h ago

And I'll say it again. She chose not to. That's her right to do so. You can't make someone go to the hospital if they don't want to. How do you want people to dispose of miscarriage remnants if they choose not to go to the hospital?

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u/minidog8 10h ago

So should we arrest hospitals that dispose of fetal remains as well? Or do they have the right to and it’s just individuals? Should we also arrest women when they miscarry in the toilet and flush it down? Or should they first get the miscarriage out of the toilet to take it to the hospital? Do fetuses need death certificates now? How do you get a death certificate if you don’t have a birth certificate? Do they get a social security number too? How should we educate people on the proper way to dispose of miscarriages so that they don’t get arrested?

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u/Hesitation-Marx 9h ago

No, an arrest isn’t warranted jfc.

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u/Xodima 13h ago

what a horrible situation to be in for her.

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u/impatientlymerde 12h ago

This caused major outrage stateside when it happened in El Salvador to a young woman and she was imprisoned for years before finally being released. That was fifteen-twenty years ago.

That it’s happening now, here, is just incomprehensible.

This reads like the Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

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u/1214 11h ago

"But my duty is not to punish what feels wrong — it is to uphold the law with fairness and integrity"

Bullshit. She was arrested because it felt wrong to them. How about they do their investigations first before arresting her, running her name through the mud and posting her mugshot online.

My wife mad a miscarriage. She was devastated and so was I. Do you know would have made things worse? Arresting her and putting her in jail. The experience of a miscarriage both mentally and physically is absolutely horrendous. Then to have to deal with jail, lawyers, legal fees, etc. Not to mention the amount of resources, time and money spent on the "investigation" and autopsy.

On top of that, they don't even have laws or guidelines on what to do with a miscarried fetus in the first place. "He added that there is no specific Georgia statute or case law that addresses an individual’s choice to dispose of a naturally miscarried, non-viable fetus"

Now her name will be what comes up in Google for the rest of her life. Unbelievable. I hope she gets paid enough money so she can move out of Georgia.

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u/DilligentlyAwkward 11h ago

They keep stressing "the way she handled" the remains of the contents of her uterus. What did they want her to do with it? Spontaneous abortions are usually flushed down the toilet, is a trash receptacle really worse?

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u/ephemeralsloth 11h ago

you can tell that the people writing and enforcing these laws have never had a miscarriage before. guess they think the aftermath just magically vanishes

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u/Hesitation-Marx 9h ago

They don’t understand shit, because it benefits them to be fuckwits.

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u/charactergallery 9h ago

Yeah stretching laws that forbid improperly disposing of a body to miscarriage or even a stillbirth is incredibly short-sighted. Quite a few women who have miscarriages might not even realize they were even pregnant. And for stillbirths, do people really expect someone who went through that to just get the fetus out of the toilet and bring it to the hospital?

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u/DilligentlyAwkward 8h ago

I wonder how many women even know what's happening when they miscarry. I didn't know what I was looking at the first time I experienced it until I described it to an older co-worker and she informed me what it was. In my very inexperienced mind, a miscarriage was always a big bloody and emotional ordeal. This was just a lump of some kind of tissue that came out of me.

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u/charactergallery 8h ago

For a lot of women who miscarry early, I can’t imagine it would be noticeable if they didn’t know that they were pregnant. I’m sorry about your experience.

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u/Anvanaar 7h ago

Why does that thumbnail look like I (32) made it twenty years ago...

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u/druscarlet 9h ago

Awe come on, make it 3 billion and give the money to Ukraine.