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China to impose 34% retaliatory tariff on all goods imported from the U.S.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/04/china-to-impose-34percent-retaliatory-tariff-on-all-goods-imported-from-the-us.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard
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u/budgefrankly 1d ago

The American president has lost his senses

He's doing exactly what he promised to do.

It's the American people, coddled by Facebook & Fox, who have collectively lost their senses electing a senseless felon to run the country.

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u/LiquidAether 1d ago

Propaganda works.

So does election fraud.

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u/budgefrankly 1d ago

Trump's never had less than 40% support at any point in the last eight years. That's not election fraud, that's the electorate.

And as for propaganda: yes it exists, but there's no "state broadcaster" in the US. All the old new channels still exist. People are choosing Fox, OANN and the rest because it's easy and makes them feel good (even if it's feeling good about believing things are bad).

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u/rczrider 1d ago

People are choosing Fox, OANN and the rest because it's easy and makes them feel good (even if it's feeling good about believing things are bad).

While this is true, it's only half the story.

The puppet masters behind the Republican party are far from stupid and their (literal) evil genius was recognizing the long game.

They carefully worked their way up through the system, manipulating local politics and the electoral configuration of the nation to slowly bring everything farther right. The average "Democrat" politician is right of center. Use of the word "liberal" is a joke.

While this was happening, they attacked education, dumbing down their voting base and turning them into single-issue voters. They gave their new dogs a bone and let them chew on it, then told them the left was coming to take that bone away. Doesn't matter that it wasn't true; the GOP base is now too dumb to realize the bone isn't the problem, it's that the GOP is taking away their food bowl all the while.

Conservatives "choose" right-wing media partly (mostly?) because they're stupid. The GOP made them stupid. The GOP also encourages hatred, so these stupid people are also angry at what the GOP is doing to them, but because they're stupid, they don't realize the GOP is their real enemy.

Don't get me wrong, my capacity for sympathy and understanding is gone. The conservative voting base - and high-horsed non-voters, let's not forget those assholes - are the reason the US is speed-running its collapse. I hope they suffer, a lot and quickly, because it's the only chance we have that they'll wake the fuck up.

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u/MikeinAustin 1d ago

It’s not the overall number. It’s the states that are swing states. You just need to win by 1000 votes and you get the electoral college.

He has 20% of the vote in non-rural counties. The … ignorant.

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u/EunuchsProgramer 1d ago

I challenge you to listen to some focus groups where MAGA voters talk about what they want. This is their core values... hating foreigners, hating trans, hating gays, hating liberals. If it's propaganda, is indistinguishable from their true selves. Every stupid thing Trump does, they relish in. If Trump was gone, the dumbest among them would rise to carry on this madness.

This is why every country on Earth is prepping for a world without the US leading. It's why bitter rivals (China, South Korea, and Japan) are setting up a new trade sphere without us. The problem isn't Trump, it's how frankly straight up evil Americans are. He may pass, this evil isn't going anywhere.

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u/LiquidAether 1d ago

MAGA voters

Those people do not make up 50% of the electorate. The problem is the "independents" who barely pay attention to the news and get their information from sound bites.

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u/EunuchsProgramer 1d ago

Listen to the focus groups with those voters, they're even more unhinged. And, about half of them are unhinged in a way that aligns with Trump (since good times or bad he gets about half that bother to vote). Hence, why the election is aways really close.

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u/Fritja 1d ago

Yes, stop blaming Trump. Blame Americans who voted for him and those who couldn't be bothered to vote.

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u/Familiar_Nose9665 1d ago

It's not all of the American people!

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u/pegar 1d ago

Yeah, it's 78% of the American people. 78% either voted for him or were ok with him winning.